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Nebulai
ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.10.07 09:54:00 -
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Hi all,
I have some news regarding the ongoing Tetrimon
Unfortunately it seems certain corporations have managed to obtain inside information pertaining to our plans for the Arc. This has effectivly ended 11 months of planning by our senior producers for the Tetrimon and also CoC event arcs (and an associate as of yet 'unknown' arc that was due to start).
This is an extremely disappointing development not only for Aurora, but also for those of you taking part in these events and who didn't receive this information.
The information released was never intended to be aired in a public light and as such should not of been at all - certainly not to base assumptions off. I'm also slightly disappointed that this corporation in question choose to act on the data as opposed to realising what was happening was wrong.
We have now effectivly killed of these Arc's - being given no choice in the matter. We may or may not revisit them, however it will require significant re-planning to do so. The producers in question are debating how to proceed.
I'm sorry this has happened, and on behalf of the rest of Aurora I apologise to those this affects. I will find the person responsible and take the appropiate actions.
-- Nebulai Vice-Admiral Aurora, ISD [email protected]
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.07 10:04:00 -
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Ruining AURORA's plans is bad, and should obviously result in instant ejection from the program.
However, this is going to effect a whole lot of innocent players very negatively. I think something like this should result in actual permabans from EVE for the players responsible. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Graelyn
Amarr The Aeternus Crusade Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.07 10:49:00 -
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3 Years...
Well, onto the next Adventure!
Minister of Foreign Affairs - Aegis Militia "The power of foresight is no blessing." |

Darius Shakor
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.10.07 11:34:00 -
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Well that sucks and I hope the people who are responsible for this realise what they have done. Well done, you have killed one of the longest Aurora story arcs in EVE. ------
Shakor Clan Information Portal http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=3 |

Count Trayela
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Posted - 2006.10.07 11:53:00 -
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So the rumours going around about Lotka Volterra / M Corp cheating their way to a mothership are true? If that's indeed the case and considering they must have known what they did was wrong there better be some bannings 
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Dogal
ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.10.07 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Count Trayela So the rumours going around about Lotka Volterra / M Corp cheating their way to a mothership are true? If that's indeed the case and considering they must have known what they did was wrong there better be some bannings 
The Tetrimon storyline has nothing to do with either of these corporations or that mothership mothership. -------------- Dogal Aurora Captain The Aurora Project [email protected] |
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Count Trayela
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Posted - 2006.10.07 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Dogal
Originally by: Count Trayela So the rumours going around about Lotka Volterra / M Corp cheating their way to a mothership are true? If that's indeed the case and considering they must have known what they did was wrong there better be some bannings 
The Tetrimon storyline has nothing to do with either of these corporations or that mothership mothership.
Ah, thanks. Jita's been buzzing with stories about that corporation having advance info about and being prepared for the mothership event so I mistakenly assumed this was about that issue 
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Kyguard
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.07 13:23:00 -
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Before I make any comments.. what is an Arc? I'm not entirely on the ball on what is going on here. Someone explain?  ===
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.07 14:17:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 07/10/2006 14:25:07 That really sucks. 
Just as things were starting to look up, this happens.
I assume that the leaker has been appropriately punished?
I just hope that something can be salvaged from this, even if it's just a series of news articles.
It would be a shame for this all to just die after so much time and effort from both the Aurora chaps and the people who've been taking part in the events.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |

Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.07 14:30:00 -
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Dont stop the event.
Its easily the best you have going here, and some moron leaking information to some other moron who was too stupid not to realise that the information could not be acted upon as it was purely OOC should not be enough to stop it.
You are doing well, your event seems to be keeping people's interest just about perfectly, and if some people have gotten information they should never have gotten, well they wont be able to act on it IC without getting told 'You are insane'.
Take the time to find the leak, silence it, and then get back to the story you have going here, because damnit its a good one so far.
Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public' |
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Dogal
ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.10.07 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Kyguard Before I make any comments.. what is an Arc? I'm not entirely on the ball on what is going on here. Someone explain? 
An arc is like a season in a tv-show or the whole TV show. So an Arc is our case a series of events, news ideas, stories and plots that unfold in parts of EVE.
In this case it is more like someone leaking the script for say the new Star Trek series or the next 3-4 seasons when 2 have been aired and the show is due to that reason closed.
I hope that it is better explained now for the one that wasn't sure.
-------------- Dogal Aurora Captain The Aurora Project [email protected] |
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Amarr Citizen 13513
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Posted - 2006.10.07 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dogal
Originally by: Kyguard Before I make any comments.. what is an Arc? I'm not entirely on the ball on what is going on here. Someone explain? 
An arc is like a season in a tv-show or the whole TV show. So an Arc is our case a series of events, news ideas, stories and plots that unfold in parts of EVE.
In this case it is more like someone leaking the script for say the new Star Trek series or the next 3-4 seasons when 2 have been aired and the show is due to that reason closed.
I hope that it is better explained now for the one that wasn't sure.
No reason to trash the whole arc, just slap anyone who tries to use information gained out of character in character, and ban anyone from the corps and alliances the info was leaked to from participation.
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Archbishop
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.07 14:48:00 -
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I'm very disappointed. While PIE hasnt been a Tetrimon supporter I've played the card of "religious man" and talked to Grand Master Horm about the Scriptures. As a "Man of God" my character was looking forward to new words of wisdom and faith to use in my RP.
I do think that now the Tetrimon is part of the Prime Fiction fabric of the Empire. It cant just be "removed" cold turkey. Some kind of ending has to be enacted to bring RP finality to the arc. Dont just cut it off.
Bad Suggestion: The Scriptures are false and Tetrimon goes back to deep space never to be seen again.
Better Suggestion: Rewrite the ending so the arc plan that was revealed is no more and a new arc that is secret is enacted.
Dont let the actions of one person ruin a good arc that is close to the hearts of many. Its a good story and I dont want this to be the last chapter.
Archie 
PIE WEBSITE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER |

Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.07 14:59:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok''ri on 07/10/2006 15:02:42
Quote: No reason to trash the whole arc, just slap anyone who tries to use information gained out of character in character, and ban anyone from the corps and alliances the info was leaked to from participation.
Problem with the second part of that is that the first thing done with that information by the recipient may have been to tell it to as many people as possible. Therefor if say 10 people were told about it, 5 of them saw it was something they shouldnt know and didnt tell anyone, 3 were iffy about it and told it to a small circle of others, and they stopped it there, and 2 did the same thing the original person did... repeat the process ad naseum till everyone in the arc has at least heard a rumor of it.
Thats a problem, for sure. But I dont think that they should cancel because of it.
For one, you CANT cancel a plot arc like this in EVE the way you could a TV show. A TV show cancelled, well its sad people dont know the end, but its not the end of the world.
A plot arc in a game cancelled is a tad more devastating. Whether or not you continue the arc, it needs to have a conclusion of some sort so that the characters ICly can go on with their lives. IT needs to get to a point where the involved parties can either move on or are acting in their own rights without the need for more aurora intervention.
I understand that its a blow, and I understand that you will need time to reconsider what you are doing. But take a pause, clean the house of the person who leaked, and then make what changes you need to make to keep the plot arc going.
That alone will reduce the leaked information to nothing, as the second you have paused to consider changing it, even if you change very little, the information will be out of date and no one will be able to act OOC reliably on it. And IC, well even if you didnt change anything it would be invalid IC and anyone useing it IC would be in a rather nasty little spot PR wise.
Which is really the key point. Because this is a player involved plot arc and not a story with no player involvement, knowing the plot doesnt actually matter as much for those who would have gotten access to the information. They have gotten a prophesy of the future, one from a decent source perhaps, but only a prophesy of the future which cant really be acted on with any success. And the most important thing for those who have had access to the information is NOT how it ends, but how thier corporations and characters will respond to the way in which it unfolds.
Aurora has done well this last year, stay the course and even this will be forgotten compared to the actual result of the best event Aurora has run.
Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public' |

