EVE Search - KIA Corp Calls for the Banning of mines from use in Eve.

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KIAEddZ	Posted - 2003.11.03 10:53:00 - [1] Or at least the recognisation that using mines to create Lag is an exploit of the game engine, and use for ths purpose is punishable by account termination. Please sign below if you agree with this notion. And if not, please detail your thoughts on the matter. Thx :) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2003.11.03 10:53:00 - [2] Or at least the recognisation that using mines to create Lag is an exploit of the game engine, and use for ths purpose is punishable by account termination. Please sign below if you agree with this notion. And if not, please detail your thoughts on the matter. Thx :) KIA EVE Home
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2003.11.03 10:56:00 - [3] Yeah, and ban stuff else i found you can exploit. __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2003.11.03 10:56:00 - [4] (sarcasm) __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
DREAMWORKS Gallente DreamCatchers Inc. TALIONIS ALLIANCE	Posted - 2003.11.03 10:56:00 - [5] Yeah, and ban stuff else i found you can exploit. __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
DREAMWORKS Gallente DreamCatchers Inc. TALIONIS ALLIANCE	Posted - 2003.11.03 10:56:00 - [6] (sarcasm) __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
KIAEddZ	Posted - 2003.11.03 11:07:00 - [7] (Can't speak English) I think you meant Dreamy. (SARCASM) ;) http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347 www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2003.11.03 11:07:00 - [8] (Can't speak English) I think you meant Dreamy. (SARCASM) ;) KIA EVE Home
teknetos	Posted - 2003.11.03 12:27:00 - [9] .......yeah last night the minefield that may or may not have been awaiting us was a genuine concern, and the lag would probably have condemned us to slaughter but we came to the conclusion that most members of the NVA are miners and can't PvP to save their lives (some not all, so don't earbash me), and we decided to jump in, we arrived in an empty jumpin to great surprise (no mines, no NVA ) if you are wondering why we jumped 2 a different location I'll take a wild guess and say a certain GM moved the jumpin (I guess thats OK since thanks to that move no-one lost their ships), it was really frustrating getting all the way up to Venal, producing 2 great opposing fleets and then getting a nerfed jumpin. Reeeespect for the NVA for producing 40 battleships but we would've ganked ya's anyways ----------MINES ARE AN EXPLOIT----------
teknetos	Posted - 2003.11.03 12:27:00 - [10] .......yeah last night the minefield that may or may not have been awaiting us was a genuine concern, and the lag would probably have condemned us to slaughter but we came to the conclusion that most members of the NVA are miners and can't PvP to save their lives (some not all, so don't earbash me), and we decided to jump in, we arrived in an empty jumpin to great surprise (no mines, no NVA ) if you are wondering why we jumped 2 a different location I'll take a wild guess and say a certain GM moved the jumpin (I guess thats OK since thanks to that move no-one lost their ships), it was really frustrating getting all the way up to Venal, producing 2 great opposing fleets and then getting a nerfed jumpin. Reeeespect for the NVA for producing 40 battleships but we would've ganked ya's anyways ----------MINES ARE AN EXPLOIT----------
Serak Tur	Posted - 2003.11.03 12:49:00 - [11] Edited by: Serak Tur on 03/11/2003 12:52:44 I for one would like to see mines taken completely out of the game. If their use was banned that would have a similar affect though. All mines do is create situations were the opposing force is given (a reasonable) excuse not to engage the defending force. IMO mine use is little better than using cargo containers to create lag like some did in the early days. It is unfortunate that many people feel they must use them to get an advantage. Which, given the game engine, they undoubtedly do provide. I know I would be hard pressed to jump into a spot that had 30+ ships AND a load of mines. I agree with you fully EddZ and happily sign. -Serak Tur
Serak Tur Ascent of Ages	Posted - 2003.11.03 12:49:00 - [12] Edited by: Serak Tur on 03/11/2003 12:52:44 I for one would like to see mines taken completely out of the game. If their use was banned that would have a similar affect though. All mines do is create situations were the opposing force is given (a reasonable) excuse not to engage the defending force. IMO mine use is little better than using cargo containers to create lag like some did in the early days. It is unfortunate that many people feel they must use them to get an advantage. Which, given the game engine, they undoubtedly do provide. I know I would be hard pressed to jump into a spot that had 30+ ships AND a load of mines. I agree with you fully EddZ and happily sign. -Serak Tur
Mongo Peck	Posted - 2003.11.03 12:58:00 - [13] Scrap them ..... oh CCP Wake TF Up Mongo speaks !!
