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DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:27:00 - [361] Yesterday we broke our kills/loss record (unless there is a late BS loss to be posted). 50 BS killed, 0 BS lost. I guess after the 78-1 this was always going to happen. It will be interesting to see if ASCN keep **ing ships up our killboard. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto**
Krystian Caldari No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:28:00 - [362] Originally by: Hast lets sum it up shall we? 1. I have no life 2. I live in my mums basement 3. I am unemployed 4. I cheat in online games 5. I am a unproductive member of society 6. I most likely run over grannies when I see them (most likely in a stolen car, see above) 7. I now have ADHD, or ADD as it is also known Wow described 99% of 'leet' mmorpg players Any of you guys check out that Southpark episode making fun of WoW? Kinda reminds of this battle.
Game Caldari The Legion.	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:57:00 - [363] Originally by: DB Preacher Yesterday we broke our kills/loss record (unless there is a late BS loss to be posted). 50 BS killed, 0 BS lost. I guess after the 78-1 this was always going to happen. It will be interesting to see if ASCN keep ****ing ships up our killboard. dbp O.o I am sure however there is some kind of statistical trick to make this sound in favour to E.D.F . Maybe along the lines of : While BoB killed 50 Battleships only 2,37 have statistically been flown by E.D.F, of which only 0.087 can actually be in the same system as the kills have occured given the amount of star systems in eve and the amount of members in E.D.F. To conclude only 0.087 E.D.F battleships have been killed , while at the same time E.D.F killed 7 frigates in System Y , which gives us a kill to loss ratio of 7:0,087 beat that BoB! There that does look much better :) I love reading these posts at work , keep em coming
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:58:00 - [364] Originally by: Tzrailasa You're also assuming here that only ASCN looses ships to node crashes, which is not a valid assumption. The ratio generally would not change since both sides would be affected equally. As you guys were picking them off one-by-one after the node crashes, I think you will find the ratio will change significantly. I agree they were silly to log back in one at a time in disorganized fashion, but if what he said is true, thats a LOT of battleships they just got back.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 08:59:00 - [365] Originally by: DB Preacher Yesterday we broke our kills/loss record (unless there is a late BS loss to be posted). 50 BS killed, 0 BS lost. I guess after the 78-1 this was always going to happen. It will be interesting to see if ASCN keep ****ing ships up our killboard. dbp Oh, hats off. That is quite superb. wtf are ASCN playing at? I think their FC's need a long holiday.
BOldMan Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:02:00 - [366] Originally by: Butter Dog wtf are ASCN playing at? Originally by: Oscar W. Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. Great days...
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:03:00 - [367] Edited by: LUKEC on 16/10/2006 09:05:07 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Tzrailasa You're also assuming here that only ASCN looses ships to node crashes, which is not a valid assumption. The ratio generally would not change since both sides would be affected equally. As you guys were picking them off one-by-one after the node crashes, I think you will find the ratio will change significantly. I agree they were silly to log back in one at a time in disorganized fashion, but if what he said is true, thats a LOT of battleships they just got back. There was no lag in past week.They lost less ships only because they decided not to field them. Sig is not eve related Eve related? Copyright of ISD?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:07:00 - [368] Originally by: LUKEC Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Tzrailasa You're also assuming here that only ASCN looses ships to node crashes, which is not a valid assumption. The ratio generally would not change since both sides would be affected equally. As you guys were picking them off one-by-one after the node crashes, I think you will find the ratio will change significantly. I agree they were silly to log back in one at a time in disorganized fashion, but if what he said is true, thats a LOT of battleships they just got back. There was no lag in past week. Learn to read. Lukec, I said 'after the node crashes', didn't I? Which would imply the node crashes you had over a week ago, after which ASCN lost about 200 BS in total. Its those ships I was referring to. Obviously if you have had no node crashes in the past week, I could not be reffering to any events in the past 7 days, could I.
