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 Mars Mar    |
Posted - 2003.10.28 08:08:00 -
[1] Okey, I got killed by Posix the other day. That's never fun, but it's in the game and I accept it. I don't have anything against pirates in general but I do have alot against their methods. I read in the rules that if someone used an exploit you should report it to ccp. Okey, so when I got killed yesterday it was because posix camped in the in-jump position. I jumped into the system and there he was. THe exploit is that I was locked, jammed, and my shields down to under half BEFORE I've loaded the screen. This must be hold as an exploit. you don't even got a slight chance of defending or even react. Why haven't CCP done anything about the fact that the ships appears in space long before you get it on your screen. Load times and laggs shouldn't be used in that way. And ofcourse to make the lagg worse he had deployed alot of mines for the bandwith and the computer to load. Now, I want a ccp guy answer this thread too.  |
 Mars Mar Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.28 08:08:00 -
[2] Okey, I got killed by Posix the other day. That's never fun, but it's in the game and I accept it. I don't have anything against pirates in general but I do have alot against their methods. I read in the rules that if someone used an exploit you should report it to ccp. Okey, so when I got killed yesterday it was because posix camped in the in-jump position. I jumped into the system and there he was. THe exploit is that I was locked, jammed, and my shields down to under half BEFORE I've loaded the screen. This must be hold as an exploit. you don't even got a slight chance of defending or even react. Why haven't CCP done anything about the fact that the ships appears in space long before you get it on your screen. Load times and laggs shouldn't be used in that way. And ofcourse to make the lagg worse he had deployed alot of mines for the bandwith and the computer to load. Now, I want a ccp guy answer this thread too. |
 Tenacha Khan |
Posted - 2003.10.28 08:14:00 -
[3] Edited by: Tenacha Khan on 28/10/2003 08:14:50 File a bloody petition , cause YOU are wasting "bandwith" here....which is making my conection lag slightly =P |
 Tenacha Khan Omniscient Order |
Posted - 2003.10.28 08:14:00 -
[4] Edited by: Tenacha Khan on 28/10/2003 08:14:50 File a bloody petition , cause YOU are wasting "bandwith" here....which is making my conection lag slightly =P |
 Kasha |
Posted - 2003.10.28 08:32:00 -
[5] Im too tired to write anything so instead click on link. Linkage |
 Kasha Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.10.28 08:32:00 -
[6] Im too tired to write anything so instead click on link. Linkage |
 Zarquon Beeblebrox |
Posted - 2003.10.28 08:44:00 -
[7] Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 28/10/2003 08:45:26
I understand that you dont like this. But its hardly a exploit. I was to killed by posix in Aurohunen (or was is aunene, cant remember). I was not killed before my screen loaded. I did get the threat warning but i was already webed and warp scramblet. He had one mine put out (and if it was more there could not have been many). He got to me in a bad time, i was moving all my npc loot from 0.3 space to korama. I had fitted with cargo expanders to my probe. yes i lost more isk then i have. Do i complain NO. Its the game. I know so verry well that this system is a deth trap most of the time. I did check the map and did se ships destroyed last 24h that was not there few houers before. I even knew posix was there becouse i almost was killed in the other jump in point few minutes before on the way to the northen most system in lonetrek. Stop whining. And play the game. -- Lady Beeblebrox Teddybears movies |
 Zarquon Beeblebrox Liberate Vos Ex Inferis |
Posted - 2003.10.28 08:44:00 -
[8] Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 28/10/2003 08:45:26
I understand that you dont like this. But its hardly a exploit. I was to killed by posix in Aurohunen (or was is aunene, cant remember). I was not killed before my screen loaded. I did get the threat warning but i was already webed and warp scramblet. He had one mine put out (and if it was more there could not have been many). He got to me in a bad time, i was moving all my npc loot from 0.3 space to korama. I had fitted with cargo expanders to my probe. yes i lost more isk then i have. Do i complain NO. Its the game. I know so verry well that this system is a deth trap most of the time. I did check the map and did se ships destroyed last 24h that was not there few houers before. I even knew posix was there becouse i almost was killed in the other jump in point few minutes before on the way to the northen most system in lonetrek. Stop whining. And play the game. -- Lady Beeblebrox |
SwitchBl4d3 |
Posted - 2003.10.28 09:09:00 -
[9] indeed no exploit, annoying though, maybe CCP should implement a locked active target for drones thing (no cargo cans not included nubs). but then again they will just lay mine (scratches head if CCP didnt want lag issues why they in the game). Anyway because of the archetecture of the way the cluster works i cant really see a solution for this anytime in the near future unless random spawn points all over a solarsystem are brought in. The other option of course is around a 30-40 second jump in immunity, Of course this well never happen either because low Sec'ers can easyily autopilot through all the 1.0's "Teh lord of Nonni" |
 SwitchBl4d3 Infinitus Odium |
Posted - 2003.10.28 09:09:00 -
[10] indeed no exploit, annoying though, maybe CCP should implement a locked active target for drones thing (no cargo cans not included nubs). but then again they will just lay mine (scratches head if CCP didnt want lag issues why they in the game). Anyway because of the archetecture of the way the cluster works i cant really see a solution for this anytime in the near future unless random spawn points all over a solarsystem are brought in. The other option of course is around a 30-40 second jump in immunity, Of course this well never happen either because low Sec'ers can easyily autopilot through all the 1.0's
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 Soul Reaver |
Posted - 2003.10.28 09:24:00 -
[11] I dont think we need a solution :) its hard enough engaging in combat as it is!!! Get a better machine and or connection :) Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants Currently chasing Lianhaun |
 Soul Reaver Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.28 09:24:00 -
[12] I dont think we need a solution :) its hard enough engaging in combat as it is!!! Get a better machine and or connection :) Advanced Run Away / Rank 5 / SP: 507439 of 1280000 Currently training to: level 5 Time left: 12 days, 22 hours, 3 minutes, 24 seconds |
 Bexxly |
Posted - 2003.10.28 09:53:00 -
[13] BORING!!!!! change the ******* record ffs  |
 Bexxly Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2003.10.28 09:53:00 -
[14] BORING!!!!! change the ******* record ffs |
darth solo |
Posted - 2003.10.28 09:59:00 -
[15] Guess what my pirate ladies  .You have opened a can of worms. cant wait for anti rats to kill you at the jump ins, give u a bit of what you put out. where did i put that mine BP.  |
 darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2003.10.28 09:59:00 -
[16] Guess what my pirate ladies .You have opened a can of worms. cant wait for anti rats to kill you at the jump ins, give u a bit of what you put out. where did i put that mine BP. RECRUITING... visit www.celesapoc.com ingame channel "celespublic" for recruitment or chat |
