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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
259
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:15:00 -
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Dradius Calvantia wrote:If one single word of the OP is true... I will eat my space hat.
Does it cost as much as a monocle?
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Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
34
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:22:00 -
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Wow, that's really low. You have to ask yourself what fun can be found from scamming a sick man? You might as well kick puppies for sport.
Yes, this is Eve. I wouldn't trust anyone on Eve unless I knew them in RL and so I could punch them. Or slash a tyre. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
259
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:29:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I write once more that all I ever asked of griefers is that they admit they do it for the grief. I never try to change anybody's game, or tell anybody how to play. Out of courtesy I ask for one shred of honesty.
But a sociapath will always try to lie about their reasons, it's part of being one. I consider myself a pretty mellow and sociable person. I'll help an old lady cross the street, I'll drop a dime into the collection can, and I'll return a lost wallet. In EVE, I will claw out your still-beating heart, and slowly slice it with a potato peeler in front of your very eyes. I'll make you suffer and squirm, if it suits my own goals. I expect you to do the same. You know why? Because this is a video game about conflict, war, theft, betrayal, and cheating. I enjoy every second of seeing someone suffer in EVE, because I know that in this game, a player can only be a victim of his own stupidity, and not a victim of circumstance. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:In RL though, where there is consequence, there is civility. If someone wants to call me names on the internet, I don't care. They can even exercise their First Amendment to my face for all I care. But touch me and I will empty a magazine into them and any friends who are pointing and laughing.
This is why I have not been touched in almost 30 years. Oh, I see. You're one of those internet tough guys. Work out and shoot guns and take MMA classes, bro? Washboard abs and a trophy girlfriend, right? And ain't no one going to **** with your **** 'cause you got it on lockdown? You remind me of some of the war targets I've had, who opened chats and threatened to hunt me down and kill me in real life. All over some space pixels. That, or a terrible rap song. Take your pick. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:What I wonder most is, are these asshats in MMOs people who do roughly the same in RL and take themselves into the games, or are the asshats in MMOs people who are victims in RL and, having no recourse for revenge and/or justice, come to the game to take it out on someone else?
Maybe that's why griefers don't admit their true intentions. Yeah, okay. I guess you have a degree in psychology too. Must be a tight fit on the mantle, though, what with all the sharpshooting awards you have stacked on it. What a bunch of tripe. It's pure hypocrisy that someone with your professed real-life attitude toward violence and self-defense would take up such a bleeding-heart attitude towards a game in which shooting other players is the main attraction. To all the others: you're falling for a troll, though a well-planned one at that. By all means don't stop; I find it hilarious.
I loled.
Wrong on many counts, but I wish you were right about the washboard abs though. The sixpack has eluded me since I was 30, and I am at least down to a fourpack.
As for making threats in a game, never. There are people in the field offices or cop shops who, if I ever did that, would be doing high fives screaming "we have a reason to take him down now!! woo hoo!!". And that's because I am already a war target in RL AND people like yourself, if threatened, would go ninnying to the cops with the "oooh I feel threatened" business just to see someone get busted. I protect myself from people like you in games, and in RL too. In America the "using cops as your personal weapon against others" tactic is quite common so leaving yourself open to that is something that a tactical-minded person remains well aware of in all interactions from games to random RL encounters.
But I have played well enough not to be in a situation to be tempted to make threats - if this game is "Gank and Grief Online" - and could be proven to be only that, then having never been ganked nor griefed since I started in 2006, in spite of all of the time I spend outside of high sec, I must be winning EvE then (again, only if EvE is officially "Gank and Grief Online").
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Satav
Latinum Exports
93
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:37:00 -
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I have 4 things to say to the OP and his friend,
I'm sorry that you had to go through that difficult period in your life. And yes indeed , people even computer players are responsible for being decent.
But the fault isn't entirely with your friend's corp.
(1) Clearly your friend let eve become way to important to him and when he was recovering from rehab it was a mistake for him to rely on a computer game for stability. (2) EvE is a great game but should be remember as only a game.
(3) There is only so much we can do in influence others to make good choices. After that, it's up to us to reactive well, roll with the punches. We can't let others actions dictate our selfworth.
(4) As with any area of life, there are good people and bad people and you need to adopt habits that slowly gravitate the good people to you, no matter how slowly. Fast prosperity = fast poverty.
Although i have respect to the OP and his friend/wife for posting this, i believe that this should not have been posted do to privacy and security reason's. I hope, respectfully that a GM will lock this thread.
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Dervinus
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
24
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:42:00 -
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Guy gets robbed because he is a drug addict
Guy gets robbed by TACTICAL NARCOTICS TEAM
KEYWORD NARCOTICS
If this is real, this is super ironic.
If this is fake, nice troll TNT (or whoever started this). Suprised people didnt put one and one together. |

Kietay Ayari
Monopoly Money Operations
79
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:48:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
In RL though, where there is consequence, there is civility. If someone wants to call me names on the internet, I don't care. They can even exercise their First Amendment to my face for all I care. But touch me and I will empty a magazine into them and any friends who are pointing and laughing.
This is why I have not been touched in almost 30 years.
Aww yeah perfect logic: People who steal fake stuff in a game are sociopaths but if someone touches you in RL you better shoot them and all their friends. Good deal mister!
Ferox #1 |

