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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:03:19 -
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How many of you wait (with excitement) for such an announcement from CCP in a near future? I sure do, it is one things I found totally out of place in a space game.
Also, how many of you would loathe/fear not being able to see "the reds" in local chat?
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Dr Prometheus
Gears of Construction Gears Confederation
116
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:06:15 -
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Go to a WH.
Dude, where is my Quafe Megathron?
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Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force A T O N E M E N T
654
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:10:18 -
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I quite like local chat in Low Sec. It lets me know that there are people to fight. Its like a dating site but for EvE. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2276
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:10:54 -
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Gimme Sake wrote: How many of you wait (with excitement) for such an announcement from CCP in a near future? I sure do, it is one things I found totally out of place in a space game.
Also, how many of you would loathe/fear not being able to see "the reds" in local chat?
Absolutely Not even a removal. Something as simple as a delayed update. Like scanner but with refresh of a minute or two. Or at least require a module. Way too powerful in its current form for an accidental feature they put in in 2003.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
282
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:15:36 -
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It's rude to enter a system and not greet the locals in chat.
Moderate strength is shown in violence, supreme strength is shown in levity.
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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
324
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:18:25 -
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Vicky Somers wrote:It's rude to enter a system and not greet the locals in chat.
I be a rude boy mon. |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:31:23 -
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Sean Parisi wrote:I quite like local chat in Low Sec. It lets me know that there are people to fight. Its like a dating site but for EvE. This. Local is the best match making tool you can have in a sandbox. It's an MMO, isn't to know some other player is there the point?
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Xayder
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
333
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:34:24 -
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I like Jita local
I don't always post, But when i post I do it with my main
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:37:33 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Sean Parisi wrote:I quite like local chat in Low Sec. It lets me know that there are people to fight. Its like a dating site but for EvE. This. Local is the best match making tool you can have in a sandbox. It's an MMO, isn't to know some other player is there the point?
Well, there is D-scan, there is stealth, there are scouts, there recons. I feel recons are played at half their value because of the reasons you listed above.
Also the whole local chat system makes space feel extremely small. You enter a system and instantly you know 95% about what's going on over there.
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Aivo Dresden
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
417
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:38:01 -
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Local I can somehow understand. What needs to go is that abomination of a watch list though. That has no place in game and can't be justified. |
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Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
192
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:39:01 -
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Seriously the only place a lack of local should be allowed is Wormholes, and even Sov Null once a module exsists for controlling communications.
In Empire space (ie highsec) the empires and Concord control communitcations and there fore as public entitiies Local should remain the same, and that goes as well for losec. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:39:08 -
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Xayder wrote:I like Jita local
Then you can dock in the station and have a chat. I see no reason why station chat should be removed.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:45:18 -
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Max Deveron wrote:Seriously the only place a lack of local should be allowed is Wormholes, and even Sov Null once a module exsists for controlling communications.
In Empire space (ie highsec) the empires and Concord control communitcations and there fore as public entitiies Local should remain the same, and that goes as well for losec.
If you have a device allowing to pin point a cloaked ship shouldn't the logical extent be another device jamming outsiders/ not sov owners from using local comm channels? I feel information is too easily if not effortlessly obtained simply because of "the local".
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
2277
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:47:25 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Sean Parisi wrote:I quite like local chat in Low Sec. It lets me know that there are people to fight. Its like a dating site but for EvE. This. Local is the best match making tool you can have in a sandbox. It's an MMO, isn't to know some other player is there the point? If you lack fights because of no local, talk, tell them where you are and stuff. They'll come.
CCP Fozzie GǣWe can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-tonGǪ in null sec anomalies. Gǣ*
Kaalrus pwned..... :)
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Sean Parisi
Fugutive Task Force A T O N E M E N T
655
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:49:37 -
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Further point. Local in FW is almost a necessity. Even with d-scan and everything else. It helps to pair equal fleets and allow for quick combat. However, delayed local on null is good. Why? Nullbears and bots need to die. There are less "mutual" fights and sneak attacks have more value. Otherwise carebears just dock up. |
Vyl Vit
1128
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:56:14 -
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Gimme Sake wrote: How many of you wait (with excitement) for such an announcement from CCP in a near future? I sure do, it is one things I found totally out of place in a space game.