Hakera
Anari Higard
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Posted - 2006.10.07 15:12:00 -
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I have to concur with the stinking Amarrian above me :)
this isnt really cause to cancel an arc. Change some of the details, but in esscence much like a pen & paper rpg, you mostly have only 'cue cards' when it comes to plot anyway, with the details finalised and adapted along the way according to player interaction results and direction.
Everyone knows things are going to get more tense in the lead up to FW, with something causing the trigger, whether its your extremist child-killing cult, the intaki or thukker for nationas to descend into a cold war and then open war.
But as to the tetrimon, its certaintly no need to cancel it, suspend and do some changes but unless its one of those where you unsually had the finest of details covered and player choice and direction was never really a part of it, then yes it may well have been spoiled, but to me, your triggering player decisions and actions and aiding them rather than telling a story whilst representing npc factions which does not require the finiest of details and so can be easily changed.
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Wrangler

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Posted - 2006.10.07 15:14:00 -
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Right now we're mainly investigating what exactly happened and discussing how to proceed, so we won't be releasing too much information on exactly what happened.
Obviously, this means things will have to be put on hold, or maybe even cancelled. But since we know this is important to many of you, and of course to us as well, we will do our best to save as much as possible and hopefully changes can be made so the events can go ahead, even if changed so the leaked information won't allow anyone to cheat.
Wrangler Assistant Community Manager EVE Online
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.07 15:24:00 -
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Quote: But since we know this is important to many of you, and of course to us as well, we will do our best to save as much as possible and hopefully changes can be made so the events can go ahead, even if changed so the leaked information won't allow anyone to cheat.
Thank you, that is the best that we can ask.
Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public' |
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Dogal
ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.10.07 15:27:00 -
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To ease your pain a bit.
There will be an ending to Tetrimon, just something totally different then what was originally planned (with huge plots, backstabbing, ceremonies, important missions ran by loyalists and all other things you expect from Amarrians when they have a big political war and fight for support that would take months to reach a conclusion).
The storyline will get another ending now.
Then we'll see how much info about this investigation we can release to straighten out some more questionmarks.
-------------- Dogal Aurora Captain The Aurora Project [email protected] |
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.07 15:36:00 -
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Thanks Dogal and Wrangler 
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |

Lallara Zhuul
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.07 16:31:00 -
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Thank you.
'Death is the only Release from duty..' |

Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.10.07 17:40:00 -
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Good luck on the new ending. It's a good to hear something was salvagable.
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.07 17:57:00 -
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I had another idea.
Now that you KNOW you're scrapping it, maybe you should publish the old version of the plot, just so that the people who leaked it won't have anything special anyway. And because I'm curious and I suspect a lot of other people are, too. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Gaven Lok'ri
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.07 18:08:00 -
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How about no, Nik :P
Better that the plan leaked be forgotten entirely.
Deus Vult! PIE Website Public Channel: 'PIE Public' |

Arderich
Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen
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Posted - 2006.10.07 19:05:00 -
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All this spies and metagaming really destroys so much.
Sneaking into Aurora to get some insider information is really lame.
Glad to hear you will finish the arc even it's not the way you once planned. I hope you can find a new end that still is satisfying your original intentions. Unfinished arcs are the worse decision.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.07 19:06:00 -
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I'd just like to say that whatever the new ending is, it shouldn't simply be the exact opposite of what was originally planned, because if it were then the people with leaked knowledge would probably be able to work things out.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori |
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Dogal
ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.10.07 23:51:00 -
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Originally by: Arderich Glad to hear you will finish the arc even it's not the way you once planned. I hope you can find a new end that still is satisfying your original intentions. Unfinished arcs are the worse decision.
Sadly I have to say that no other ending will be as satisfying then the one arc we had planned (it would have been huge and ground breaking, too bad you won't see it ingame). The air has went out totally from the team handling the Tetrimon and Cult of Catechization since hundreds of planning hours now have to be scrapped.
There will be an ending though. Just way different.
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Mebrithiel Ju'wien
Minmatar Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.10.08 03:52:00 -
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As I said elsewhere, I hope you guys can bring it back somehow... maybe do what you wanted but at a later date. Give me a buzz if plotlining help is needed; I make Machiavelli look tame.
Othewise, good luck Aurora. I don't know what happened and, despite my curious cat part, I shouldn't know either. I just hope you guys don't get bummed out by it:
Some cook is always going to spoil the broth.
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Tharrn
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.10.08 14:56:00 -
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Just spread enough different rumors professionaly so that people won't know which one is the correct version and are still surprised in the end :P Would be a shame to waste so many manhours of work because of some ****head.
Now recruiting!
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Tharrn
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.10.08 14:57:00 -
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Oh, and ban the **** if you know who it is. Forever.
Now recruiting!
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Khan Rodak
Amarr Manu Dei
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Posted - 2006.10.08 17:18:00 -
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Glad you'll be finishing it. The worst thing would be to leave any pilots who care about RP hooked on a non closed story.
Now, what about bans? I'm tired of seeing people getting abuse and cheating. When for bad habilitie or understanding of RP we can take it but, as for intentional missbehavior, well, ban is needed.
Khan Rodak Manu Dei Religious Order Congregatio Executorium Officiarius
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GoGo Yubari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 11:22:00 -
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My views on this can be read following this link. I'm not going to re-post on here - you'll see why.
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kieron

