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NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:14:00 -
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Rabid cat wrote:Do you really believe the the stuff in op really happened???
I'd say 100% bullshit...
I would agree. If you pull an intervention they includes all temptations like the PC.
Yes EVE is brutal bloodsport. Trusting anyone you don't know for real is nuts.
If OP is for real then the forums should already convince you that we can't confirm your story.
Sorry c'est EVE
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Chelone
Outside The Asylum
11
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:19:00 -
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OP what you failed to subsequently realize is the following:
- anyone who would care about your story wouldn't have done this in the first place - many people in Eve will laugh about your story and get great enjoyment over it
Eve is a haven for sociopaths. They want your IRL tears. Your story was entertainment to them. |

Eternus8lux8lucis
Hot Meat Injection
15
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:22:00 -
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Im all for the scam in and of its. But when they found out about the real life situation the in game stuff imo stops. Everywhere in Eve you hear the words " No worries, real life comes first". So in a lot of ways if this is true, which I must say Im still skeptical about which is for me normal especially given the Eve nature, they went to far when the real life circumstances came to light. Their humanity shouldve prevailed but I guess it didnt.
There is such a thing as having the game stop for real life issues.
And as a side note to AKJon....Dude WTF?!?! Are you 12? Be in serious pain for the majority of your day on heavy medication, not being able to sleep or do much because your in constant pain. Now remember the medication your on is as addictive in some cases as ****** or any other street drug but is the only thing to ease the pain, then remember that people react to it differently. But your doctor has made the judgement call that itll let you at least live in a little bit less pain.
I have a buddy whos got some serious issues healthwise. And its horrible to see the **** hes going through. You really need to grow up and grab a brain about real life. This isnt about a junkie that cant control themselves and jonesing for a fix this is a case of pain, way to much REAL pain. Ive played sports all my life, from baseball to boxing and MMA, Ive had to play rugby games on two partially torn achilles tendons because my team needed me. Think of the worst pain youve ever felt and now imagine its PERMANENT. |

Xpaulusx
Hosti1e Traff1c Control
11
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:23:00 -
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What this guy failed to relize is everybody is a potential enemy in this game, even corp members, remember this is EVE in the end everybody is my enemy. Don't be stupid, trust no one. |

Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
144
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:38:00 -
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i try to keep an emotional distance from EVE so if people become asshats i can just brush it off. CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |

Evenus Battuta
12
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:50:00 -
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CCP should add this into the advertising like they always did, so people will get nuts to get in EVE just like they always thought. |

looMin uS
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:57:00 -
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My cat has no teeth. it hurts me to see her sitting there with her tounge sticking out her mouth because she has no teeth to hold it back...really sad I tell you. |

Captain Tavius
Picon Fleet New Eden Research.
44
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:03:00 -
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On the one hand you've got people being jerks to someone who deserves a break, on the other you've got EVE players being EVE players (scamming and betrayal is what EVE is after all) and a person in a sensitive situation putting himself in the line of fire.. unwittingly, though.
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Ilinea
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:03:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:And btw, the wife did the guy a disservice by deliberately ignoring his wishes and giving these griefing sociopaths all of these priceless tears.
Also she's mad at the wrong person. She should be mad at her husband for valuing a few space pixels more than his wife and new baby.
I hope she at least has the good sense not to breed with this guy again.
Btw, abusing an addictive prescription medication (I'm sure he was warned not to take it more often than prescribed) is no different than abusing any other substance. That stuff ain't candy.
Poor kid.
Seriously, this is not about valueing pixels... if you knew anything about human's psychology, you would understand this is about friendships and getting betrayed by those you feel you can trust and value.
Let's stop this "welcome to eve"-bullshit and think a moment about, that some people reach after a specific moment a point, where they would consider someone else, no matter if rl or ingame, as one of their closest friends.
How about everyone stops here bashing on this one guy the OP talks about, which I bet he didn't choice to be in this difficult situation and start critizing what the members of his corp did, when they took advantage of someone's serious rl issues. Don't forget, this are real people playing here with feelings. Just because scamming is a part of eve does it mean, there should be absolutely no borders at all? Seriously, think again!
Does some billions in eve count more than the people behind the screen?
They told me to mine... and I started to mine, the market ;) |

Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:21:00 -
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This is a work of art.
9/10.
To the rest of you: ah lol. |

Surge Roth
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:28:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:This is what humans are like behind their kind faces, polite words and socially acceptable masks. It's brutal and not pretty at all, and I hope for each and every one of your sakes, that you have learned this sometime in your adult life BEFORE losing pixel assets drives you to an overdose. 
Stop projecting bro. Not EVERYONE is like you. But that's the beauty of being on the internet, huh? You are free to type down whatever it is you believe in.
Even if it's wrong. |

Mirabi Tiane
8
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:02:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:This is what humans are like behind their kind faces, polite words and socially acceptable masks. This. This is the reality. In-person accountability only restrains it. EVE doesn't "make people evil". Proof is in history, and also in modern politics. |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
214
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:07:00 -
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Yes we know you've seen American Psycho and Fight Club I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
214
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:08:00 -
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Some of us are cool guys in real life and awful people in internet space And forums. I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
214
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:10:00 -
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Some of us. I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |

Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
138
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:55:00 -
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When will we see the first lawsuit over virtual goods, Gamasutra article on Virtual Justice.
I can see this happening eventually with cash shop items because they have been given a real world value by developers. Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |

Zevina
Atomic Core Industries and Science
6
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Posted - 2011.12.02 06:16:00 -
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Thats the reason why I always keep my valuables in high sec stations or safespot cans noone else but me has access to. Joining a corporation is first and foremost to make profit and enjoy a good time together. Anyone entrusting corp mates, even long term "friends" from the internet, with vital assets that might possible decide your ingame future just makes a terrible mistake.
This thread is not only a reminder of sad things happening and mean behaviour towards a person who has already hit rockbottom its also and foremost a reminder to everyone to play this game the smart way and always remember:
NEVER RISK WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE !
EDIT: Btw this might actually be the perfect scam, if the author would ask for some kind financial support for the mistreated and now bankrupt, drug-addicted but still good spirited loving father of a little child. Im sure for such a story, be it true or untrue, there might come in a few billions. |

