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Tzrailasa Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:13:00 - [211] Originally by: Nira Li Can't wait for the next CYVOK blog post Yeah, me too Everytime Cyvok posts one of his 'morale' blogs, they REALLY do work..... At least BoB's morale go up by 20 percent (of.c. our combat capability goes down temporarily because we're rofl'ing).
Seth Quantix Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:19:00 - [212] Edited by: Seth Quantix on 14/10/2006 10:21:02 Why can't ASCN just admitt that they lack planning, skill and leadership and this is the reason for there unbeliavable daily losses. The sooner they do this the sooner they might not loose so many ships to bad leadership and stupid decisions. The capital ship died because ASCN fail to realise that unlike them we will fight even if we have 50% ther numbers as we know they can't handle a hostile fleet half there size because many of there players are in it for them self and won't stick around and help the other team mates in need. Bad planning and poor leadership 4tl.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:22:00 - [213] Originally by: Riddari I was tanking you lot while out of siege. He asked several minutes before he blew up if he should relog because his client froze up. We said no, hoping it would kick back in. Good job on spinning this one though, too bad you don't have the teamspeak recordings so you can verify this. BOB SPIN MACHINE OVERDRIVE NOW ONLINE It died did it not ? And you were fine and managed to warp away correct ? lol so it wasnt the servers hence no reimburshment should be made and what does that make it ? A KILL \o/
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:23:00 - [214] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Louisa Torres Ask the old residents of paragon soul just how "industrial" ASCN are. There is no such thing, I'm afraid - in fact I'd be willing to put our own industrial output up against ASCN any day of the week. Now you're just talking pure unadulterated BS. ASCN is a diverse alliance with some PvP elements, however everyone reading this forum (including you) knows they are predominantly industrial in nature, unlike your alliance. So fine, if you want a fair comparison, bring all your industrial alt corps into the BoB alliance and then see how your kill/loss starts to look. Of course Butter Dog, because you're as familiar with BoB industrial workings as I am with ASCN. Sure, of course you are. p.s. There is only one BoB "alt" corp outside of the IGA, please try harder next time.
Vince Draken Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:40:00 - [215] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Louisa Torres Ask the old residents of paragon soul just how "industrial" ASCN are. There is no such thing, I'm afraid - in fact I'd be willing to put our own industrial output up against ASCN any day of the week. Now you're just talking pure unadulterated BS. ASCN is a diverse alliance with some PvP elements, however everyone reading this forum (including you) knows they are predominantly industrial in nature, unlike your alliance. So fine, if you want a fair comparison, bring all your industrial alt corps into the BoB alliance and then see how your kill/loss starts to look. It just goes to show why you don't understand BOB. ASCN, while they do have some pvp'ers also have FAR more what I would call freeloaders. These are the types out for personal enrichement, the types that don;t show up for pvp unless at gun point. I'd HARDLY classify that as an industrial plus. If you want to talk abotu raw minerals mined per alliance, ASCN wins hands down. But, inudustry is much more than mining in todays Eve. I've seen (thx to owning shares) what t2 CLS has, DICE has more I can promise you that. It's pure and simple, BOB = Industrial->kill, ASCN = Industrial->self. Granted this isn't 100% accurate, but overall I can promise you it is. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:44:00 - [216] Sorry, are BoB members actually trying to argue that they are an Industrial alliance, and that ASCN is a PvP one? This is getting really funny If you want to brag about kill/loss, go on the warpath with D2 or AAA. Then, you would have a good reason to brag. As it is, you don't. It another Goon/Huzzah/Aridia locals type ego-boosting slaughter. If you want a well done, you've come to the wrong place. No-one outside your own alliance is impressed this time.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:45:00 - [217] Im quite proud of BNC's industry base as well, pretty sure we squeeze out alot more t2 stuff etc then most of the alliances ingame but our Industrialist also kick ass in PVP and quite enjoy keeling stuff. So yeah we may not have the number ASCN has but all our players are pvp'rs and our industry is strong.. freeloaders dont last long in BoB.