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Posted - 2006.10.09 20:50:00 -
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With the help of the Aurora team leads and senior GM staff, we have investigated the leak, how it came about and how extensive the loss of time and effort and have a rough idea of how long it will take to recover. We have taken action against the primaries in this incident and will continue to monitor the situation.
I want to impress upon the community the severity of this incident. There were breaches of Non-Disclosure Agreements, the End User License Agreement and the Terms of Service. Lost man-hours number in the thousands and repair of the damage done will take even more time.
Due to CCP's non-disclosure and privacy policies, we will not reveal the names of those involved, nor the actions taken against them, so please do not ask.
It is unfortunate that actions need to be taken against players who feel the need to bend or outright break rules, contracts and/or agreements. On behalf of the Volunteer, GM and Dev teams, I apologize for the inconvenince and impact this will have on the Tetrimon event arc and those participating in it.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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Nikolai Nuvolari
Caldari Gilead's Bullet Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.09 21:48:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Due to CCP's non-disclosure and privacy policies, we will not reveal the names of those involved, nor the actions taken against them, so please do not ask.
They've already breached all of your contracts, why do you even care about their privacy at this point? Throw their personal information out for the world, see how they like it. --------------------- Originally by: Herko Kerghans Nik = win. Period.
Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
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Tar Kovsky
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.10.09 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari They've already breached all of your contracts, why do you even care about their privacy at this point? Throw their personal information out for the world, see how they like it.
Legal ramifications, perhaps?
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Dogal
ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.10.09 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Due to CCP's non-disclosure and privacy policies, we will not reveal the names of those involved, nor the actions taken against them, so please do not ask.
Please respect this everyone.
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Xaroth Brook
Minmatar Doomcraft R i s e
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Posted - 2006.10.09 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
Originally by: kieron Due to CCP's non-disclosure and privacy policies, we will not reveal the names of those involved, nor the actions taken against them, so please do not ask.
They've already breached all of your contracts, why do you even care about their privacy at this point? Throw their personal information out for the world, see how they like it.
maaaaybe because if they -do- break it they break their own Non-Disclosure Agreement.. and can be sued for doing so... not really the smartest thing to do tbh. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Xaroth Brook Brainiac of Doomcraft Member of R I S E
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Miki Sawaguchi
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Posted - 2006.10.09 23:30:00 -
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Dogal, Neb...
I hope this unforgivable 'leak' is put in the past and the team recovers & moves in an even better direction. I'm sure you have a great staff of volunteers that'll make up for this leak 100 fold. Get writing people! =)
Thank you for all your teams hard work thus far. I'm sure we'll see plenty of great things to come.
PS... Any of you writers out there want to help them out please apply.. I've seen some very creative stories on the forums I'm sure your imagination would be put to use.
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Tharrn
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.10.09 23:56:00 -
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Thanks for the update and keep up the great work, Aurora!
Now recruiting!
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Kular
Amarr Ubiqua Seraph Aegis Militia
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Posted - 2006.10.10 03:14:00 -
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This is really terrible news, the Tetrimon arc has been very consuming for many of us for quite a long time, even if it mainly is a background thing its still vital to the overall story of the Empire imo. I'm glad it will be fixed, and waitings no problem, much more so status quo, and w/e ending happens it will still be great simply to have an end!
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Revan Neferis
Amarr Dark Seraph Verisum Family
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Posted - 2006.10.10 05:37:00 -
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Good to know that the case has been solved, if we can call it like that. Eyes to the future, I hope the team recovers and I'm sure Aurora will do their best to provide us with an end nothing less than amazing.
Revan Neferis Verisum
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CometQueen
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Posted - 2006.10.12 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: CometQueen on 12/10/2006 02:31:12
Originally by: kieron There were breaches of Non-Disclosure Agreements,
that is sad, you can't even trust the people who you should trust.
Terrible waste of effort, glad to see you will finish it. may those who can not play in the sandbox be banished forever.
I applaud the RPers involved for all their effort so far, they have really jumped into this arc with both feet and really added interactivity to an already interesting plot line. Much Respect.
EVEGuardian,EVE's best independent news agency. |

