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NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:14:00 -
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Rabid cat wrote:Do you really believe the the stuff in op really happened???
I'd say 100% bullshit...
I would agree. If you pull an intervention they includes all temptations like the PC.
Yes EVE is brutal bloodsport. Trusting anyone you don't know for real is nuts.
If OP is for real then the forums should already convince you that we can't confirm your story.
Sorry c'est EVE
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Chelone
Outside The Asylum
11
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:19:00 -
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OP what you failed to subsequently realize is the following:
- anyone who would care about your story wouldn't have done this in the first place - many people in Eve will laugh about your story and get great enjoyment over it
Eve is a haven for sociopaths. They want your IRL tears. Your story was entertainment to them. |

Eternus8lux8lucis
Hot Meat Injection
15
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:22:00 -
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Im all for the scam in and of its. But when they found out about the real life situation the in game stuff imo stops. Everywhere in Eve you hear the words " No worries, real life comes first". So in a lot of ways if this is true, which I must say Im still skeptical about which is for me normal especially given the Eve nature, they went to far when the real life circumstances came to light. Their humanity shouldve prevailed but I guess it didnt.
There is such a thing as having the game stop for real life issues.
And as a side note to AKJon....Dude WTF?!?! Are you 12? Be in serious pain for the majority of your day on heavy medication, not being able to sleep or do much because your in constant pain. Now remember the medication your on is as addictive in some cases as ****** or any other street drug but is the only thing to ease the pain, then remember that people react to it differently. But your doctor has made the judgement call that itll let you at least live in a little bit less pain.
I have a buddy whos got some serious issues healthwise. And its horrible to see the **** hes going through. You really need to grow up and grab a brain about real life. This isnt about a junkie that cant control themselves and jonesing for a fix this is a case of pain, way to much REAL pain. Ive played sports all my life, from baseball to boxing and MMA, Ive had to play rugby games on two partially torn achilles tendons because my team needed me. Think of the worst pain youve ever felt and now imagine its PERMANENT. |

Xpaulusx
Hosti1e Traff1c Control
11
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:23:00 -
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What this guy failed to relize is everybody is a potential enemy in this game, even corp members, remember this is EVE in the end everybody is my enemy. Don't be stupid, trust no one. |

Trainwreck McGee
Ghost Ship Inc.
144
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:38:00 -
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i try to keep an emotional distance from EVE so if people become asshats i can just brush it off. CCP Trainwreck - Weekend Custodial Engineer / CCP Necrogoats foot stool |

Evenus Battuta
12
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:50:00 -
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CCP should add this into the advertising like they always did, so people will get nuts to get in EVE just like they always thought. |

looMin uS
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.12.02 03:57:00 -
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My cat has no teeth. it hurts me to see her sitting there with her tounge sticking out her mouth because she has no teeth to hold it back...really sad I tell you. |

Captain Tavius
Picon Fleet New Eden Research.
44
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:03:00 -
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On the one hand you've got people being jerks to someone who deserves a break, on the other you've got EVE players being EVE players (scamming and betrayal is what EVE is after all) and a person in a sensitive situation putting himself in the line of fire.. unwittingly, though.
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Ilinea
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
6
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:03:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:And btw, the wife did the guy a disservice by deliberately ignoring his wishes and giving these griefing sociopaths all of these priceless tears.
Also she's mad at the wrong person. She should be mad at her husband for valuing a few space pixels more than his wife and new baby.
I hope she at least has the good sense not to breed with this guy again.
Btw, abusing an addictive prescription medication (I'm sure he was warned not to take it more often than prescribed) is no different than abusing any other substance. That stuff ain't candy.
Poor kid.
Seriously, this is not about valueing pixels... if you knew anything about human's psychology, you would understand this is about friendships and getting betrayed by those you feel you can trust and value.
Let's stop this "welcome to eve"-bullshit and think a moment about, that some people reach after a specific moment a point, where they would consider someone else, no matter if rl or ingame, as one of their closest friends.
How about everyone stops here bashing on this one guy the OP talks about, which I bet he didn't choice to be in this difficult situation and start critizing what the members of his corp did, when they took advantage of someone's serious rl issues. Don't forget, this are real people playing here with feelings. Just because scamming is a part of eve does it mean, there should be absolutely no borders at all? Seriously, think again!
Does some billions in eve count more than the people behind the screen?
They told me to mine... and I started to mine, the market ;) |

Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
69
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:21:00 -
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This is a work of art.
9/10.
To the rest of you: ah lol. |