Joe Bloggers Caldari Legion Federation Amen Anera	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:08:00 - [369] Edited by: Joe Bloggers on 16/10/2006 09:08:46 Going by what I read here, ASCN is a defencive alliance, but is currently reverse invading BoB Space. They are camping a BoB System and defending it. I think if you are invading - who should invade all the way, but I am not that knoledgable in fleet pvp. I go as far as quick deaths in my frigs :) But like I asked earlier, as I dont know anything about titans, heck, I dont even know much about battleships, my question was simply if ASCN has secured tcag, and brought their titan up, would that open up the entire bob region to a fleet on demand? Just an Average Joe!
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:10:00 - [370] Originally by: Hast Originally by: DeadDuck Edited by: DeadDuck on 14/10/2006 14:32:03 Edited by: DeadDuck on 14/10/2006 14:29:59 Originally by: End Yourself At least (unlike d2) bob doesn't nap everyone within 100 jumps anymore BD. Oi the north is napped because the ones that didnt want D2+Allies friendship ended dead or tottaly defeated ... thats 8 alliances since April/2006 ... that still doesent change the fact that D2 is napped with everyone... and well, napping everyone and then bandwagoning the rest doesent make it better now does it? Thats total bullcrap Hast and its surprising me that you say that and makes baby woodyy emo-sad again BoB complaining about NAPs is the most ridiculous thing ever regarding your past. Stop this. -------------------------------- Spain ftw!
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:18:00 - [371] Originally by: Joe Bloggers would that open up the entire bob region to a fleet on demand? In theory, but what use is a fleet if you're just going to suicide it?
Tam Chi Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 09:32:00 - [372] Originally by: Tzrailasa Edited by: Tzrailasa on 16/10/2006 04:52:17 Originally by: CEO Pyrex 3. Our kill/loss ration is steadily improving, in the initial parts of the war we where getting our asses handed to us, if you look at the last week (and detract the fake killmails) we come up having lost more BS's, but you have to remember their loadouts is a LOT more expensive than ours... so i declare a tie this week in terms of isk lost. Maybe thats not a point for ASCN, but it sure as hell isnt one for them either. Omg, where does he gets his data from? I just quickly scooped the Battleship kills from the BoB killboard. Yes, I know that some of those (on both sides) are not ASCN, but the large majority are. I also know I should be taking into account HAC's, and I know our lossrates are a bit higher there, but I cba to trawl through our killboard for the data (the BS data is readily acceptabel). BoB BS kills/losses: Monday 09/10: 76/9 Tuesday 10/10: 32/19 Wednesday 11/10: 21/1 Thursday 12/10: 35/9 Friday 13/10: 15/4 (ASCN didn't come out to play all day) Saturday 14/10: 58/2 Sunday 15/10: 50/0 Monday 16/10: 8/0 (Taken at EVE time 04:21) Total: 295/44, or approx 6.7 to 1 Compare this with CEO Pyrex's statement above, and I can only say this: He's right that kill rates are improving...... OUR kill rates If this is loosing, our killboard would crash if we were winning omg! so badly owned that I have to change my pants brb.
fire 59 Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:09:00 - [373] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Tzrailasa You're also assuming here that only ASCN looses ships to node crashes, which is not a valid assumption. The ratio generally would not change since both sides would be affected equally. As you guys were picking them off one-by-one after the node crashes, I think you will find the ratio will change significantly. I agree they were silly to log back in one at a time in disorganized fashion, but if what he said is true, thats a LOT of battleships they just got back. To be fair, they exaggerate the amount they lost due to node crashes, i recall 3 times we gt them fairly hard and then they would stay logged out or do that log on/log off thing. The bulk of kills in this campaign have been from fleetbattles, gang fights and fast paced roaming gang's. We have had loads of small skirmishes all over the place as well which have been infinitely fun. Btw, ascn can never again speak poorly of burn eden because ive seen hardcore stab use and logging out to save pod's etc on a daily basis. Yesterday, i tackled an ascn amarr noobship (forget the name) and it had stab's, couldn't believe it Iron and G eat babie's, my views are my own and do not reflect my corp or my alliance
Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:11:00 - [374] Originally by: McMike Reality check, BOB is invading ASCN space. Thats right...we are told that YOU are on the offensive. Spin it ANYWAY you like, but in light of BOBs performance thus far, at your current pace, I'm guessing ASCN space will fall in a few decades. Whoever told you that is wrong. We're (afaik, and not yet anyway) invading ASCN or anyone else. We're KILLING ASCN, and there is a distinct difference between the two. Please note that BoB (afaik) has not claimed any intention of invading ASCN. Other people have, but not us. My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance.