Seth Quantix Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:50:00 - [218] Originally by: Butter Dog Sorry, are BoB members actually trying to argue that they are an Industrial alliance, and that ASCN is a PvP one? This is getting really funny If you want to brag about kill/loss, go on the warpath with D2 or AAA. Then, you would have a good reason to brag. As it is, you don't. It another Goon/Huzzah/Aridia locals type ego-boosting slaughter. If you want a well done, you've come to the wrong place. No-one outside your own alliance is impressed this time. And you are?
Vince Draken Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:52:00 - [219] Originally by: Butter Dog Sorry, are BoB members actually trying to argue that they are an Industrial alliance, and that ASCN is a PvP one? Are you really that narrow minded? I jsut explained it to you, but I guess it went right over your head. I can understand though because you can't fathom that a pvp alliance could also be good at the rest of eve. Originally by: Butter Dog This is getting really funny Yes, I agree. Your never ending hardon for bob is quite humerous. The fact that you cannot comprehend how we work is equally comical. Originally by: Butter Dog If you want to brag about kill/loss, go on the warpath with D2 or AAA. Then, you would have a good reason to brag. As it is, you don't. It another Goon/Huzzah/Aridia locals type ego-boosting slaughter. Oh my, you know I heard something similar when we went after the goons. Only it was go attack someone else strong liek ASCN or D2. We choose ASCN for geographical purposes and the challenge. You Mr. Failure of ISS can contiune to berate ASCN and company for all I care. But, if we had gunned for D2 (which is another north vs south *ness) retards liek you would being saying 'why not go after ascn, are you afraid to fight somene on your borders?'. It really is a tiresome record you keep spining. Originally by:** Butter Dog If you want a well done, you've come to the wrong place. No-one outside your own alliance is impressed this time. Haven't we already said numerous times we don't care what you or anyone else thinks? I thought I typed that a few posts ago. Sadly, as with everything else it went right over your head. The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such.
Kryztal Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 10:52:00 - [220] Originally by: Butter Dog Sorry, are BoB members actually trying to argue that they are an Industrial alliance, and that ASCN is a PvP one? This is getting really funny If you want to brag about kill/loss, go on the warpath with D2 or AAA. Then, you would have a good reason to brag. As it is, you don't. It another Goon/Huzzah/Aridia locals type ego-boosting slaughter. If you want a well done, you've come to the wrong place. No-one outside your own alliance is impressed this time. ROFL, thats just class. Now your saying AAA are better pvp'rs then ASCN and you want us to go after D2 again ? lol weve done it so many times and im quite happy to fight someone else. Also D2 are having fun down south as well so im sure we'll be getting in some fights while they are down here so no worries we will be fighting real pvp'rs. You amaze me though Bitter Dog, atleast all other Fanbois were "defending" our target at the time they were flaming us on the forums but you seem to just hate us so much that you attack our targets as well. LoL keep it up, you still have a long way to go to become the leader of the Fanbois.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:17:00 - [221] I understand perfectly well that you have a well developed industrial side to your alliance. That is pretty common knowledge. However, what is it you are claiming here? Are you a PvP alliance by nature or not? How would you class ASCN? You see, its really quite simple. You go after a fat, mainly industrial target where good kill/loss ratios are virtually guarenteed. You then boast about kill/loss ratios LIKE ITS A SUPRISE. This is the result everyone, even ASCN, expected. So to claim otherwise is laughable.