Blacklight |
Posted - 2003.10.28 10:06:00 -
[17] Ok, ok I know this has been debated backwards and forwards and every which way since it came to everyone's attention but here's another variant of one viewpoint on this issue... It's not an exploit, it is however ****e game design. No need to say more than that... oh and of course ... CCP 4r3 no0bz0rs kll th3ir asses now. going got s vhrsp PT offivrd@ ;p; |
 Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.28 10:06:00 -
[18] Ok, ok I know this has been debated backwards and forwards and every which way since it came to everyone's attention but here's another variant of one viewpoint on this issue... It's not an exploit, it is however ****e game design. No need to say more than that... oh and of course ... CCP 4r3 no0bz0rs kll th3ir asses now. going got s vhrsp PT offivrd@ ;p; |
Viceroy |
Posted - 2003.10.28 10:20:00 -
[19] Its not an exploit. dont accuse without knowing the facts. petition any GM, he will tell you its not an exploit. it might not be entirely fair, but its the only way atm. have a nice day. and darth solo, you guys were camping the jumpin of korama-auro yesterday, too bad you decided to leave when we arrived  |
 Viceroy Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.28 10:20:00 -
[20] Its not an exploit. dont accuse without knowing the facts. petition any GM, he will tell you its not an exploit. it might not be entirely fair, but its the only way atm. have a nice day. and darth solo, you guys were camping the jumpin of korama-auro yesterday, too bad you decided to leave when we arrived |
 darth solo |
Posted - 2003.10.28 11:05:00 -
[21]
It was 1am ppl had to leave.We camped that jumpin for about 30mins, and were there at the start, when u had 6 rats in that system, and when we left, still 6 rats . We dont like staying in the 1 system for too long for obvious reasons. Mastema convoing me and calling me a coward , only made himself look foolish, as we have always taken the fight to you guys, and hoped that we had mutual respect.I have nothing to gain by hunting rats every night, i lose much money by doing so, but its the path iv chosen in EVE, no going back now. |
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2003.10.28 11:05:00 -
[22]
It was 1am ppl had to leave.We camped that jumpin for about 30mins, and were there at the start, when u had 6 rats in that system, and when we left, still 6 rats . We dont like staying in the 1 system for too long for obvious reasons. Mastema convoing me and calling me a coward , only made himself look foolish, as we have always taken the fight to you guys, and hoped that we had mutual respect.I have nothing to gain by hunting rats every night, i lose much money by doing so, but its the path iv chosen in EVE, no going back now. RECRUITING... visit www.celesapoc.com ingame channel "celespublic" for recruitment or chat |
Lilan Kahn |
Posted - 2003.10.28 11:34:00 -
[23] camping jump ins, is only a "exploit" when piartes do it when anti-pirates dose its not, what a wounder full world ;)
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 Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem |
Posted - 2003.10.28 11:34:00 -
[24] camping jump ins, is only a "exploit" when piartes do it when anti-pirates dose its not, what a wounder full world ;)
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 SKiNNiEH |
Posted - 2003.10.28 11:57:00 -
[25] The topics discussed on this forum are always about the same things... This is one of 'em. I do have one thing to say about the subject.. Just because CCP doesnt think its an exploit, the general playerbase thinks it is. Fix it, damnit :) ------- |
 SKiNNiEH |
Posted - 2003.10.28 11:57:00 -
[26] The topics discussed on this forum are always about the same things... This is one of 'em. I do have one thing to say about the subject.. Just because CCP doesnt think its an exploit, the general playerbase thinks it is. Fix it, damnit :) |
 darth solo |
Posted - 2003.10.28 12:25:00 -
[27]
its called playing u at your own game my little lady. I would never have used this as a tactic, but we have been forced into it. And the 300 mines are there for destructive purpose only  , cough cough. |
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2003.10.28 12:25:00 -
[28]
its called playing u at your own game my little lady. I would never have used this as a tactic, but we have been forced into it. And the 300 mines are there for destructive purpose only , cough cough.RECRUITING... visit www.celesapoc.com ingame channel "celespublic" for recruitment or chat |
Indigo Seqi |
Posted - 2003.10.28 12:47:00 -
[29] Most of us were afk in that system just because we didn't have anything planned and people had other stuff to do. You came 2 hours too late to do anything about the camp we had earlier that night. It's just funny when pirate hunters come and talk smack, but run like pussies when the pirates finally notice you and go do something about your presence. Nothing turns a pirate hunter on more than one pirate being not-afk in a system while the hunters are blocking the exits. The amounts of smacktalk displayed in those situations is usually also the funniest. |
 Indigo Seqi Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2003.10.28 12:47:00 -
[30] Most of us were afk in that system just because we didn't have anything planned and people had other stuff to do. You came 2 hours too late to do anything about the camp we had earlier that night. It's just funny when pirate hunters come and talk smack, but run like pussies when the pirates finally notice you and go do something about your presence. Nothing turns a pirate hunter on more than one pirate being not-afk in a system while the hunters are blocking the exits. The amounts of smacktalk displayed in those situations is usually also the funniest. |
Shadowthrone |
Posted - 2003.10.28 13:37:00 -
[31] Surpise is usually the best weapon in these situations indigo. There is no point in lingering so long in a system, so that pirates build up a substantial and superior force. This tends to be a dangerous situation for pirate hunters as some of our guys will get bored waiting for you to attack and their attention will lapse. I know that many a wanna be pirate hunter has been caught out by SI this way. Only the noob hunters talk smac in local.We dont talk in local as it is distracting. Celes Kill Board "Show them no mercy, for you will receive none" |
 Shadowthrone Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2003.10.28 13:37:00 -
[32] Surpise is usually the best weapon in these situations indigo. There is no point in lingering so long in a system, so that pirates build up a substantial and superior force. This tends to be a dangerous situation for pirate hunters as some of our guys will get bored waiting for you to attack and their attention will lapse. I know that many a wanna be pirate hunter has been caught out by SI this way. Only the noob hunters talk smac in local.We dont talk in local as it is distracting. "Show them no mercy, for you will receive none" |
 darth solo |
Posted - 2003.10.28 13:55:00 -
[33]
Are u for real, our group never say a word in local, we always try and keep out of local, and we didnt run, we went to bed after 4 hours of play.we respect pirates, but u do a HELL of alot of lying, dont u. I just need to turn up in a rat system, and i get abuse. like hey darth i still have your corpse, u are a *****, come and fight us u carebear coward. LOL. i dont even look at local chat now, i just rely on our group spotting rats. . |
