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Hakuren Shidou
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:43:42 -
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kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ? |
Amak Boma
Dragon Factory
76
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:45:21 -
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was also looking for miner-friendly CSM's but havent found any , most are pvp pve wormhole etc. |
Aiwha
Infinite Point
Nulli Secunda
818
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:45:56 -
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http://match.eve-csm.com/candidates.php
I want to be your representative for CSMX!
Please EVEmail me with any quesitons, comments or concerns you have about myself or EVE.
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jurgen b
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:50:18 -
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Why do you want a CSM that has 1 tought 1 mind, it all end up in endless discussing with no sollution. we need CSM's that can think in chains, because that is how EVE works 1 effects the other and CSM that can think out of the box and representing balance for everyone. everyone i read just talks about 1 part without overthinking the other parts. each lives in his own bubble
i want a CSM that get rid of bubbles  JK |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
15172
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:52:46 -
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Got nothing to do? Then exercise your Democratic right and go vote for the CSM.
My that's a lot of people to chose from, if only there was a way to know which ones to vote for. Well great news, we have done all the hard work for you!
Sion Kumitomo
Endie
Thoric Frosthammer
Manfred Sideous
Bobmon
Bam Stroker
Sort Dragon
Gorga
UAxDEATH
Corebloodbrothers
Corbexx
Steve Ronuken
Sugar Kyle
Tora Bushido
Highsec sperg: But dem alls be nasty nullblob types.
Quite right peasant and its that way for a reason. This is the year that CCP "fixes" sov and all of the above are dedicated to ridding us of the current terrible system and replacing it with one that will;
Reduce goons to one region.
Deal with the 20,000 supers (we arn't kidding, ******* things are everywhere) out there to end their reign of invulnerable **** machines.
Make it worth living in nullsec without blanket nerfs to highsec
Crush T3s beneath the collective heel of their boots
End the reign of the sentry doctrine.
The non voting masses: Why should I bother voting, its not like my vote will matter.
Oh you couldn't be more wrong. By exercising your democratic right and voting for the correct candidates you are making sure not only that **** gets done but that **** gets done right. CCP cannot afford to flunk this test and so they need the best advice possible from the most experienced people in the game.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5176
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Posted - 2015.02.25 13:55:04 -
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Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ? While not directly for miners, your best bet is probably Steve Ronuken as he's very industry focused. If you're exclusively in highsec, Mike Azariah is a good idea too.
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Sara Soda
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:00:55 -
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You tell us who represents the miners and we will all vote for them...miners have rights too!! |
jurgen b
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:03:14 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ? While not directly for miners, your best bet is probably Steve Ronuken as he's very industry focused. If you're exclusively in highsec, Mike Azariah is a good idea too.
To bad you aint running CSM  from all post i have followed so far you seem to have a descent balanced logic about EVE.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1332
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:04:58 -
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*BLINK*
*chokes on something that may or may not be there*
Sabriz is the candidate that supports miners most fully from what I've seen.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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MicDeath Titan
Titans Guild
93
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:13:46 -
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I am the CSM hopeful for miners, I missed the deadlines, because I was too busy mining. |
Lucas Kell
Internet Terrorists
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
5176
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:13:57 -
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jurgen b wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ? While not directly for miners, your best bet is probably Steve Ronuken as he's very industry focused. If you're exclusively in highsec, Mike Azariah is a good idea too. To bad you aint running CSM from all post i have followed so far you seem to have a descent balanced logic about EVE. Heh, I can't even begin to imagine how hard the trolls would troll if I ran for CSM, though it's something I've considered. It's too much time to commit with other responsibilities right now however.
Omar Alharazaad wrote:*BLINK*
*chokes on something that may or may not be there*
Sabriz is the candidate that supports miners most fully from what I've seen. Lol? Sabriz is under the impression that miner should in fact spend the vast majority of their time attempting to fight back (with guns, not with meta) against players who will definitely win against them. Sabriz is literally the worst person a miner could vote for, since he's so biased against their entire playstyle, he'd happily see it removed. I wrote a short review of his campaign, and it's certainly not an uncommon view that Sabriz would be bad for the CSM. Surprisingly, judging by what baltec has put above (I haven't checked yet) Sabriz didn't even make the CFC vote.
The Indecisive Noob - EVE fan blog.
Wholesale Trading - The new bulk trading mailing list.
Chrysus Industries - Savings made simple!
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
CODE.
11914
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:15:14 -
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Sabriz Adoudel is your man-playing-an-in-game-woman.
No CSM member will fight harder for good, honest miners, while punishing the true bad guys of New Eden.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1333
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:32:38 -
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I had a chance to chat with Sabriz a few weeks back. We don't see 100% eye to eye on the mining thing to be honest, but on most salient points we do agree.
