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Bluemoon
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Posted - 2003.10.31 06:17:00 -
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Just recently a disgruntled employee of Techell corp, left the corp, taking with him billions of dollers in goods (mostly ships).
In the interview I read on Eve Guardian.com He seems rather unremorseful, almost proud.
I wonder what other Eve citizens think of this incident. Ok, well other than the need to trust no one, and all the calls for ccp action (lets agree to leave those out of this thread please), but let us rather focus on the act of betrayal. How do you feel about this action that was taken? How do think other eve citizens should treat him. Basically do you approve of this, or disapprove of it.
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Zena
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Posted - 2003.10.31 06:34:00 -
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I think its crap. This guy should be 8-balled from the community.
Ya its only a game, but whatever happened to good sportsmanship, honor, and morals??
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Master Scy
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Posted - 2003.10.31 06:38:00 -
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but whatever happened to good sportsmanship, honor, and morals??
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Bobby Wilson
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Posted - 2003.10.31 06:41:00 -
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I personally am indiffent to Techell, no offense but I am sure they can afford a loss. They actually discovered the maximum ammount of Trit you can put in 1 stack, I forget the exact number but regardless they are far from cleaned out, they in fact own pretty much every BP original in the game and AFAIK lost none of those.
No comparison to corps that got ripped off for their BPs.
As for how to treat the man, he joined a pirate corporation and isn't asking to be treated like a saint or a businessman. I suggest you treat him how you treat pirates generally. Either avoid him, run from him or attack them.
I still do not understand what kind of free market economy CCP think can be simulated without integrity of private property (within secure empire anyways), legally binding contracts and penalties for fraud.
I would have thought long ago the black market would be out, and I would have thought that stolen items would/could be branded as stolen and only possible to be sold via the black market. As it is now you can repackage any ship, with any history of ownship or whatever and it's just another identical ship.
I bet I'll never know if by chance I do end up accidently buying one of his ships until the transaction is made...
BW
Originally by: Selim
Cool, congrats.
Oh, stupid idea by the way.
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Goldar Hektu
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Posted - 2003.10.31 07:56:00 -
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Would hate if it happened to me, but I can't really say I have a problem with it. If I can accept PK "pirates," and can looting, I can accept mega corps getting ripped off for billions.
CEOs who ignore middle management probably shouldn't expect any different when there aren't any legal penalties for theft.
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loladoll
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Posted - 2003.10.31 08:05:00 -
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If I look at te movies I have seen recently, a lot of them where about the heroism of theft. Who doesnt remember Tom Cruise hanging from threads and STEALING
Its just part of our culture I guess
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.10.31 09:33:00 -
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So, in Techell's ranking structure, how high up was Falzone?
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Laven
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Posted - 2003.10.31 10:02:00 -
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Players steal from other players by destroying their ships, or players steal from players by emptying out hangers. I am not sure I see a difference, a thief is always a thief.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2003.10.31 10:23:00 -
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this is too funny actualy
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Kin Hanyerec
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Posted - 2003.10.31 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kin Hanyerec on 31/10/2003 11:48:55
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So, in Techell's ranking structure, how high up was Falzone?
As i know from techell's hierarchy there are only 2 levels... The CEOs(who quit, or are in holidays, or doing something else), and the others who trade stuff with the CEOs.
In fact only the CEOs have access to BP and main stuff, so the thief probably stole stuff from members who carelessly put minerals in a corp hangar, but probably not from the corp.
It wouldn't surprise me if Techell will implose in a near future... thx moo 
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Chromosphere
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Posted - 2003.10.31 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: Chromosphere on 31/10/2003 13:21:07
Got to agree, its strange to see such a large and apparently successful corp fall on its knees cos it can't control its own members
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.10.31 13:23:00 -
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falzone is my best friend now, so dont mess with him!
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Beringe
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Posted - 2003.10.31 13:25:00 -
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Does this mean that Space Invaders can suddenly replace all their battleships twice over!? Now that's what I call that a windfall.
Of course, the really amazing part is that Techell seem to be so rich that they can shrug off this loss. I hope nobody quits over this.
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Deloup Drakar
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Posted - 2003.10.31 13:39:00 -
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So far no word from Techell about this, until they come forward about it, this is just another piece of wasted space IMHO.
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Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.10.31 13:43:00 -
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we dont usually loose battleships, so we wont be needing any from falzone.
and I dont love falzone because of his battleships, it because he's so kind, and lovable and generous.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2003.10.31 13:58:00 -
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he can show me some affection any day, any time and anywhere
This is not a hijack
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Beringe
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Posted - 2003.10.31 14:03:00 -
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So far no word from Techell about this, until they come forward about it, this is just another piece of wasted space IMHO.
Let me just repost the link here. Not a word, but a whole interview.
