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Jazz Bo Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:29:00 - [91] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Xendie wasnt it your alliance that had a 3-1 loss ratio against Celest/Outbreak up in fountain? I won every single fight I was part of up there. There's an angle for every spin and a spin for every angle. Translation: "I haven't killed a Celes member since 2004". If you're going to fall back to the usual "Oh but I was there with another account", please post with that other account instead. Quote: Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew... squishhh
Icomeinpeace Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:31:00 - [92] Originally by: Blacklight Anyway, when we come for that station in full force, as we will, are Celes going to fight for it alongside their new buddies? BL I can answer that. Celes will be in core docked or at deep ss, maybe if no bob are around they will camp a gate. Pick one of those.
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:31:00 - [93] Originally by: Frater Perdurabo Originally by: Icomeinpeace Originally by: Xendie Originally by: Icomeinpeace So ASCN can't face bob, just like celes, and just like celes they resort to picking on weaker and les organized target. Why do this you may wonder?The answer is simple.They need something to pick up their moral, and what beter thing to do than go against someone you know you can beat easier and beat your chests about it. Lame. ASCN/Celes make it sound as if they are fighting bob, but really they just want to fight someone who they can possible win against. Celes needs the attention, ASCN needs to save face. wasnt it your alliance that had a 3-1 loss ratio against Celest/Outbreak up in fountain? That happened yes, whats your point? I think his point is in his trousers (ahahahahahaha....) ahem.... sorry, i'll try again. I think his point was that your 1st post indicated that celes cant stand up to bob yet by bob standards if celes/outbreak had a better k/d ration on bob, then celes/outbreak must be better than bob. Mabye it's outbreak that is good and not celes? You Will Cry My Name
Ab Initio Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:36:00 - [94] Congratulations on the successfull siege of a friendly alliances station. It is good to see HC exploring other options available to them, specifically ones that play to your strengths. There is no place in war for foolish pride, nor is there any shame in utilizing allies to cover any inabilities you may have. Avoiding BoB, attacking a 3rd party outpost, and having Celes do your fighting for you, seems to indicate that HC is finally realising this. A lot is said about Celes, but there is certainly plenty you could learn from them. May your operation be as successfull as you hope, and may all that stront you used not be in vain :)
pershphanie Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:37:00 - [95] Originally by: Xendie Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Xendie is this the end of Xelas? Wow. Kind of apocalyptic of you dont you think? If only killing an alliance was as easy as temperarily taking a station. Sorry to disappoint, but ASCN have not won eve just yet. Although they seem very***y for an alliance who have yet to win a fleet battle so far. well the xelas that are left are getting chained far harder then the serpentis is in fountain. there are fewer and fewer xelas spawns everyday The same thing could be said about ASCN in paragon soul. Do you think ASCN is dead? Originally by:** CYVOK If you surrender now we will consider letting you guys keep Fountain. -CYVOK-
Jazz Bo Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:39:00 - [96] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Xendie Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Xendie is this the end of Xelas? Wow. Kind of apocalyptic of you dont you think? If only killing an alliance was as easy as temperarily taking a station. Sorry to disappoint, but ASCN have not won eve just yet. Although they seem very***y for an alliance who have yet to win a fleet battle so far. well the xelas that are left are getting chained far harder then the serpentis is in fountain. there are fewer and fewer xelas spawns everyday The same thing could be said about ASCN in paragon soul. Do you think ASCN is dead? Xelas only have this one region, Ascn have several. There is a difference between defeat and retreat (not that I really know what's going on in Paragon Soul). Quote:** Pew pew... ka-boom.... pew pew... squishhh
lethario desrtuction Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:42:00 - [97] We lost the outpost not the war !!! It was easy to get the outpost but lets see you hold on to it !!
Jor Myne Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:42:00 - [98] Pure comedy. BoB are plainly in the TPAR area waiting for ASCN to show up for a proper war. ASCN AND CELES "on a whim" turn up in great force in FA, nowhere near where the BoB forces are currently playing cards and roasting daed enemy nuts on camp fires, to take a single outpost owned by a single ally. Next, ASCN claim Xelas are dead (erm, lol?) and victory over BoB .... erm, lol? Spin is in the eye of the beholder, but if you really want some facts, come and watch BoB take the outpost back like candy from a baby, let's see the true might of ASCN/CELES defend their newly acquired "war winner" lol, seriously, I'm selling tickets....
