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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi Well lets see... 22+ dreads roll into your territory during homecoming weekend in USA and Canadian Thanksgiving. Basically it says to me, "Hey lets use timezones against them and national hollidays
Umm... yeah... Actually, I think the official planning went something like:
MC - "Hey, FIX, is next Friday good for you?"
FIX - "Yeah, that sounds fine."
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.12 13:02:00 -
[512]
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
But due to IAC having a private KB we can't see if they are posting all their losses, just our KB is a viewable one to the public. (please note i'm in no way saying you aren't its just an example)
to be honest
they arn't all posted, but the only reason we have a killboard is to distribute replacement ships and mods, if you don't post a ship loss you don't get any reimburcement. and we also get paid for our kills (though the bastards stiffed me again this month ) so i can say for sure all kills are posted :P
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 13:09:00 -
[513]
Quote: (though the bastards stiffed me again this month)
Awwwww mate wanna borrow some isk?
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Max Teranous
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 13:10:00 -
[514]
Originally by: DHB FooFighter and we also get paid for our kills (though the bastards stiffed me again this month ) so i can say for sure all kills are posted :P
I want to be paid per kill Sel !!!!!!!
Max
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Niding
Polaris Project
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Posted - 2006.10.12 13:14:00 -
[515]
Edited by: Niding on 12/10/2006 13:14:29 In the end, does it really matter?
IAC kept their station AND got some very good PVP lessons at the capable hands of MC and FIX.
The loss of a BS is hard for a new soul wandering the EVE galaxy, but for those who have started wandering the 0.0 starlanes, a BS is easily replaced thanks to your friendly insurance company.
Due to the awe of MC cap fleet, IACs friends united and for that IAC should be greatful. Now they know they can count of assistance when needed.
This campaign seems to have done IAC a great service.
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.12 13:20:00 -
[516]
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Quote: (though the bastards stiffed me again this month)
Awwwww mate wanna borrow some isk?
you can send me 140 mil to cover what ive been left out :).
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 13:22:00 -
[517]
Originally by: Niding Edited by: Niding on 12/10/2006 13:14:29 In the end, does it really matter?
IAC kept their station AND got some very good PVP lessons at the capable hands of MC and FIX.
The loss of a BS is hard for a new soul wandering the EVE galaxy, but for those who have started wandering the 0.0 starlanes, a BS is easily replaced thanks to your friendly insurance company.
Due to the awe of MC cap fleet, IACs friends united and for that IAC should be greatful. Now they know they can count of assistance when needed.
This campaign seems to have done IAC a great service.
I think that says it nicely
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:51:00 -
[518]
Originally by: Max Teranous
Originally by: DHB FooFighter and we also get paid for our kills (though the bastards stiffed me again this month ) so i can say for sure all kills are posted :P
I want to be paid per kill Sel !!!!!!!
FFS... Grimster wants a puppy and now you want an allowance?? Frakkin' kids, I swear... -
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Grimster
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 15:53:00 -
[519]
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Max Teranous
Originally by: DHB FooFighter and we also get paid for our kills (though the bastards stiffed me again this month ) so i can say for sure all kills are posted :P
I want to be paid per kill Sel !!!!!!!
FFS... Grimster wants a puppy and now you want an allowance?? Frakkin' kids, I swear...
Now I want a puppy AND an allowance!
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 16:31:00 -
[520]
Originally by: Grimster
Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Max Teranous
Originally by: DHB FooFighter and we also get paid for our kills (though the bastards stiffed me again this month ) so i can say for sure all kills are posted :P
I want to be paid per kill Sel !!!!!!!
FFS... Grimster wants a puppy and now you want an allowance?? Frakkin' kids, I swear...
Now I want a puppy AND an allowance!
Cats are better, although this don't mean I want to be paid in them!
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Grimster
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 16:32:00 -
[521]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Cats are better, although this don't mean I want to be paid in them!
Do we have to go through this again?
Hmmm?
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:47:00 -
[522]
cats are cool but can in no way compare to a puppy. Cats love ya when they want to, dogs love you all the time
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 12/10/2006 20:51:41
Someone else replied to your question for me Seleene
Regarding not posting killmails that were reimbursed by GMs, I think that's pretty damn idiotic, always have thought so. I post all my losses, including ones GMs replaced, so should everyone else since you're not about to remove kills where the victim got it refunded.
(Not that I petitioned any of my losses or anything, haven't lost anything to bugs in this particular conflict.)
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.12 20:56:00 -
[524]
I thought the petition queue was months long. How did u get refunded so quickly?
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 21:05:00 -
[525]
Originally by: Shin Ra I thought the petition queue was months long. How did u get refunded so quickly?