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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.10.31 14:05:00 -
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So far no word from Techell about this, until they come forward about it, this is just another piece of wasted space IMHO.
*cough* Half page interview *cough*
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Singular
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Posted - 2003.10.31 14:08:00 -
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Yep, hes a scumbag, just like the Playboy guy was a scumbag.
Remember he is fkn over his fellow corpmates, not just the CEOs.
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undercover
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Posted - 2003.10.31 14:11:00 -
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My estimation of Space Invaders has plummeted (not that they are worried about this) - he should have asked for a severance cut, not resort to low life theft.
This should be reported to the Concorde *police* for them to trace the thief and exact punishment.
If anyone quits over his action or Techell folds...
People say this should happen, and so should retribution happen. He has admitted to it and should accept his punishment.
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Ian Wagner
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Posted - 2003.10.31 14:37:00 -
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Seems to be a common malady lately, "I was bored, so I <insert antisocial act here>"
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Crysania
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Posted - 2003.10.31 14:38:00 -
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The problem with these games is that there are really no negative effects of doing bad things. It's not like in RL where if you stole something like that, you would most likely be dead.
In our worlds of clones and insurance there will be no downside at all. He can enter empire space and pretend he is a normal citizen and get all the same services that anyone else can get. Who cares if you die, you have unlimited lives. It's not like insurance or clones cost more for criminals because of their status.
I don't mind a game with pirates and thieves, but there needs to be a lifestyle on the run that goes with it. Someone mentioned blackmarket goods. You steal stuff, it gets marked as blackmarket. You enter empire space and concord takes it away. A place where what you did yesterday can easily be forgotten a day or week from now, is a silly place.
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Astrid Tron
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Posted - 2003.10.31 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: Astrid Tron on 31/10/2003 14:48:42
Deceit, betrayal, theft, revenge, salesclerk turns pirate... I think this has all the elements of a great story.
Where are all you that whine about lack of content? You should be cheering you throats sore... Too bad for the members of Techell, but this is what stories are made of - the things people do to each other.
There should always be the possibility of theft and betrayal. I do agree, though, that some sort of repercussions or outlawing or something is needed to up the stakes for the thief.
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Datsevlu
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Posted - 2003.10.31 15:03:00 -
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Edited by: Datsevlu on 31/10/2003 15:04:48
Just an repsonse on this. Falzone was a trusted member from about the second month of the the game. The fact that he did this came a major suprize for me. But what he did will not affect techell and is realy only a minor loss of money is what it comes down to. I feel sorry for people like this because it just shows that people will try to earn your trust just to rip you off and will do this even if it takes months. Although from the information that I recieved last night it seems that in turn he got ripped off from someone that he handed the ships to. And also he did return some of the cruisers that he ripped off.
Part of the reason that he was able to get away with this is because I have been taking a small break from the game.
And let it be known this in no way affects us being able to make battleships and has not crippled us in anyway. I am the only member that has access to the blue prints other then a few that have read only access.
-- Datsevlu
Blow'em up we'll build more.
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Dr Teeth
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Posted - 2003.10.31 15:09:00 -
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at least he's keeping the same character, I have no problem with thieves like that, it's the one's who steal with a disposable alt that annoy me
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Skillz
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Posted - 2003.10.31 15:24:00 -
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He should join Killer Clowns. For that success, we'll propably make him a director in our private property only corp.
Besides, we're considering to join TLBC and m0o's war on techell because they have had the 'CCP gameplay meddeling magical wand and hat' in one form or the other.
The punishment for that is death.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Xander Teg
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Posted - 2003.10.31 15:29:00 -
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I would have thought long ago the black market would be out, and I would have thought that stolen items would/could be branded as stolen and only possible to be sold via the black market.
Soon, Bobby, soon.
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Deadflip2
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Posted - 2003.10.31 15:53:00 -
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and you actually think they woulda given a share?
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Arms Merchant
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Posted - 2003.10.31 16:26:00 -
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Affording the loss is irrelevant. I honestly think all these losers we see in game like the PK griefers and the thieves are really like this in real life. You cant roleplay being unethical it just happens. People will act the way they are in real life. Even pirates like Setec while a pirate was ethical. Hangar thieves are the same ones who steal in real life and gloat about it. In fact it isnt so much the theft thats bad but his apparent lack of remorse at all the real people who spent their time making those ships. He may have fun with them but hes really a coward loser in real life who doesnt care about anyone else but himself.
Arms Merchant
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Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2003.10.31 17:08:00 -
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It's interesting, it's exciting, it's something to talk about while at work in the EVe universe. Techell stated they honestly don't care diddley squat. You might call this griefing, but it's another player generated storyline news thingy.
And btw mr. whoever's alt you are:
"My estimation of Space Invaders"
Your estimation of our what? Supply of screwdrivers? I can tell you its quite large.
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