xynix
Sanctus Vita Lizard Kings
4
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Posted - 2011.12.02 06:23:00 -
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Perhaps he should play WoW |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
155
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Posted - 2011.12.02 07:48:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I write once more that all I ever asked of griefers is that they admit they do it for the grief. I never try to change anybody's game, or tell anybody how to play. Out of courtesy I ask for one shred of honesty.
But a sociapath will always try to lie about their reasons, it's part of being one. I consider myself a pretty mellow and sociable person. I'll help an old lady cross the street, I'll drop a dime into the collection can, and I'll return a lost wallet.
In EVE, I will claw out your still-beating heart, and slowly slice it with a potato peeler in front of your very eyes. I'll make you suffer and squirm, if it suits my own goals. I expect you to do the same. You know why? Because this is a video game about conflict, war, theft, betrayal, and cheating. I enjoy every second of seeing someone suffer in EVE, because I know that in this game, a player can only be a victim of his own stupidity, and not a victim of circumstance.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In RL though, where there is consequence, there is civility. If someone wants to call me names on the internet, I don't care. They can even exercise their First Amendment to my face for all I care. But touch me and I will empty a magazine into them and any friends who are pointing and laughing.
This is why I have not been touched in almost 30 years. Oh, I see. You're one of those internet tough guys. Work out and shoot guns and take MMA classes, bro? Washboard abs and a trophy girlfriend, right? And ain't no one going to **** with your **** 'cause you got it on lockdown?
You remind me of some of the war targets I've had, who opened chats and threatened to hunt me down and kill me in real life. All over some space pixels. That, or a terrible rap song. Take your pick.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:What I wonder most is, are these asshats in MMOs people who do roughly the same in RL and take themselves into the games, or are the asshats in MMOs people who are victims in RL and, having no recourse for revenge and/or justice, come to the game to take it out on someone else?
Maybe that's why griefers don't admit their true intentions. Yeah, okay. I guess you have a degree in psychology too. Must be a tight fit on the mantle, though, what with all the sharpshooting awards you have stacked on it.
What a bunch of tripe. It's pure hypocrisy that someone with your professed real-life attitude toward violence and self-defense would take up such a bleeding-heart attitude towards a game in which shooting other players is the main attraction.
To all the others: you're falling for a troll, though a well-planned one at that. By all means don't stop; I find it hilarious.
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supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
15
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:05:00 -
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Wow all you guys like O wah wah the op had problems.
OMG should we go over like, 1 person dies every 5 seconds... I forget how many are poor in the usa... 43million? or something...
How many people have issues, O wait that is like everyone...
So who really cares? Like, should we all walk around moping all day, thinking about all the people being robbed, killed, dying, poor, hungry, ODing, etc etc etc etc etcccccccccccccc.
lol **** was stolen... welcome to the game of eve... can't deal your problem. Got news for you, if you had some sort of break down whatever, idc, and you were not a good frined in eve... TY FOR THE STUFFZ! I bet I'd take it all...
I've given people to access to TONS of isk... I'm taking a risk, I trust em... if they rob me... O well... that's the game... and if I rob them... lol hehe...
Anyways only retards get scammed so nothing new here lol...
*never* been scammed =D |

Quinc4623
Borg Mining Collective Unimatrix 01 Legion. XIII
4
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:15:00 -
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It's a known factor that people get attached to their MMOs. They make a horrible rug to stand upon, but it helps if no one pulls that out from under you in your time of need. But as noted this is probably more to do with the betrayal.
I mean seriously, why do only people you've met face to face count? If you could take your RL friend's stuff in such a way s/he could never prove it to the prolice, or otherwise get back at you (besides stop being friends of course), would you do that? Apparently the answer is different for an online-only friend. Apparently empathy is an irrational response to looking at a human face. This also explains why people care about actors so much after watching TV all day.
No he didn't do anything stupid. It is quite possible to get into an accident, or hospitalized, or whatever such that you will be pulled away from the game for a long time with no chance to prepare. Accident are like that. Also, most people assume you can possibly get to the point of actually trusting a person, or group of people at some point. Thus he did the did the smart thing of focusing on his real life situation for a good while.
Meanwhile his corp buddies either decided they needed the Super-Capital sooner rather than later, or they got pissed that somebody would dump them to deal with real life, or as the OP suggests, they just did it for *****, giggles, and a good deal of profit.
Of course all this "Well of course they scammed him!" nonsense raises the question: If the average corp has such a high chance of stealing all your stuff, then when is it ever EVER a good idea to join any corporation ever? At least in the case of a POS based corp (which you need to build super capitals if I recall) you MUST trust them with your stuff, at least all the stuff you want to make use of while operating from a POS. Also I know of plenty of people who I can trust with my stuff at any time, anywhere. I'd name them though you might try to scam them somehow.
Yes, I believe this story. If they were asking for money it might be a scam, but lo! they aren't asking for money...just a heavily implied request for revenge. This **** happens all the time in the real world people. Yes stirring up sympathy for whoever this guy is requires noticeable emotional discomfort, but that doesn't somehow justify a knee-jerk "FAKE!!"
No, the guy shouldn't get so emotionally invested in the game, but people shouldn't be constantly betraying their online friends either. |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
155
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:26:00 -
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Quinc4623 wrote:Yes, I believe this story. If they were asking for money it might be a scam, but lo! they aren't asking for money...just a heavily implied request for revenge. This **** happens all the time in the real world people. Yes stirring up sympathy for whoever this guy is requires noticeable emotional discomfort, but that doesn't somehow justify a knee-jerk "FAKE!!" Hello. This must be your first time here. Tours are conducted twice daily. Please keep your hands at your sides, and try to avoid all eye contact with the caged specimens. Do not be alarmed by the inhuman screams of agony, as you will soon get accustomed to them. Enjoy your stay! |

