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i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY
sHaKeDoWn..
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Posted - 2011.12.02 10:01:00 -
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LOL |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
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Posted - 2011.12.02 10:09:00 -
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Explain the scam please? |
Molly Molotov
Sunshine In A Cup
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Posted - 2011.12.02 10:14:00 -
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It is very plausible that a wife and a friend would go through all this trouble to avenge a junkie husband on an obscure online video game and name members of the Tactical Narcotics Team as some sort of culprit.
It is not at all plausible that these ^ creative geniuses would make up a story involving drug abuse. |
Seleia O'Sinnor
Arklight Project
Fade 2 Black
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:10:00 -
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If this is ral, I am deeply sorry.
Yes Eve is a game, and you people are right about telling so over and over. That a human can get involved emotionally is nothing new, but so many players leave their empathy at the login screen. Don't blame people to put big effort into a game and then really crying about losses, it's all quality life time spent in the intended way of a player. Sometimes it gets out of hand, so I wonder how many are laughing madly at this loss and enjoy real life tears. Sorry, but I really don't understand.
Trust in Eve comes slowly, if at all. You can be lucky and meet the right people and so you can end up with the wrong ones.
This game is too much driven by tears and greed. Like a mob chasing a witch, it grows and grows, more torches, more hay forks.
I never forget this, kind of lead me to play with only a few people, especially real life friends if possible.
Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing. |
Derus Grobb
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:36:00 -
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This belongs in OOPE.
Even if this is real, what does it have to do with Eve? So the guy had a bad day, it doesn't make any difference whether that was Eve or work or family. |
Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:45:00 -
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Baden Luskan wrote:
What is sickening is the prevailing attitude of "point and laugh" in this game. Its like watching the social behaviors of high school teenagers, but on a world level. So little empathy is displayed here, its quite disheartening.
Agreed, but i would rather have these sociopaths acting through the veil of a virtual world than acting directly in the real world.
Without the darkness its hard to see the light. |
Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf
Fatal Ascension
227
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:51:00 -
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Ten Bulls wrote:Baden Luskan wrote:
What is sickening is the prevailing attitude of "point and laugh" in this game. Its like watching the social behaviors of high school teenagers, but on a world level. So little empathy is displayed here, its quite disheartening.
Agreed, but i would rather have these sociopaths acting through the veil of a virtual world than acting directly in the real world. Without the darkness its hard to see the light.
Don't bring RL relations to a video game. Cause to be honest, in RL I'd be wanting to remove the things which could potentially be abused by a drug user or do harm away from them.
This guy's CEO/Corp/e-friends did this drug user and emotionally unstable guy who was about to have a child a FAVOR. He needs to be away from the computer and not trying to off him self with pain meds over a video game.
He needs to be seeking help and trying to stabilize himself to become a father to his child.
It's not Rocket Surgery |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:56:00 -
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This smells like total BS to me.
Someone got his stuff stolen by corp. so he makes up a huge sob story about it.
If, by some slim chance, and I mean SLIM, chance its real...... The wife is posting on his account. Thats account sharing, BANHAMMER!
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:57:00 -
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I got hit by a but when i was crossing over a street without looking and caring for my future health..
See what i did there? same story... i dont care,... u must be american...
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Nalia White
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:27:00 -
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that's what happens when you can't be touched in real life and the rules of a game are harsh... the worst in mankind will show up. empathic people wouldn't even do bad stuff to people in a game without a personal gain... tear collecting, it makes me puke really... if you take it from them with a fight that's all fine and deserved but stuff like this makes me consider quitting eve.... to many sociopaths ingame and they would be the people who would slice and dice their way through real people if there were no consequences in real life for doing so... the desire to bring misery to people is a deep root which is only stopped through the fear of proscecution. take that away and the murder will begin...
if this story is true and the members did indeed know that this person was in rehab because of big rl problems i hope they will be on the receiving end of "harshness" in the real world... i hope karma exists... |
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Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:34:00 -
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It is important to realize that there are real people behind the avatar, however those same people need to accept reality of the world we live in - people in general are not always nice to others. A capitalistic society, which I'm sure a majority of us live in, encourages competition and selfish behavior. That's why we have rules to attempt to limit such behavior.