Astrid Stjerna
Teraa Matar
118
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:50:00 -
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Mortis vonShadow wrote: Hence why the post is all made up. If you really cared about someones welfare, would you be going on a games forums and talking about it?
While I've never had a drug addiction, rehab sometimes isolates you from your family to prevent them from giving you a 'pity fix'. She may not be allowed to go to him. |

Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
354
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Posted - 2011.12.02 16:54:00 -
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This isn't real. If you give the OP sympathy, then you have been hoodwinked. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |

Rabid cat
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.12.02 17:15:00 -
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The story is just missing the part where the original posting is asking for ISK to help the victim to get started again. |

Wibla
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
12
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Posted - 2011.12.02 17:29:00 -
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Dervinus wrote:Guy gets robbed because he is a drug addict
Guy gets robbed by TACTICAL NARCOTICS TEAM
KEYWORD NARCOTICS
If this is real, this is super ironic.
If this is fake, nice troll TNT (or whoever started this). Suprised people didnt put one and one together.
Carebear tears = narcotics  CEO Tactical Narcotics Team |

Cipher Jones
124
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Posted - 2011.12.02 17:35:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:Where's the "scam" in all this drama?
Idiot shares password, gets his sh*t stolen. Working as intended, EvE is alive.
idgi
I asked that on page 2, still waiting for a response.
The only thing I can think of is he had his **** in a POS if he didnt share his pass. In which case NONE of his money would get stolen. AND would also mean he was keeping every egg in one basket.
Sounds like he RMT'd to get his fix IMHO.
Quote:You have to ask yourself what fun can be found from scamming a sick man?
Please, show me the scam. Thanks.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |

Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
407
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Posted - 2011.12.02 17:40:00 -
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Crazy guy plays eve news at 11 |

Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
58
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Posted - 2011.12.02 17:56:00 -
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Mortis vonShadow wrote:This isn't real. If you give the OP sympathy, then you have been hoodwinked.
I'd rather risk being hoodwinked than risk being a complete ********. |

Rabid cat
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.12.02 18:08:00 -
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But guys! This is just like a typical scam letter! I have seen many circulating sob stories like this on the internet! The only thing is that the part where the victim's wife is asking for money is missing.
PS. You can live completely normal life even if you are addicted to pain meds if you can keep taking only what you need (and if the meds really help). Maybe cannabis would have been better pain medication for the victim. |

Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
214
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Posted - 2011.12.02 18:11:00 -
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Esan Vartesa wrote:Mortis vonShadow wrote:This isn't real. If you give the OP sympathy, then you have been hoodwinked. I'd rather risk being hoodwinked than risk being a complete ********.
Don't worry hell doesn't exist, so you're safe as long as no one ever learns about your despicable actions IRL. I live, I post, I slay. I am content. Alpha Flight --á an open-source initiative for newbies looking for PVP. Join channel ''Alpha Flight'' in game https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40104 |

Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
12
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Posted - 2011.12.02 18:36:00 -
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There are no 'friends' in eve, only co-workers. |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
80
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Posted - 2011.12.02 18:39:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:And that's because I am already a war target in RL
I lol'd http://dl.dropbox.com/u/39006524/DumbHiseccers.jpg |

StillBorn CrackBaby
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2011.12.02 18:55:00 -
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Famble wrote:My God, its a GAME!
Leave the personal stuff at the door. Od over pixels, my guess is he would have od'd after watching old yeller. The man's sick, get him help and don't bring that crap to the game. Like we don't get enough of this stuff in real life.
Exactly, this is how EVE works, it just a game geez.... Stupid story....
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A Little Girl
92
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:24:00 -
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Eve is filled with jerks! Except for the people who give me likes. I like them too!  |

Xpaulusx
Hosti1e Traff1c Control
11
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:27:00 -
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Contacting CCP advertising Dept on any future Box release sets to suggest printing on Box" Do not play under the influence and remember to use brain when playing". |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
259
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:45:00 -
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Rabid cat wrote:But guys! This is just like a typical scam letter! I have seen many circulating sob stories like this on the internet! The only thing is that the part where the victim's wife is asking for money is missing.
PS. You can live completely normal life even if you are addicted to pain meds if you can keep taking only what you need (and if the meds really help). Maybe cannabis would have been better pain medication for the victim.
I'd flame you but I have to go help this guy in Nigeria who just emailed me.
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Martyr Theos
The NecroMonger Faith
26
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:46:00 -
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What this tells me is that it was way past time for this person to quit playing games and clean up his act.
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Wacktopia
Sicarius. The Kadeshi
50
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:52:00 -
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Personally I have found that keeping real life and EVE separate is a good idea. If something **** happens in game I don't let it affect my real life and vice versa. |

Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
113
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Posted - 2011.12.02 20:06:00 -
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AkJon Ferguson wrote:And btw, the wife did the guy a disservice by deliberately ignoring his wishes and giving these griefing sociopaths all of these priceless tears.
Also she's mad at the wrong person. She should be mad at her husband for valuing a few space pixels more than his wife and new baby.
I hope she at least has the good sense not to breed with this guy again.
Btw, abusing an addictive prescription medication (I'm sure he was warned not to take it more often than prescribed) is no different than abusing any other substance. That stuff ain't candy.
Poor kid. Ooooh, you'd go over big in Orwellianland. What's amusing about your response is, what goes around comes around. I'd be ready to duck any minute if I were you...fortunately, I'm not. You really should get that sociopathy looked at. It's worse than having a wart on the end of your nose. Really.
To her it doesn't matter much.-á It's chasms have been leapt, and she leans upon the skepticism of her chosen fate. |

Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
354
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Posted - 2011.12.02 20:32:00 -
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This isn't Mortis vonShadow posting, this is his wifes third cousins sister's friend.
After posting on this forum, something really bad happened to him. You see, he's been playing EVE for about 4yrs now and he went off to do something in real life, when real life caught up with him. (He had to go take a shower and a get some sleep as he has a sleeping disorder).
While he was away, some "friends" of his that he says he was close with in this game (cause he doesn't have any friends in real life), came into the area he calls home, and they mined some of the asteroids that he calls his own.
I don't know where people in this game get off, but, when someone has a sleeping disorder and they go get some sleep (finally!), that others think that its okay to come in and just make money off of his stuff.
When he awoke from his slumber, he seemed okay, refreshed even. He came and sat back at his computer, but only after saying hi to his wife and two kids, he went and got in his mining ship, went to mine, and all the rocks were gone from his spot that he says he cultivated for a few years.
Well, now he's back in bed sleeping again! And we're all worried sick that he may actually wake up this time and actually participate with his family. His wife says she can't have that.
So, if you guys could see to it that yous send him whatever it takes to get his wife some freedom, and Mortis back into mining that would be spectacular.
 Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |

Ai Shun
State War Academy Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2011.12.02 21:31:00 -
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I've been contemplating this thread overnight. If this is a scam or not, I don't know. So whether that guy is in rehab or if he is sitting in mom's basement cackling with glee at the responses - it does not matter to me. Because at the end of the day, there is an old saying that my elders tried to teach me many, many years ago.
If you don't have anything nice to say, better to say nothing at all.
I wonder why so many people posting here have lost that basic courtesy. And, by making this post, I have broken that rule as well. |

Juju x
Original Black Plague
1
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Posted - 2011.12.02 21:58:00 -
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This isn't a scam. Scamming is preying on the stupidity of others for profit.
Having sympathy for those with weak minds makes you weak as well. |

Ptraci
3 R Corporation
222
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Posted - 2011.12.02 22:33:00 -
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ESRB Notice:
ONLINE INTERACTION NOT RATED BY THE ESRB
Also, jumping in front of moving freight trains will probably kill you. Now you all better STFU before I accuse you all of cyber-bullying. |

Sara XIII
The Helljumpers
22
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Posted - 2011.12.02 22:54:00 -
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He should try to gain a little perspective.
He's kept his family and lost nothing of real value throughout this bad situation.
If any of this is true.......
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Otto Weston
The TERRA
2
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Posted - 2011.12.02 22:56:00 -
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1-Up Mushroom wrote:Baden Luskan wrote:Reading stuff like this baffles me. The internet truely shows the dark side of a human being when there is no true accountability for their actions. This is also evident in some of the posts that follow. Taking the OP at face value (I see no reason why they would make this up), this person had in-real-life problems. EVERYONE in this game has had problems at some time or another in thier lives, just most of us not of this magnitude.
What is sickening is the prevailing attitude of "point and laugh" in this game. Its like watching the social behaviors of high school teenagers, but on a world level. So little empathy is displayed here, its quite disheartening. If this stranger was your friend or a loved one, I am sure you would not exibit this kind of behavior, and would be disgusted if someone else did. That being said, have some respect for others. This is a game, but just like any other arena of competition, there is a level of respect everyone that steps into it deserves.
To the OP: I am sorry your friend has had to endure this treatment. Its never easy to deal with the realization that someone you have trusted has betrayed you. Hopefully your friend can get himself collected emotionally and place things in the proper perspective so to allow him to come back to Eve and find a place where he can enjoy his free time. Hopefully karma will come back to bite those that wronged this individual like it often does in real life. I feel completely the same way, it just amazes me to see how cold and harsh people are in this game, just because people want to seem tough or since they don't have an accountability as you said they think they can be complete cold and heartless idiots. You pretty much covered the way I feel but come on guys, even if you have zero sympathy for this guy at least be respectful and don't post anything at all.
This^ And **** every bastard who's pointing and laughing. Re:the OP.. you get him back in there, or you could set up your own spy alt.. get into their corp/ alliance and **** em all up from the inside. That, or pay RL money to buy plexes to hire people to **** em over. TNT use only Alpha fleets and are nublets. Everything's Air Droppable at least once. |
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