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises Black Watch.
36
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:30:00 -
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I have to admit i was unsure weather or not to reply to this thread,both because it is very possible its just a troll,and because i know that this is the Eve forums and i will most likely get flamed 
If its not a troll,it is sad to hear that this happend. Weather or not its wrong is something that depends so much on what kind of person you ask. Would i do something like this? Heck no but then again i have refused to even take a t1 mod out of the corp hangar for years due to being blamed for a corp theft once (i was proven innocent and the guy who did steal it returned it all ).
Does it suprise me to hear something like this happening in Eve? No.
Some years back we had a corp member who had cancer. He was on a lot of pain meds,and had trouble reading chats (if you where on voice with him you couldent shut the guy up tho lol). We,the corp members, where all aware of his situation and we did our best to ensure that both him and his wife felt included and safe in the corp.
But others we where involved with dident think the same way. Several alliances gave us the ultimatum that we where not allowed to join unless we removed him from the corp since they did not want "dead weight",others,who first found out of his condition later,made attempts at suecide ganking them while mining because they tought it was a spy due to the fact that they did not get a reply in alliance chat. Trust me there was a lot of drama that followed this just to convinse the alliance to let them stay in the corp. But im sure your wondering whats the point with this?
The corp member in question was in a very bad state,and he could not leave the house,and he was ashamed to let real life friends even see him. Because of this Eve and the corp members was his only real friends exept his wife. She once told me that we made the last few years of his life a lot easier,and better,because he could trust us,and he felt that he actually had friends that he could talk to. We helped him forget the fact that he had cancer.
Im guessing something similar happend in this case...I cant imagion how a betrayal like that must feel when your in such a bad emotional state to begin with. But i still cant say that i jump up and down in rage over the people who did it. It is a game,and this kind of stuff happens a lot. You even have people who will go to threads where someone is making an announcment where someone died and say something like "their biggest wish was to get a titan. Show your respect and donate to the cause. Isk can be sendt to this character". You shake your head over it and think how low it is,but you soon forget about it.
Online games allows people to be what they CANT be in real life,for some people that is assholes,or bullies or whatever you want to call it. Some get it out by scamming noobs,some do it by blowing people up,some do it by abusing another players bad real life situation.
I am sorry it happend,and i do hope he will be ok. And if he wishes to come back to Eve i hope he remembers that even if there are assholes in Eve,there are also good people. But no matter how nice someone seems,remember that they are still just people in an online game. Its very very rare you will find someone who you can trust as much as you would a real life friend. If you dont keep this in mind,the harsh world of Eve will mentally crush you as you get betrayed over and over again.
Regards, NightCrawler |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
207
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:32:00 -
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Baden Luskan wrote:Reading stuff like this baffles me. The internet truely shows the dark side of a human being when there is no true accountability for their actions. This is also evident in some of the posts that follow. Taking the OP at face value (I see no reason why they would make this up), this person had in-real-life problems. EVERYONE in this game has had problems at some time or another in thier lives, just most of us not of this magnitude.
What is sickening is the prevailing attitude of "point and laugh" in this game. Its like watching the social behaviors of high school teenagers, but on a world level. So little empathy is displayed here, its quite disheartening. If this stranger was your friend or a loved one, I am sure you would not exibit this kind of behavior, and would be disgusted if someone else did. That being said, have some respect for others. This is a game, but just like any other arena of competition, there is a level of respect everyone that steps into it deserves.
To the OP: I am sorry your friend has had to endure this treatment. Its never easy to deal with the realization that someone you have trusted has betrayed you. Hopefully your friend can get himself collected emotionally and place things in the proper perspective so to allow him to come back to Eve and find a place where he can enjoy his free time. Hopefully karma will come back to bite those that wronged this individual like it often does in real life.
I was going to write something in response, but Baden Luskan summed it up perfectly. Karma is reality and does its thing in its own time, but it happens, of that one can be sure. Being addicted to a prescription drug for the relief of incessant pain is nothing to joke about either. It's so easy for people here to say it's his own fault, to get his life together, to look after his wife and child. How glib, how souless.
To the affected Mother and family - good luck and God bless.
Peace out. o/
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Wibla
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
12
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:58:00 -
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I'm honestly not sure if this is a troll or not, but I have asked the corp directors in LVSKY about what happened. CEO Tactical Narcotics Team |

Cailais
Rekall Incorporated The Forsaken.
154
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:01:00 -
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tl:dr version
OP got scammed of all his assets. OP makes up some sob story about his 'friend'. OP continues to cry on forums. The end.
C.
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Shinshi Casoyako
Metal Undead Mort's Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:12:00 -
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I fail to grasp the point of the original thread and this thread.
Man does drugs Man goes into rehab Eve is Eve Man returns to Eve Man does drugs Man overdoses Man ends up in Hospital Woman cries on the forums Man survives Eve comminity goes all sympathetic
The fail in this is that the man did drugs, the woman doesnt understand eve and eve community didnt said up a relief fund for this man.
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Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil
48
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:20:00 -
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Where's the "scam" in all this drama?
Idiot shares password, gets his sh*t stolen. Working as intended, EvE is alive.
idgi
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Botleten
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
213
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:21:00 -
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Ok, so you saw a random post and decided to call out someone who has scammed you in the past but has nothing to do with the dude you're refering to  
Proof or GTFO. Using someone else's thread to call out a person you don't like that had nothing to do with anything related to it (while hiding behind an alt) is very pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourself. |

Alexandros Balfros
Liberty Rogues
10
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:54:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Not really sure why you consider this a new low in scamming TBH, seems like a garden variety, everyday scam to me. 
This^
Now before you all start a rage filled hate on me, firstly we don't even know if the people in EVE were aware of what was going on, all they might have seen was someone go inactive, in which case its a free for all sad to say as they have no idea if he is ever going to come back and play and why waste resources?
As bad as we feel for the person in the OP there isn't a lot we can do, this is a game and the machanics of the game allow for these actions its a harsh place to live.
While we wish the best for the person in the OP i think he needs to realise that this is just a game and these things will happen again no doubt |

i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY
sHaKeDoWn..
14
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Posted - 2011.12.02 10:01:00 -
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LOL |

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
11
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Posted - 2011.12.02 10:09:00 -
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Explain the scam please? |

Molly Molotov
Sunshine In A Cup
21
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Posted - 2011.12.02 10:14:00 -
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It is very plausible that a wife and a friend would go through all this trouble to avenge a junkie husband on an obscure online video game and name members of the Tactical Narcotics Team as some sort of culprit.
It is not at all plausible that these ^ creative geniuses would make up a story involving drug abuse. |

Seleia O'Sinnor
Arklight Project Fade 2 Black
19
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:10:00 -
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If this is ral, I am deeply sorry.
Yes Eve is a game, and you people are right about telling so over and over. That a human can get involved emotionally is nothing new, but so many players leave their empathy at the login screen. Don't blame people to put big effort into a game and then really crying about losses, it's all quality life time spent in the intended way of a player. Sometimes it gets out of hand, so I wonder how many are laughing madly at this loss and enjoy real life tears. Sorry, but I really don't understand.
Trust in Eve comes slowly, if at all. You can be lucky and meet the right people and so you can end up with the wrong ones.
This game is too much driven by tears and greed. Like a mob chasing a witch, it grows and grows, more torches, more hay forks.
I never forget this, kind of lead me to play with only a few people, especially real life friends if possible.
Eve community: An angry mob of bright people hunting witches, more torches, more hay forks, growing and growing. |

Derus Grobb
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:36:00 -
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This belongs in OOPE.
Even if this is real, what does it have to do with Eve? So the guy had a bad day, it doesn't make any difference whether that was Eve or work or family. |

Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
12
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:45:00 -
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Baden Luskan wrote: What is sickening is the prevailing attitude of "point and laugh" in this game. Its like watching the social behaviors of high school teenagers, but on a world level. So little empathy is displayed here, its quite disheartening.
Agreed, but i would rather have these sociopaths acting through the veil of a virtual world than acting directly in the real world.
Without the darkness its hard to see the light. |

Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
227
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:51:00 -
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Ten Bulls wrote:Baden Luskan wrote: What is sickening is the prevailing attitude of "point and laugh" in this game. Its like watching the social behaviors of high school teenagers, but on a world level. So little empathy is displayed here, its quite disheartening.
Agreed, but i would rather have these sociopaths acting through the veil of a virtual world than acting directly in the real world. Without the darkness its hard to see the light.
Don't bring RL relations to a video game. Cause to be honest, in RL I'd be wanting to remove the things which could potentially be abused by a drug user or do harm away from them.
This guy's CEO/Corp/e-friends did this drug user and emotionally unstable guy who was about to have a child a FAVOR. He needs to be away from the computer and not trying to off him self with pain meds over a video game.
He needs to be seeking help and trying to stabilize himself to become a father to his child.
It's not Rocket Surgery |

Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
20
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:56:00 -
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This smells like total BS to me.
Someone got his stuff stolen by corp. so he makes up a huge sob story about it.
If, by some slim chance, and I mean SLIM, chance its real...... The wife is posting on his account. Thats account sharing, BANHAMMER!
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |

Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
40
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Posted - 2011.12.02 11:57:00 -
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I got hit by a but when i was crossing over a street without looking and caring for my future health..
See what i did there? same story... i dont care,... u must be american... CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |

Nalia White
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:27:00 -
[40] - Quote
that's what happens when you can't be touched in real life and the rules of a game are harsh... the worst in mankind will show up. empathic people wouldn't even do bad stuff to people in a game without a personal gain... tear collecting, it makes me puke really... if you take it from them with a fight that's all fine and deserved but stuff like this makes me consider quitting eve.... to many sociopaths ingame and they would be the people who would slice and dice their way through real people if there were no consequences in real life for doing so... the desire to bring misery to people is a deep root which is only stopped through the fear of proscecution. take that away and the murder will begin...
if this story is true and the members did indeed know that this person was in rehab because of big rl problems i hope they will be on the receiving end of "harshness" in the real world... i hope karma exists... |

Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
51
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:34:00 -
[41] - Quote
It is important to realize that there are real people behind the avatar, however those same people need to accept reality of the world we live in - people in general are not always nice to others. A capitalistic society, which I'm sure a majority of us live in, encourages competition and selfish behavior. That's why we have rules to attempt to limit such behavior.
EVE doesn't really have those rules and the internet as a whole doesn't really either. Ever read a comment section on a news article?
Wishing that people recognize that there is someone behind the avatar before doing mean things is wishing for a "if people would" world instead of a "people are" world. When playing this game, I would suggest paying some attention to the "people are" world and accept it.
That said, I hope this person feels better and gets on track with his life soon. Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! https://sourceforge.net/projects/eveiph/ |

Proteus Maximus
New Eden Outcasts Malicious Intent Gentleman's Club
20
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Posted - 2011.12.02 12:37:00 -
[42] - Quote
While I feel for you OP you have done your husband a disservice here. This hobby is not for people with addictive personalities who may become emotionally compromised. I players lives and dies in this game solely on the sharpness of one's mind. He had the foresight to see his addiction needed to be adressed. He also should have used that realization to wire his **** tight before he left. . . or expect it to be gone on his return chalking the looses up as casualties of his addiction. My advice is to spend your time restoring his self worth and not pointing the blame finger at this game & the players with the intelligence & self control to keep everyone at arms length.
Eve... It's just a better class of Idiot. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
1319
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Posted - 2011.12.02 13:11:00 -
[43] - Quote
People with osteoporosis should not play full contact sports and then expect the rules to be changed to suit them. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |

Arkon Hjallian
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
16
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 13:13:00 -
[44] - Quote
Obligatory Can I have his stuff?
owait...
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gfldex
67
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 13:16:00 -
[45] - Quote
How does that "personal POS"-thing work? Did I miss something in the patch notes? And how did he got his "personal POS" fueled while he was AFK? I can't help it but there seam to be a few missing spots on that story, no matter how heartbreaking the outcome was. His wife for sure didn't do him a favour, nor did the OP.
The person is question, we will learn the name soon enough, will forever been known as the idiot that left billions in space while taking a break. Well done OP. |

Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
354
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 13:25:00 -
[46] - Quote
I call bullshi**! This is a story based on a post by the "wife" of the player. Then reposted by an alt. Hmmmm....
Sorry, don't buy it. Post a link of a video of the actual dude in rehab, then you'll have my sympathy about his addiction.
As for the gaming aspect of it, he's played since 2004 and he doesn't realize that walking away from the game for 1 day opens him up to something of this nature???
TTFN, better luck next time to garner sympathy for scamming. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |

Janos Saal
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
44
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 13:29:00 -
[47] - Quote
lmao EVE is dead |

T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
152
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 13:34:00 -
[48] - Quote
Issler Dainze wrote:Sad tale of woe to be sure. One hard lesson I learned in Eve (and sadly get retaught on occasion) Eve makes folks evil. Unless you know someone well in RL and encounter them regularly you should never trust anyone with anything of value. Once in a while a rare person comes along to earn more trust and I'll bend that rule a bit, but even then I assume anything I put at risk will be lost in the end.
Hope your husband recovers and finds a better lot to cast in with and he finds some joy in the 'verse again soon.
There are people in game I trusted with all my collections, isk and other valuables and not one took anything that wasn't offered first. There are way more trustworthy people in eve than everyone says or thinks.
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Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
97
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 14:42:00 -
[49] - Quote
Even if this is true, and not a massive troll - where is the scam part in what happened? Scam is a con, its only target is taking away persons assets. Scam is intentional. This guy was part of the corp for a long time, so i guess no one tried tricking him into putting up a POS and putting most of his assets there.
And then he left the game. For a long time. Care to guess what happened with a POS? Fuel ended and it fuckin screamed for a long time and annoyed POS managers. Care to guess what POS managers did to un-attended POS? They un-anchored it, with everything in it. And probably confiscated the stuff as punishment. No big surprise there.
Im sorry to break it to you, but there is no such a thing as personal pos in this game. They are all corporate. If you want it truly to be personal - create your own 1 man corp and mount it there. Then no one can touch it.
The questions is - did he warn anyone about his absence?? I have a feeling that no. If that was an intervention on the part of the family, then he probably didnt have any time. Otherwise he would probably remove the pos and put everything to station. Was there anyone in the corp that was aware of his situation and what is happening to him? I do not see answer to this question here.
If he did warn that he will be absent and asked someone to take care of it - then yes, that is a very dirty thing to take away stuff from the guy who said that he is sick and will be absent for a long time.
So, excuse me, but i dont see scam in this. If it was a scam, he would lose all his stuff long before that. And trying to present this unfortunate situation as pinnacle of evilness of human nature is a crappy thing to do. You try to use personal tragedy to put some dirt on people who may not even be aware of the details and just did the things they had to do.
Hope he gets well.
For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |

Whyumadtho
Have A Seat
34
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Posted - 2011.12.02 14:50:00 -
[50] - Quote
Alternatively: scamming reaches a new high.
Just sayin... |

Wibla
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
12
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 15:06:00 -
[51] - Quote
Did some digging...
Bad troll, 2/10. CEO Tactical Narcotics Team |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
214
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 15:08:00 -
[52] - Quote
To summarize:
Drugs are bad m'kay.
I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |

Barakkus
1119
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 15:14:00 -
[53] - Quote
AkJon Ferguson wrote: Btw, abusing an addictive prescription medication (I'm sure he was warned not to take it more often than prescribed) is no different than abusing any other substance. That stuff ain't candy.
Doesn't matter if you're warned or not, the brain and the body does funny things when you become addicted to something, reasoning goes completely out the window for the most part. |