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:44:00 - [99] Originally by: Jazz Bo Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Xendie wasnt it your alliance that had a 3-1 loss ratio against Celest/Outbreak up in fountain? I won every single fight I was part of up there. There's an angle for every spin and a spin for every angle. Translation: "I haven't killed a Celes member since 2004". If you're going to fall back to the usual "Oh but I was there with another account", please post with that other account instead. Oh yes how silly of me, I'll just mail all of Celes a list of my alts. If that's the best you can come up with log out and go to bed or something. So anyway, when we come to retake that station with a full fleet are Celes going to defend it?
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:47:00 - [100] Originally by: Blacklight So when we come for that station are Celes going to fight for it? Pos wars or just shooty shooty? Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Slowboat Interspace Trade Consortium	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:48:00 - [101] Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Xendie Originally by: pershphanie Originally by: Xendie is this the end of Xelas? Wow. Kind of apocalyptic of you dont you think? If only killing an alliance was as easy as temperarily taking a station. Sorry to disappoint, but ASCN have not won eve just yet. Although they seem very*****y for an alliance who have yet to win a fleet battle so far. well the xelas that are left are getting chained far harder then the serpentis is in fountain. there are fewer and fewer xelas spawns everyday The same thing could be said about ASCN in paragon soul. Do you think ASCN is dead? Uh.. BOB has not taken an ASCN station so the question is moot.
Slowboat Interspace Trade Consortium	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:51:00 - [102] And here is a question for all the BOB spinologists. Does BOB claim ownership of Fountain? If so then didn't Celes and ASCN just do what you begged them to do? Take an Outpost in YOUR space?
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:53:00 - [103] Originally by: Kaleeb Originally by: Blacklight So when we come for that station are Celes going to fight for it? Pos wars or just shooty shooty? Shooty shooty, I know you don't want to get into a logistics fight, even you guys would admit (or you're far madder than even I suspected) that you'd lose that before we even started! So will you defend it, in a purely shooty shooty fashion?
Assur Minmatar Stronghold corp Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:54:00 - [104] Originally by: Jor Myne Pure comedy. BoB are plainly in the TPAR area waiting for ASCN to show up for a proper war. ASCN AND CELES "on a whim" turn up in great force in FA, nowhere near where the BoB forces are currently playing cards and roasting daed enemy nuts on camp fires, to take a single outpost owned by a single ally. Next, ASCN claim Xelas are dead (erm, lol?) and victory over BoB .... erm, lol? Spin is in the eye of the beholder, but if you really want some facts, come and watch BoB take the outpost back like candy from a baby, let's see the true might of ASCN/CELES defend their newly acquired "war winner" lol, seriously, I'm selling tickets.... Actually i think its good strategy. A war isn't always won by direct confrontation but rather by forcing the enemy to split or overextend their forces. With ASCN now getting a foothold in fountain delve will be vulnerable from the north as well. Wars are never proper as you have put it.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:55:00 - [105] Originally by: Slowboat And here is a question for all the BOB spinologists. Does BOB claim ownership of Fountain? If so then didn't Celes and ASCN just do what you begged them to do? Take an Outpost in YOUR space? Hi partisan alt, if any BoB pilot gets into this debate with you then they are stupider than a very stupid thing suffering from stupiditous. You can discuss that and most of your other points with yourself as far as I am concered. Have fun in space.
analev godder The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:56:00 - [106] Originally by: pershphanie The same thing could be said about ASCN in paragon soul. Do you think ASCN is dead? Granted you have POSs up in our claimed space. I won't deny that. But you still don't own a station do you. I will grant that the station in PNQ is a Xelas one and not a bob one but still you claim fountain as far as i know. So my conclusion is you can not compare apples with melons do you.
MECHcore Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:59:00 - [107] Bring it on bastids , go on with your forumwarriors like this , once you will have to much enemies to handle. Then u gonna get kicked in the nuts , while i sit im my sweat soft chair enjoying my Jupiler beer watching with a happy face You lost ground today and thats it.