Hackett Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:18:00 - [222] Originally by: Butter Dog Sorry, are BoB members actually trying to argue that they are an Industrial alliance, and that ASCN is a PvP one? This is getting really funny If you want to brag about kill/loss, go on the warpath with D2 or AAA. Then, you would have a good reason to brag. As it is, you don't. It another Goon/Huzzah/Aridia locals type ego-boosting slaughter. If you want a well done, you've come to the wrong place. No-one outside your own alliance is impressed this time. So as you know so much about the inner workings of an alliance you don't belong to perhaps you would care to enlighten everyone with your fact based knowledge -I know I am as keen as everyone else for you to explain exactly what it is we do and dont get up to. /me imagines Butter Dog sitting at his keyboard with his face purple, fists shaking in impotent rage.... http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9813/evolhackett6ln.gif Please keep your signature below the 24000 bytes limit.- Thx Pirlouit
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:21:00 - [223] Originally by: Butter Dog I understand perfectly well that you have a well developed industrial side to your alliance. That is pretty common knowledge. However, what is it you are claiming here? Are you a PvP alliance by nature or not? How would you class ASCN? You see, its really quite simple. You go after a fat, mainly industrial target where good kill/loss ratios are virtually guarenteed. You then boast about kill/loss ratios LIKE ITS A SUPRISE. This is the result everyone, even ASCN, expected. So to claim otherwise is laughable. We are not a PvP alliance. We are not an industrial alliance. We are BoB. There is no part of this game we do not play. For you to claim that there are "more worthy", "more testing" targets around around is displaying a substantial lack of understanding of the game of EvE and the ethic of BoB. We do everything for a reason and because you can't work out what that is it frustrates you to the point that you follow us around and constantly lambast whatever we decide to do. If we had gone after aAa (catch sucks btw) you'd say "omg pick on somebody your own size", now that we're going after the biggest alliance in the game you say "omg pick on people that can fight". You really need to pick an angle and stick to it, Bitter Dog, because despite your claims of how WE look, there is only one person here spending more time spewing garbage on the forums, and as is quite obvious - that isn't us.
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:21:00 - [224] Originally by: Butter Dog Sorry, are BoB members actually trying to argue that they are an Industrial alliance, and that ASCN is a PvP one? This is getting really funny If you want to brag about kill/loss, go on the warpath with D2 or AAA. Then, you would have a good reason to brag. As it is, you don't. It another Goon/Huzzah/Aridia locals type ego-boosting slaughter. If you want a well done, you've come to the wrong place. No-one outside your own alliance is impressed this time. Usually everyone attacked by bob turns into an industrial alliance to defend itself morally. FA was one of the major 5 players early eve saw. When it got attacked it was "buhu were industrial". Xetic was a major player in the post CA time and stuck there nose in every agreement made in the south. Yet when they got attacked by 5 they cried "buhu we are industrial". When G / Iron got attacked while attacking Ascn (Frontline troops left home) both stated "buhuu those are our industry guys ure killing". When Trust was killed by Ascn and BoB (they merged into D2 lateron) everyone said "doh they are industrial". Please name me 5 major spacecontrolling non industrial alliances in eve. You simply cant because every alliance needs a backbone to build ships, to freighter around goods, to fuel towers, to generate isk (for all the fine pos and capital stuff) and to replace losses against attackers. The secret of eve is that its not unique to have multiple characters which can be good in very different areas. As for bobs industrial side, there was a whine not long ago that bob had a t2 bpo of nearly everything and that they can produce every hac, commandship, reconship, interceptor at costprice. How do you do that without industrial backbone ? Frankly said the forums were filled with buzzing about the "clash of the titans" now that we have it and it is a rough ride for Ascn every fanboy calls them industrial alliance and puts up a new titan bob is supposed to challenge. BoB is fighting parts of the same coalition which fought RA and noone moaned about. How can it be fair for 4+ alliances to team up against RA while its unfair for BoB to attack 1 which gets immideately supported by 3 others (POS, Axe and partly LV / VI / Huzzah remains?)? The conclusion is: "butter dog your argument just got shot out of the sky, youre the one who is funny".