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:17:00 - [375] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Hast Originally by: DeadDuck Edited by: DeadDuck on 14/10/2006 14:32:03 Edited by: DeadDuck on 14/10/2006 14:29:59 Originally by: End Yourself At least (unlike d2) bob doesn't nap everyone within 100 jumps anymore BD. Oi the north is napped because the ones that didnt want D2+Allies friendship ended dead or tottaly defeated ... thats 8 alliances since April/2006 ... that still doesent change the fact that D2 is napped with everyone... and well, napping everyone and then bandwagoning the rest doesent make it better now does it? Thats total bullcrap Hast and its surprising me that you say that and makes baby woodyy emo-sad again BoB complaining about NAPs is the most ridiculous thing ever regarding your past. Stop this. True Hurt you ,huh? The Tau Ceti Federation, proudly *** off the Northern Coalition till 2006*
Jiara Castoumi Caldari Contract Accountancy Service	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:19:00 - [376] Err has anyone actually looked at the map recently? No didnt think so :/ TCAG-3 Sovrienty Taken today 11:16 BST So considering everyones crying over sovriegnty, you can all stop :/ - Contract Accountancy Service -
BlackRain Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:20:00 - [377] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Stop this. stops stroking Woody :\ ------------------- Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected]) -
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:30:00 - [378] Woody I'll make you a new owl when I get home tonight.. <3 .... Real men use blasters
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:33:00 - [379] Originally by: Jiara Castoumi Err has anyone actually looked at the map recently? No didnt think so :/ TCAG-3 Sovrienty Taken today 11:16 BST So considering everyones crying over sovriegnty, you can all stop :/ Yeah, everyone knows. Claiming sov in an empty system requires a control tower to be fuelled and anchored. Nothing more. If you formed an alliance, and placed a couple of large POS there, you could claim sov yourself. What does it mean? A fuel saving. Nothing more. Now, if sov changes on outpost systems... thats a different kettle of fish.
Durethia Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:37:00 - [380] Originally by: fire 59 We have had loads of small skirmishes all over the place as well which have been infinitely fun. Btw, ascn can never again speak poorly of burn eden because ive seen hardcore stab use and logging out to save pod's etc on a daily basis. Yesterday, i tackled an ascn amarr noobship (forget the name) and it had stab's, couldn't believe it Don't forget the BMs in the cargo holds.
TURBOman Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:43:00 - [381] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Jiara Castoumi Err has anyone actually looked at the map recently? No didnt think so :/ TCAG-3 Sovrienty Taken today 11:16 BST So considering everyones crying over sovriegnty, you can all stop :/ Yeah, everyone knows. Claiming sov in an empty system requires a control tower to be fuelled and anchored. Nothing more. If you formed an alliance, and placed a couple of large POS there, you could claim sov yourself. What does it mean? A fuel saving. Nothing more. Now, if sov changes on outpost systems... thats a different kettle of fish. Tell us butter... What exactley makes you qualified to talk about these things? Where were you even remotley close to the things you are talking about with such confidence? Mods won't let me keep my sigs :S
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:46:00 - [382] Originally by: TURBOman Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Jiara Castoumi Err has anyone actually looked at the map recently? No didnt think so :/ TCAG-3 Sovrienty Taken today 11:16 BST So considering everyones crying over sovriegnty, you can all stop :/ Yeah, everyone knows. Claiming sov in an empty system requires a control tower to be fuelled and anchored. Nothing more. If you formed an alliance, and placed a couple of large POS there, you could claim sov yourself. What does it mean? A fuel saving. Nothing more. Now, if sov changes on outpost systems... thats a different kettle of fish. Tell us butter... What exactley makes you qualified to talk about these things? Where were you even remotley close to the things you are talking about with such confidence? I didnt think I was stating anything particularly controversial. Simply talked about game mechanics. If there are any factual inaccuracies, please do correct me.
