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Tsar Maul
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:25:00 -
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This is not a moan, a rant, a flame, an insult, etc. It is just a simple question.
As the ECM blog wasn't posted yesterday, is there any chance you could give us a rough idea of when to expect it?
Thanks 
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:31:00 -
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Waiting for that myself too 
Put your corp tag on btw or your post is getting ''*snip-ed*''
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Tsar Maul
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Dave White
Waiting for that myself too
Put your corp tag on btw or your post is getting ''*snip-ed*''
That's only for corp & alliance discussion (IG or OOC)
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:33:00 -
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I haope ECM was changed back to what is was in the old days.
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FFGR
Maza Nostra
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:36:00 -
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It will be posted when kieron wakes up and checks the content for mistakes ect probably.
And since kieron is US based, it will take some time.
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Sheeana
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: Sheeana on 20/10/2006 13:37:34
He is probly choosing his words more carefully cos of all the people that take this game WAY to seriously and pick apart every word he types. I realy dont think there is the need for so much flaming, just see what happens and have faith dammit! If its realy that bad it will get changed again!
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Dave White
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Tsar Maul
Originally by: Dave White
Waiting for that myself too
Put your corp tag on btw or your post is getting ''*snip-ed*''
That's only for corp & alliance discussion (IG or OOC)
Oh yeah good point
*Goes back to flaming section of the forums
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Tsar Maul
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: FFGR
It will be posted when kieron wakes up and checks the content for mistakes ect probably.
And since kieron is US based, it will take some time.
Are you saying that because Kieron is from the US it takes him longer to check the content for mistakes? 
Anyway, he has been posting since just before DT finished.
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FFGR
Maza Nostra
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tsar Maul
Originally by: FFGR
It will be posted when kieron wakes up and checks the content for mistakes ect probably.
And since kieron is US based, it will take some time.
Are you saying that because Kieron is from the US it takes him longer to check the content for mistakes?
Anyway, he has been posting since just before DT finished.
He may be checking the blog right now
btw don't hammer me I just woke up after going to a party and I have a headache
WTB painkiller pills
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:41:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
I haope ECM was changed back to what is was in the old days.
I really hope not. The new ECM has balance problems that need to be fixed, but the old EW model was horrible.
All we need here is to make ECM a bit less powerful, so it's compable to damps and tracking disruptors (i.e. isn't universally useful to shut down all ships).
The moment Pilgrim pilots start fitting tracking disruptors instead of ECM, things will be fine.
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Tsar Maul
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:42:00 -
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Guys guys, this isnt a "what I want the ECM blog to contain" thread. Make another if you cant wait 48 hours.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:45:00 -
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ECM and EWar are subjects near and dear to my heart, so I await with eager anticipation the outcomes of the discussion.
I've a few ideas for what could be done, and I posted 'em on the (really huge) discussion thread. There were a lot of constructive posts (and annoyingly, some really rather unconstructive ones too) so there's a lot of material to come up with something appropriate, feasible, moderately balanced and otherwise adding depth to the electronic warfare battlefield.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.20 13:47:00 -
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Eagerly awaiting this.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.20 14:03:00 -
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Im pretty certain it will upset alot of people though, no matter what he does. But im glad he is doing something. I havent heard anything about ecm since TomB started that ecm thread a long, long time ago... appearently Tux have been working... :)
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.20 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Im pretty certain it will upset alot of people though, no matter what he does. But im glad he is doing something. I havent heard anything about ecm since TomB started that ecm thread a long, long time ago... appearently Tux have been working... :)
I'm wondering if I can blag another EON article out of it ;)
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Gazon
Amarr
1st Praetorian Guard
Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.10.20 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Harumichi
The moment Pilgrim pilots start fitting tracking disruptors instead of ECM, things will be fine.
QFT :)
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murder one
Gallente
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.20 14:30:00 -
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Originally by: Gazon
Originally by: Alex Harumichi
The moment Pilgrim pilots start fitting tracking disruptors instead of ECM, things will be fine.
QFT :)
No kidding.
Because I said so...
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Elve Sorrow
Amarr
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.20 14:34:00 -
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Maybe he cant recall he said that. 
It's great being Amarr, aint it?
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.20 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Alex Harumichi
The moment Pilgrim pilots start fitting tracking disruptors instead of ECM, things will be fine.