Surge Roth
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.12.02 04:28:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:This is what humans are like behind their kind faces, polite words and socially acceptable masks. It's brutal and not pretty at all, and I hope for each and every one of your sakes, that you have learned this sometime in your adult life BEFORE losing pixel assets drives you to an overdose. 
Stop projecting bro. Not EVERYONE is like you. But that's the beauty of being on the internet, huh? You are free to type down whatever it is you believe in.
Even if it's wrong. |

Mirabi Tiane
8
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:02:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:This is what humans are like behind their kind faces, polite words and socially acceptable masks. This. This is the reality. In-person accountability only restrains it. EVE doesn't "make people evil". Proof is in history, and also in modern politics. |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
214
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:07:00 -
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Yes we know you've seen American Psycho and Fight Club I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
214
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:08:00 -
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Some of us are cool guys in real life and awful people in internet space And forums. I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
214
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:10:00 -
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Some of us. I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |

Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
138
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Posted - 2011.12.02 05:55:00 -
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When will we see the first lawsuit over virtual goods, Gamasutra article on Virtual Justice.
I can see this happening eventually with cash shop items because they have been given a real world value by developers. Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |

Zevina
Atomic Core Industries and Science
6
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Posted - 2011.12.02 06:16:00 -
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Thats the reason why I always keep my valuables in high sec stations or safespot cans noone else but me has access to. Joining a corporation is first and foremost to make profit and enjoy a good time together. Anyone entrusting corp mates, even long term "friends" from the internet, with vital assets that might possible decide your ingame future just makes a terrible mistake.
This thread is not only a reminder of sad things happening and mean behaviour towards a person who has already hit rockbottom its also and foremost a reminder to everyone to play this game the smart way and always remember:
NEVER RISK WHAT YOU CANT AFFORD TO LOSE !
EDIT: Btw this might actually be the perfect scam, if the author would ask for some kind financial support for the mistreated and now bankrupt, drug-addicted but still good spirited loving father of a little child. Im sure for such a story, be it true or untrue, there might come in a few billions. |

xynix
Sanctus Vita Lizard Kings
4
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Posted - 2011.12.02 06:23:00 -
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Perhaps he should play WoW |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
155
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Posted - 2011.12.02 07:48:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I write once more that all I ever asked of griefers is that they admit they do it for the grief. I never try to change anybody's game, or tell anybody how to play. Out of courtesy I ask for one shred of honesty.
But a sociapath will always try to lie about their reasons, it's part of being one. I consider myself a pretty mellow and sociable person. I'll help an old lady cross the street, I'll drop a dime into the collection can, and I'll return a lost wallet.
In EVE, I will claw out your still-beating heart, and slowly slice it with a potato peeler in front of your very eyes. I'll make you suffer and squirm, if it suits my own goals. I expect you to do the same. You know why? Because this is a video game about conflict, war, theft, betrayal, and cheating. I enjoy every second of seeing someone suffer in EVE, because I know that in this game, a player can only be a victim of his own stupidity, and not a victim of circumstance.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In RL though, where there is consequence, there is civility. If someone wants to call me names on the internet, I don't care. They can even exercise their First Amendment to my face for all I care. But touch me and I will empty a magazine into them and any friends who are pointing and laughing.
This is why I have not been touched in almost 30 years. Oh, I see. You're one of those internet tough guys. Work out and shoot guns and take MMA classes, bro? Washboard abs and a trophy girlfriend, right? And ain't no one going to **** with your **** 'cause you got it on lockdown?
You remind me of some of the war targets I've had, who opened chats and threatened to hunt me down and kill me in real life. All over some space pixels. That, or a terrible rap song. Take your pick.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:What I wonder most is, are these asshats in MMOs people who do roughly the same in RL and take themselves into the games, or are the asshats in MMOs people who are victims in RL and, having no recourse for revenge and/or justice, come to the game to take it out on someone else?
Maybe that's why griefers don't admit their true intentions. Yeah, okay. I guess you have a degree in psychology too. Must be a tight fit on the mantle, though, what with all the sharpshooting awards you have stacked on it.
What a bunch of tripe. It's pure hypocrisy that someone with your professed real-life attitude toward violence and self-defense would take up such a bleeding-heart attitude towards a game in which shooting other players is the main attraction.
To all the others: you're falling for a troll, though a well-planned one at that. By all means don't stop; I find it hilarious.
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supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
15
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:05:00 -
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Wow all you guys like O wah wah the op had problems.
OMG should we go over like, 1 person dies every 5 seconds... I forget how many are poor in the usa... 43million? or something...
How many people have issues, O wait that is like everyone...
So who really cares? Like, should we all walk around moping all day, thinking about all the people being robbed, killed, dying, poor, hungry, ODing, etc etc etc etc etcccccccccccccc.
lol **** was stolen... welcome to the game of eve... can't deal your problem. Got news for you, if you had some sort of break down whatever, idc, and you were not a good frined in eve... TY FOR THE STUFFZ! I bet I'd take it all...
I've given people to access to TONS of isk... I'm taking a risk, I trust em... if they rob me... O well... that's the game... and if I rob them... lol hehe...
Anyways only retards get scammed so nothing new here lol...
*never* been scammed =D |

