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Snodgey2004 Mega Modal M0nkeys	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:45:00 - [481] Originally by: Crovan Originally by: Snodgey2004 Kind of ironic coming from a guy who's corp was in FA Hey! I remember you! How ya been? LoL , I remember you too , still doing my thing - Chamune has been taken over by a different kettle of....new players shall we say
Weatherman Gallente Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.11 18:47:00 - [482] Originally by: Murukan Originally by: Helplessandlost /me faints, quoted twice Well all I can say to that is what has been said before, this ain't the Fix you think you know this is Ixion Unleashed... yah we have heard several times and no one is exactly shaking in their boots. What happened to FAT? sits quietly and lets the forum fill up w/ smack talk Seriously though, it was a good fight so why smack talk now? Let's move on...
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:20:00 - [483] Originally by: Silvestri I bet alot of those kills came from when you first jumped in and were Blue...We thought you were just flying through....until the locks and all hell...run..lol. Curious how many kills you have w/out that period when you first launched the assault... There were eight kills made in that initial encounter, four of them battleships. The rest were after Tyraxx made his announcement and I'm pretty sure we were no longer blue by then. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
BlackHorizon Caldari Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:23:00 - [484] thb, you were blue to us for quite some time (ie. several hours after you out our POS in reenforced), our Genco directors were offline at some party totally drunk and wasted.
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:27:00 - [485] Originally by: BlackHorizon thb, you were blue to us for quite some time (ie. several hours after you out our POS in reenforced), our Genco directors were offline at some party totally drunk and wasted. Friday: 26 kills Saturday: 83 kills Sunday: 69 kills Monday: 114 kills The majority of the kills were made while you were actually well informed about standings. - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:31:00 - [486] Originally by: Seleene The rest were after Tyraxx made his announcement... It's Tyrrax... Must be that sub-standard MC education
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:32:00 - [487] Edited by: Seleene on 11/10/2006 19:32:41 Originally by: BlackHorizon thb, you were blue to us for quite some time (ie. several hours after you out our POS in reenforced), our Genco directors were offline at some party totally drunk and wasted. ROFL!!! I'm sorry, m8, but that's just priceless. That's some serious dedication you've got in that alliance! "Hu- wha- who??" - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Carth Jared Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:46:00 - [488] Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Seleene The rest were after Tyraxx made his announcement... It's Tyrrax... Must be that sub-standard MC education bit thin dont you think?
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:34:00 - [489] Originally by: Carth Jared Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Seleene The rest were after Tyraxx made his announcement... It's Tyrrax... Must be that sub-standard MC education bit thin dont you think? Lighten up, Francis - it's a joke. Go back a page and read Seleene's spelling razz. Man, you MC guys are a little too tightly wound sometimes.
Alfarinn Amarr FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:36:00 - [490] No reason to smack folks, lets keep it clean
tigress Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:49:00 - [491] Hehe, yeah I take the blame! Its those darn fernet shots! they get me all the time, just one more.. one moore.. moores.. aargh Well. :)
Carth Jared Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:58:00 - [492] Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Carth Jared Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Seleene The rest were after Tyraxx made his announcement... It's Tyrrax... Must be that sub-standard MC education bit thin dont you think? Lighten up, Francis - it's a joke. Go back a page and read Seleene's spelling razz. Man, you MC guys are a little too tightly wound sometimes. Dunno what exactly you are refering to and im abit surprised how much you put into my post but as it was, apparently, your attempt at a joke then all is good ;)
Bluebear8 Orion Ore International Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 20:59:00 - [493] Ready to close this thread? I just found Selene's wrap up (MC perspective, ofc) in a separate topic:[url="http://http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=409086"[/url] Losing any large ship is often a bitter pill. We lost our fair share. At least, I had some good 'pew pew' when MC strayed within range once. Most days were fairly lame spent waving at MC's 250k range sniper ships. MC has excellent instincts on when to warp away, and no one should accuse them of underling spies and such stuff. Similarly, we all know deep down that the GM's try hard to do their best under adverse circumstance and odd hours (even though I imagine BOTH sides had many reasons to complain, it's mostly just hard to implement perfect code in this UNIQUE gaming environment). Kudos to all sides, and good luck to devs for continuing to improve the best game in the universe. Anger management? Sure, no game is perfect. So, let's work out our hostilities in the next battle. p.s. - I don't hold any grudges, either. But, shame on anyone in this game who sets MC to anything but RED! (No offense or offence intended ... )
Toman Torax Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:08:00 - [494] Originally by: Carth Jared Dunno what exactly you are refering to and im abit surprised how much you put into my post but as it was, apparently, your attempt at a joke then all is good ;) Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 11/10/2006 09:38:29 Originally by: Peri Helion And Selene...<snip> gets in character (this is fun!) I'll go off of the assumption that you spelled my name wrong due to the sub-standard Amarrian education system. Shame I have to go to such lengths to explain it...