At the moment it seems to be really random, I know people who have got ships replaced in a week and I know people that are still waiting after almost a month.
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Julien Derida
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.12 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 12/10/2006 20:51:41 Regarding not posting killmails that were reimbursed by GMs, I think that's pretty damn idiotic, always have thought so. I post all my losses, including ones GMs replaced, so should everyone else since you're not about to remove kills where the victim got it refunded.
To be fair, that policy was a product of a time when petionable losses were rare and petitions were dealt with quickly. It arguably made sense then. In light of the current state of the server and petition system, not to mention the discussion here, I think we've changed our stance on the issue (although you'd have to ask Seleene for the official word).
It makes very little difference anyway. Even given the ridiculous server problems in our last week of combat, there have only been two petioned MC losses that I am aware of. ----------------------------------------
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.12 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Eyeshadow
Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 11/10/2006 15:25:46 So all I am hearing is (mostly from MC) -BRING. IT. ON. -Who cares if CVA or goons or snigg are coming to help IAC -We are uber....
but wait we need to call in KIA for help cause we cant handle the drunk swarm. What happened to MC I thought they could handle anything 8).
And then there is IAC .... -Who gives a *** grab more beer get your dread or friggy and lets rock! I need more beer.... where the heck is my beer ... lol Im on my third chug already! WildCat
Is every Burn Eden member made into a complete **** when they join the corp? Is it part of your initiation or something?
Do you honestly think, as mercs, that we would hire other mercs? Get real
And its IAC calling in the help, not us, so get ya ******* facts straight, moron
For someone who is afraid to talk to us in RL, u sure do have a big mouth on the forums.
Wildat's brother is an IAC FC. Hardly seems strange he sticks up for him.
Its not totally out of the question for u to hire other mercs if u need something done.
It would appear to make sense that whomever hired u guys, hired KIA too. Thus, your "side", as it were, is calling in more help. Perhaps a response to the CVA presence, who knows. We know you hate us, but are u really doing yourself or MC any favours making such a big deal out of it every time we say something. If you want to proove you point, do so with reason, not by throwing ur toys out of the pram.
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Bacilius
The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 05:30:00 -
[528]
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Cats are better, although this don't mean I want to be paid in them!
I love cats... I just can't eat a whole one.
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Tribunal
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 05:52:00 -
[529]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Originally by: DHB WildCat Edited by: DHB WildCat on 11/10/2006 15:25:46 So all I am hearing is (mostly from MC) -BRING. IT. ON. -Who cares if CVA or goons or snigg are coming to help IAC -We are uber....
but wait we need to call in KIA for help cause we cant handle the drunk swarm. What happened to MC I thought they could handle anything 8).
And then there is IAC .... -Who gives a *** grab more beer get your dread or friggy and lets rock! I need more beer.... where the heck is my beer ... lol Im on my third chug already! WildCat
Is every Burn Eden member made into a complete **** when they join the corp? Is it part of your initiation or something?
Do you honestly think, as mercs, that we would hire other mercs? Get real
And its IAC calling in the help, not us, so get ya ******* facts straight, moron
For someone who is afraid to talk to us in RL, u sure do have a big mouth on the forums.
Wildat's brother is an IAC FC. Hardly seems strange he sticks up for him.
Its not totally out of the question for u to hire other mercs if u need something done.
It would appear to make sense that whomever hired u guys, hired KIA too. Thus, your "side", as it were, is calling in more help. Perhaps a response to the CVA presence, who knows. We know you hate us, but are u really doing yourself or MC any favours making such a big deal out of it every time we say something. If you want to proove you point, do so with reason, not by throwing ur toys out of the pram.
Shina Ra, you should bring down Burn Eden to help IAC out. The backlash from such an act would probaly put the forum server into meltdown mode.
"We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers |
Rizmordan Hillgotlieb
Gallente Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 06:32:00 -
[530]
To the IAC and all of our former contract targets who think we are evil, mean and like to bully you around for the ISK (which we do - we are evil to the core). You are right, we are wrong. I personally apologize to all of you. I am sorry.
Yes, it is agreed by all parties involved in this conflict and past conflicts. The following issues and/or labels do apply to the MC.
The MC...