Quinc4623
Borg Mining Collective Unimatrix 01 Legion. XIII
4
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:15:00 -
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It's a known factor that people get attached to their MMOs. They make a horrible rug to stand upon, but it helps if no one pulls that out from under you in your time of need. But as noted this is probably more to do with the betrayal.
I mean seriously, why do only people you've met face to face count? If you could take your RL friend's stuff in such a way s/he could never prove it to the prolice, or otherwise get back at you (besides stop being friends of course), would you do that? Apparently the answer is different for an online-only friend. Apparently empathy is an irrational response to looking at a human face. This also explains why people care about actors so much after watching TV all day.
No he didn't do anything stupid. It is quite possible to get into an accident, or hospitalized, or whatever such that you will be pulled away from the game for a long time with no chance to prepare. Accident are like that. Also, most people assume you can possibly get to the point of actually trusting a person, or group of people at some point. Thus he did the did the smart thing of focusing on his real life situation for a good while.
Meanwhile his corp buddies either decided they needed the Super-Capital sooner rather than later, or they got pissed that somebody would dump them to deal with real life, or as the OP suggests, they just did it for *****, giggles, and a good deal of profit.
Of course all this "Well of course they scammed him!" nonsense raises the question: If the average corp has such a high chance of stealing all your stuff, then when is it ever EVER a good idea to join any corporation ever? At least in the case of a POS based corp (which you need to build super capitals if I recall) you MUST trust them with your stuff, at least all the stuff you want to make use of while operating from a POS. Also I know of plenty of people who I can trust with my stuff at any time, anywhere. I'd name them though you might try to scam them somehow.
Yes, I believe this story. If they were asking for money it might be a scam, but lo! they aren't asking for money...just a heavily implied request for revenge. This **** happens all the time in the real world people. Yes stirring up sympathy for whoever this guy is requires noticeable emotional discomfort, but that doesn't somehow justify a knee-jerk "FAKE!!"
No, the guy shouldn't get so emotionally invested in the game, but people shouldn't be constantly betraying their online friends either. |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
155
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:26:00 -
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Quinc4623 wrote:Yes, I believe this story. If they were asking for money it might be a scam, but lo! they aren't asking for money...just a heavily implied request for revenge. This **** happens all the time in the real world people. Yes stirring up sympathy for whoever this guy is requires noticeable emotional discomfort, but that doesn't somehow justify a knee-jerk "FAKE!!" Hello. This must be your first time here. Tours are conducted twice daily. Please keep your hands at your sides, and try to avoid all eye contact with the caged specimens. Do not be alarmed by the inhuman screams of agony, as you will soon get accustomed to them. Enjoy your stay! |

NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises Black Watch.
36
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:30:00 -
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I have to admit i was unsure weather or not to reply to this thread,both because it is very possible its just a troll,and because i know that this is the Eve forums and i will most likely get flamed 
If its not a troll,it is sad to hear that this happend. Weather or not its wrong is something that depends so much on what kind of person you ask. Would i do something like this? Heck no but then again i have refused to even take a t1 mod out of the corp hangar for years due to being blamed for a corp theft once (i was proven innocent and the guy who did steal it returned it all ).
Does it suprise me to hear something like this happening in Eve? No.
Some years back we had a corp member who had cancer. He was on a lot of pain meds,and had trouble reading chats (if you where on voice with him you couldent shut the guy up tho lol). We,the corp members, where all aware of his situation and we did our best to ensure that both him and his wife felt included and safe in the corp.
But others we where involved with dident think the same way. Several alliances gave us the ultimatum that we where not allowed to join unless we removed him from the corp since they did not want "dead weight",others,who first found out of his condition later,made attempts at suecide ganking them while mining because they tought it was a spy due to the fact that they did not get a reply in alliance chat. Trust me there was a lot of drama that followed this just to convinse the alliance to let them stay in the corp. But im sure your wondering whats the point with this?
The corp member in question was in a very bad state,and he could not leave the house,and he was ashamed to let real life friends even see him. Because of this Eve and the corp members was his only real friends exept his wife. She once told me that we made the last few years of his life a lot easier,and better,because he could trust us,and he felt that he actually had friends that he could talk to. We helped him forget the fact that he had cancer.
Im guessing something similar happend in this case...I cant imagion how a betrayal like that must feel when your in such a bad emotional state to begin with. But i still cant say that i jump up and down in rage over the people who did it. It is a game,and this kind of stuff happens a lot. You even have people who will go to threads where someone is making an announcment where someone died and say something like "their biggest wish was to get a titan. Show your respect and donate to the cause. Isk can be sendt to this character". You shake your head over it and think how low it is,but you soon forget about it.
Online games allows people to be what they CANT be in real life,for some people that is assholes,or bullies or whatever you want to call it. Some get it out by scamming noobs,some do it by blowing people up,some do it by abusing another players bad real life situation.
I am sorry it happend,and i do hope he will be ok. And if he wishes to come back to Eve i hope he remembers that even if there are assholes in Eve,there are also good people. But no matter how nice someone seems,remember that they are still just people in an online game. Its very very rare you will find someone who you can trust as much as you would a real life friend. If you dont keep this in mind,the harsh world of Eve will mentally crush you as you get betrayed over and over again.
Regards, NightCrawler |

Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
207
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:32:00 -
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Baden Luskan wrote:Reading stuff like this baffles me. The internet truely shows the dark side of a human being when there is no true accountability for their actions. This is also evident in some of the posts that follow. Taking the OP at face value (I see no reason why they would make this up), this person had in-real-life problems. EVERYONE in this game has had problems at some time or another in thier lives, just most of us not of this magnitude.
What is sickening is the prevailing attitude of "point and laugh" in this game. Its like watching the social behaviors of high school teenagers, but on a world level. So little empathy is displayed here, its quite disheartening. If this stranger was your friend or a loved one, I am sure you would not exibit this kind of behavior, and would be disgusted if someone else did. That being said, have some respect for others. This is a game, but just like any other arena of competition, there is a level of respect everyone that steps into it deserves.
To the OP: I am sorry your friend has had to endure this treatment. Its never easy to deal with the realization that someone you have trusted has betrayed you. Hopefully your friend can get himself collected emotionally and place things in the proper perspective so to allow him to come back to Eve and find a place where he can enjoy his free time. Hopefully karma will come back to bite those that wronged this individual like it often does in real life.
I was going to write something in response, but Baden Luskan summed it up perfectly. Karma is reality and does its thing in its own time, but it happens, of that one can be sure. Being addicted to a prescription drug for the relief of incessant pain is nothing to joke about either. It's so easy for people here to say it's his own fault, to get his life together, to look after his wife and child. How glib, how souless.
To the affected Mother and family - good luck and God bless.
Peace out. o/
The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |

Wibla
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
12
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Posted - 2011.12.02 08:58:00 -
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I'm honestly not sure if this is a troll or not, but I have asked the corp directors in LVSKY about what happened. CEO Tactical Narcotics Team |

Cailais
Rekall Incorporated The Forsaken.
154
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:01:00 -
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tl:dr version
OP got scammed of all his assets. OP makes up some sob story about his 'friend'. OP continues to cry on forums. The end.
C.
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Shinshi Casoyako
Metal Undead Mort's Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:12:00 -
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I fail to grasp the point of the original thread and this thread.
Man does drugs Man goes into rehab Eve is Eve Man returns to Eve Man does drugs Man overdoses Man ends up in Hospital Woman cries on the forums Man survives Eve comminity goes all sympathetic
The fail in this is that the man did drugs, the woman doesnt understand eve and eve community didnt said up a relief fund for this man.
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Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil
48
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:20:00 -
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Where's the "scam" in all this drama?
Idiot shares password, gets his sh*t stolen. Working as intended, EvE is alive.
idgi
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Botleten
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
213
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:21:00 -
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Ok, so you saw a random post and decided to call out someone who has scammed you in the past but has nothing to do with the dude you're refering to  
Proof or GTFO. Using someone else's thread to call out a person you don't like that had nothing to do with anything related to it (while hiding behind an alt) is very pathetic. You should be ashamed of yourself. |

Alexandros Balfros
Liberty Rogues
10
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Posted - 2011.12.02 09:54:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Not really sure why you consider this a new low in scamming TBH, seems like a garden variety, everyday scam to me. 
This^
Now before you all start a rage filled hate on me, firstly we don't even know if the people in EVE were aware of what was going on, all they might have seen was someone go inactive, in which case its a free for all sad to say as they have no idea if he is ever going to come back and play and why waste resources?
As bad as we feel for the person in the OP there isn't a lot we can do, this is a game and the machanics of the game allow for these actions its a harsh place to live.
While we wish the best for the person in the OP i think he needs to realise that this is just a game and these things will happen again no doubt |
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