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Tribunal
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.09 05:52:00 -
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Edited by: Tribunal on 09/10/2006 05:52:13
Originally by: Louisa Torres I once caught a fish this big
You have no idea what the situation is, but yet you continue to run your mouth with your over inflated ego. I am eagerly awaiting this fraps of you owning 10 dreads with 10 Battleships.
Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 09/10/2006 00:13:08
Originally by: Sivona I dont know where this idea of McFix outnumbering IAC + Snigg + CVA has come from, throughout most the day they've been hiding at pos with 2:1 odds in their favour, i'm not *****ing about being outnumbered but we certainly dont outnumber them
.. gee then they don't even have that excuse... perhaps IAC leadership should tell their lower ranking members to stay off the forums.. cause they are making the whole alliance look a bit silly... 
Perhaps you should talk about an issue that you have a clue about before responding? Any comment made about being outgunned/outnumbered had to with day one of this assault when every IAC PoS in g-7 was placed in reinforced. At that time IAC was outgunned, outnumbered, and strategically outplayed. If the tables have suddenly turned then that doesn't suddenly erase what happened on day one.
"We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers |

Hani EQ
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.09 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Tribunal
Perhaps you should talk about an issue that you have a clue about before responding? Any comment made about being outgunned/outnumbered had to with day one of this assault when every IAC PoS in g-7 was placed in reinforced. At that time IAC was outgunned, outnumbered, and strategically outplayed. If the tables have suddenly turned then that doesn't suddenly erase what happened on day one.
I think you might find that if you check your numbers, at several points during the initial dread assault.. not only did you have equal numbers in g-7, but also a nice sized reserve fleet in F4. We were a little confused at to why you weren't engaging. But now you have your friends, it's all good, we'll engage them too.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.09 06:14:00 -
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Originally by: Hani EQ
Originally by: Tribunal
Perhaps you should talk about an issue that you have a clue about before responding? Any comment made about being outgunned/outnumbered had to with day one of this assault when every IAC PoS in g-7 was placed in reinforced. At that time IAC was outgunned, outnumbered, and strategically outplayed. If the tables have suddenly turned then that doesn't suddenly erase what happened on day one.
I think you might find that if you check your numbers, at several points during the initial dread assault.. not only did you have equal numbers in g-7, but also a nice sized reserve fleet in F4. We were a little confused at to why you weren't engaging. But now you have your friends, it's all good, we'll engage them too.
Please stop trying to derail and provide disinformation. Noone cares about these forum flame wars. When you have 22 dreads and 120+ support drop out of nowhere you then you don't have much to do but sit your miners and NPCers down and stay safe to come back to fight.
Numbers in local don't make your words correct. Being hit hard and fast does exactly what it is supposed to do : knock you off your guard. You did just that. Congratulations on it. But that was Friday. Its Monday. New day... new battle. If you are here for the long run and want to have fun then fine. If all you want to do is run your mouth then your acting like a bairn.
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Jouni Kalmar
Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.09 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Manfred Sideous Tyyrax how about you bring 100 that gives you 2 versus 1 over MCFix. That should be a good fight and you still have odds in your favor. 300 is just ridiculous and I think most will agree. The Eve servers cant handle that. So lets be bigger and honorable men and fight within the constraints of the server.
How about we keep doing what we're doing, and you guys try to leave without getting shot.
First you come here, attack us and take our station, ok all good there, but then you (MC/fix) start smacking local + on forums, gloating and posting about how good u are then when you start losing and you start crying.
Heres how it went, you came in, caught us off guard, you out numbered at the time and out gunned us, now the roles are reversed and we're taking back what is rightfully ours.
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Alfarinn
Amarr FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.09 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: HawkeyeOne Man, I still can't believe I wasn't invited to the conga party.
In open defiance of Operation Prohibition 23 IAC pilots + 1 Snigg pilot opened the beer reserves at an undisclosed POS and a drunken conga-line quickly ensured! Analysts are concerned with this recent development and believe that it may indeed be more difficult than was first thought for McFix to confiscate all Alcohol.
Time: 59 Seconds Size: ~15Mb Linketh: IAC Conga Line
Good-luck, have fun all 
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jouni Kalmar Heres how it went, you came in, caught us off guard,
Yes, then a node crash gave you back a station you should not have had access to for nearly a day.
Then you had GM assistance in moving everything from haulers to Dreads out of the area while we were banned from shooting you. And people are saying the GMs are on our side? Please. 
Quote: you out numbered at the time and out gunned us,
Friday night was the only time we've held the numerical advantage.
Quote: now the roles are reversed and we're taking back what is rightfully ours.
And both sides are crippled due to the five node drops tonight.
This whole thing has turned into a major cluster**** of epic proportions. We're still fighting you and doing quite well, so tossing the word 'losing' around is a bit presumptuous.
I refuse to blame IAC, MC, FIX or anyone for crashing the node. The game's code is to blame and it's pretty much ruined any chance of this war following any type of plan.
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Tribunal
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.09 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: Hani EQ
Originally by: Tribunal
Perhaps you should talk about an issue that you have a clue about before responding? Any comment made about being outgunned/outnumbered had to with day one of this assault when every IAC PoS in g-7 was placed in reinforced. At that time IAC was outgunned, outnumbered, and strategically outplayed. If the tables have suddenly turned then that doesn't suddenly erase what happened on day one.
I think you might find that if you check your numbers, at several points during the initial dread assault.. not only did you have equal numbers in g-7, but also a nice sized reserve fleet in F4. We were a little confused at to why you weren't engaging. But now you have your friends, it's all good, we'll engage them too.
That "reserve fleet" in f4 was our entire PvP fleet as we were headed to take care of another issue. There is no possible way that number of pilots in g-7 was equal to the full force that you guys brought.
"We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers |

Yalson
Caldari Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.09 06:32:00 -
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Folks, it's been friendly so far, both in local and on the forum, let's keep it this way even if the nodes cannot keep up with all the fun. Of _course_ IAC will throw in every last ship to defend their territory and regain control; and if ship types, equipment or skill points are lacking larger numbers are the great equalizer.
I certainly would not want to be the FC having to decide how many ships are sufficient for a given task and small enough to keep the node running. Splitting up the IAC and friends force to fight several smaller battles would be great, but it's not always going to be feasible.
Have fun?
-- Yalson
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Lizza Ecktar
Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.09 06:36:00 -
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Quote: First you come here, attack us and take our station, ok all good there, but then you (MC/fix) start smacking local + on forums, gloating and posting about how good u are then when you start losing and you start crying.
I don't think anyone is crying over anything except that the node crashed. We went up there expecting to get a good fight and have a good time, just a shame that the servers can't handle it.
I was there for the initial attack and the whole first day until you broke our camp and i got myself podded :). That day i had fun. Saturday i couldn't get online and play but from what i've heard you had some good fights and then the node was borked until DT. This sunday i hopped in my shiny new ship and headed out to g-7 again with hopes of getting in another fun fight like we had on friday, but the node couldn't handle your reinforcements and crashed. I'm not blaming any of you guys for getting togheter as many people as you can for defending something that you built and hold dear, most of our frustration is from not getting the good fights we were hoping for, mostly due to the servers not being able to handle it.
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Alistair Theisman
Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.09 06:49:00 -
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Well at the very least the Devs should have plenty of nice data to mine and hopefully find ways to stabilize the server. In the meantime all the fighting down here is rapidly turning into a state of futility. Guess ASCN and BOB, MCFix (love that name btw ) and IAC/friends, are all finding out what it was like with the Coalition vs RA. 
In the meantime, we all will continue bashing our heads against the wall of lag in the hopes to see some pretty lights and explosions.
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Gabriel Karade
Office linebackers Blood of the Innocents
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Posted - 2006.10.09 06:57:00 -
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Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 09/10/2006 06:59:20
I'd like to point out that during the first Sisi stress test, having drones out or drones in, made not the slightest difference to the time to node crash 
So what if IAC and allies brought 300? You attacked the Home System what do you expect? and besides, it's not as if any sort of fleet battle beyond 50 vs 50 is really possible with the current server status...
Relax man, and wait for the bang  ----------
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Jouni Kalmar
Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.09 07:02:00 -
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Originally by: Yalson Folks, it's been friendly so far, both in local and on the forum, let's keep it this way even if the nodes cannot keep up with all the fun. Of _course_ IAC will throw in every last ship to defend their territory and regain control; and if ship types, equipment or skill points are lacking larger numbers are the great equalizer.
I certainly would not want to be the FC having to decide how many ships are sufficient for a given task and small enough to keep the node running. Splitting up the IAC and friends force to fight several smaller battles would be great, but it's not always going to be feasible.
Have fun?
-- Yalson
Well said Yalson, thats 100% my thinking.
This goes for anyone, you cant expect to come and try to take someones station and expect the current occupants to just roll over and die. Wheres the fun in that?
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tigress
Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.09 07:56:00 -
[253]
Yes please keep this civil still, okay?
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Eleese
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: tigress Yes please keep this civil still, okay?
Looks quite civil to me, just a debate over tactics, not really a smack fest people are making valid points, just seems eitherside are taking opposite view points to it which is understandable.
A debate doesnt always = flames/smack. Merely a case of people voicing their points of view on an issue and then analysing others points of view and countering them.
Obviously there is the occasional point which may over step a debate and become a little borderline from both sides but as a whole pretty civil.
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tigress
Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.09 09:30:00 -
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Good, that's the way we want all to feel throughout this :).
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Kaiu
Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.10.09 09:35:00 -
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I say bring 500 ppl IAC!
Go for it. Don't be pushed around.. and CERTAINLY don't let them attempt to use the 'play fair' card what a f*cking joke LOL ____________________ MOGarmy
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.09 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Yes, then a node crash gave you back a station you should not have had access to for nearly a day.
Then you had GM assistance in moving everything from haulers to Dreads out of the area while we were banned from shooting you. And people are saying the GMs are on our side? Please. 
What????
That is exceedingly poor form if that happened. I'd very much like to hear the details of that somewhere, although not in here clearly as we don't want to upset Eris, Wrangler or their minions 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Kaiu
Hinkledolph and K Associates The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.10.09 09:53:00 -
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You don't believe that the Defenders should have the 'help' in such Laggy unplayable conditions? ____________________ MOGarmy
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Sir JoJo
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.09 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kaiu You don't believe that the Defenders should have the 'help' in such Laggy unplayable conditions?
no not when the aggresor has take the station
then a node crash shouldent give it back.
*snip* Don't be nasty [email protected] to discuss mod - Cathath i am not nasty |

Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 10:02:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHorizon Edited by: BlackHorizon on 09/10/2006 03:21:49 At this moment, a coalition of approximately 320 ships has now secured G-7 for IAC from MC/FIX.
We have set aside our differences and united.
2006.10.09 09:35
Solar System: G-7WUF Conquered Corporation: The Imperial Commonwealth Conquering Corporation: Body Count Inc. Conquering Character: Caya
Ping Pong.  -
- One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them. |

Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 10:09:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Seleene Yes, then a node crash gave you back a station you should not have had access to for nearly a day.
Then you had GM assistance in moving everything from haulers to Dreads out of the area while we were banned from shooting you. And people are saying the GMs are on our side? Please. 
What????
That is exceedingly poor form if that happened. I'd very much like to hear the details of that somewhere, although not in here clearly as we don't want to upset Eris, Wrangler or their minions 
Just read the MC forum its on their 
On a serious note i'm sure if you hit Sel he'll explain it.
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Emeline Cabernet
Amarr KVA Noble Inc.
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Posted - 2006.10.09 10:39:00 -
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who is on iac's side? nos and cva?
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Eyeshadow
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: Emeline Cabernet who is on iac's side? nos and cva?
At the moment its IAC, CVA, Snigg + AXE versus MC + FIX
Id love some spare time to come fight but im a little busy at the moment. Maybe i'll be around at the weekend 
My Latest Vid (18/04/06) |

Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Emeline Cabernet who is on iac's side? nos and cva?
Don't think NOS are or at least not yet 
But at the mo
CVA AXE Snigg
Possibly some others, was a turn up for the books to see CVA working along side pirates what is the universe coming to. 
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dralid
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.09 10:56:00 -
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Oh, they hired pirates to help? If we would have set our differences aside, we could have helped ... but bring in pirates? -- Do YOU know, the Whirlwind? HERE |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 11:03:00 -
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I very much would like to know what CVA thinks they are doing here. More targets 4TW, but this is a bit of an RP stretch isn't it, fellas?  -
Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters? |

Waagaa Ktlehr
Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene I very much would like to know what CVA thinks they are doing here. More targets 4TW, but this is a bit of an RP stretch isn't it, fellas? 
CVA was only there on Saturday though, they went home approximately two hours after they first arrived. They haven't been seen afterwards by me. Were they there this morning? :) -
- One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them. |

Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.09 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Waagaa Ktlehr
Originally by: Seleene I very much would like to know what CVA thinks they are doing here. More targets 4TW, but this is a bit of an RP stretch isn't it, fellas? 
CVA was only there on Saturday though, they went home approximately two hours after they first arrived. They haven't been seen afterwards by me. Were they there this morning? :)
Aralis got left behind and lost his BS this morning, along with... many others.  -
Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters? |

Roke E'raith
Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.09 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene I very much would like to know what CVA thinks they are doing here. More targets 4TW, but this is a bit of an RP stretch isn't it, fellas? 
So if we roleplay we cannot make friends of other alliances? As I know some of you realize, CVA has been a friend of IAC for a long time. I am sure you get information from other sources as well.
What I wonder is why this is spun up now? Is there a particular reason for all the questions from MC about CVA and IAC at this time? A
And to answer another question, CVA have had representatives in the systems most of the time this weekend. All due to time zones, though.
Paranoia is a way of life. Long life. |

Jouni Kalmar
Gallente Meow co. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.09 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sir JoJo
Originally by: Kaiu You don't believe that the Defenders should have the 'help' in such Laggy unplayable conditions?
no not when the aggresor has take the station
then a node crash shouldent give it back.
So what about the 3+ hours extra we spent retaking the station to help the devs gather extra data to combat the lag when that 3 hours could have been spent with us shield boosting the station... but i guess u just forgot about that one right?
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