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Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co.
Brave Collective
308
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:13:55 -
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Agondray wrote:
while it is fairly safe past the initial gate camps set by your fleets and the pacts of the 2 blocs, interceptor roams since "interceptor online" came about do like to go out and grief whoever they can find.
And they get bored within a few minutes and you can mine for hours on end again. Ask my friends at Bovril Borers how to do it.
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Noragli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
84
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:18:50 -
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Op has been offered advice but chooses to ignore such posts.
Op making huge exaggerations to try to convince people to see his way (yes, some ice belts have a guy with 10+ alts, but most ice belts do not)
I wonder if he has a hidden agenda? |
Eve Solecist
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:25:25 -
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It's only "risk free cheap" ganking,
because no one bothers protecting (his) miners.
Anyone can change this situation with a battlecruiser and a bit of research. |
IcyMind Arierep
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
9
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Posted - 2015.03.25 13:50:12 -
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The expression on this forums is like everyone has 20 alt character. Is not like that I know a lot people that play only 1 account with 1 or 2 alt. If you don't like it in one place, more somewhere else. But if this behavior is bot driven it should be banned. If is one guy playing 20 account I don't care, somehow he still needs to pay for plex or subscription so good for CCP.
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ISO Quorra
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:02:42 -
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IcyMind Arierep wrote:The expression on this forums is like everyone has 20 alt character. Is not like that I know a lot people that play only 1 account with 1 or 2 alt. If you don't like it in one place, more somewhere else. But if this behavior is bot driven it should be banned. If is one guy playing 20 account I don't care, somehow he still needs to pay for plex or subscription so good for CCP.
I have looked at the majority of all high sec ice systems...
Moved around 20 jumps already today alone and find the same thing all over....
Here have some more...
http://i.imgur.com/GhRWNd7.png
4 Belts almost gone over 2 systems so far, they working on 4th and soon 5th belt in a 3rd system since downtime...they also did exactly the same thing before downtime so by the time they finish they would of farmed almost 12 belts of ice before and after downtime...to one play pretty much. Repeat another 6 belts in next 4 hours spawn time, and again the next day...
Not all of those is same guy but 90% of them. We had a nice discussion about what CCP should do about ICE belts in local and they agree the changes were stupid and he understands how it is unfair on those trying to do a little but of mining here and there and completely favors those with 15-20 accounts doing mega farming....but like everyone else he says its completely legit part of the game and he is allowed to do it, which is true.
CCP screwed up with the ice belt changes and the game mechanics around ice mining now have completely screwed solo miners, small corps or anyone basically who is wanting to ice mine but does not have 15-20 accounts.
Move 20 systems and same thing....no matter what ice system you go to... |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
270
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:10:27 -
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ISO Quorra wrote:Each one of those is one guy each controlling all those....they have no issue openly admitting it.
Does it look like he's a bot (simultaneous actions with ship movement, targeting, cycling lasers)? If so, use the in game option to report him as a bot. Like the law, CCP moves slow - but they do move. One ban of all his accounts would likely change the behavior.
As far as your assertion that it's this way in all ice belts -- it's just not true.
The 70 man mining fleet with positioned defenders was a very impressive thing to see (Genesis/Agal). Does anyone know if he's still operating after the bot action in January?
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Amarrchecko
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:15:51 -
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If you're so concerned with these guys clearing out all the belts, why are you hiding their names and such instead of offering them up and asking for a ganker response? |
Daerrol
Furtherance.
75
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:17:36 -
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I know of many ice belts you could mine semi-AFK all day. Yes they are in lowsec, but no one at all goes there. Granted this was ~6months ago but I doubt anyone moved in where we moved out. |
ISO Quorra
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:23:21 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:If you're so concerned with these guys clearing out all the belts, why are you hiding their names and such instead of offering them up and asking for a ganker response?
Because its against forum rules? Is why I blacked out the names. |
Anthar Thebess
977
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:31:09 -
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GankYou wrote:Here is the volume mined by regions throughout the year 2014 - http://i.imgur.com/ReUZfak.jpg
Covers all types of ores and ice, and all regions. ISO Quorra, survey the gray areas. 