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:22:00 - [225] Originally by: Hackett /me imagines Butter Dog sitting at his keyboard with his face purple, fists shaking in impotent rage.... Hehe. Well, I enjoy the forum, and I love the fact BoB are so easy to wind up. Do I like ASCN? Not really. They need someone to shake them up. But my God, I prefer them to you guys. You are so smacktardy and disrespectful to others, I really fail to see why you bother posting on a public forum if you cannot take a bit of constructive criticism from outside observers. If you don't want people who are not involved to comment, keep your circle-jerks on your private forum.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:23:00 - [226] Originally by: Louisa Torres We are not a PvP alliance. We are not an industrial alliance. We are BoB. There is no part of this game we do not play. This is the sort of meaningless BoB post which makes me smile. Yeah, because no other alliance in EVE PvPs and has an industrial backbone
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:26:00 - [227] Originally by: Louisa Torres there is only one person here spending more time spewing garbage on the forums, and as is quite obvious - that isn't us. I spend about 1 hour a day browsing the forums. Can't say the same for some members of your alliance.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:28:00 - [228] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Louisa Torres there is only one person here spending more time spewing garbage on the forums, and as is quite obvious - that isn't us. I spend about 1 hour a day browsing the forums. Can't say the same for some members of your alliance. Is that total accumulated time? Because anybody that reads these forums knows you post continuous drivel across at least 5 hours of every day.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:29:00 - [229] Edited by: Avon on 14/10/2006 11:33:05 Butter Dog, you really need to chill out a little and stop trying to execute a rather poor point scoring exercise. Let's just sum it up right here. BoB > You You = Bitter There. Now, if you would like to disprove that, you can do it in one of two ways. Either: a/ Defeat BoB or b/ Stop posting. Until you actually manage to do something in game to give you an ounce of credibility, you will have to expect that people may not give your words the weight you feel they deserve. I know that is frustrating for you, but ultimately here, in this part of the forums, you are a nobody. Harsh, but true. Anyway, thanks for your interest in our alliance, and spending so much of your valuable time expressing that interest. When you have something valuable, insightful, or factual to say, please hurry back. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:29:00 - [230] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Louisa Torres We are not a PvP alliance. We are not an industrial alliance. We are BoB. There is no part of this game we do not play. This is the sort of meaningless BoB post which makes me smile. Yeah, because no other alliance in EVE PvPs and has an industrial backbone Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you were either one or the other, according to Bitter Dog? Make up your mind please, are we attacking an industrial alliance, a pvp alliance, or is it just a 0.0 alliance?
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:29:00 - [231] Originally by: Butter Dog Hehe. Well, I enjoy the forum, and I love the fact BoB are so easy to wind up. Do I like ASCN? Not really. They need someone to shake them up.. If posting tough on the forums to wind someone more successfull up is your way to "winning eve" go ahead. For those who play the game via the client it doesnt matter much if you "showed them" on the forums. Afterall they can login and do something about it. You on the otherhand can spit bollox about bob all day but we both know u cant challenge them or defeat them. You know the saying about dogs barking and not biting etc...
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:31:00 - [232] Originally by: Eskalin can i be emo if i post? No. The only real EMO in here is mezOr! -------------------------------- Spain ftw!
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:31:00 - [233] Edited by: Kcel Chim on 14/10/2006 11:31:50 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Louisa Torres there is only one person here spending more time spewing garbage on the forums, and as is quite obvious - that isn't us. I spend about 1 hour a day browsing the forums. Can't say the same for some members of your alliance. you started today atleast at 9.49 which is 1 page back, now its 11.30. Lying anyone ?