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2003.10.28 13:55:00 -
[34]
Are u for real, our group never say a word in local, we always try and keep out of local, and we didnt run, we went to bed after 4 hours of play.we respect pirates, but u do a HELL of alot of lying, dont u. I just need to turn up in a rat system, and i get abuse. like hey darth i still have your corpse, u are a *****, come and fight us u carebear coward. LOL. i dont even look at local chat now, i just rely on our group spotting rats. .RECRUITING... visit www.celesapoc.com ingame channel "celespublic" for recruitment or chat |
darth solo |
Posted - 2003.10.28 13:57:00 -
[35] Errrr, sorry Mars for hijacking your post. Hope u get your revenge my friend. |
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2003.10.28 13:57:00 -
[36] Errrr, sorry Mars for hijacking your post. Hope u get your revenge my friend. RECRUITING... visit www.celesapoc.com ingame channel "celespublic" for recruitment or chat |
Bobby Wilson |
Posted - 2003.10.28 14:23:00 -
[37] The title is irritating because: 1. This is not a "known" exploit. In fact CCP in their wisedom has many times said this is cool. So experienced players are not expecting this thread. 2. This tactic does suck, however, and if you title was more like "when is CCP going to fix the 'known' lag issue" then you'd be more on topic and it *might* be yet another thread reminding CCP of the core problem. Camping jump-in points isn't the problem. The problem is that you are announced in the new star system before your client loads fully, and sometimes the lag time is more than long enough for the immunity timer to expire, the camper to lock you and for offensive action towards you in whatever form to be well along before you even know what is going on. Everyone who wants to win ATM camps jump-in points, usually with mines, drones, whatever isn't currently considered an exploit. Valid tactic or exploit is ATM a matter of CCP opinion from on high, rather than common sense. Meanwhile, "noble" PvPers who refuse to use the tactic will get smoked in any serious war. The fix was "coming soon (tm)" ages ago in a CSM, but has been dropped since. Random jump-in points, gate to gate jumping or whatever won't address this key problem of server-side lag and client announcement. BW
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 Bobby Wilson Gallente |
Posted - 2003.10.28 14:23:00 -
[38] The title is irritating because: 1. This is not a "known" exploit. In fact CCP in their wisedom has many times said this is cool. So experienced players are not expecting this thread. 2. This tactic does suck, however, and if you title was more like "when is CCP going to fix the 'known' lag issue" then you'd be more on topic and it *might* be yet another thread reminding CCP of the core problem. Camping jump-in points isn't the problem. The problem is that you are announced in the new star system before your client loads fully, and sometimes the lag time is more than long enough for the immunity timer to expire, the camper to lock you and for offensive action towards you in whatever form to be well along before you even know what is going on. Everyone who wants to win ATM camps jump-in points, usually with mines, drones, whatever isn't currently considered an exploit. Valid tactic or exploit is ATM a matter of CCP opinion from on high, rather than common sense. Meanwhile, "noble" PvPers who refuse to use the tactic will get smoked in any serious war. The fix was "coming soon (tm)" ages ago in a CSM, but has been dropped since. Random jump-in points, gate to gate jumping or whatever won't address this key problem of server-side lag and client announcement. BW |
Dell |
Posted - 2003.10.28 14:39:00 -
[39] Edited by: Dell on 28/10/2003 14:41:23 Its not a exploit but it does suck, However rather then Posting in the forum, go pirate Hunting and wait by the jump in points and give them a big fat taste of there own cowardly Medicine. |
 Dell Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.28 14:39:00 -
[40] Edited by: Dell on 28/10/2003 14:41:23 Its not a exploit but it does suck, However rather then Posting in the forum, go pirate Hunting and wait by the jump in points and give them a big fat taste of there own cowardly Medicine. |
Zell |
Posted - 2003.10.28 15:03:00 -
[41]
Then come back here to the boards and eagerly await the posts from pirates howling at ccp's patch for random jump ins that are ruining PVP-pirating, how it sucks to be a pirate anymore, and the countless threads of "I can't gank anymore, im quiting" posts... "A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.." |
 Zell Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.10.28 15:03:00 -
[42]
Then come back here to the boards and eagerly await the posts from pirates howling at ccp's patch for random jump ins that are ruining PVP-pirating, how it sucks to be a pirate anymore, and the countless threads of "I can't gank anymore, im quiting" posts... A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.. |
Darth Vodka |
Posted - 2003.10.28 22:01:00 -
[43] end-yourself's to the idiots that keep saying get a better computer or connection. good fast machine, a decent graphics card with plenty of memory on it, and broadband connection, easily meeting the min requirements to play Eve Online the machine or the connection is not the damn problem do you think that fecking money grows on tree's !! or maybe your mommy / daddy buys all your computer equipment for you People that make stupid comments like that are troll baiting and they know it. End-Yourselves |
 Darth Vodka |
Posted - 2003.10.28 22:01:00 -
[44] end-yourself's to the idiots that keep saying get a better computer or connection. good fast machine, a decent graphics card with plenty of memory on it, and broadband connection, easily meeting the min requirements to play Eve Online the machine or the connection is not the damn problem do you think that fecking money grows on tree's !! or maybe your mommy / daddy buys all your computer equipment for you People that make stupid comments like that are troll baiting and they know it. End-Yourselves |
Dell |
Posted - 2003.10.28 22:34:00 -
[45] Edited by: Dell on 28/10/2003 22:35:02 Or you could get a job, build your own computer and stop trying to run Eve on that 5 year old calculator you must use! |
Dell Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2003.10.28 22:34:00 -
[46] Edited by: Dell on 28/10/2003 22:35:02 Or you could get a job, build your own computer and stop trying to run Eve on that 5 year old calculator you must use! |
Plim |
Posted - 2003.10.28 23:12:00 -
[47] LOL Come on guys of course camping and lagging a jump in point is not an exploit don't be stupid. I mean just because people get so badly lagged that they cant even see whats going on, and they cant even fight back, and they can even be killed before the screen loads at all, and just because it gives players an immediate advantage other the ones being lagged, that dosent sound anything like an exploit at all does it? You'd OBVIOUSLY have to be such a complete an utter moron to think that. Obviously. I mean its so obvious. Morons. Use some logic. I mean its in the game mechanics, so why not explot it... er did I say exploit, doh... no I mean use it.. yeah. Desclamer: For the extreme dim witted, or indeed simple minded reading this post, I am being sarcastic. ----------------- |
 Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2003.10.28 23:12:00 -