Now you made me proud Stain citizen.
Capital Remote AID Rebalance
Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
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Soldarius
Kosher Nostra
The 99 Percent
1189
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:42:31 -
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Report them all as bots. Let CCP sort them out.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Aivo Dresden
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
429
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:46:34 -
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Why don't you just flip their can? |
Kalishka Ashkulf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2015.03.25 14:48:29 -
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Bump them.
Why, thank you, Thing!
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IcyMind Arierep
Chaotic Tranquility
Warp to Cyno.
9
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Posted - 2015.03.25 15:00:03 -
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Wow seems like a lot, but try that bump them, report them. Move to another part of the empire. |
Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
43758
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Posted - 2015.03.25 15:11:39 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:Laken Starr wrote:While I agree that multiboxers are the bane of Eve Online...most of the problems listed above can be avoided simply by moving to nullsec. While avoidance works for the individual player, the situation still remains the same and is a detriment to the game.
Ask for more highsec safety and ganker nerfs. That will fix it. |
Amarrchecko
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2015.03.25 15:18:35 -
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ISO Quorra wrote:Amarrchecko wrote:If you're so concerned with these guys clearing out all the belts, why are you hiding their names and such instead of offering them up and asking for a ganker response? Because its against forum rules? Is why I blacked out the names.
My mistake.
But still. Go post the names on the minerbumping forums or in the CODE. channel ingame or something. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2553
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Posted - 2015.03.25 16:30:26 -
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Amarrchecko wrote:ISO Quorra wrote:Amarrchecko wrote:If you're so concerned with these guys clearing out all the belts, why are you hiding their names and such instead of offering them up and asking for a ganker response? Because its against forum rules? Is why I blacked out the names. My mistake. But still. Go post the names on the minerbumping forums or in the CODE. channel ingame or something.
Or he could kill them himself. We aren't mercenaries, we are champions of justice. You can't just batphone us because you want to mine in peace. Besides, I have no record of the OP owning a mining permit, so he's just as criminal as the people he's whining about.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff | No-one hates you, none of us care enough for that.
Sabriz for CSM
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Niobe Song
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2015.03.25 18:16:34 -
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So these people with the 20 account mining fleets....is that all they do ever? Are these accounts at least supplementing their income so they can do something more interesting and fun on their main or is ice mining all they do?
And if it is all they do I have to ask WHY? Why would someone want to do that and nothing else all day? |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
CODE.
870
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Posted - 2015.03.25 18:26:38 -
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Eve is a competitive multiplayer sandbox and some resources like ice are finite. If you want a share of them you need to fight for it. If you are not willing to fight then try a game where everything is handed to you without effort.
BTW: where is your mining permit?
the Code ALWAYS wins
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DaReaper
Net 7
1864
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Posted - 2015.03.25 18:42:49 -
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move to a shatllered system. ls system or join a null sec alliance.
if you believe they are breaking the rules, like using isboxer then report them.
adapt or die
/thread
OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!
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Styphon the Black
Forced Euthanasia
Soviet-Union
20
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Posted - 2015.03.25 19:13:09 -
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I think 1 account = 1 person = 1 toon. However, it was already long ago broken before I ever even created an account. So we all just have to live with it.
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ashley Eoner
463
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Posted - 2015.03.25 20:37:53 -
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Styphon the Black wrote:I think 1 account = 1 person = 1 toon. However, it was already long ago broken before I ever even created an account. So we all just have to live with it.
How would you even do that? Require social security numbers for every account? Don't say one account per IP because that's so ridiculously stupid I don't even want to have to waste my time pointing out why.
It's funny that Blizzard is telling people to HTFU over multiboxers while CCP is trying to cater to the whiners.
Multiboxing has always existed in nearly every online game in existence. The few that don't have multiboxers have draconian and often incredibly intrusive methods to prevent it.
As for ice the new spawn system is the only reason ice products are worth anything right now. Between fatigue and talk of stront related changes there's been a massive decrease in demand for ice products.