Hackett Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:35:00 - [234] Edited by: Hackett on 14/10/2006 11:35:06 Originally by: Butter Dog If you don't want people who are not involved to comment, keep your circle-jerks on your private forum. On the contrary please continue - you are providing me with no end of amusement. And I lol at your chars haircut everytime I see it :P http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/9813/evolhackett6ln.gif Please keep your signature below the 24000 bytes limit.- Thx Pirlouit
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:36:00 - [235] Originally by: Butter Dog I WILL NEVER LEARN TO PUT MORE QUOTES THEN ONE IN TO SINGLE POST. ANYBODY HAVE CURE FOR THAT?.....hmm...pardon me...I PREFER tO SPAM RANDOMLY IF YOU SEE ME WHINING OR NERVOUS THEN THERE ARE IDIOTS NEAR BY
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:36:00 - [236] Originally by: Butter Dog I understand perfectly well that you have a well developed industrial side to your alliance. That is pretty common knowledge. However, what is it you are claiming here? Are you a PvP alliance by nature or not? How would you class ASCN? You see, its really quite simple. You go after a fat, mainly industrial target where good kill/loss ratios are virtually guarenteed. You then boast about kill/loss ratios LIKE ITS A SUPRISE. This is the result everyone, even ASCN, expected. So to claim otherwise is laughable. There really is no point in having any kind of serious discussion with some people (namely you at the moment Butter Dog). Everyone we fight has an excuse, and every time we fight there's a reason why our success should really be seen as a failure. It really is getting ridiculous. As an alliance, we got to the point where we wanted a real fight, something of epic proportions for us and the community as a whole to get into. We pick the largest alliance in game, the most highly defended space, and an alliance that has one of the largest industrial engines in existance. An alliance that steam rolled another alliance out of two regions in a matter of days. Then... We get smacked for picking that target because apparently it's a "fat, mainly industrial target". There are plenty of characters on both sides of this war, many which I've had the pleasure of chatting (or arguing) with over the last couple of weeks. I've honestly enjoyed the great social experiment that is EVE as much as I have the fighting, except for one particular serial troll. I'm done reading your worthless posts. When we see you down here on the frontline, sharing some of your apparently limitless knowledge on EVE warfare with ASCN, perhaps we can take you seriously. Your signature is inappropriate ( copyrighted material). - Tirg ^^ Might want to confirm that chief.
Ficti0n FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:36:00 - [237] Edited by: Ficti0n on 14/10/2006 11:36:16 Come on and jump in my car. Its way too far to walk on your own.
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:38:00 - [238] Edited by: Avon on 14/10/2006 11:40:20 Originally by: Ab Initio When we see you down here on the frontline, sharing some of your apparently limitless knowledge on EVE warfare with ASCN, perhaps we can take you seriously. Jeez, that is harsh. ASCN have enough problems without BD lending a helping hand. I know they need some new FC's, but not even I'd wish BD on them. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Duke Kell Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:51:00 - [239] Originally by: Darcuese Originally by: Butter Dog I WILL NEVER LEARN TO PUT MORE QUOTES THEN ONE IN TO SINGLE POST. ANYBODY HAVE CURE FOR THAT?.....hmm...pardon me...I PREFER tO SPAM RANDOMLY dude,just open a second browser, and copy and pase the texts in the white box once you quote someone, paste everything back on the main browser. Btw this is Roxanna Kell.
End Yourself Core Domination	Posted - 2006.10.14 11:55:00 - [240] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Louisa Torres We are not a PvP alliance. We are not an industrial alliance. We are BoB. There is no part of this game we do not play. This is the sort of meaningless BoB post which makes me smile. Yeah, because no other alliance in EVE PvPs and has an industrial backbone The post wasn't meaningless BD, you just did NOT understand it and that made me smile(once again). Bob does NOT claim/think to be a pure/the_best pvp alliance. NOR do they claim/think to be a pure/the_best industrial alliance. They claim/think they are taking part in EVERY part of this game(pvp, inudstrial, whorums...) and they also claim to be "the best overall alliance". Can hardly say if they are the best. Would be hard to measure even if you had indepth knowledge about all the big players. BUT denying the fact that BoB is active in all parts of this game is something which just makes you look retarded. And that they are one of the stronger/strongest alliances out there is out of discussion as well in my opinion. Same goes for ASCN btw. Interesting times ahead. ASCN should thank BoB for trimming their deadweight to be honest. After they woke up, opened their eyes, stopped blaming everyone else for their own incompetence.... and saved their home that is. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.

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