EVE doesn't really have those rules and the internet as a whole doesn't really either. Ever read a comment section on a news article?
Wishing that people recognize that there is someone behind the avatar before doing mean things is wishing for a "if people would" world instead of a "people are" world. When playing this game, I would suggest paying some attention to the "people are" world and accept it.
That said, I hope this person feels better and gets on track with his life soon.
Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour!
https://sourceforge.net/projects/eveiph/ |
Proteus Maximus
New Eden Outcasts
Malicious Intent Gentleman's Club
20
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:37:00 -
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While I feel for you OP you have done your husband a disservice here. This hobby is not for people with addictive personalities who may become emotionally compromised. I players lives and dies in this game solely on the sharpness of one's mind.
He had the foresight to see his addiction needed to be adressed. He also should have used that realization to wire his **** tight before he left. . . or expect it to be gone on his return chalking the looses up as casualties of his addiction.
My advice is to spend your time restoring his self worth and not pointing the blame finger at this game & the players with the intelligence & self control to keep everyone at arms length.
Eve... It's just a better class of Idiot. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:11:00 -
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People with osteoporosis should not play full contact sports and then expect the rules to be changed to suit them.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Arkon Hjallian
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:13:00 -
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Obligatory Can I have his stuff?
owait...
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gfldex
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:16:00 -
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How does that "personal POS"-thing work? Did I miss something in the patch notes? And how did he got his "personal POS" fueled while he was AFK? I can't help it but there seam to be a few missing spots on that story, no matter how heartbreaking the outcome was. His wife for sure didn't do him a favour, nor did the OP.
The person is question, we will learn the name soon enough, will forever been known as the idiot that left billions in space while taking a break. Well done OP. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:25:00 -
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I call bullshi**! This is a story based on a post by the "wife" of the player. Then reposted by an alt. Hmmmm....
Sorry, don't buy it. Post a link of a video of the actual dude in rehab, then you'll have my sympathy about his addiction.
As for the gaming aspect of it, he's played since 2004 and he doesn't realize that walking away from the game for 1 day opens him up to something of this nature???
TTFN, better luck next time to garner sympathy for scamming.
Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen.
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Janos Saal
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:29:00 -
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lmao
EVE is dead |
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:34:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Sad tale of woe to be sure. One hard lesson I learned in Eve (and sadly get retaught on occasion) Eve makes folks evil. Unless you know someone well in RL and encounter them regularly you should never trust anyone with anything of value. Once in a while a rare person comes along to earn more trust and I'll bend that rule a bit, but even then I assume anything I put at risk will be lost in the end.
Hope your husband recovers and finds a better lot to cast in with and he finds some joy in the 'verse again soon.
There are people in game I trusted with all my collections, isk and other valuables and not one took anything that wasn't offered first. There are way more trustworthy people in eve than everyone says or thinks.
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Red Templar
Raging Ducks
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:42:00 -
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Even if this is true, and not a massive troll - where is the scam part in what happened? Scam is a con, its only target is taking away persons assets. Scam is intentional. This guy was part of the corp for a long time, so i guess no one tried tricking him into putting up a POS and putting most of his assets there.
And then he left the game. For a long time. Care to guess what happened with a POS? Fuel ended and it fuckin screamed for a long time and annoyed POS managers. Care to guess what POS managers did to un-attended POS? They un-anchored it, with everything in it. And probably confiscated the stuff as punishment. No big surprise there.
Im sorry to break it to you, but there is no such a thing as personal pos in this game. They are all corporate. If you want it truly to be personal - create your own 1 man corp and mount it there. Then no one can touch it.
The questions is - did he warn anyone about his absence?? I have a feeling that no. If that was an intervention on the part of the family, then he probably didnt have any time. Otherwise he would probably remove the pos and put everything to station. Was there anyone in the corp that was aware of his situation and what is happening to him? I do not see answer to this question here.