1. Are Forum Smacktalkers and Flamebaiters (Local Chat as well for that matter). 2. Have a great disdain for all non-pvprs and know nothing of the hardship and toil of industrialists. Obviously no one person can understand both PvP and Industry in this game. 3. Will not engage in combat without superior numbers. 4. Sees and uses unfair advantages given by Server Lag and or Node Crashes. 5. Is unable to accomplish anything without help. 6. Uses skillpoint advantages/margins and tactics/weapons/ammo which use those advantages/margins unfairly. 7. Purposely stacks it's killboards to pad the true numbers and make themselves look good. They never try to portray accuracy. 8. Consistantly fails to realize the depth of play and sportmanship BURN EDEN and other similar corps/alliance have brought to the eve community. 9. Is probably the least professional, trustworthy and honorable alliances in the game. 10. Has not made an impact in the game and is a flash-in-the-pan BoB fanboi alliance that will not pass the test of time.
Again apologies to our current targets (to include but not limited to) IAC, CVA, BE, SNIGG, AXE.... and well, all the rest of EVE. I am truly sorry.
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 06:46:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho To be honest Muadeeb Ousil we haven't really had a contract that has had so many server issues before.
We do try and keep our KB as acurate as we can as mouthing off about we have prefect kill ratios is not gonna do us any good.
However we don't feel it right to post a loss that CCP deem to be out of "our" control (IE ship is replaced).
I'm sure there are some kills on our board that have been petetioned by IAC members due to server problems.
But due to IAC having a private KB we can't see if they are posting all their losses, just our KB is a viewable one to the public. (please note i'm in no way saying you aren't its just an example)
Very shaky ground that one, Traxio - I know we were considering doing something similar but we decided that ALL losses, regardless of replacements, should be posted to prevent just the kind of rubbish I'm sure you're now suffering with, heh.
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Louisa Torres
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.13 06:47:00 -
[532]
Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb Edited by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb on 13/10/2006 06:37:58 To the IAC and all of our former contract targets who think we are evil, mean and like to bully you around for the ISK (which we do - we are evil to the core). You are right, we are wrong. I personally apologize to all of you. I am sorry.
Yes, it is agreed by all parties involved in this conflict and past conflicts. The following issues and/or labels do apply to the MC.
The MC...
1. Are Forum Smacktalkers and Flamebaiters (Local Chat as well for that matter). 2. Have a great disdain for all non-pvprs and know nothing of the hardship and toil of industrialists. Obviously no one person can understand both PvP and Industry in this game. 3. Will not engage in combat without superior numbers. 4. Sees and uses unfair advantages given by Server Lag and or Node Crashes. 5. Is unable to accomplish anything without help. 6. Uses skillpoint advantages/margins and tactics/weapons/ammo which use those advantages/margins unfairly. 7. Purposely stacks it's killboards to pad the true numbers and make themselves look good. They never try to portray accuracy. 8. Consistantly fails to realize the depth of play and sportmanship BURN EDEN and other similar corps/alliance have brought to the eve community. 9. Is probably the least professional, trustworthy and honorable alliances in the game. 10. Has not made an impact in the game and is a flash-in-the-pan BoB fanboi alliance that will not pass the test of time.
Again apologies to our current targets (to include but not limited to) IAC, CVA, SNIGG, AXE.... and well, all the rest of EVE**. I am truly sorry.
**(edit - except for BoB they will never be our targets, we are afterall their alts)
POST WITH YOUR MAIN!
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 07:13:00 -
[533]
Originally by: Bacilius
Originally by: Hans Roaming
Cats are better, although this don't mean I want to be paid in them!
I love cats... I just can't eat a whole one.
OMG, you are soooooooo Primary if I see you now.
Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: Traxio Nacho To be honest Muadeeb Ousil we haven't really had a contract that has had so many server issues before.
We do try and keep our KB as acurate as we can as mouthing off about we have prefect kill ratios is not gonna do us any good.
However we don't feel it right to post a loss that CCP deem to be out of "our" control (IE ship is replaced).
I'm sure there are some kills on our board that have been petetioned by IAC members due to server problems.
But due to IAC having a private KB we can't see if they are posting all their losses, just our KB is a viewable one to the public. (please note i'm in no way saying you aren't its just an example)
Very shaky ground that one, Traxio - I know we were considering doing something similar but we decided that ALL losses, regardless of replacements, should be posted to prevent just the kind of rubbish I'm sure you're now suffering with, heh.
We're currently looking at this now. The truth is that, until the last couple contracts and all the node drops, we really do not have experience with entire fleets being peitioned and sometimes replaced.
Regardless, I'm pretty sure we will soon adopt the policy you mention, Louisa.
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Latex Mistress
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 07:15:00 -
[534]
Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb Edited by: Rizmordan Hillgotlieb on 13/10/2006 06:37:58 To the IAC and all of our former contract targets who think we are evil, mean and like to bully you around for the ISK (which we do - we are evil to the core). You are right, we are wrong. I personally apologize to all of you. I am sorry.