[48] LOL Come on guys of course camping and lagging a jump in point is not an exploit don't be stupid. I mean just because people get so badly lagged that they cant even see whats going on, and they cant even fight back, and they can even be killed before the screen loads at all, and just because it gives players an immediate advantage other the ones being lagged, that dosent sound anything like an exploit at all does it? You'd OBVIOUSLY have to be such a complete an utter moron to think that. Obviously. I mean its so obvious. Morons. Use some logic. I mean its in the game mechanics, so why not explot it... er did I say exploit, doh... no I mean use it.. yeah. Desclamer: For the extreme dim witted, or indeed simple minded reading this post, I am being sarcastic. Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus." |
Jolo |
Posted - 2003.10.29 01:22:00 -
[49] just get the book mark and a bunch of battleships and do it back to them. and you're a ding-dong for not checking your map for kills. My corp mate got podded in the same manner, but we waited for him to log on and we wapred in with kestrals and fired off like 10 cruise missles... just get revenge, don't call it an exploit. --------------------------------------- |
 Jolo Gallente |
Posted - 2003.10.29 01:22:00 -
[50] just get the book mark and a bunch of battleships and do it back to them. and you're a ding-dong for not checking your map for kills. My corp mate got podded in the same manner, but we waited for him to log on and we wapred in with kestrals and fired off like 10 cruise missles... just get revenge, don't call it an exploit. |
Zarthan |
Posted - 2003.10.29 02:25:00 -
[51] I've never been killed at a jump in because I.. A) Have a cable connection cuz online gamming without one is rather pointless. B) have a good computer and it may be three years old but for 3-4 hundred it's amazing how much u can improve an older system. here is something for the not so smart people. If your computer sucks at running the game try these things. 1)get 512-1meg of ram (only will cost u maybe 300) 2) spend 100 dollar on new vid card. Also in regards to the topic, there is no other way to engage in combat in empire space anymore so deal with it. If everyone hadn't *****ed for sentry guns at every gate then maybe oh just maybe right now u people wouldnt have this problem. As they say thou u reap what u....well it's played out but u get what i mean. Have a nice day! _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website |
 Zarthan Sturmgrenadier Inc |
Posted - 2003.10.29 02:25:00 -
[52] I've never been killed at a jump in because I.. A) Have a cable connection cuz online gamming without one is rather pointless. B) have a good computer and it may be three years old but for 3-4 hundred it's amazing how much u can improve an older system. here is something for the not so smart people. If your computer sucks at running the game try these things. 1)get 512-1meg of ram (only will cost u maybe 300) 2) spend 100 dollar on new vid card. Also in regards to the topic, there is no other way to engage in combat in empire space anymore so deal with it. If everyone hadn't *****ed for sentry guns at every gate then maybe oh just maybe right now u people wouldnt have this problem. As they say thou u reap what u....well it's played out but u get what i mean. Have a nice day! _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website |
Tealnyue |
Posted - 2003.10.29 02:31:00 -
[53] *get's off the fence* Don't blame the Bounty hunters or the Pirates for using this tatic. Focus your anger at the root of the cause. This GAME was and is marketed as both a player vs player and a player vs enviroment game. It was supposed to allow both styles of play to both types of players. But due to flaw/glitches that we have to play with or we have to use. One side or the other is getting hurt. The half *** fixes that they are implenting are hurting us (secure cans, let's give it to one side. But not allow the other side away to counter it). The Lack of content for the PvE players is hurting both sides. Concepts that are only half finish are hurting us. Promises that are not kept or are being put on eternal hold are hurting us. All this leads to an unrully player base. With an unrully player base, no or very few new players will be drawn in. I dread the gate to gate jumping that is being talked about with out sometype of work being done to the fix what is causing the lag. Hell escaping combat is way to easy unless the true aggressor does something to the extreme to force combat. Hell I delt with 20 sec lag due due to 10 cruisers and 5 battleships all warping into an area to face several targets. 20 secs where the campers KNEW were coming, KNEW we were there, and had a chance to flee. I had targets able to warp in and out of a gate 5 times, and each time I couldn't make a lock, (I have a lock time of 2.73 secs) being forced each time to curse at the 10 sec rule. Watching the target finaly able to use that same 10 secs to make the jump. Jumping through a gate with 4 cruisers and 4 battleships against 3 cruisers with drones. I was locked down before I could do ANYTHING! (I don't have a poor system, I am on a broadband conection so those arguements are out the window?) How are you supposed to have combat? Pray that each time I see another player i have to pray that the other player is AFK? I firmly believe that each side should have an EQUAL chance to engage in combat as they have in escaping combat. These tatics of causing the other side to lag will not go away on thier own. CCP needs to step up to the plate, admit thier is a problem and fix that problem. THE BETTER NOT PROMISE A FIX SOON. Thier SOON is 6 months to a year later, and in that time alot of players are finally going to give up, and say enough is enough. |
 Tealnyue The Scope |
Posted - 2003.10.29 02:31:00 -
[54] *get's off the fence* Don't blame the Bounty hunters or the Pirates for using this tatic. Focus your anger at the root of the cause. This GAME was and is marketed as both a player vs player and a player vs enviroment game. It was supposed to allow both styles of play to both types of players. But due to flaw/glitches that we have to play with or we have to use. One side or the other is getting hurt. The half *** fixes that they are implenting are hurting us (secure cans, let's give it to one side. But not allow the other side away to counter it). The Lack of content for the PvE players is hurting both sides. Concepts that are only half finish are hurting us. Promises that are not kept or are being put on eternal hold are hurting us. All this leads to an unrully player base. With an unrully player base, no or very few new players will be drawn in. I dread the gate to gate jumping that is being talked about with out sometype of work being done to the fix what is causing the lag. Hell escaping combat is way to easy unless the true aggressor does something to the extreme to force combat. Hell I delt with 20 sec lag due due to 10 cruisers and 5 battleships all warping into an area to face several targets. 20 secs where the campers KNEW were coming, KNEW we were there, and had a chance to flee. I had targets able to warp in and out of a gate 5 times, and each time I couldn't make a lock, (I have a lock time of 2.73 secs) being forced each time to curse at the 10 sec rule. Watching the target finaly able to use that same 10 secs to make the jump. Jumping through a gate with 4 cruisers and 4 battleships against 3 cruisers with drones. I was locked down before I could do ANYTHING! (I don't have a poor system, I am on a broadband conection so those arguements are out the window?) How are you supposed to have combat? Pray that each time I see another player i have to pray that the other player is AFK? I firmly believe that each side should have an EQUAL chance to engage in combat as they have in escaping combat. These tatics of causing the other side to lag will not go away on thier own. CCP needs to step up to the plate, admit thier is a problem and fix that problem. THE BETTER NOT PROMISE A FIX SOON. Thier SOON is 6 months to a year later, and in that time alot of players are finally going to give up, and say enough is enough. |