Mining isn't a bad thing, and miners are not bad people. The problem really lies in the NPE when it comes down to it. It encourages newblets to do it solo, and to be honest that's a terrible way to mine. By yourself you have to carry the entire burden of a situational awareness and self preservation. It's a royal pain. Back when I still mined it was possibly the single most stress inducing activity I engaged in. Making sure you're aligned, pretargetting the next roids so you could harvest them while they were within range, watching local for spikes and known gankers and mashing D-Scan to detect possible incoming gankers is simply exhausting by yourself. It's so much easier when you've got some buddies to share the burden of keeping an eye out, even moreso if you've got a few bros in ewar ships keeping lookout while you and your crew get your nom on.
Also, doing it solo means the only thing you get to talk to are the rocks, and you REALLY don't want to know what they have to say back.
Fighting back against those who threaten your way of life isn't a bad thing. Method is the issue. Target denial is the soundest approach, as most of those ships aren't really built for brawling. I'd still vote for Sabriz over most of the other candidates... I prefer a risky and exciting high sec over a foam padded one. Without a potential for real loss, can you really enjoy gain?
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2153
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:36:06 -
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What do you expect a mining representative to do?
Why don't you become one yourself? |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
741
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:51:44 -
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Miners don't need a representative. They need a head examination. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:53:58 -
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Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ?
You hardly speak for all miners, so don't post like that.
Rush to danger, wind up nowhere
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Jishi Padecain
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
33
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Posted - 2015.02.25 14:55:47 -
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Confirming Sabriz Adoudel should be #1 on your list.
And this is coming from a miner. |
Richard Tsasa
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:27:39 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:I had a chance to chat with Sabriz a few weeks back. We don't see 100% eye to eye on the mining thing to be honest, but on most salient points we do agree.
Mining isn't a bad thing, and miners are not bad people. The problem really lies in the NPE when it comes down to it. It encourages newblets to do it solo, and to be honest that's a terrible way to mine. By yourself you have to carry the entire burden of a situational awareness and self preservation. It's a royal pain. Back when I still mined it was possibly the single most stress inducing activity I engaged in. Making sure you're aligned, pretargetting the next roids so you could harvest them while they were within range, watching local for spikes and known gankers and mashing D-Scan to detect possible incoming gankers is simply exhausting by yourself. It's so much easier when you've got some buddies to share the burden of keeping an eye out, even moreso if you've got a few bros in ewar ships keeping lookout while you and your crew get your nom on.
Also, doing it solo means the only thing you get to talk to are the rocks, and you REALLY don't want to know what they have to say back.
Fighting back against those who threaten your way of life isn't a bad thing. Method is the issue. Target denial is the soundest approach, as most of those ships aren't really built for brawling. I'd still vote for Sabriz over most of the other candidates... I prefer a risky and exciting high sec over a foam padded one. Without a potential for real loss, can you really enjoy gain?
Solo Mining is and should remain as valid a gameplay choice as Group/Fleet Mining imo and I am looking for Candidates that see it the same way. According you Sabriz does not.
Thanks for the info on Sabriz. After reading you comments I am convinced Sabriz is not one of my choices for CSM.
A Dinosaur on a Spaceship. Imagine that... wait... don't. It's not pretty. (forum alt alert)
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
219
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:33:16 -
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It depends what you desire in terms of support for miners. If you want a candidate to support 'afk' mining with ISBoxer type software use I don't think there will be one. No offence intended there but just a statement of fact.
I recommend you do the questionnaire that is linked on the latest CSM dev blog. It takes a looong time to complete as there are so many questions but if you fill it in honestly it links the best candidates for you.
For miners I think the best CSM candidates are Steve Ronuken & Migui X'hyrrn. Actually they are both in favour of iterating the mining profession which does worry me a little given how so many other professions and elements of the game recently iterated have come out of the process in a bad state. Not sure about Miqui ideas but Steve wants to keep the existing 'point & click' nature of mining currently used while adding other processes to 'reserve' your own stocks of ore and enable better qualities of ore. I actually like his ideas so I think Steve will get our votes.
Interestingly Sabriz Adoudel also supports Steve s mining proposal but she also wants to 'remove' high sec so I would not suggest voting for her.
" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. "-áRick.
" Find out what ? "-áAbraham.
" They're screwing with the wrong people. "-áRick.
Season four.-á-á ' The Walking Dead. ' .
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1334
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:33:30 -
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Solo mining can absolutely be accomplished. My point was that in doing so you are taking on yourself a much heavier burden than you would be when shared with others.