Also, how many of you would loathe/fear not being able to see "the reds" in local chat?
Out of place in a space game? Hmm...you got me there. Is there a manual or a certified list of some sort of what exactly "goes in a space game?" (Maybe the fedo didn't make the final edit.)
I know, when you were a kid you'd hide under the bed and be overwhelmed by the thought that nobody knew where you were...until your mom peeked under there and said, "Lunch time." Now, you want to bring that wonderful feeling of being invisible into a "space game." How does being invisible figure in a "space game" anyway. All those probes, and stuff, not once (not even for a cloaked Klingon Bird of Prey) did anyone manage to HIDE a space ship from other space ships.
"Intercept transmission" Hmm...where have I heard that one before? [i"]Shhh...we're hiding."[/i] Grow a pair.
Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:56:36 -
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Sean Parisi wrote:Further point. Local in FW is almost a necessity. Even with d-scan and everything else. It helps to pair equal fleets and allow for quick combat. However, delayed local on null is good. Why? Nullbears and bots need to die. There are less "mutual" fights and sneak attacks have more value. Otherwise carebears just dock up.
FW plexes already allow for quick combat. Besides it's enough to have a few people scouting the gates to figure out a fleet is comming.
Null is not empire space but sov so I don't see why Concord would share any capsuleer info.
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Serene Repose
2442
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Posted - 2015.03.22 09:58:16 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:Gimme Sake wrote: How many of you wait (with excitement) for such an announcement from CCP in a near future? I sure do, it is one things I found totally out of place in a space game.
Also, how many of you would loathe/fear not being able to see "the reds" in local chat?
Out of place in a space game? Hmm...you got me there. Is there a manual or a certified list of some sort of what exactly "goes in a space game?" (Maybe the fedo didn't make the final edit.) I know, when you were a kid you'd hide under the bed and be overwhelmed by the thought that nobody knew where you were...until your mom peeked under there and said, "Lunch time." Now, you want to bring that wonderful feeling of being invisible into a "space game." How does being invisible figure in a "space game" anyway. All those probes, and stuff, not once (not even for a cloaked Klingon Bird of Prey) did anyone manage to HIDE a space ship from other space ships. "Intercept transmission" Hmm...where have I heard that one before? "Shhh...we're hiding." Grow a pair. Ever notice how dodgy these people are?
It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to type on your keyboard and remove all doubt.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:00:15 -
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Vyl Vit wrote:Gimme Sake wrote: How many of you wait (with excitement) for such an announcement from CCP in a near future? I sure do, it is one things I found totally out of place in a space game.
Also, how many of you would loathe/fear not being able to see "the reds" in local chat?
Out of place in a space game? Hmm...you got me there. Is there a manual or a certified list of some sort of what exactly "goes in a space game?" (Maybe the fedo didn't make the final edit.) I know, when you were a kid you'd hide under the bed and be overwhelmed by the thought that nobody knew where you were...until your mom peeked under there and said, "Lunch time." Now, you want to bring that wonderful feeling of being invisible into a "space game." How does being invisible figure in a "space game" anyway. All those probes, and stuff, not once (not even for a cloaked Klingon Bird of Prey) did anyone manage to HIDE a space ship from other space ships. "Intercept transmission" Hmm...where have I heard that one before? "Shhh...we're hiding." Grow a pair.
And how much of effective game-play is nothing else than check local chat?
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Madd Adda
43
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:05:50 -
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face it, you want local gone because you can then war dec and sneak up on the afk miners without them knowing.
Carebear extraordinaire
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
598
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:06:24 -
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oh. look at this super original thread!
I would love to make an in-depth response, but I'm not sure it would have the same level of originality....