Zell |
Posted - 2003.10.29 04:42:00 -
[55] Edited by: Zell on 29/10/2003 04:43:33
Don't blame the killer that uses a gun, focus your anger on the gun manufacturer, the root of the cause... Sounds about right. "A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.." |
Zell Caldari Caldari Provisions |
Posted - 2003.10.29 04:42:00 -
[56] Edited by: Zell on 29/10/2003 04:43:33
Don't blame the killer that uses a gun, focus your anger on the gun manufacturer, the root of the cause... Sounds about right. A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.. |
 Zarquon Beeblebrox |
Posted - 2003.10.29 09:09:00 -
[57] Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 29/10/2003 09:10:16 The bigest games online are PVP games. EVE should be a PVP only game. And better yet, TVT (team vs team) or perhaps GvB (good vs bad) -- Lady Beeblebrox Teddybears movies |
Zarquon Beeblebrox Liberate Vos Ex Inferis |
Posted - 2003.10.29 09:09:00 -
[58] Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 29/10/2003 09:10:16 The bigest games online are PVP games. EVE should be a PVP only game. And better yet, TVT (team vs team) or perhaps GvB (good vs bad) -- Lady Beeblebrox |
darth solo |
Posted - 2003.10.29 10:00:00 -
[59] I have a superd PC which i spend loads of money on. I also have a 1mb cable connection. It doesnt seem to matter . To tell players to go out and buy uber machines isnt the answer, and i wouldnt recommend players going into debt in the hope that this may fix all the problems, because it wont im sorry to say, it might improve them though. |
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2003.10.29 10:00:00 -
[60] I have a superd PC which i spend loads of money on. I also have a 1mb cable connection. It doesnt seem to matter . To tell players to go out and buy uber machines isnt the answer, and i wouldnt recommend players going into debt in the hope that this may fix all the problems, because it wont im sorry to say, it might improve them though. RECRUITING... visit www.celesapoc.com ingame channel "celespublic" for recruitment or chat |
Mars Mar |
Posted - 2003.10.29 11:39:00 -
[61] Okey, soo I didn't know that ccp had decleard this as non-exploit problem. TO ME it still seems like an exploit. I also have a broadband connection (1mbit) and a fairly good computer, 1,5 years old. I'm no "newbie" in computer things so I can say that I don't have a computer that _should_ lagg. The problem is still as stated some posts above that the ships appear in space before it does at you own screen. I don't know how some of you cannot have this problem. I absolutely don't have anything against pirates or bounty hunters. I shouldn't even have opened my mouth if they had killed me when I was about to jump out or meet in space. BUT when I jump in and don't even have any chance of acting before I'm "half-dead" I think it sucks. Yes, I know it's the game and I accept it now, BUT again I hold it as an exploit. I've read many pirates saying it ain't easy to be a priate, and I believe you, but using technical "exploits" is just wrong. Foolink people to make misstakes and stuff like that is okey but still using technical.... nooo. Okey, so why don't I jump back and kill them myself? mmmm.. maybe because I can't! I don't have that ships and equipment needed todo that. There isn't many corps in the game that can go after pirates, unfortunately. I also agree that the problem is in the game structure and I don't have an own solution to that. Pirates are not know to live with honour, hell they are the opposite of it, but anyway I want to believe that some priates play "fair". Well, I'm not usually a whiner and I shall stop whining about this problem now. I leave it to ccp to fix and in the future I just have to start praying when jumping out and in. |
Mars Mar Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.29 11:39:00 -
[62] Okey, soo I didn't know that ccp had decleard this as non-exploit problem. TO ME it still seems like an exploit. I also have a broadband connection (1mbit) and a fairly good computer, 1,5 years old. I'm no "newbie" in computer things so I can say that I don't have a computer that _should_ lagg. The problem is still as stated some posts above that the ships appear in space before it does at you own screen. I don't know how some of you cannot have this problem. I absolutely don't have anything against pirates or bounty hunters. I shouldn't even have opened my mouth if they had killed me when I was about to jump out or meet in space. BUT when I jump in and don't even have any chance of acting before I'm "half-dead" I think it sucks. Yes, I know it's the game and I accept it now, BUT again I hold it as an exploit. I've read many pirates saying it ain't easy to be a priate, and I believe you, but using technical "exploits" is just wrong. Foolink people to make misstakes and stuff like that is okey but still using technical.... nooo. Okey, so why don't I jump back and kill them myself? mmmm.. maybe because I can't! I don't have that ships and equipment needed todo that. There isn't many corps in the game that can go after pirates, unfortunately. I also agree that the problem is in the game structure and I don't have an own solution to that. Pirates are not know to live with honour, hell they are the opposite of it, but anyway I want to believe that some priates play "fair". Well, I'm not usually a whiner and I shall stop whining about this problem now. I leave it to ccp to fix and in the future I just have to start praying when jumping out and in. |
Kitsune |
Posted - 2003.10.29 11:44:00 -
[63]
        A picture that is truly worth a thousand words |
 Kitsune Caldari |
Posted - 2003.10.29 11:44:00 -
[64]
A picture that is truly worth a thousand words ~~~~The rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated.~~~~~ |
Kitsune |
Posted - 2003.10.29 11:46:00 -
[65] and i still don't give a damn what ccp says, lag cheat is a lag cheat. If I ever have the misfortune of fallin' to it, I'll file the petition after I increase my corpse collection some |
Kitsune Caldari |
Posted - 2003.10.29 11:46:00 -
[66] and i still don't give a damn what ccp says, lag cheat is a lag cheat. If I ever have the misfortune of fallin' to it, I'll file the petition after I increase my corpse collection some ~~~~The rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated.~~~~~ |
Xenovetica |
Posted - 2003.10.29 14:37:00 -
[67] If there were a way people could force others to battle without camping jump-in's, gates, or stations, they'd do it. It really isn't the player's fault. |
 Xenovetica Minmatar Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.29 14:37:00 -
[68] If there were a way people could force others to battle without camping jump-in's, gates, or stations, they'd do it. It really isn't the player's fault. |
 Beldaws |
Posted - 2003.10.29 14:56:00 -