Yes & no. I would rather say "..could be fine.
They could for example nerf ECM horribly, but boost the bonus of the caldari specialized ships to counter this.
Then pilgrim pilots would prolly use tracking disruptors, but ECM would still be too powerful. Only on 4 ships then, but that wouldn't change anything of it being to strong.
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.10.20 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: Alex Harumichi
The moment Pilgrim pilots start fitting tracking disruptors instead of ECM, things will be fine.
Yes & no. I would rather say "..could be fine.
They could for example nerf ECM horribly, but boost the bonus of the caldari specialized ships to counter this.
Then pilgrim pilots would prolly use tracking disruptors, but ECM would still be too powerful. Only on 4 ships then, but that wouldn't change anything of it being to strong.
True. I was just using the Pilgrim as an easy example... but I see a lot of Arazus flying around with mids full of ECM, too. Which is a bit sad, imho.
ECM does need a nerf. But I think the general EW system is fine, the numbers just need to be tweaked or ECM needs some extra penalty.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Black Reign Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.20 15:10:00 -
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One of the (IMO) main problem/strength of ECM is that it has no "useless" targets.
Tracking disruptors: missle & drones (and nos, ecm, damperners..basically anythign which is offensive and does not make pew pew)
Damperners: fast ships
Since ECM works equally well vs all ships it should have a weaker effect than tracking disrzptors or damperners, since those do not work vs all ships.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr
Out Siders
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.10.20 15:16:00 -
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In my opionion - just remove the 30 second jame time from ecm. Other that that its fine the way it is.
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Tsar Maul
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Posted - 2006.10.20 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
In my opionion - just remove the 30 second jame time from ecm. Other that that its fine the way it is.
My thoughts exactly - they should only break locks, not completely shutdown your ability to target anything.
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Alex Harumichi
Gallente
Gradient
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.10.20 15:20:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
One of the (IMO) main problem/strength of ECM is that it has no "useless" targets.
Tracking disruptors: missle & drones (and nos, ecm, damperners..basically anythign which is offensive and does not make pew pew)
Damperners: fast ships
Since ECM works equally well vs all ships it should have a weaker effect than tracking disrzptors or damperners, since those do not work vs all ships.
Exactly. Tracking disrupters are fantastic vs turret boats, utterly useless vs missile boats. Sensor damps are great as long as you can keep range, useless if the other guy gets up close and has a lock.
Once ECM gets a "weak spot" (the current random nature is not enough, given the extreme effect ECM has), things should be fine. Right now, if you have an extra mid fitting an ECM is almost a no-brainer. Ideally, you'd fit EW based on what kind of ship you're flying, what you expect opponents to be flying, and what kinds of tactics you want to use.
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Tsar Maul
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Posted - 2006.10.20 15:22:00 -
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Make ECM prevent missiles from firing at their target properly? :)
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Lucian Corvinus
Gallente
Expert Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.20 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tsar Maul
Make ECM prevent missiles from firing at their target properly? :)
Huh... and it doesn't do that atm??
why not make ECM prevent alts from posting on the forum.. would be alot more useful imho...
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Forsch
Auctoritan Syndicate
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.20 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
In my opionion - just remove the 30 second jame time from ecm. Other that that its fine the way it is.
Good one. I agree. Maybe have to tune down cap use some.
Forsch
Defender of the empire
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Tsar Maul
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Posted - 2006.10.20 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Corvinus
Originally by: Tsar Maul
Make ECM prevent missiles from firing at their target properly? :)
Huh... and it doesn't do that atm??
why not make ECM prevent alts from posting on the forum.. would be alot more useful imho...
Sorry, should've been "...only prevent missiles...".
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FFGR
Maza Nostra
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.10.20 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lord WarATron
In my opionion - just remove the 30 second jame time from ecm. Other that that its fine the way it is.
WTB jammer with 30s jamming duration
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2006.10.20 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
One of the (IMO) main problem/strength of ECM is that it has no "useless" targets.
Tracking disruptors: missle & drones (and nos, ecm, damperners..basically anythign which is offensive and does not make pew pew)
Damperners: fast ships
Since ECM works equally well vs all ships it should have a weaker effect than tracking disrzptors or damperners, since those do not work vs all ships.
Remove multispecs. Problem solved.
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