If you can be bothered, you can search the forum for one of my replies tho. oh wait... |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
182
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:11:31 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:Sean Parisi wrote:I quite like local chat in Low Sec. It lets me know that there are people to fight. Its like a dating site but for EvE. This. Local is the best match making tool you can have in a sandbox. It's an MMO, isn't to know some other player is there the point? If you lack fights because of no local, talk, tell them where you are and stuff. They'll come. Sure, but then the fights are on their terms only, I reveal myself and the opponents can decide to engage or not. Nobody would ever again talk in local again, unless it's a well prepared trap. Like in wormholes today.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:11:54 -
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Yarda Black wrote:oh. look at this super original thread!
I would love to make an in-depth response, but I'm not sure it would have the same level of originality....
If you can be bothered, you can search the forum for one of my replies tho. oh wait...
Well, in the light of the new uncloaking device presented at the fan-fest I thought it is appropriate to open an old, crusty wound.
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
1063
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:18:48 -
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HAY OP YOU CAN MINIMISE LOCAL THANK ME LATER
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Yarda Black
Militaris Industries Northern Coalition.
598
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:21:43 -
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Gimme Sake wrote:Yarda Black wrote:oh. look at this super original thread!
I would love to make an in-depth response, but I'm not sure it would have the same level of originality....
If you can be bothered, you can search the forum for one of my replies tho. oh wait... Well, in the light of the new uncloaking device presented at the fan-fest I thought it is appropriate to open an old, crusty wound.
Fine. I don't think this will lead to anything not said already, but its your thread, not mine. Here's my opinion:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5559482#post5559482
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Lucretia DeWinter
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
206
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:24:20 -
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Removal of local won't make anything more stealthy. You'll still be spotted and flagged in intel channels way before you can gank something.
All you will do is mandate that poor newbros will be tasked to sit in cloaky ships watching stargates. Thanks for ruining their gaming time. And all the soft targets will be stabbed up, so you still won't catch them.
Local is fine, somehow people still manage to sneak blobs up on folks and kick their face in.
Blaming local is easy. You need to explain what the problem you have with local is rather than just reopening a generic whine that local is bad. |
Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:25:58 -
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Yarda Black wrote:Gimme Sake wrote:Yarda Black wrote:oh. look at this super original thread!
I would love to make an in-depth response, but I'm not sure it would have the same level of originality....
If you can be bothered, you can search the forum for one of my replies tho. oh wait... Well, in the light of the new uncloaking device presented at the fan-fest I thought it is appropriate to open an old, crusty wound. Fine. I don't think this will lead to anything not said already, but its your thread, not mine. Here's my opinion: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5559482#post5559482
Thanks for posting the link.
You do, however, have corp chat and any other chat channel.
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy Caldari State
71
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:28:50 -
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Lucretia DeWinter wrote:Removal of local won't make anything more stealthy. You'll still be spotted and flagged in intel channels way before you can gank something.
All you will do is mandate that poor newbros will be tasked to sit in cloaky ships watching stargates. Thanks for ruining their gaming time. And all the soft targets will be stabbed up, so you still won't catch them.
Local is fine, somehow people still manage to sneak blobs up on folks and kick their face in.
Blaming local is easy. You need to explain what the problem you have with local is rather than just reopening a generic whine that local is bad.
I haven't said it is bad I, said it is instant information about the whole system. I sure don't want to ruin anybody's game.
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S'Way
Summa Omnium Metus Third Degree Burns
1197
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:43:52 -
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If they add a module to find afk cloakers then local should be removed (at least outside empire space). Would prefer a system where local is delayed the lower the sec status goes from instant in 1.0 systems to removed in 0.0.
Can't see local ever being removed though sadly (even if wormholes are proof people can get by fine without it), so maybe using this new anti-cloaking module could have a drawback of jamming system signals so local doesn't update while it's active. |
Garnoo
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
147
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Posted - 2015.03.22 10:54:20 -
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a single wardec will completly paralyze a hisec corp :D i would love that idea only if it comes with enabling covert cyno in hisec too
People are going to try to ruin your day. Get together with others, ruin their day back --á EvE
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