[69] Edited by: Beldaws on 29/10/2003 15:07:26 Edited by: Beldaws on 29/10/2003 15:06:56 The fact that your ship appears in space on the server before it does on your PC is a game flaw. To use this flaw to kill people is an exploit pure and simple, but one that we will have to live with for a while I'm afraid. There are plenty of tools in the game to help you identify where people are exploiting this game flaw. It's fairly simple to avoid those areas. What isn't so simple is to get CCP to own up to the game flaw and fix the problem. Every online game that I have ever played has had this problem and to this day they still do so I assume that it's a difficult problem to resolve. Until then, I accept that it's going to be exploited by both Pirates and Pirate Hunters. I don't use autopilot when going through potentially dangerous areas, I listen to the local chatter, and I use my map. If I get caught, then I either wasn't paying attention or was unlucky enough to be one of the first players to jump after the pirates arrived. Keep your ship insured, your clone up to date, and take your lumps!! |
 Beldaws Gallente Me and My Alts |
Posted - 2003.10.29 14:56:00 -
[70] Edited by: Beldaws on 29/10/2003 15:07:26 Edited by: Beldaws on 29/10/2003 15:06:56 The fact that your ship appears in space on the server before it does on your PC is a game flaw. To use this flaw to kill people is an exploit pure and simple, but one that we will have to live with for a while I'm afraid. There are plenty of tools in the game to help you identify where people are exploiting this game flaw. It's fairly simple to avoid those areas. What isn't so simple is to get CCP to own up to the game flaw and fix the problem. Every online game that I have ever played has had this problem and to this day they still do so I assume that it's a difficult problem to resolve. Until then, I accept that it's going to be exploited by both Pirates and Pirate Hunters. I don't use autopilot when going through potentially dangerous areas, I listen to the local chatter, and I use my map. If I get caught, then I either wasn't paying attention or was unlucky enough to be one of the first players to jump after the pirates arrived. Keep your ship insured, your clone up to date, and take your lumps!! |
Plim |
Posted - 2003.10.29 17:51:00 -
[71] I think anyone with an ounce of sense can see that it is an exploit, as it is EXPLOITING a technical flaw in the game. Lagging someone so bad at a jump-in that thier screen dosent load is obviously not an intended game mechanic. Also trying to take the blame away from the pirates who do this by saying its CCP's fault dosen't entirely make sense. YES CCP shouldn't have made it possible to allow lag to give people an advantage in the first place. But those that are doing this are knowingly making the choice to exploit the fact that people can jump in whislt still loading, thereby incapacitating them. And please dont give me this, "well if you don't like it do it to the pirates, and dont call it an exploit" crap, because I have been attemting to do this to pirates for the past two days now (for the irony alone  ).Ok now ive got that out of the way, I would also like to say that I actually agree with the pirates who are saying that the introduction of sentry guns EVERWHERE in 0.5 - 1.0 space is over the top and is hurting pirating, and that pirating on a whole has been done a diservice. The reason why I am so concerned about these incidents of jump in point lagging, is because I want a fair and balanced game for everyone and that INCLUDES pirates. Before CCP finally introduced sentry guns at every single damn star-gate it was ten times better than what we have now. Pirates had the ability to pirate in some fairly high traffic areas, and people also had the chance to avoid them if they had the wits (or the will) to do so. So yes something needs to be done by CCP not only about the issue of jump-in lagging, but about the unfortunate situation pirating has been put in. Pirates should have a fair and balanced way of going about thier chosen career just as everyone else should. And it should'nt involve having to gank people at jump in points to do this. And I think we can all agree on that. I'm no "carebear", I think pirates are great . Hunting them (win or lose, its all fun) is one of the main reasons why I play the game, its a laugh. And I can understand why the pirates, pirate, its part of the game, and I suspect a fun one . I'd just rather die a thousand times to pirates who are able to play the game without being able lag me to death, than once to ones that can.Anyway hopefully CCP will balance the issue (eventually), and this will all be forgoten about. Then hopefully (LOL), we will all live in magical eve nirvarna where pirates can joyfully kill people all day long to rage against the machine, and "carebears" can AFK mine scordite all day long in 1.0 space (these are the people that I really dont inderstand) ,to the teletubies theme tune. ----------------- |
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2003.10.29 17:51:00 -
[72] I think anyone with an ounce of sense can see that it is an exploit, as it is EXPLOITING a technical flaw in the game. Lagging someone so bad at a jump-in that thier screen dosent load is obviously not an intended game mechanic. Also trying to take the blame away from the pirates who do this by saying its CCP's fault dosen't entirely make sense. YES CCP shouldn't have made it possible to allow lag to give people an advantage in the first place. But those that are doing this are knowingly making the choice to exploit the fact that people can jump in whislt still loading, thereby incapacitating them. And please dont give me this, "well if you don't like it do it to the pirates, and dont call it an exploit" crap, because I have been attemting to do this to pirates for the past two days now (for the irony alone ).Ok now ive got that out of the way, I would also like to say that I actually agree with the pirates who are saying that the introduction of sentry guns EVERWHERE in 0.5 - 1.0 space is over the top and is hurting pirating, and that pirating on a whole has been done a diservice. The reason why I am so concerned about these incidents of jump in point lagging, is because I want a fair and balanced game for everyone and that INCLUDES pirates. Before CCP finally introduced sentry guns at every single damn star-gate it was ten times better than what we have now. Pirates had the ability to pirate in some fairly high traffic areas, and people also had the chance to avoid them if they had the wits (or the will) to do so. So yes something needs to be done by CCP not only about the issue of jump-in lagging, but about the unfortunate situation pirating has been put in. Pirates should have a fair and balanced way of going about thier chosen career just as everyone else should. And it should'nt involve having to gank people at jump in points to do this. And I think we can all agree on that. I'm no "carebear", I think pirates are great . Hunting them (win or lose, its all fun) is one of the main reasons why I play the game, its a laugh. And I can understand why the pirates, pirate, its part of the game, and I suspect a fun one . I'd just rather die a thousand times to pirates who are able to play the game without being able lag me to death, than once to ones that can.Anyway hopefully CCP will balance the issue (eventually), and this will all be forgoten about. Then hopefully (LOL), we will all live in magical eve nirvarna where pirates can joyfully kill people all day long to rage against the machine, and "carebears" can AFK mine scordite all day long in 1.0 space (these are the people that I really dont inderstand) ,to the teletubies theme tune. Rudolf: "I was sworn to absolute secrecy by Santa Claus." |