Mongo Peck Requiem of Hades	Posted - 2003.11.03 12:58:00 - [14] Scrap them ..... oh CCP Wake TF Up Mongo speaks !!
Wild Rho	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:01:00 - [15] Fix the jump in lag, until then I vote for banning the use of mines and cargo to create jump in lag. I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it...
Wild Rho Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:01:00 - [16] Fix the jump in lag, until then I vote for banning the use of mines and cargo to create jump in lag.
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:04:00 - [17] Mines serve absolutely no purpose in this game. Either make them useful, or take them away plz. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
KIAInkZ Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:04:00 - [18] Mines serve absolutely no purpose in this game. Either make them useful, or take them away plz. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
DB Preacher	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:14:00 - [19] Couldnt agree more... Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:14:00 - [20] Couldnt agree more... Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Violation	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:16:00 - [21] Yes, things would be alot better without them, there is enough lag already without these things lying around everywhere in fleet battles.
Violation Minmatar	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:16:00 - [22] Yes, things would be alot better without them, there is enough lag already without these things lying around everywhere in fleet battles.
Bottle	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:17:00 - [23] Mines have been a war traktik for years and years, it would be silly to remove then as they quite obviously do have use in a war situ. I do agree however that the lag situ is far more important and with that fixed the game play in many cases would be improved.
Bottle Caldari Black Omega Security Curse Alliance	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:17:00 - [24] Mines have been a war traktik for years and years, it would be silly to remove then as they quite obviously do have use in a war situ. I do agree however that the lag situ is far more important and with that fixed the game play in many cases would be improved.
TIvian	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:21:00 - [25] Edited by: TIvian on 03/11/2003 13:21:42 What you call an Exploit I call a tactic and game mechanics. so when you jump into space. and there are 10 or more ships and there is lag....are you going to whine that its and exploit? or there is lag because some one is using a boat load of dones in a field is that an exploit because he mind that bistot roid before you could target it? GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK!!! don't like it don't play it! (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!!
TIvian Caldari The Hushz	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:21:00 - [26] Edited by: TIvian on 03/11/2003 13:21:42 What you call an Exploit I call a tactic and game mechanics. so when you jump into space. and there are 10 or more ships and there is lag....are you going to whine that its and exploit? or there is lag because some one is using a boat load of dones in a field is that an exploit because he mind that bistot roid before you could target it? GIVE ME A FREAKING BREAK!!! don't like it don't play it! They say "America is the GREAT SATAN!!" I say, If they think we're the devil, THEN LETS SEND THEM TO HELL!
Techie Zero	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:25:00 - [27] I think it is CCPs responsibility for this problem and they need to pay more attention to it. But it's not just mines. Anything to an excess in an area is an issue. CCP did limit the cargo can issue, now they need to work on this too. Many games like Asheron's Call had techniques to help with load balancing. If there were too many players in an area they would actually teleport you to a different server node. I don't think it's bad to mine a jump in point. You want your mines to explode when a guy gets there or when he tries to fight you. CCP however needs to be proactive in controlling server load. EVE-I.com~THE Info source
Techie Zero Gallente Forsaken Empire The Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:25:00 - [28] I think it is CCPs responsibility for this problem and they need to pay more attention to it. But it's not just mines. Anything to an excess in an area is an issue. CCP did limit the cargo can issue, now they need to work on this too. Many games like Asheron's Call had techniques to help with load balancing. If there were too many players in an area they would actually teleport you to a different server node. I don't think it's bad to mine a jump in point. You want your mines to explode when a guy gets there or when he tries to fight you. CCP however needs to be proactive in controlling server load.
Bottle	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:30:00 - [29] Would agree its not necassarly an exploit. its a bug, and one that should be removed. Using it as a tactik purposely is cheap. and show a lack of origanality.
Bottle Caldari Black Omega Security Curse Alliance	Posted - 2003.11.03 13:30:00 - [30] Would agree its not necassarly an exploit. its a bug, and one that should be removed. Using it as a tactik purposely is cheap. and show a lack of origanality.

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