Doddy Omega Fleet Enterprises Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:01:00 - [108] Originally by: Nidhoggur Edited by: Nidhoggur on 25/10/2006 21:31:34 Originally by: Doddy And local peaked at 187 by the way Originally by: Gyrn Fzirth I was there for the takedown of 3 of the 4 large towers. Never once did local exceed 120. It may have been 187 BEFORE ascn showed up, but after they showed up it was never above 120. I'm not sure how long you were there for. There was a short time fairly early on as the ASCN support first moved into the system, where Celes were camping a gate. As the entire gang entered, local spiked well over 180, though I lack exact numbers. I see no evidence of Xelas trying to cause lag. Of the shuttles I got, not one showed evidence of bm spamming. P.S: Doddy I have your corpse in my cargo hold! Transfer me 25mil isk or I shall do naughty things to it. Glad someone backs me up - thaught i must of imagined it. As for the corpse - have pity it had a short unfulfilled life (jumpclone to outpost, undock, die)
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:03:00 - [109] Originally by: Brielle Edited by: Brielle on 25/10/2006 17:28:42 Originally by: Kryztal omg ASCN are taking a xelas station in fountain ! They like bypassed all BoB systems and went for a outpost on the other end of the galaxy owned by Xelas, its not like we are lacking in the outpost department in our space. Are you saying that Fountain isnt BoB space? They "bypassed BoBs systems" to take this outpost. ASCN take an outpost in Fountain and thats fine, its not a problem and Xelas are going to deal with it? Are you an offical BOB spokesperson because, frankly, thats an astonishing post. Brielle Hehe. This post made me smile :) Though, I'm saying nothing more in this thread. Just wanted to let you know I am smiling :)
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:10:00 - [110] Originally by: MECHcore Bring it on bastids , go on with your forumwarriors like this , once you will have to much enemies to handle. Then u gonna get kicked in the nuts , while i sit im my sweat soft chair enjoying my Jupiler beer watching with a happy face You lost ground today and thats it. So the answer to my question is what? When we come for that station are Celes going to defend it?
Isben Yamas COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:12:00 - [111] Go ascn and celes go !!! Isben
Aldee Federated Holdings	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:13:00 - [112] Originally by: MECHcore while i sit im my sweat soft chair EEEEWWWWW!
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:27:00 - [113] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Xendie wasnt it your alliance that had a 3-1 loss ratio against Celest/Outbreak up in fountain? I won every single fight I was part of up there. There's an angle for every spin and a spin for every angle. Well you must have been involed in about 1 or 2 then BL coz we gave BNC a kicking in terms of BS and ships destroyed also. Unlucky. Originally by: anonymous If you're being chased by a police dog, try not to go through a tunnel, then on to a little seesaw, then jump through a hoop of fire. They're trained for that.
Fuglife Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:31:00 - [114] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Xendie wasnt it your alliance that had a 3-1 loss ratio against Celest/Outbreak up in fountain? I won every single fight I was part of up there. There's an angle for every spin and a spin for every angle. Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers. _____ Awwwww did you just tell a porky pie? Unlucky. --- Lodhi ftg
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:35:00 - [115] You are all mad. why are u all arguing. the whole point of this was to take the outpost. the plan is never to hold onto it forever and have pos spamming wars, NO THANKS its just not somthing we do. we dont even have that many dreads, we have just about 0 pos logistics, we fight, thats pretty much it. its just nice to say we were there. we are just a small corp and know our limits. seems to me ppl on both sides are blinded by hate. Iv always said that fighting BOB on diff fronts is the key to success. d solo.