Kyguard
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.12 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Kyguard on 12/10/2006 14:16:22 I can't think of any punishment short of a baseball bat to their/his/her kneecaps.  ===
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Golan Trevize
Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 19:04:00 -
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What a complete clusterF... Aurora i feel for you , even though you dragged me into all this without my knowledge, it was a great pleasure to post as the bald admiral again .......... actually does this mean i now can kill Horm .
Golan
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships.
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Lord Artemis
Filthy Wyrm
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Posted - 2006.10.13 19:45:00 -
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Wow, I thought I was up to speed for mostly everything Tetrimon as well and I didn't hear about a leak or even rumors. For me Tetrimon has always been about rumor and speculation so a leak for me would be consistent and fluid RP  .
I certainly hope those involved are gone for good, it is a shame since there was (as with other fellow RP'ers) alot of history in this. This was my very first RP ever and the first grand master was my first green text I ever saw.
Even though it won't be the original ending, I hope we can get as many players involved and write our own new finale~ together as a community. \O/ _____________________________ ... this space for rent ... |

Maldon Perriera
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Posted - 2006.10.15 14:34:00 -
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one wonders if the attack on tetrimon bases recently without any resistance at all was somehow related to the leak. Oh and Golan I love your sig and can't wait until I am good enough to defend the gallenten ideals with lasers and battleships ;)
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Unuthiel
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.10.16 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Maldon Perriera one wonders if the attack on tetrimon bases recently without any resistance at all was somehow related to the leak. Oh and Golan I love your sig and can't wait until I am good enough to defend the gallenten ideals with lasers and battleships ;)
I think those NPC attacks on the bases were CCP's way of writing the Tertrimon out of the story, so to speak.
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Dogal
ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.10.16 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Unuthiel
Originally by: Maldon Perriera one wonders if the attack on tetrimon bases recently without any resistance at all was somehow related to the leak. Oh and Golan I love your sig and can't wait until I am good enough to defend the gallenten ideals with lasers and battleships ;)
I think those NPC attacks on the bases were CCP's way of writing the Tertrimon out of the story, so to speak.
CCP had nothing to do with that (except providing us with an awsome game to event in). The assault was all AURORA run, so is the rest of the arc. 
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Major Stormer
Caldari Demon Womb
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Posted - 2006.10.22 16:34:00 -
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Edited by: Major Stormer on 22/10/2006 16:35:04 A real shame guys, a lot of the playerbase will be upset, but I feel for you the most, having lost so much time on a project of this scale.
Good luck with whatever else you have planned. -------------------------- Ahh.......Freedom....I love Fountian........ |

Valerie Ganor
Minmatar Defile.
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Posted - 2006.10.22 17:12:00 -
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Better screening next time ?
It sucks that you lost so much time on a event arc but tbh its a bit of aurora's own fault aswell. Volunteers are never ever really part of CCP staff and will therefore be less inclined to keep secrets. It's your job to filter out the best and the trustworthy or you could simply make these jobs payed and get people who never heard of eve before :) +=+=+=+=+=+=+ Win the crowd... |
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Dogal
ISD AURORA Interstellar Services Department