Yes, it is agreed by all parties involved in this conflict and past conflicts. The following issues and/or labels do apply to the MC.
The MC...
1. Are Forum Smacktalkers and Flamebaiters (Local Chat as well for that matter). 2. Have a great disdain for all non-pvprs and know nothing of the hardship and toil of industrialists. Obviously no one person can understand both PvP and Industry in this game. 3. Will not engage in combat without superior numbers. 4. Sees and uses unfair advantages given by Server Lag and or Node Crashes. 5. Is unable to accomplish anything without help. 6. Uses skillpoint advantages/margins and tactics/weapons/ammo which use those advantages/margins unfairly. 7. Purposely stacks it's killboards to pad the true numbers and make themselves look good. They never try to portray accuracy. 8. Consistantly fails to realize the depth of play and sportmanship BURN EDEN and other similar corps/alliance have brought to the eve community. 9. Is probably the least professional, trustworthy and honorable alliances in the game. 10. Has not made an impact in the game and is a flash-in-the-pan BoB fanboi alliance that will not pass the test of time.
Again apologies to our current targets (to include but not limited to) IAC, CVA, SNIGG, AXE.... and well, all the rest of EVE**. I am truly sorry.
**(edit - except for BoB they will never be our targets, we are afterall their alts)
POST WITH YOUR MAIN!
LM
Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
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Eyeshadow
Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: shin ra For someone who is afraid to talk to us in RL, u sure do have a big mouth on the forums.
LMAO. Ever thought that i DONT want to speak to you IRL? Im not afraid to talk to you, not in the slightest, i just dont talk to people i dont like.
And i mean i dont like IRL. Ive spoken to a lot of people i dont like in game, and most of them are actually alright. You on the other hand, are a berk here and IRL
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:53:00 -
[536]
oy, shin your distracting people from the OP. :P
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.13 08:57:00 -
[537]
Originally by: Eyeshadow
Originally by: shin ra For someone who is afraid to talk to us in RL, u sure do have a big mouth on the forums.
LMAO. Ever thought that i DONT want to speak to you IRL? Im not afraid to talk to you, not in the slightest, i just dont talk to people i dont like.
And i mean i dont like IRL. Ive spoken to a lot of people i dont like in game, and most of them are actually alright. You on the other hand, are a berk here and IRL
Yes, I just said that disrepect you.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:11:00 -
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Well, seeing as how the mods are so interested in my threads today, could a mod please clean this one up a bit? It's still relavent to the on-going IAC war and I'd prefer that it not get locked. -
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Darkmist Starpain
Locust Syndicate Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 09:33:00 -
[539]
Mean mods. So what if it was a bit nudge-grudge-wink-thwap for CCP and not exactly CAO discussion.
Shame that mods don't have a sense of humour. They take their thing too seriously or not seriously enough. Next thing they'll add some censoring on my wanna-be-sig for lack of content or some such. Bet you the 5 iskies you owe me for that.
And no I'm not drunk nor am I behaving badly.
CCP: I don't pay 15 bucks a month to test/develop/bug hunt your game. I pay to play.
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Semkhet
The Priory Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.13 11:48:00 -
[540]
I hope this thread will expand without being clogged by crap as it makes an interesting read. For the little I've had the opportunity to whitness, kudos to MC: things are done efficiently with a balanced mix of planning, tactical flair, discipline and ressources. That's what you expect of experienced mercs.
However I'am a bit puzzled by the mindset of the few opponents I've had the chance to encounter on an individual level. I understand that as a corp, you guys are mainly interested by getting the job done and retrieving as many killmails as possible. It's the attitude your employers count on and you fulfill your role wonderfully.
But between corporate ops, trying to engage your people on an individual level is as interesting as watching drying paint, since at least until today, I've not been able to meet alone a single MC (or one of your allies for that matter) in the same ship class willing to accept a fight without being backed by a gang waiting to assist.
Don't get me wrong, no whine here. I'am simply trying to tell that these wars give us the opportunity to evolve in rich target environments. If the constant quest of absolute efficiency gets the top priority, IMHO we are indirectly lowering the amount of fun EVE can offer to PvP'ers. Again, while such attitude is of essence when acting within a corp operation, it doesen't preclude your members to relax a bit in their "free game time" and get an ardenaline rush by taking a tiny weeny more risks. And I say tiny weeny because it's not like the risk is big when you have scouts in all adjacent systems and you realize that one of us is definitely alone since we can't really hide from local do we ?
All corps involved in the current events, no matter their side, are here to fulfill a mission and will probably do it to the best of their capabilities. But IMHO, it would be sad if at the end all this begins to get the taste of a part-time job.
With respect ;)
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