Cpt Greagor
Liquid Relief
53
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 15:15:00 -
[54] - Quote
If he was not fully aware that this could, and probably would, happen at any point, he obviously hasn't played this game very much. I'm not going to say that taking his things was right, but it wasn't wrong either. Eve is not a game where you win by being nice. You get rich by taking what you can when you can. This was a great opportunity to get very rich. I would probably have done the same. Personally, I don't trust anyone in Eve unless I know them in real life.
Now on to the matter of his attempted suicide. That is completely his fault. Eve is a GAME. It is not real life. You lost everything? So what, start over. If you did it once you can do it again, except better this time. Now you know just how cruel and heartless space is. You will protect your things this time. You will build your fortune faster as you know the best ways from doing it the first time.
If he takes Eve that seriously that he swallowed a bunch of pills I think he might need to take a break for a while. |

Ayuren Aakiwa
K1llUminat1
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 15:25:00 -
[55] - Quote
I didn't read most of this thread, but it seems like a drug addict ignored his wife and baby for pills and spaceships, got robbed in game and attempted suicide(?)
Welcome to eve  |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
396
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 15:28:00 -
[56] - Quote
Like i said before, there's a fine line between being a "cold and harsh" universe and being a "cruel and inhumane" place.
Betraying him and taking everything he had is cold and harsh. Just business, it happens.. no hard feelings.. pick your associates better next time around. C'est la vie.
But taunting, laughing and ridiculing someone when you know of the sorts of troubles said person is going through in real life has nothing to do with EVE or its universe. That is being outright cruel, and there is no place for that in this game in my humble opinion.
Take everything i own and leave me broke, sure. Just don't spit in my face. Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |

Ginta Suiseiseki
Skyforger Tactical Narcotics Team
1
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 15:42:00 -
[57] - Quote
No sir.. it realy happend as it was written in that post. Accurate to the word. It was planed in LVSKY BBQ in 2004 on the shore of baltic sea.
His wish to build a supercap was the reason for it.. We wanted to work hard and donate funds to a Minmatar Kids Orphanage building fund. but he decided to ignore it and build a supercap. this had to be dealt with
While he was mining minerals at THE belt on that faithfull day of 28 november the button was pushed. All the cap parts wer reprocesed and rebuilt as toys for Orphans. |

Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 15:45:00 -
[58] - Quote
Scammers are evil c/d? |

Soon Shin
Abyssal Heavy Industries Narwhals Ate My Duck
22
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 16:07:00 -
[59] - Quote
I personally think your husband has some mental issues and problems if losing ingame stuff causes him to become like this.
Sure what his "friends" did was unfair, but that's just way things are ingame and real life.
I personally believe that you should be going to him and helping him, rather than worry about EVE.
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Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
354
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 16:10:00 -
[60] - Quote
Soon Shin wrote:
I personally believe that you should be going to him and helping him, rather than worry about EVE.
Hence why the post is all made up. If you really cared about someones welfare, would you be going on a games forums and talking about it? Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
259
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 16:15:00 -
[61] - Quote
Dradius Calvantia wrote:If one single word of the OP is true... I will eat my space hat.
Does it cost as much as a monocle?
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Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
34
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 16:22:00 -
[62] - Quote
Wow, that's really low. You have to ask yourself what fun can be found from scamming a sick man? You might as well kick puppies for sport.
Yes, this is Eve. I wouldn't trust anyone on Eve unless I knew them in RL and so I could punch them. Or slash a tyre. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
259
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 16:29:00 -
[63] - Quote
Destiny Corrupted wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I write once more that all I ever asked of griefers is that they admit they do it for the grief. I never try to change anybody's game, or tell anybody how to play. Out of courtesy I ask for one shred of honesty.
But a sociapath will always try to lie about their reasons, it's part of being one. I consider myself a pretty mellow and sociable person. I'll help an old lady cross the street, I'll drop a dime into the collection can, and I'll return a lost wallet. In EVE, I will claw out your still-beating heart, and slowly slice it with a potato peeler in front of your very eyes. I'll make you suffer and squirm, if it suits my own goals. I expect you to do the same. You know why? Because this is a video game about conflict, war, theft, betrayal, and cheating. I enjoy every second of seeing someone suffer in EVE, because I know that in this game, a player can only be a victim of his own stupidity, and not a victim of circumstance. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In RL though, where there is consequence, there is civility. If someone wants to call me names on the internet, I don't care. They can even exercise their First Amendment to my face for all I care. But touch me and I will empty a magazine into them and any friends who are pointing and laughing.
This is why I have not been touched in almost 30 years. Oh, I see. You're one of those internet tough guys. Work out and shoot guns and take MMA classes, bro? Washboard abs and a trophy girlfriend, right? And ain't no one going to **** with your **** 'cause you got it on lockdown? You remind me of some of the war targets I've had, who opened chats and threatened to hunt me down and kill me in real life. All over some space pixels. That, or a terrible rap song. Take your pick. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:What I wonder most is, are these asshats in MMOs people who do roughly the same in RL and take themselves into the games, or are the asshats in MMOs people who are victims in RL and, having no recourse for revenge and/or justice, come to the game to take it out on someone else?
Maybe that's why griefers don't admit their true intentions. Yeah, okay. I guess you have a degree in psychology too. Must be a tight fit on the mantle, though, what with all the sharpshooting awards you have stacked on it. What a bunch of tripe. It's pure hypocrisy that someone with your professed real-life attitude toward violence and self-defense would take up such a bleeding-heart attitude towards a game in which shooting other players is the main attraction. To all the others: you're falling for a troll, though a well-planned one at that. By all means don't stop; I find it hilarious.
I loled.
Wrong on many counts, but I wish you were right about the washboard abs though. The sixpack has eluded me since I was 30, and I am at least down to a fourpack.
As for making threats in a game, never. There are people in the field offices or cop shops who, if I ever did that, would be doing high fives screaming "we have a reason to take him down now!! woo hoo!!". And that's because I am already a war target in RL AND people like yourself, if threatened, would go ninnying to the cops with the "oooh I feel threatened" business just to see someone get busted. I protect myself from people like you in games, and in RL too. In America the "using cops as your personal weapon against others" tactic is quite common so leaving yourself open to that is something that a tactical-minded person remains well aware of in all interactions from games to random RL encounters.
But I have played well enough not to be in a situation to be tempted to make threats - if this game is "Gank and Grief Online" - and could be proven to be only that, then having never been ganked nor griefed since I started in 2006, in spite of all of the time I spend outside of high sec, I must be winning EvE then (again, only if EvE is officially "Gank and Grief Online").
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Satav
Latinum Exports
93
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 16:37:00 -
[64] - Quote
I have 4 things to say to the OP and his friend,
I'm sorry that you had to go through that difficult period in your life. And yes indeed , people even computer players are responsible for being decent.
But the fault isn't entirely with your friend's corp.
(1) Clearly your friend let eve become way to important to him and when he was recovering from rehab it was a mistake for him to rely on a computer game for stability. (2) EvE is a great game but should be remember as only a game.
(3) There is only so much we can do in influence others to make good choices. After that, it's up to us to reactive well, roll with the punches. We can't let others actions dictate our selfworth.
(4) As with any area of life, there are good people and bad people and you need to adopt habits that slowly gravitate the good people to you, no matter how slowly. Fast prosperity = fast poverty.
Although i have respect to the OP and his friend/wife for posting this, i believe that this should not have been posted do to privacy and security reason's. I hope, respectfully that a GM will lock this thread.
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Dervinus
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
24
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 16:42:00 -
[65] - Quote
Guy gets robbed because he is a drug addict
Guy gets robbed by TACTICAL NARCOTICS TEAM
KEYWORD NARCOTICS
If this is real, this is super ironic.
If this is fake, nice troll TNT (or whoever started this). Suprised people didnt put one and one together. |