Carth Jared Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.11 21:12:00 - [495] Originally by: Toman Torax Originally by: Carth Jared Dunno what exactly you are refering to and im abit surprised how much you put into my post but as it was, apparently, your attempt at a joke then all is good ;) Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 11/10/2006 09:38:29 Originally by: Peri Helion And Selene...<snip> gets in character (this is fun!) I'll go off of the assumption that you spelled my name wrong due to the sub-standard Amarrian education system. Shame I have to go to such lengths to explain it... Guess i missed it, my apologies. ;)
Gus Preston Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:25:00 - [496] pfffft peenarse. we have too many friends. go wave your ego peen elsewhere. ***
Gus Preston Gallente FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 00:29:00 - [497] oops wrong forum
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 09:52:00 - [498] Pff those kill ratios wouldn't be so hot without the system random warping us to MC camps, nor if we'd kept our blob instead of losing most of it to the random warping crap destroying organization and node crashes destroying inter-alliance communication and sending off GoonSwarm so the Node would be able to handle any action at all http://eve.klaki.net/
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:03:00 - [499] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Pff those kill ratios wouldn't be so hot without the system random warping us to MC camps nor if we'd kept our blob instead of losing most of it to the random warping crap destroying organization and node crashes destroying inter-alliance communication The above affected us as well. We just had a bit more practice at recovering recently. Tyrrax, why are you continuing with this when there are people all throuhout this thread who do not feel the need to try to make excuses for thier losses? - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:11:00 - [500] Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 12/10/2006 10:12:34 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Pff those kill ratios wouldn't be so hot without the system random warping us to MC camps, nor if we'd kept our blob instead of losing most of it to the random warping crap destroying organization and node crashes destroying inter-alliance communication and sending off GoonSwarm so the Node would be able to handle any action at all If it hadnt been for said node crashes you wouldn't have been able to jump 3 dreads out, get moved out of the camped station and redock, pick up you're cans and move people about of the system while we had to sit and watch. Oh and we lost a good few BS due to node crashes and being put back in front of a gate or station with hostiles. So its not like it was one sided.
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:32:00 - [501] Node crashes?? errrr Didn't you guys download the Node Crash Immunity Patch? KIA EVE Home
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:36:00 - [502] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Pff those kill ratios wouldn't be so hot without the system random warping us to MC camps nor if we'd kept our blob instead of losing most of it to the random warping crap destroying organization and node crashes destroying inter-alliance communication The above affected us as well. We just had a bit more practice at recovering recently. Tyrrax, why are you continuing with this when there are people all throuhout this thread who do not feel the need to try to make excuses for thier losses? Because there are pilots in your camp that seem to keep digging in the sheer numbers of kills they reaped in? I dunno... maybe its just because we like talking to you since you are nowhere in JZV to shoot Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:37:00 - [503] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 12/10/2006 10:12:34 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Pff those kill ratios wouldn't be so hot without the system random warping us to MC camps, nor if we'd kept our blob instead of losing most of it to the random warping crap destroying organization and node crashes destroying inter-alliance communication and sending off GoonSwarm so the Node would be able to handle any action at all If it hadnt been for said node crashes you wouldn't have been able to jump 3 dreads out, get moved out of the camped station and redock, pick up you're cans and move people about of the system while we had to sit and watch. Oh and we lost a good few BS due to node crashes and being put back in front of a gate or station with hostiles. So its not like it was one sided. And without node crashes we wouldn't have watched the GM scoop your f'n fighter drones and GIVE them back to the carrier pilot either. Don't play coy. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Muadeeb Ousil Minmatar Office linebackers Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:44:00 - [504] I agree with your viewpoint that both sides were effected Traxio. I've all ready discussed with you the unreported loss of the MC Rapier (+pod) via PM's, and thats where intended on leaving it (or at least until i can claim 5 mil from Seleene ) However your k/boards will show a K/D ratio that is incorrect; if you assume the standard set by the rapier pilot is the same for all MC pilots then MC pilots are picking and choosing which deathmails to add due to the conditions of server (unstable), however there will be no such thought on the Killmails claimed (are you going to Pm your opponent and ask him if it was fair death) chances are not. Im sure a small % of the killmails (Or IAC deathmails) will also be related to weirdness in the server - as such the contract stats as stated at the MC K/B are pretty inaccurate until both sides add ALL killmails - (Screwy server or not). Besides i like being 2-0