If he did warn that he will be absent and asked someone to take care of it - then yes, that is a very dirty thing to take away stuff from the guy who said that he is sick and will be absent for a long time.
So, excuse me, but i dont see scam in this. If it was a scam, he would lose all his stuff long before that.
And trying to present this unfortunate situation as pinnacle of evilness of human nature is a crappy thing to do. You try to use personal tragedy to put some dirt on people who may not even be aware of the details and just did the things they had to do.
Hope he gets well.
For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
Whyumadtho
Have A Seat
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:50:00 -
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Alternatively: scamming reaches a new high.
Just sayin... |
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Wibla
Alcatraz Inc.
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:06:00 -
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Did some digging...
Bad troll, 2/10.
CEO
Tactical Narcotics Team |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:08:00 -
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To summarize:
Drugs are bad m'kay.
I live, I post, I slay. I am content.
Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |
Barakkus
1119
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:14:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:
Btw, abusing an addictive prescription medication (I'm sure he was warned not to take it more often than prescribed) is no different than abusing any other substance. That stuff ain't candy.
Doesn't matter if you're warned or not, the brain and the body does funny things when you become addicted to something, reasoning goes completely out the window for the most part. |
Cpt Greagor
Liquid Relief
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:15:00 -
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If he was not fully aware that this could, and probably would, happen at any point, he obviously hasn't played this game very much. I'm not going to say that taking his things was right, but it wasn't wrong either. Eve is not a game where you win by being nice. You get rich by taking what you can when you can. This was a great opportunity to get very rich. I would probably have done the same. Personally, I don't trust anyone in Eve unless I know them in real life.
Now on to the matter of his attempted suicide. That is completely his fault. Eve is a GAME. It is not real life.
You lost everything? So what, start over. If you did it once you can do it again, except better this time. Now you know just how cruel and heartless space is. You will protect your things this time. You will build your fortune faster as you know the best ways from doing it the first time.
If he takes Eve that seriously that he swallowed a bunch of pills I think he might need to take a break for a while. |
Ayuren Aakiwa
K1llUminat1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:25:00 -
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I didn't read most of this thread, but it seems like a drug addict ignored his wife and baby for pills and spaceships, got robbed in game and attempted suicide(?)
Welcome to eve  |
Renan Ruivo
Hipernova
Vera Cruz Alliance
396
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:28:00 -
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Like i said before, there's a fine line between being a "cold and harsh" universe and being a "cruel and inhumane" place.
Betraying him and taking everything he had is cold and harsh. Just business, it happens.. no hard feelings.. pick your associates better next time around. C'est la vie.
But taunting, laughing and ridiculing someone when you know of the sorts of troubles said person is going through in real life has nothing to do with EVE or its universe. That is being outright cruel, and there is no place for that in this game in my humble opinion.
Take everything i own and leave me broke, sure. Just don't spit in my face.
Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |
Ginta Suiseiseki
Skyforger
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:42:00 -
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No sir.. it realy happend as it was written in that post. Accurate to the word.
It was planed in LVSKY BBQ in 2004 on the shore of baltic sea.
His wish to build a supercap was the reason for it..
We wanted to work hard and donate funds to a Minmatar Kids Orphanage building fund. but he decided to ignore it and build a supercap.
this had to be dealt with
While he was mining minerals at THE belt on that faithfull day of 28 november the button was pushed.
All the cap parts wer reprocesed and rebuilt as toys for Orphans. |
Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:45:00 -
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Scammers are evil c/d? |
Soon Shin
Abyssal Heavy Industries
Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:07:00 -
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I personally think your husband has some mental issues and problems if losing ingame stuff causes him to become like this.
Sure what his "friends" did was unfair, but that's just way things are ingame and real life.
I personally believe that you should be going to him and helping him, rather than worry about EVE.
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Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
354
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:10:00 -
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Soon Shin wrote:
I personally believe that you should be going to him and helping him, rather than worry about EVE.
Hence why the post is all made up. If you really cared about someones welfare, would you be going on a games forums and talking about it?
Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen.
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
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