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Posted - 2006.10.24 14:42:00 -
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New details about this can be read about in Gnauton's new blog: http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=391.
There you have what really happened.
We'll soon be able to de-sticky this one as it is in the past.
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subvert
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Posted - 2007.02.04 17:41:00 -
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Wake up. Most events are leaked. This has been happening since the beginning of EVE. I have friends who are old members of the volunteer staffs and the leaks happen all the time.
Did you really think all of your event winners were random? No way. It's all rigged and setup. A small leak is a big prize in items and other reward. Events are a joke, the normal player doesn't win events, people who are or know staff do. Half your volunteers and even volunteer forum moderators abuse their powers for personal or friend benefit in gain, it's common practice. In the end it's all swept under the rug anyways.
For example:
This is how moderator volunteers make their corps immune to spies:
1. check forum accounts for warnings 2. compare warnings 3. if they are the exact same then it's the same account and it's a spy 4. rid your corp of that spy, you are now spy free through abuse of power
or.. look at the account names, are they similar? if so then its a spy.
The advantage is actually very big. One alliance being immune to spies while one is infested, all it takes is staff being in one alliance. They can purge the spies out of it.
That's only one example of how power is constantly abused.
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Kharakan
Amarr Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.02.04 17:58:00 -
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Was your little bit of mindless conspiracy theorism really worth A: This necro and B: Anyone's time? =/
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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subvert
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Posted - 2007.02.04 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: subvert on 04/02/2007 18:44:02
Originally by: Kharakan Was your little bit of mindless conspiracy theorism really worth A: This necro and B: Anyone's time? =/
They aren't theories and given the timing and scandals being uncovered I though I'd give my 2 words. If you feel you're wasting your time then you are free to do something else. I only first read this thread today as it along with other more or less recent threads have become a hot topic on various other forums.
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Cabadrin
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.02.04 19:27:00 -
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/me sprinkles a little holy water to send this zombie back to the grave _______________________________________________
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Kharakan
Amarr Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.02.04 23:33:00 -
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Originally by: subvert Edited by: subvert on 04/02/2007 18:44:02
Originally by: Kharakan Was your little bit of mindless conspiracy theorism really worth A: This necro and B: Anyone's time? =/
They aren't theories...
They are until you produce solid proof.
Oh, and those 'scandals'? If you're on about the 'omgdevhax' thing again, that hasn't been proved either.
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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Ellana Githrael
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Posted - 2007.02.09 01:16:00 -
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It sucks that his arc has been well, trashed/modified/whatever is going to happen to it. My problem is I have no idea what "it" i.e. the Tetrimon arc is!
What had happened in this arc is a complete mystery to me. That I have been playing for a year TODAY, saddens me to know that I have had my head in the stars and had not looked to see that they were winking at me... (aka something was going on and I was oblivious to it!)
Sad that the info got released, and the person/people should get the just punishment. Nuff said bout that.
Well I gotta go see what this Tetrimon is...
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.02.09 02:10:00 -
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Necromancy is illegal in these parts mam 
Half Assed Rhymage
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Tek'a Rain
Gallente Isis Technologies
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Posted - 2007.02.11 08:58:00 -
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sometimes you must force the dead to speak, if you are to hear the truth.
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Omber Zombie
Gallente Frontier Technologies
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Posted - 2007.02.11 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tek'a Rain sometimes you must force the dead to speak, if you are to hear the truth.
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Ikarus Gaul
Gallente Eiffel Initiatives
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Posted - 2007.02.12 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Ellana Githrael My problem is I have no idea what "it" i.e. the Tetrimon arc is!
What had happened in this arc is a complete mystery to me...
Elanna,
Several of the news stories in the last half-year have been related to the Cult of Tetrimon. Check out the player news centre.
It would seem to be an internal Amarr-only thing (well, Amarr and its satellites), but I could be slightly off in the regard as I haven't payed too much attention to it.
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