Assens Letta The Huns THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:36:00 - [116] Originally by: Xendie even more signs of total breakdown of decency by Xelas and horde pilots have been displayed. multiple ships loaded with bookmarks are reported to have been downed by the combined strike force in fountain. so far Zorba Leutius from the Huns and Major Stereotypd from Mass Murder Aggregate have been confirmed to that lame. low really low Xelas and HORDE. It is really amazing what some misinformed (or truly lying?) ppl can say what is your case Xendie? are u misinformed or are u just a liar? letÆs analyze what you state. u say that the finest example of things braking down in horde is members being reported using Bm¦s (possibly as an exploit) in their ship. lets say for argument sake that these Bm`s were being transported for someone and not to be used for the purposes that you say, thus not reflecting anything whatsoever. then I look at the F-E kill board (and F-E uses the same database that we do) and see that zorba Leutius has lost 2 harpys and 1 rifter.... in none of the killmails appears a single BM.... how can this happen? are u talking out of experience or is it pure Bull xendie? but wait.... this sort of claim comes from a pilot that has a medium time of corp. permanence of 1-2 months..... I can see that u really like the corps u are in... that or they donÆt like u.... I say that there may be some killmails that werenÆt posted or on our database (if so pls send and well happily update) but bear in mind that some guys like to transport Bm¦s to other players, sometimes those ships die, sometimes the pilot dies too, but claiming that its a sign of total breakdown is totally hilarious who are u and what do u claim to know? I donÆt care if u lived in 100 corps and if u have flown in fountain once or twice. as for Xelas and Horde breaking down... we have seen invasions from the north... we have seen FA... we have seen celes for a long time... all of this as gone by and yet The Huns and CP (and many others) remain in fountain. when all the fuss has cleared we will still be here... and we will still be looking to these remarks. Have fun gentleman. Originally by: xendie HORDE sent a rescue fleet that got annihilated. PS: yes... we lost 5 BS¦s and 1BC.... we are doomed now... we are bound to fly t1 frigs for the next 3 months..... get real m8
Slowboat Interspace Trade Consortium	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:37:00 - [117] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Slowboat And here is a question for all the BOB spinologists. Does BOB claim ownership of Fountain? If so then didn't Celes and ASCN just do what you begged them to do? Take an Outpost in YOUR space? Hi partisan alt, if any BoB pilot gets into this debate with you then they are stupider than a very stupid thing suffering from stupiditous. You can discuss that and most of your other points with yourself as far as I am concered. Have fun in space. How was that a partisan question? It was fairly straight forward. In fact it couldn't even be called smack. The answer to the first one is Yes, Bob claims ownership of Fountain. Which means, no matter who was renting the station from you, Celes and ASCN took one of your stations. But I forgot, if BOB can't spin it they will ignore it. Oh and for those, few, BOBor MC(in the other thread) telling them they should take a station you care about where you are... umm.. why in the hell would they give you the advantage? You react or you lose, you don't say "Pretty please, could you try to take this station over here where all of our ships are waiting for you?"
Buxaroo Black Dwarf Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:39:00 - [118] Edited by: Buxaroo on 25/10/2006 23:39:38 Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Buxaroo Umm, read Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy to get that jokenull ..wether I have read Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy... matters not.. I was asking a question, and GunganKlown thought it funny to answer it with a joke. (I have read it btw..not that its any of your goddam business)....... Dude, you need to chill. I was pointing out where the joke came from, not making fun of your lack of humor.
IonHammer Minmatar Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:45:00 - [119] Originally by: Toranya Faidutti I must admit to honest curiosity at why my former alliance ASCN is going after Xelas instead of BoB? Unless they are considering a tactical relocation of Ascenia out of Feyth/Eso/PS to Fountain, it seems more logical to defend their space and/or attack the attackers than to go off on a boondoggle. They did the same thing when I was in the alliance a couple months ago, went up North and left Stain wide open and Eso relatively undefended after securing D-F, and then lo and behold they lost the foothold when their pants were down. I am far from a tactical wiz but still it seems like repeated mistakes. I am saddened to see my former alliance so battered not only by enemy strength and tactics but by their own errors in judgment. I guess morale is not so good so its important to get a victory, if your not able to take on bob directly then indirectly is your next best thing. Still the direction is downhill, will be interesting to see what happens next. If thats your real life i'm very jealous - Petwraith
Pehova Mindtriq Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:56:00 - [120] Originally by: Blacklight So anyway, when we come to retake that station with a full fleet are Celes going to defend it? We go where the fights are even if some of bob like to think otherwise. We moved to YZ at first because Xelas was living there, 30 xelas in local was normal back then(now about 4 average). They then moved to a-1 so we moved after them. When they got their outpost they left a-1 so our option to get fights from them was to go to PNQY. We, combined with ASCN, took that system aswell all in hope that it would bring us good fights. ISK and region control doesn't interest us we want good fights and hopefully this last action will give us just that. Bring your fleet for some good old shooty shooty, we want that. As you said, we won't deny that you can do the POS war/logistic thing better than us. Celes/Toxin vs BOB

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