 Mars Mar |
Posted - 2003.10.29 19:33:00 -
[73] Plim: Amen brother! That was a good post. |
Mars Mar Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2003.10.29 19:33:00 -
[74] Plim: Amen brother! That was a good post. |
Camar |
Posted - 2003.10.30 01:59:00 -
[75] Zarthan: 1. I have a 10mbit connection. 2. 1700mhz, 756mb ram, geeforce 3Ti Still at jumpin I was locked, webbed and jammed before my screen loaded. The thing that saved me that time was that all torps hitting the end of my ship actually put me out of range so my mwd could kick in and thus escape About the rest of this subject not addressed to anyone in particular; Is it fun to shoot at sitting ducks? If so, you must really be mentally retarded. Same goes for ALL that use this tactic. I have nothing against pirates, but call this hunting? Yeah right. They add some spice to the game, as all pvp does, but camping jumpin is NOT pvp, cause there is no player at "the other end" until you find your ship nearly destroyed and totally jammed. |
 Camar Stormriders Fimbulwinter |
Posted - 2003.10.30 01:59:00 -
[76] Zarthan: 1. I have a 10mbit connection. 2. 1700mhz, 756mb ram, geeforce 3Ti Still at jumpin I was locked, webbed and jammed before my screen loaded. The thing that saved me that time was that all torps hitting the end of my ship actually put me out of range so my mwd could kick in and thus escape About the rest of this subject not addressed to anyone in particular; Is it fun to shoot at sitting ducks? If so, you must really be mentally ********. Same goes for ALL that use this tactic. I have nothing against pirates, but call this hunting? Yeah right. They add some spice to the game, as all pvp does, but camping jumpin is NOT pvp, cause there is no player at "the other end" until you find your ship nearly destroyed and totally jammed. |
 eve player 16 |
Posted - 2003.10.30 02:19:00 -
[77] Edited by: Customer Service on 30/10/2003 02:22:51 If you leave autopilot on while traveling thro the system dont you warp as soon as you arrive? Or does this not work My Final question to all these people complaining about pirating is If you see a Pirate ship with a 20 mill bounty afk, crashed, or unable to defend himself would you shoot? let he who is not guilty cast the first stone |
 eve player 16 |
Posted - 2003.10.30 02:19:00 -
[78] Edited by: Customer Service on 30/10/2003 02:22:51 If you leave autopilot on while traveling thro the system dont you warp as soon as you arrive? Or does this not work My Final question to all these people complaining about pirating is If you see a Pirate ship with a 20 mill bounty afk, crashed, or unable to defend himself would you shoot? let he who is not guilty cast the first stone |
Camar |
Posted - 2003.10.30 02:43:00 -
[79] As I stated above, pvp add spice, without pirates in Eve it would be a helluva boring game. This does NOT include camping jumpins, since it would be impossible to label that as pvp. I'm not experianced in pvp, never lost a ship since I started this game. (Unless one to concord ) Would never complain about losing a ship to a pirate (or a band of them) since I do venture out in 0.0 space every now and then.If they manage to hunt me down or supprise me they deserve it, which I doubt they would have much trouble with to begin with. Another way to go if one is looking for pvp (within empirespace) is corpwars. Same goes there, try to supprise your opponent or hunt him/her down. THEN it's pvp... |
Camar Stormriders Fimbulwinter |
Posted - 2003.10.30 02:43:00 -
[80] As I stated above, pvp add spice, without pirates in Eve it would be a helluva boring game. This does NOT include camping jumpins, since it would be impossible to label that as pvp. I'm not experianced in pvp, never lost a ship since I started this game. (Unless one to concord ) Would never complain about losing a ship to a pirate (or a band of them) since I do venture out in 0.0 space every now and then.If they manage to hunt me down or supprise me they deserve it, which I doubt they would have much trouble with to begin with. Another way to go if one is looking for pvp (within empirespace) is corpwars. Same goes there, try to supprise your opponent or hunt him/her down. THEN it's pvp... |
pooti |
Posted - 2003.10.30 07:29:00 -
[81]
I can say, from experience, if you are in CFS and you see pooti crashed and unable to defend himself, you kill him. And you know what? I'll say, "yeah, I CTD," but I'm not gonna whine about it. 'Cause I mean, I would do the same thing in his shoes. I've only had that one guy kill me while crashed, and he turned out to be pretty cool. So. It happens. |
 pooti Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.30 07:29:00 -
[82]
I can say, from experience, if you are in CFS and you see pooti crashed and unable to defend himself, you kill him. And you know what? I'll say, "yeah, I CTD," but I'm not gonna whine about it. 'Cause I mean, I would do the same thing in his shoes. I've only had that one guy kill me while crashed, and he turned out to be pretty cool. So. It happens. |
pooti |
Posted - 2003.10.30 07:33:00 -
[83] Oh, and the real reason for jump-in lag: it's the only way you can lock someone. If they're on autopilot, there is no timeframe to lock and warp jam, and if they're in empire space you can't get them at the gate either. If they have bookmarks, can't even get them at gates in 0.0. Which really rules out killing people as they travel. So, I don't think many people intend to kill someone while they're defenseless; they just wanna be able to get the fight. It sucks that it works that way, but, well, it works that way. And you can't point the finger at anyone in particular. I've seen every PVP group I've fought with or against do it. |
pooti Sebiestor tribe |
Posted - 2003.10.30 07:33:00 -
[84] Oh, and the real reason for jump-in lag: it's the only way you can lock someone. If they're on autopilot, there is no timeframe to lock and warp jam, and if they're in empire space you can't get them at the gate either. If they have bookmarks, can't even get them at gates in 0.0. Which really rules out killing people as they travel. So, I don't think many people intend to kill someone while they're defenseless; they just wanna be able to get the fight. It sucks that it works that way, but, well, it works that way. And you can't point the finger at anyone in particular. I've seen every PVP group I've fought with or against do it. |
 Ricardus |
Posted - 2003.10.30 11:18:00 -
[85] Edited by: Ricardus on 30/10/2003 11:30:33
WRONG! The biggest online game is EverQuest, and with the exception of only a few servers, PvP is not allowed.
Only because EVE is lacking a bit of PvE... cuz lots of ppl don't get bored in non PvP games like EQ. About the Lag Camping Jump In Spots... shady subject... It's obviously wrong due an coding oversight of CCP (just like quitting yer Corp in the middle of a Corp War battle in empire systems), but the sheer numbers of cases are so big that CCP can't handle them all... so they plan to code the client to fix this flau... but as we all know, its hard to change code in a flash when lots of stuff are getting bugged left and right. This kind of stuff should have been detected in Beta and fixed then. |
 Ricardus Amarr Viziam |
Posted - 2003.10.30 11:18:00 -
[86] Edited by: Ricardus on 30/10/2003 11:30:33
WRONG! The biggest online game is EverQuest, and with the exception of only a few servers, PvP is not allowed.