TURBOman Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:48:00 - [383] Ok, so by your theory, ASCN lost sov because of them being unable to fuel their pos, and anyone that shows enough dedication to fuel their pos can hold sov in bob region? Even with bob capital and bs fleet right next door? Think about what u're saying... Mods won't let me keep my sigs :S
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:49:00 - [384] Originally by: TURBOman Ok, so by your theory, ASCN lost sov because of them being unable to fuel their pos, and anyone that shows enough dedication to fuel their pos can hold sov in bob region? Even with bob capital and bs fleet right next door? Think about what u're saying... Now you're just flaming for the sake of it. I didnt say any such things.
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:51:00 - [385] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: TURBOman Ok, so by your theory, ASCN lost sov because of them being unable to fuel their pos, and anyone that shows enough dedication to fuel their pos can hold sov in bob region? Even with bob capital and bs fleet right next door? Think about what u're saying... Now you're just flaming for the sake of it. I didnt say any such things. no u just in genral talk utter crap. wonder when ull stop u fanboi thing and move on. The Rules is a disgrace for Minmatar
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.16 10:57:00 - [386] Originally by: Sir JoJo Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: TURBOman Ok, so by your theory, ASCN lost sov because of them being unable to fuel their pos, and anyone that shows enough dedication to fuel their pos can hold sov in bob region? Even with bob capital and bs fleet right next door? Think about what u're saying... Now you're just flaming for the sake of it. I didnt say any such things. no u just in genral talk utter crap. wonder when ull stop u fanboi thing and move on. Okay, so I explain why sov changes in empty systems from a game mechanic perspective are relatively unimportant (to a third party), and this makes me a fanboi who is talking utter crap? lol, okay Mr Troll, whatever you say. Same tired old line from the same tired old people. Your forum warriors are really no match for even a barely reasoned arguement. Oh no, wait, 9 more of you will jump on the thread now calling me a 'fanboi' (whatever that is). I better go and weep quietly in the corner.
Abriana Overlord Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:15:00 - [387] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Sir JoJo Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: TURBOman Ok, so by your theory, ASCN lost sov because of them being unable to fuel their pos, and anyone that shows enough dedication to fuel their pos can hold sov in bob region? Even with bob capital and bs fleet right next door? Think about what u're saying... Now you're just flaming for the sake of it. I didnt say any such things. no u just in genral talk utter crap. wonder when ull stop u fanboi thing and move on. Okay, so I explain why sov changes in empty systems from a game mechanic perspective are relatively unimportant (to a third party), and this makes me a fanboi who is talking utter crap? lol, okay Mr Troll, whatever you say. Same tired old line from the same tired old people. Your forum warriors are really no match for even a barely reasoned arguement. Oh no, wait, 9 more of you will jump on the thread now calling me a 'fanboi' (whatever that is). I better go and weep quietly in the corner. Behave or we will set rod and digital on you
Auman Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:17:00 - [388] Edited by: Auman on 16/10/2006 11:17:36 Originally by: Jiara Castoumi Err has anyone actually looked at the map recently? No didnt think so :/ TCAG-3 Sovrienty Taken today 11:16 BST So considering everyones crying over sovriegnty, you can all stop :/ Yup we took down 2 ASCN POS (I think it's 2) over the weekend. There was some resistance but it wasn't co-ordinated and none of our cap ships were in any danger. Kudos to ASCN for trying to break the siege. /edit spelling Sig is not eve related - please see the RULES - Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc ([email protected])
Fi T'Zeh Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:25:00 - [389] Evolution pilots will cease feeding the troll. .... Real men use blasters
Joe Bloggers Caldari Legion Federation Amen Anera	Posted - 2006.10.16 11:26:00 - [390] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Joe Bloggers would that open up the entire bob region to a fleet on demand? In theory, but what use is a fleet if you're just going to suicide it? I would assume that, going by these posts, that bob concentrate all their fleets in one location to fend off ASCN. But if ASCN secure tcag, then can jump portal there entire force to a quiet system with a station, drop these pos's and then jump back undisturbed. Am I wrong in this thinking? Just an Average Joe!

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