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hellhathnofury
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Posted - 2006.10.25 01:21:00 -
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I've just finished training T2 425's in anticipation of the Rokh and with the changes to torps as well, I can't see I'll be using the Raven again for some time in normal PVP scenarios. I'm primarily talking 0.0 alliance combat when I say PVP. Anyone else doing the same? Can anyone tell me a reason/situation I would use a Raven over a Rokh in the future?
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Pumpkin Bread
Caldari
CRICE Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.25 01:26:00 -
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/me raises hand. For sure. The Rokh will be far better for fleet imo, and I personally prefer turrets anyhow. The large ranges of fleet engagements, the Rokh will really shine, especially compared to the Raven. Although, a good torp raven will still be exellent for small group close combat. That is your time to use the raven :]
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.25 01:42:00 -
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Its raven all the way for me tbh 
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DubanFP
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.10.25 01:50:00 -
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I'm more intrested in the new caldari Tier 2 BC "can't remember name"
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.25 01:55:00 -
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Drake.
Strong ship that... apart from the pwnishness it'll dish in PVP, it'll likely as not run lvl4s as well as a cerberus, with a little faction gear and the right rigs.
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Baun
4S Corporation
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.10.25 01:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Shin Ra
Its raven all the way for me tbh
But your Raven will now have a lock range of 5km :P
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The Enemy's Gate is Down
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Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.10.25 01:59:00 -
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Edited by: Dahak2150 on 25/10/2006 02:02:03
Dude 1: Help! They've got Bokhs!
Dude 2: They've got a box? What's in it?
Dude 1: Null!
Dude 2: There's nothing in the enemy's box?
Dude 1: No, they're shooting null at us.
Dude 2: They're shooting nothing at you. Why are you afraid noob?
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lofty29
Praxiteles Inc.
E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.10.25 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Baun
Originally by: Shin Ra
Its raven all the way for me tbh
But your Raven will now have a lock range of 5km :P
;)
2.5, she uses t2 WCS 
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Beringe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.10.25 02:21:00 -
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Raven will be an even better king of close range once ECM gets nerfed a bit.
And I think I'd choose it for small gang combat in general as well.
Rokh will be a monster fleet ship, though, and just lovely for any kind of sniper duty.
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
The Black Rabbits
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Posted - 2006.10.25 02:38:00 -
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Rokh is most useful 72km+, and it might be decent with Javelin ammo now that it doesn't get a Shield HP penalty. ^_^
But Ravens still do more DPS and will not replace a Rokh for close range... I don't even think putting blasters on a Rokh will do it.
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.25 02:44:00 -
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drake wont be able to fit well with the powergrid it has, dont thing it ll be easy to go with heavy assault launchers all the way.
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.10.25 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell
drake wont be able to fit well with the powergrid it has, dont thing it ll be easy to go with heavy assault launchers all the way.
What is this, a joke?
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Firane
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.25 04:26:00 -
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Edited by: Firane on 25/10/2006 04:26:19
Originally by: Aeaus
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
drake wont be able to fit well with the powergrid it has, dont thing it ll be easy to go with heavy assault launchers all the way.
What is this, a joke?
No.
With Eng 5 and a full rack of HAM's, you're left with something like 250-300 PG.
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keepiru
Supernova Security Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.25 04:30:00 -
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Which is more than ample? Its a shield-tanker, lol, how much PG do you need? 
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FFGR
Maza Nostra
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.10.25 04:43:00 -
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Drake seriously needs some PG cuts 
It's way more than enough.
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:37:00 -
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you talking like you haven't seen the new launchers power grid requirements.
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Synapse Archae
Amarr
Solarflare Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:43:00 -
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Edited by: Synapse Archae on 25/10/2006 08:44:20
The rokh is not the ship for T2 425s. If you have t2 guns, you can get a megathron up to that range, and reap a 5% damage reward. On the rokh all you get is wayy more range than you could ever use.
I'll have to confirm this post-release, but my thought is the experienced pilots with the t2 guns will stay with the damage bonus on the megathron, and the rokh will be used to get those without t2 gunnery into long range fleets.
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar
Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Firane
Edited by: Firane on 25/10/2006 04:26:19
Originally by: Aeaus
Originally by: Roxanna Kell
drake wont be able to fit well with the powergrid it has, dont thing it ll be easy to go with heavy assault launchers all the way.
What is this, a joke?
No.
With Eng 5 and a full rack of HAM's, you're left with something like 250-300 PG.
Full rack of Ham's?
/me imagines a butchers shop.
...on the other hand using a banana might be a viable alternative.
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Kapitanleutnant Mei
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:56:00 -
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yes they take 120mw- the drake's PG is fine, you probably need a PDS2 for a full rack of assault missiles and a passive tank but that's not bad due to it helping your tank as well
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Hayabusa Fury
Caldari
Wu-Tang Financial
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: hellhathnofury
Can anyone tell me a reason/situation I would use a Raven over a Rokh in the future?
Did anyone really ever use the Raven in fleet situations if they had any other choice available?
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Lucian Corvinus
Gallente
Expert Systems
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Posted - 2006.10.25 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Twilight Moon
Full rack of Ham's?
/me imagines a butchers shop.
Yeah, I think you'll be able to push 350-400 in dps with the drake fitted with HAMs
But the rokh looks sweet, even with my crappy skills I can push antimatter up to 74 km in optimal 
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Rafein
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.10.25 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Synapse Archae
Edited by: Synapse Archae on 25/10/2006 08:44:20
The rokh is not the ship for T2 425s. If you have t2 guns, you can get a megathron up to that range, and reap a 5% damage reward. On the rokh all you get is wayy more range than you could ever use.
I'll have to confirm this post-release, but my thought is the experienced pilots with the t2 guns will stay with the damage bonus on the megathron, and the rokh will be used to get those without t2 gunnery into long range fleets.
Actually, i agree with this, Mega can get more damage and tracking, and is probaby stil a better sniper, though you give up a lot for it.
Rokh is more to allow Caldari to be useful in fleets, giving them instant damage, and to get younger players into fleets, no longer needing Tech 2 to hit targets.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.25 09:04:00 -
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I will use the Rohk in PvP. I'll also keep using the raven. They're both good ships. I'll also keep using the scorp.
All around, I think the portfolio is pretty good.
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