I see in some of your pictures that you could be easily ganking the supposed boxers with a single retriever. I say supposed because I know some people who run a tight mining setup and they get accused of being boxers all the time. In reality it's just a group of friends some of whom live together.
CCP has given you tools to deal with this situation and you choose to ignore all of them except the forum. That's just laziness on your part.
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Arthur Aihaken
Narada
4215
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Posted - 2015.03.26 01:13:26 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:Need to be able to gank asteroids if you ask me. If they can blast away at them with mining lasers I should be able to blast away at them with any weapon of choice, and reduce them to unrecoverable clouds of dust.
I like the idea.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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ZAKURELL0 LINDA
Black Scorpions Inc
Fidelas Constans
60
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Posted - 2015.03.26 01:33:48 -
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instead of crying and running like a child, you can DO THIS and collect tears
gank the same guy until he quits, even if he can coupe with the losses, he still need to fit the ships everytime he welp his fleet 
and don't forget to post a vid doing it
RIP Iron Lady
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
1159
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Posted - 2015.03.26 01:35:23 -
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ashley Eoner wrote:You should be pitying the multibox ice miners. . Yeah, that 35 billion ISK after PLEXing ... those poor guys!  ISO Quorra wrote:Each one of those is one guy each controlling all those....they have no issue openly admitting it.
Go see for yourself, scout all the different regions in high sec, every single ice system. Found your problem. There is ice in other parts of space.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids.
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SOV is stagnant because Low Sec is not the next step from High Sec and a viable place to grow alliances to the point they can challenge Null alliances.
Fozzie is treating a symptom.
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Michael Ruckert
Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando
286
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Posted - 2015.03.26 01:56:39 -
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I ice mine now and then in a high sec system. Last night I was the only one in a 0.5 system mining ice. Yes, the ONLY ONE. Sometimes we get a mining group in, but not often. And right next door is a 0.4 system with ice that never gets mined. There are times when no one is in that system for prolonged time periods, so it could easily be mined.
Sorry OP, not buying into your generalization that individual ice mining in high sec is dead.
"No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
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Dalto Bane
Cruis3r's Cr3w Inc.
154
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Posted - 2015.03.26 01:59:23 -
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Replying in stealth Nerf ISBoxer....oh wait...
so what do you propose CCP do now? If the before mentioned is a true testiment, cry loud enough, and they will give in to your demands.
Drops Mic
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ashley Eoner
463
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Posted - 2015.03.26 04:58:32 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:ashley Eoner wrote:You should be pitying the multibox ice miners. . Yeah, that 35 billion ISK after PLEXing ... those poor guys!
What are you even talking about with that 35 billion isk comment? It takes 55 hours of ice mining a month just to get the accounts paid for. To make another 35 billion isk would take another 149 hours of mining. At that point he/she will of spent well over 200 hours of ice mining (51 hours a week you'd be better off with a second full time job and just buy plex). That's just not happening with ice. I know this because I've boxed ice mining before out of curiosity. I made far more isk per hour with my accounts via other activities.
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Hermanni Pursiainen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.03.26 06:30:53 -
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Wouldnt be half as bad if you could actually wardec these guys. Too bad they are always in npc corp so youre just **** outta luck.
Also yes, the system is stupid. Old system was just as flawed as this one, but at least then you could mine no? |
Korwin Abre-Kai
lichfield exploration and salvage
10
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Posted - 2015.03.26 07:56:16 -
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what a load of total BS! waaa I tried 4+ systems blabla ban multy boxing cause other players are better than me........
I mined blue ice this evening with a three account fleet and there were only two other fleets in the belt for a total of around 8 to 12 ships including the orcas, the belt was up for 3 hrs at least and that is how it is most weeknights in that system the belt one system over was even less populated in fact all the belts around there run about the same ( NO im not telling you where) so quit your crying and do some actual scouting
yes there are large fleets and it sucks to have them suck up all the ice but it is no where near the problem it was prior to the broadcasting ban and even then it was not as bad as what your claiming. |
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