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:52:00 - [505] Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 12/10/2006 10:56:28 Originally by: Muadeeb Ousil Edited by: Muadeeb Ousil on 12/10/2006 10:48:01 I agree with your viewpoint that both sides were effected Traxio. I've all ready discussed with you the unreported loss of the MC Rapier (+pod) via PM's, and thats where intended on leaving it (or at least until i can claim 5 mil from Seleene ) However your k/boards will show a K/D ratio that is incorrect; if you assume the standard set by the rapier pilot is the same for all MC pilots then MC pilots are picking and choosing which deathmails to add due to the conditions of server (unstable), however there will be no such thought on the Killmails claimed (are you going to Pm your opponent and ask him if it was fair death) chances are not. Im sure a small % of the killmails (Or IAC deathmails) will also be related to weirdness in the server - as such the contract stats as stated at the MC K/B are pretty inaccurate until both sides add ALL killmails - (Screwy server or not). Besides i like being 2-0 Edit* P.S - to the person that wants this thread shut, just because Seleene posts a pretty story dosn't mean the Contracts over. All they are doing is to clearing the area until the next push. Don't be mistaken in thinking anyone has "won or lost " yet. Like I said in our Eve mails if the ship is not replaced the mail will be posted. Quote: Besides i like being 2-0 Sounds like the England match
Muadeeb Ousil Minmatar Office linebackers Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.12 10:59:00 - [506] Edited by: Muadeeb Ousil on 12/10/2006 11:03:43 And thats acceptable...as i understand the server was unstable. However - if this is the standard MC set on reporting loss mails then all contract stats are under suspicion. If you re-read my viewpoint above if your target is hampered by the same conditions then you can not claim 100% of you death mails and expect to have an accurate k/d ratio. To be taken seriously those boards need to have a consistent method of reporting both Kiimails and Deathmails - the only entitys i know off that attempt to get away with 2 different standards for reporting the same stat are the respective Goverments of the world. Lets hope MC ain't turned into politicians reporting stats as they see fit rather than the truth. Edit* Decided that last statement sounded harsh and TBH MC are doing nothing different in reporting stats than any other Alliance does i suppose - however the error is still there. On a last note if Seleene does give me 5 mil after 3 days i dont care 2 hoots whether the stat is posted or not. Isk always superceeds vanity
Zaphod Jones Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.12 11:05:00 - [507] Originally by: KIAEddZ Node crashes?? errrr Didn't you guys download the Node Crash Immunity Patch? I assume you had your corp members apply that one AFTER the fight in Y9G ?
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 11:08:00 - [508] To be honest Muadeeb Ousil we haven't really had a contract that has had so many server issues before. We do try and keep our KB as acurate as we can as mouthing off about we have prefect kill ratios is not gonna do us any good. However we don't feel it right to post a loss that CCP deem to be out of "our" control (IE ship is replaced). I'm sure there are some kills on our board that have been petetioned by IAC members due to server problems. But due to IAC having a private KB we can't see if they are posting all their losses, just our KB is a viewable one to the public. (please note i'm in no way saying you aren't its just an example)
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.12 11:51:00 - [509] Originally by: Eyeshadow And its IAC calling in the help, not us, so get ya ******* facts straight, moron Well lets see... 22+ dreads roll into your territory during homecoming weekend in USA and Canadian Thanksgiving. Basically it says to me, "Hey lets use timezones against them and national hollidays because we want to get this over with as soon as possible." Get your facts straight eyeshadow. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Eleese Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.12 11:58:00 - [510] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Originally by: Eyeshadow And its IAC calling in the help, not us, so get ya ***** facts straight, moron Well lets see... 22+ dreads roll into your territory during homecoming weekend in USA and Canadian Thanksgiving. Basically it says to me, "Hey lets use timezones against them and national hollidays because we want to get this over with as soon as possible." Get your facts straight eyeshadow. Oh ** your right if it wasnt thanks giving or whatever... it would have been 35+ dreads :) And my point of view on the kb issue (yes my personal view point which carries no weight to get it changed) is all kill/losses should be posted reguardless of if replaced. BEcause otherwise its inaccurate unless we edit all our kills who had their ships replaced. And to support my view if you check my stats the 2 battleships and arazu on my losses (not from this contract) were both replaced. :). I think you have a choice either post everything for both sides or remove replaced ships for both sides. I know which is easier to admin for.

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