Kietay Ayari
Monopoly Money Operations
79
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 16:48:00 -
[66] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
In RL though, where there is consequence, there is civility. If someone wants to call me names on the internet, I don't care. They can even exercise their First Amendment to my face for all I care. But touch me and I will empty a magazine into them and any friends who are pointing and laughing.
This is why I have not been touched in almost 30 years.
Aww yeah perfect logic: People who steal fake stuff in a game are sociopaths but if someone touches you in RL you better shoot them and all their friends. Good deal mister!
Ferox #1 |

Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
118
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 16:50:00 -
[67] - Quote
Mortis vonShadow wrote: Hence why the post is all made up. If you really cared about someones welfare, would you be going on a games forums and talking about it?
While I've never had a drug addiction, rehab sometimes isolates you from your family to prevent them from giving you a 'pity fix'. She may not be allowed to go to him. |

Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
354
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 16:54:00 -
[68] - Quote
This isn't real. If you give the OP sympathy, then you have been hoodwinked. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |

Rabid cat
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
10
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 17:15:00 -
[69] - Quote
The story is just missing the part where the original posting is asking for ISK to help the victim to get started again. |

Wibla
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
12
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 17:29:00 -
[70] - Quote
Dervinus wrote:Guy gets robbed because he is a drug addict
Guy gets robbed by TACTICAL NARCOTICS TEAM
KEYWORD NARCOTICS
If this is real, this is super ironic.
If this is fake, nice troll TNT (or whoever started this). Suprised people didnt put one and one together.
Carebear tears = narcotics  CEO Tactical Narcotics Team |

Cipher Jones
124
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 17:35:00 -
[71] - Quote
Ifly Uwalk wrote:Where's the "scam" in all this drama?
Idiot shares password, gets his sh*t stolen. Working as intended, EvE is alive.
idgi
I asked that on page 2, still waiting for a response.
The only thing I can think of is he had his **** in a POS if he didnt share his pass. In which case NONE of his money would get stolen. AND would also mean he was keeping every egg in one basket.
Sounds like he RMT'd to get his fix IMHO.
Quote:You have to ask yourself what fun can be found from scamming a sick man?
Please, show me the scam. Thanks.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
407
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 17:40:00 -
[72] - Quote
Crazy guy plays eve news at 11 |

Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
58
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 17:56:00 -
[73] - Quote
Mortis vonShadow wrote:This isn't real. If you give the OP sympathy, then you have been hoodwinked.
I'd rather risk being hoodwinked than risk being a complete ********. |

Rabid cat
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
10
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 18:08:00 -
[74] - Quote
But guys! This is just like a typical scam letter! I have seen many circulating sob stories like this on the internet! The only thing is that the part where the victim's wife is asking for money is missing.
PS. You can live completely normal life even if you are addicted to pain meds if you can keep taking only what you need (and if the meds really help). Maybe cannabis would have been better pain medication for the victim. |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
214
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 18:11:00 -
[75] - Quote
Esan Vartesa wrote:Mortis vonShadow wrote:This isn't real. If you give the OP sympathy, then you have been hoodwinked. I'd rather risk being hoodwinked than risk being a complete ********.
Don't worry hell doesn't exist, so you're safe as long as no one ever learns about your despicable actions IRL. I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
12
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 18:36:00 -
[76] - Quote
There are no 'friends' in eve, only co-workers. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
80
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 18:39:00 -
[77] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:And that's because I am already a war target in RL
I lol'd http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |

StillBorn CrackBaby
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
16
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 18:55:00 -
[78] - Quote
Famble wrote:My God, its a GAME!
Leave the personal stuff at the door. Od over pixels, my guess is he would have od'd after watching old yeller. The man's sick, get him help and don't bring that crap to the game. Like we don't get enough of this stuff in real life.
Exactly, this is how EVE works, it just a game geez.... Stupid story....
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A Little Girl
92
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 19:24:00 -
[79] - Quote
Eve is filled with jerks! Except for the people who give me likes. I like them too!  |

Xpaulusx
Hosti1e Traff1c Control
11
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 19:27:00 -
[80] - Quote
Contacting CCP advertising Dept on any future Box release sets to suggest printing on Box" Do not play under the influence and remember to use brain when playing". |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
259
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 19:45:00 -
[81] - Quote
Rabid cat wrote:But guys! This is just like a typical scam letter! I have seen many circulating sob stories like this on the internet! The only thing is that the part where the victim's wife is asking for money is missing.
PS. You can live completely normal life even if you are addicted to pain meds if you can keep taking only what you need (and if the meds really help). Maybe cannabis would have been better pain medication for the victim.
I'd flame you but I have to go help this guy in Nigeria who just emailed me.
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Martyr Theos
The NecroMonger Faith
26
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:46:00 -
[82] - Quote
What this tells me is that it was way past time for this person to quit playing games and clean up his act.
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Wacktopia
Sicarius. The Kadeshi
50
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 19:52:00 -
[83] - Quote
Personally I have found that keeping real life and EVE separate is a good idea. If something **** happens in game I don't let it affect my real life and vice versa. |

Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
113
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 20:06:00 -
[84] - Quote
AkJon Ferguson wrote:And btw, the wife did the guy a disservice by deliberately ignoring his wishes and giving these griefing sociopaths all of these priceless tears.
Also she's mad at the wrong person. She should be mad at her husband for valuing a few space pixels more than his wife and new baby.
I hope she at least has the good sense not to breed with this guy again.
Btw, abusing an addictive prescription medication (I'm sure he was warned not to take it more often than prescribed) is no different than abusing any other substance. That stuff ain't candy.
Poor kid. Ooooh, you'd go over big in Orwellianland. What's amusing about your response is, what goes around comes around. I'd be ready to duck any minute if I were you...fortunately, I'm not. You really should get that sociopathy looked at. It's worse than having a wart on the end of your nose. Really.
To her it doesn't matter much.-á It's chasms have been leapt, and she leans upon the skepticism of her chosen fate. |

Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
354
|
Posted - 2011.12.02 20:32:00 -
[85] - Quote
This isn't Mortis vonShadow posting, this is his wifes third cousins sister's friend.
After posting on this forum, something really bad happened to him. You see, he's been playing EVE for about 4yrs now and he went off to do something in real life, when real life caught up with him. (He had to go take a shower and a get some sleep as he has a sleeping disorder).
While he was away, some "friends" of his that he says he was close with in this game (cause he doesn't have any friends in real life), came into the area he calls home, and they mined some of the asteroids that he calls his own.
I don't know where people in this game get off, but, when someone has a sleeping disorder and they go get some sleep (finally!), that others think that its okay to come in and just make money off of his stuff.
When he awoke from his slumber, he seemed okay, refreshed even. He came and sat back at his computer, but only after saying hi to his wife and two kids, he went and got in his mining ship, went to mine, and all the rocks were gone from his spot that he says he cultivated for a few years.
Well, now he's back in bed sleeping again! And we're all worried sick that he may actually wake up this time and actually participate with his family. His wife says she can't have that.
So, if you guys could see to it that yous send him whatever it takes to get his wife some freedom, and Mortis back into mining that would be spectacular.
 Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |

Ai Shun
State War Academy Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2011.12.02 21:31:00 -
[86] - Quote
I've been contemplating this thread overnight. If this is a scam or not, I don't know. So whether that guy is in rehab or if he is sitting in mom's basement cackling with glee at the responses - it does not matter to me. Because at the end of the day, there is an old saying that my elders tried to teach me many, many years ago.
If you don't have anything nice to say, better to say nothing at all.
I wonder why so many people posting here have lost that basic courtesy. And, by making this post, I have broken that rule as well. |

Juju x
Original Black Plague
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 21:58:00 -
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This isn't a scam. Scamming is preying on the stupidity of others for profit.
Having sympathy for those with weak minds makes you weak as well. |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
222
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Posted - 2011.12.02 22:33:00 -
[88] - Quote
ESRB Notice:
ONLINE INTERACTION NOT RATED BY THE ESRB
Also, jumping in front of moving freight trains will probably kill you. Now you all better STFU before I accuse you all of cyber-bullying. |

Sara XIII
The Helljumpers
22
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Posted - 2011.12.02 22:54:00 -
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He should try to gain a little perspective.
He's kept his family and lost nothing of real value throughout this bad situation.
If any of this is true.......
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Otto Weston
The TERRA
2
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Posted - 2011.12.02 22:56:00 -
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1-Up Mushroom wrote:Baden Luskan wrote:Reading stuff like this baffles me. The internet truely shows the dark side of a human being when there is no true accountability for their actions. This is also evident in some of the posts that follow. Taking the OP at face value (I see no reason why they would make this up), this person had in-real-life problems. EVERYONE in this game has had problems at some time or another in thier lives, just most of us not of this magnitude.
What is sickening is the prevailing attitude of "point and laugh" in this game. Its like watching the social behaviors of high school teenagers, but on a world level. So little empathy is displayed here, its quite disheartening. If this stranger was your friend or a loved one, I am sure you would not exibit this kind of behavior, and would be disgusted if someone else did. That being said, have some respect for others. This is a game, but just like any other arena of competition, there is a level of respect everyone that steps into it deserves.
To the OP: I am sorry your friend has had to endure this treatment. Its never easy to deal with the realization that someone you have trusted has betrayed you. Hopefully your friend can get himself collected emotionally and place things in the proper perspective so to allow him to come back to Eve and find a place where he can enjoy his free time. Hopefully karma will come back to bite those that wronged this individual like it often does in real life. I feel completely the same way, it just amazes me to see how cold and harsh people are in this game, just because people want to seem tough or since they don't have an accountability as you said they think they can be complete cold and heartless idiots. You pretty much covered the way I feel but come on guys, even if you have zero sympathy for this guy at least be respectful and don't post anything at all.
This^ And **** every bastard who's pointing and laughing. Re:the OP.. you get him back in there, or you could set up your own spy alt.. get into their corp/ alliance and **** em all up from the inside. That, or pay RL money to buy plexes to hire people to **** em over. TNT use only Alpha fleets and are nublets. Everything's Air Droppable at least once. |

Alaric Faelen
Huge Midget Gynocology Research Bureau
13
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Posted - 2011.12.02 23:48:00 -
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From a cold, hard logical POV
Theft or betrayal in Eve is not only part of the game, but specifically a point many players like- whether they ever steal or are stolen from. This is Eve. Anyone playing for that long would have known this and may have taken part in something similar at some point.
The entire backstory is irrelevant. While personally tragic, it carries no weight in the context of theft in a game world. This is known as an Argument from Emotion, and is a logical fallacy. The theft of the game items stands alone, and the player's personal life is meaningless. His game loss is no worse than anyone else's, and more importantly-- IT'S A VIDEO GAME!!! He lost nothing real other than time playing he should have been enjoying.
This is the same QQing as always, but now with the emotional backstory. This post is just lashing out, finger pointing rather than analyzing the actual issues- which require professional help, not just ranting on game forums or substituting one drug for a digital one. Get help, real help. You won't find that on a game forum.
Cold? Yeah. We all have sob stories....I play Eve so much because I was injured while in the Army, and it's not by my choice that I am better at walking in a space station than in real life. I had a career, knees that worked- oh boo hoo. Now I play Eve....and yet somehow I haven't lost sight of the fact that it's what??? Say it with me.......a game.
Save the tear jerkers, it's childish. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
2457
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Posted - 2011.12.02 23:59:00 -
[92] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In RL though, where there is consequence, there is civility. If someone wants to call me names on the internet, I don't care. They can even exercise their First Amendment to my face for all I care. But touch me and I will empty a magazine into them and any friends who are pointing and laughing. And you say the ones playing the game have issues. How's that morale high ground looking now? 
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Rellik B00n
Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers The 0rphanage
43
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Posted - 2011.12.03 00:16:00 -
[93] - Quote
my dong has reached a new low
har har. IF post = alt AND subject is positive for goons THEN assume goon alt post. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
259
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Posted - 2011.12.03 00:21:00 -
[94] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In RL though, where there is consequence, there is civility. If someone wants to call me names on the internet, I don't care. They can even exercise their First Amendment to my face for all I care. But touch me and I will empty a magazine into them and any friends who are pointing and laughing. And you say the ones playing the game have issues. How's that morale high ground looking now? 
Live on your knees much?
Nobody has a right to hurt anybody against their will, for any reason, period.
My moral high ground is pretty dry, thank you.
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MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
97
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Posted - 2011.12.03 00:59:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote: Oh, I see. You're one of those internet tough guys.
It's kind of a funny reddit meme, the "look out, we got us a badass here"....but the reality is, there are some badasses here and there. And the "shoot you in the face" thing is cute and all...but when you're shot in the face, not so much. |

Xpaulusx
Hosti1e Traff1c Control
11
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Posted - 2011.12.03 01:14:00 -
[96] - Quote
Hopefully if this incident is true, somebody won't introduced legislation over this    . |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
441
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Posted - 2011.12.03 01:22:00 -
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Hmmm....
Assuming this is true, we all know he shouldn't have been stressed to the point of falling off the wagon by what others do in a game. He knows it (he didn't want to point fingers except at himself), his wife is upset but struggling to understand it (she respected his wishes and didn't name names), his friend got too emotionally involved and started this thread.
I can understand that, even though I disapprove and would not have created a thread like this myself.
I wouldn't presume to personally cast judgement on any of the participants in this unfortunate situation, but I will say this in reference to his former corp mates even while acknowledging their complete right to act as they did.
No class gentlemen, no class at all. To kill the enemy and break their toys!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |

Xpaulusx
Hosti1e Traff1c Control
11
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Posted - 2011.12.03 01:31:00 -
[98] - Quote
Reminds me back in the day when somebodie's mother tried to sue Ozzy Osbourne because her son killed himself after listening to his music. |

Fionaa
Quantum Link Company
4
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Posted - 2011.12.03 01:42:00 -
[99] - Quote
How much plexes/dollars did this guy invest in this game?! |

Thora Tau'ri
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
4
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Posted - 2011.12.03 02:04:00 -
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Yeah, sounds like a guy that invested real money into plex/ISK.
I've lost 2 faction/deadspace fitted Tengus within a week, and this was at a point when I could just fly and and was super new.
My response was "welp, time to get a new one" Which tapped out my wallet completely.
Losing ISK or assets in game should be like losing match of Battlefield. You can be pissed that you lost, but at the end of the day, it's just a game. |

Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
279
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Posted - 2011.12.03 03:15:00 -
[101] - Quote
Good job Skyforger. |

Sefner
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.12.03 03:18:00 -
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Just to summarise OP - Dude tells Corp he is out of game for a while for medical reasons, afforementioned dude gets screwed over by afformentioned corp. Am I missing anything?
Regardless of your "welcome to EVE" and "htfu" comments, it all seems rather heartless.
The truth of this situation is of course unknown but to be honest if someone in game told me "im out of game for 2 weeks to have a baby" or "im out of game for the forseeable future to have major surgery" then frankly Id wish them good luck and see you when you get back. Screwing them over in their absence would not really enter the equation.
Am I wrong? |

ConranAntoni
Empyrean Warriors The Obsidian Front
1
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Posted - 2011.12.03 03:36:00 -
[103] - Quote
People mean to eachother on the internets, news at 11. |

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
23
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Posted - 2011.12.03 05:32:00 -
[104] - Quote
... I bask in the chaos of this thread ...
IF REAL: I find the fact of the scam regular, I was scammed right upon login when a nameless person bought my free implant in 2005 for like 10isk when I was barely a couple of hours in the game and several others I learned the hard way, up to this day I still fondly remember Lofty for the scam named after him, good memories, but the act of gloating upon the act of this, apparently mentally ill person is a bit , extreme, distasteful and just plain wrong. There are limits, even in a world of rogues and deceit, there are limits.
IF FALSE: 7/10 made me talk for a bit with partners in the room and a twitter repost.
IF BOTH/NEITHER: the Chaos basking was glorious as I enjoy reading people's answers and snippets of some were resent to colleagues in the field. |

Alaric Faelen
Huge Midget Gynocology Research Bureau
13
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Posted - 2011.12.03 06:25:00 -
[105] - Quote
meh, my point stands. One's personal backstory is irrelevant. If stealing or scamming is bad, then it's so equally for everyone. Were his corp mates bad people to trust? Obviously, but it's not made worse because of someone's personal sob story.
I'd wager most Eve players have suffered tragedy or hardship, but amazingly don't equate RL to Eve. Hey my very first fleet op I was podded by my own FC when he nerd raged. He was a ****, but his podding me isn't made worse because I need a cane to walk or my momma didn't hug me enough. He didn't pod the actual me, retired vet, perma-gimp boo hoo backstory, he podded a fake person in a fake ship in a fake world.
Dope or game addiction or depression- none of that has a place on a video game forum. There are professionals for that, and really, anyone that thinks the way the OP expresses, needs just as much help themselves. We;re just easy to lash out at, and trying to blame Eve for one person's personal issues would be shot down immediately by qualified therapists. Why burst that bubble? Just rant at random people on the internet.
Inappropriate, irrelevant, not even coherent. Lock it, delete it, and to all, a good nite. |

Nephilius
Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co.
61
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Posted - 2011.12.03 07:36:00 -
[106] - Quote
Just weak...I'm not surprised that it happened though. People say, "This is Eve, rarr, rabble rabble." Eve is hard, yeah, but its an MMO, real people are involved, people who make friends even in the most openly despicable corps and alliances. The degree we invest in those friendships varies, but in the end, its the same. And for some, those friendships mean a lot. To be betrayed by those you consider friends can sometimes be the straw that broke the camel's back.
I hope everything turns for the best for him and his family, its going to be a long road. I'm glad the offenders are no longer anonymous at least. Surprise, a Nulsec crew. If you bring down a giant, you're a hero. If you kill something weak-even if it has to die-then you will endure contempt. |

Shawnm339
Galactic Shipyards Inc NEM3SIS.
14
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Posted - 2011.12.03 07:51:00 -
[107] - Quote
Xpaulusx wrote:Contacting CCP advertising Dept on any future Box release sets to suggest printing on Box" Do not play under the influence and remember to use brain when playing".
WTF????? Can we just calm down here before we start coming up with rules like that, I'd never be allowed to login
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Adamonus
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.03 10:19:00 -
[108] - Quote
Well here is my story (short version):
- I was asking in german channel for help - I got "helped" via audiochat from an older woman ...and got rid of all my ships. I was told: "this is eve, this is eve!" and that it was my mistake and that a lanugage channel is not a help channel..ok, but extra audiochatting for such purposes is a little bit too much rl for my taste...and its less gamecontent but much more like trying to steal somone elses gamekey of course....for which player usually get banned in other games...Keep in mind if you are speaking to somebody you are talking to a real PERSON - and not to a virtual avatar.
- a few days later I was asking in official help channel some mining questions - SAME people catched me up in the belts and looted my container.
This is much more player created "additional content" - and has nothing to do with ccp ans eve.
At Fanfest 2001, CCP was asking their "f.uck yeah!" - answers from community for questions like : "Do you like spaceships?" ...and less "do you like to betray other player?"
IF CCP cannot handle active player harrasement ( and yes I do feel harrased if same people try to loot me more than serveral days) they should bann them from help channel - and use a CCP moderator in their OFFICIAL HELP CHANNEL.
Such a helpchannel-"quality" in a complex mmo like eve is really cind of ridiculous. |

saltrock0000
Obsessive Compulsive Disasters
9
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Posted - 2011.12.03 10:51:00 -
[109] - Quote
That is a terrible story and I hope the guy in question recovers soon.
Many people would say EvE's a game, deal with it, trust no-one etc etc. But when you think about it, people are investing thier time, energy and life into this game and we need to maybe respect eachother a little more.
I know in the EULA it states that anything in game actualy belongs to CCP blah blah blah but in my eyes anything someone earns hell even buys with isk which may have been funded by buying plex then selling on the market is thier property.
What occured here was malicious theft and hell in some contrys people have thier hands cut off for less. I seriously hope that the all new all careing CCP take harsh action against tho's involved! |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
513

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Posted - 2011.12.03 10:59:00 -
[110] - Quote
Please keep the discussion in the original thread. Thanks!
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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