Only because EVE is lacking a bit of PvE... cuz lots of ppl don't get bored in non PvP games like EQ. About the Lag Camping Jump In Spots... shady subject... It's obviously wrong due an coding oversight of CCP (just like quitting yer Corp in the middle of a Corp War battle in empire systems), but the sheer numbers of cases are so big that CCP can't handle them all... so they plan to code the client to fix this flau... but as we all know, its hard to change code in a flash when lots of stuff are getting bugged left and right. This kind of stuff should have been detected in Beta and fixed then. |
Xyber |
Posted - 2003.11.02 03:01:00 -
[87] Well here is how I see the lag issues when aproaching a gate, or entering a system or etc. THink back to the castle era, where poeple would build walls and fortify themselves against raids and etc. And for an ary to take that position they would obviously need more firepower then that isnide the fortified castle. Now apply this to eve, the pirates or whatever have fortified they're position, you lag when entering the system which gives them a distinctive advantage, but they shoudl ahve it, they are the ones fortified. Anyways I am sure not everyone wants to look at it this way, but I do think it is reasonable for it to work this way. --- Sig --- We've all dealt with it. In-game customer support. You would think that by now game companies might start to clue into the fact that a player whose run into a problem is already in a bad mood. So why design a support system around just ****ing them off all the more? -Luke "Biscosity" Burkett |
 Xyber Caldari Pepsi Shipping Co. |
Posted - 2003.11.02 03:01:00 -
[88] Well here is how I see the lag issues when aproaching a gate, or entering a system or etc. THink back to the castle era, where poeple would build walls and fortify themselves against raids and etc. And for an ary to take that position they would obviously need more firepower then that isnide the fortified castle. Now apply this to eve, the pirates or whatever have fortified they're position, you lag when entering the system which gives them a distinctive advantage, but they shoudl ahve it, they are the ones fortified. Anyways I am sure not everyone wants to look at it this way, but I do think it is reasonable for it to work this way. --- Sig --- We've all dealt with it. In-game customer support. You would think that by now game companies might start to clue into the fact that a player whose run into a problem is already in a bad mood. So why design a support system around just ****ing them off all the more? -Luke "Biscosity" Burkett |
Bobby Wilson |
Posted - 2003.11.02 05:50:00 -
[89]
Amen to all of this, but especially to the limited PvE options. The MOBs are dumber than a sack of hammers. Killing MOBs is only hard when they are uuber powerful, but figure out a tactic and they never adjust to it. If they had like 1/10th the intelligence of the old Quake 1 reaper bot, cops, convoys and NPC rats would be very interesting to play against. Plus why is it only cops get reinforcements? Seems dumb to me I can kill the same 5 Guristas for 5 hours. I'd think they either leave or send in a huge force to stomp me flat.... BW
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Bobby Wilson Gallente |
Posted - 2003.11.02 05:50:00 -
[90]
Amen to all of this, but especially to the limited PvE options. The MOBs are dumber than a sack of hammers. Killing MOBs is only hard when they are uuber powerful, but figure out a tactic and they never adjust to it. If they had like 1/10th the intelligence of the old Quake 1 reaper bot, cops, convoys and NPC rats would be very interesting to play against. Plus why is it only cops get reinforcements? Seems dumb to me I can kill the same 5 Guristas for 5 hours. I'd think they either leave or send in a huge force to stomp me flat.... BW |
 geminisceptre Caldari Phantom Corps |
Posted - 2007.07.20 03:42:00 -
[91] The simple thing about gate camping is truly amazing when you really think about it. The gate campers are taking revenge for being the s*** on, kicked, beat-up kid in school, they now have the power to be the bully and are taking every opportunity to use it to the fullest possible advantage their tiny brains can figure out. Ganking is nothing more than I'm-bigger-than-you-and-I-want-to-prove-how-kick-A**-I-am-over-you syndrome. Every bully gets it, and some just are too lacking in brains to figure it out. I respect Pirates to the fullest, and have since I have played this game since last year. And unfortunately I even have friends that play who are gankers and have tried almost everyday to convince to join the dark side, As I am a bounty hunter and won't. But no matter which way you slice the cheese it is still just people who feel inadequate in some way and compensate by camping gates in Eve to make themselves feel better. More power to em in the end though...... |
 Verone Veto Corp |
Posted - 2007.07.20 03:46:00 -
[92] Bleh Necro >>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<< |
 H Zandramus H Zandramus Corp Blood Raiders Alliance |
Posted - 2007.07.20 03:50:00 -
[93] wow can u say almost a 4yr old post being bumpd - kresh vladir __________________________ Your signature exceeds the guidelines for forum signature graphics - Jacques' |
 Estoika Chonda Gallente Kharak Confederation |
Posted - 2007.07.20 04:11:00 -
[94] Edited by: Estoika Chonda on 20/07/2007 04:10:48 I tought that since u warp u have some tome of invulnerability, like when u get out from a station, ppl cant target u... and when u activate a jump, u got cloacked for about 15-20 secs... I don't know how u got owned With blood in our voices we ride, we'll fight till we win or we'll fight until we die!! |
 Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction Molotov Coalition |
Posted - 2007.07.20 04:19:00 -
[95]
besides jostling your ship around a bit when do torps or any weapons in the game actually move (meters per sec)your ship. "Where are you guys going in your battleships?" "We are going to camp in Amamake; kill 500 carebears and 1 NPC" "Why are you gonna kill an NPC?" "See, nobody cares about the carebears!" |
 Golden Helmet Caldari Team Americas |
Posted - 2007.07.20 04:36:00 -
[96] DIE NECROMANCER, DIE! |
 Nalar Marnith Minmatar Tetranex Consolidated |
Posted - 2007.07.20 04:43:00 -
[97] Necro, necro man, I want to be a necro man. Not really. |
 deathforge The Accursed |
Posted - 2007.07.20 04:43:00 -
[98] Threads like this make me wish the search box was never added... You just need to cry that badly that you're digging up a 4 year old thread, in which the game mechanics on jumping were totally different? Stop it with this mindless tripe about the real lives of people you know nothing about other than where the congregate in eve, we've heard it all before. And by the way, I rule you. ---------------------- Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ |
 Arknox Minmatar 23rd Armor Hydra Alliance |
Posted - 2007.07.20 06:15:00 -
[99]
i looked at the date after that line ----------
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 Mr Vapor Minmatar Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2007.07.20 06:49:00 -
[100] Baby Jesus hates Necromancy. LOL @ Camar though. The oldest "noob" in Eve. (wink, wink) |
 Rauth Kivaro Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department  |
Posted - 2007.07.20 06:56:00 -
[101] Necro bad! Back to the shadows with thee. *click* forum rules | [email protected] | Our Website |
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