I used to mine solo quite frequently. I quit because it was too stressful. Constantly jamming D-Scan to make sure cats weren't incoming, keeping my roids lined up so I could swap targets as they went out of range... keeping a watchful eye on local for spikes and checking the profiles of new folks showing up in system to make sure they weren't active threats... it's exhausting and leads to chain smoking if that's a vice of yours.
I've never said it wasn't a valid gameplay, i'm just saying that it's quite a bit more dangerous and stressful than mining with others.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
CODE.
11919
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:35:06 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:
I've never said it wasn't a valid gameplay, i'm just saying that it's quite a bit more dangerous and stressful than mining with others.
Nevermind that, if you're going to pay CCP $15 a month to solo mine, you might as well just be playing a Facebook game.
Vote Sabriz. The excitement you need, whether you know it or not.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Felicity Love
Imperium Galactic Navy
2204
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:35:35 -
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Hakuren Shidou wrote:kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ?
Of course, miners should always stand up for themselves, too. While CSM "representation" is a good thing, folks still need to think and act for themselves (more often than not).
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1336
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:37:31 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:
I've never said it wasn't a valid gameplay, i'm just saying that it's quite a bit more dangerous and stressful than mining with others.
Nevermind that, if you're going to pay CCP $15 a month to solo mine, you might as well just be playing a Facebook game. Vote Sabriz. The excitement you need, whether you know it or not.
A solo miner who's doing it right IS playing with others... he's just that quiet kid in the back of the room everyone worries about.
They know what he doesn't know, and that's that he's eventually gonna flip out and kill them all.
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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Josef Djugashvilis
2898
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:38:02 -
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It is a pity that Keath Eaton does not wish to stand for the CSM.
He seems to think that all of the game is important, not just his favourite part.
This is not a signature.
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Dave stark
7391
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:39:35 -
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baltec1 wrote:The non voting masses: Why should I bother voting, its not like my vote will matter.
the actual answer is "freebies". |
La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
199
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:41:09 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Sabriz is the candidate that supports miners most fully from what I've seen.
That one is the most incompent CSM candidate.
He covers almost nothing of New Eden.
Just ganking.
He can not understand anything else.
No miners, no misioniers, no kind of PvE wether in hi-,lo or nullecs.
He thinks the Alliance Tournament is not part of EvE and is in every direction short sighted at best.
No respect or understanding for people with different playstyles than his own.
miners are just good for his kill board.
he denies the importance of the AT for a certain reason...
btw denial of the AT:
What about the "worlds collide"?
Tranquility vs Serenity?
Of course has nothing to do with eve...
at least not with hisec...
So who to vote?
Mike Azariah
Steve Ronuken
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
Forum Main
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
219
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:42:36 -
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People die for the right to vote even in 2015. Make sure you use your right to vote. 
" They're gonna feel pretty stupid when they find out. "-áRick.
" Find out what ? "-áAbraham.
" They're screwing with the wrong people. "-áRick.
Season four.-á-á ' The Walking Dead. ' .
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Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
842
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:44:00 -
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As far as i know and that would be not much Mike A dude in only one who is trying to keep hi sec playground in one piece for newcomers after we all graduate to elite f1 pushers and highest elite pvp available ie shooting new accounts and ganking miners.
So id say check him out maybe hi fits a bil. |
Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1336
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:45:15 -
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La Rynx wrote:Omar Alharazaad wrote:
Sabriz is the candidate that supports miners most fully from what I've seen.
That one is the most incompent CSM candidate. He covers almost nothing of New Eden. Just ganking. He can not understand anything else. No miners, no misioniers, no kind of PvE wether in hi-,lo or nullecs. He thinks the Alliance Tournament is not part of EvE and is in every direction short sighted at best. No respect or understanding for people with different playstyles than his own. miners are just good for his kill board. he denies the importance of the AT for a certain reason... btw denial of the AT: What about the "worlds collide"? Tranquility vs Serenity? Of course has nothing to do with eve... at least not with hisec... So who to vote?
Mike Azariah
Steve Ronuken
You just look like you need a hug.
Not gonna argue with you.
Too drunk to do so coherently anyways.
So here.
have
a
hug
*hug*
It is dark here. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
15178
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Posted - 2015.02.25 15:46:43 -
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La Rynx wrote:
So who to vote?
Why, you vote for the list naturally!
Miners and industrialists of highsec rejoice! Vote for the people on the list and we will get more destruction in nullsec as more people are able to take systems for themselves. More death means a need for more ships, more ships means more minerals needed, more minerals needed means higher prices for the minerals YOU mine.
Vote smart, vote often, follow the list for a better tomorrow.
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
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