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Natasha Kerensky The Company Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:37:00 - [1] Originally by: TomB Sigfried The Scout is doing patrols in his alliance controlled space, he flies between bottleneck systems and scans for ships. He finds a fleet of enemies... He warps there in his covert ops but forgets to activate his covert ops cloaking device and gets instantly killed by flying oversized egos. I cant help but speculate that the LOCAL channel is going to change in KALI. Otherwise, there would really be no reason to do system scans like the above story states! WHATS GOING ON? THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME!!
MECTO	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:43:00 - [2] Edited by: MECTO on 25/10/2006 17:43:32 local is absolute and immense most useful cheat in eve using wise it can iverdue all it needs to be removed totaly - while u can seek invisible ships with recon Launcher - therese no need for local goddamit! REMOVE IT OR GRAPPLE WITH NERF BAT Originally by: Kusotarre I am awesome in fleets, everyone on teamspeak trembles in fear as my battlecry blasts through their headphones, heralding a new era of target-less randomosity.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:43:00 - [3] TomB is alive? :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Darius Shakor Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:46:00 - [4] This is happening with local Overview tags for standings now show in local, replacing the need for a massive buddy list that lags your client out. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=3
Locke DieDrake Human Information Virus	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Natasha Kerensky Originally by: TomB Sigfried The Scout is doing patrols in his alliance controlled space, he flies between bottleneck systems and scans for ships. He finds a fleet of enemies... He warps there in his covert ops but forgets to activate his covert ops cloaking device and gets instantly killed by flying oversized egos. I cant help but speculate that the LOCAL channel is going to change in KALI. Otherwise, there would really be no reason to do system scans like the above story states! WHATS GOING ON? THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME!! Silly mortal. The fiction has no relation to the game. All kinds of things could be infered from the backstory and ongoing fiction, but alas, the two are not actually related. Don't try and pull meaning from it. It's just a story. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________
MECTO	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:49:00 - [6] Originally by: Darius Shakor This is happening with local Overview tags for standings now show in local, replacing the need for a massive buddy list that lags your client out. that is totaly lame - u see from start that enemies in local etc - Eve Goes Carebear Originally by: Kusotarre I am awesome in fleets, everyone on teamspeak trembles in fear as my battlecry blasts through their headphones, heralding a new era of target-less randomosity.
Zeonos Hauler	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:54:00 - [7] make local. so your character first show "if" you type something in it :)
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:54:00 - [8] Originally by: MECTO Originally by: Darius Shakor This is happening with local Overview tags for standings now show in local, replacing the need for a massive buddy list that lags your client out. that is totaly lame - u see from start that enemies in local etc - Eve Goes Carebear Everybody was checking that info manually anyway, so there is no difference. Only better server performance. I like it... :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
MECTO	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:55:00 - [9] Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: MECTO Originally by: Darius Shakor This is happening with local Overview tags for standings now show in local, replacing the need for a massive buddy list that lags your client out. that is totaly lame - u see from start that enemies in local etc - Eve Goes Carebear Everybody was checking that info manually anyway, so there is no difference. Only better server performance. I like it... :) not ever1 don't lie - caldari don't checkin' Originally by: Kusotarre I am awesome in fleets, everyone on teamspeak trembles in fear as my battlecry blasts through their headphones, heralding a new era of target-less randomosity.
Niirun Nova Defense Industries	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:56:00 - [10] wouldnt' it be even less work on the server to remove it ?

Letouk Mernel	Posted - 2006.10.25 18:00:00 - [11] Wish they'd let us have a setting where the list of people in the channel is shown as text only, no portraits. It would compress it vertically a bit. Matter of fact, they could make it look like the overview.
Darkrogue Standard Operations Building Services Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.25 18:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Natasha Kerensky Originally by: TomB Sigfried The Scout is doing patrols in his alliance controlled space, he flies between bottleneck systems and scans for ships. He finds a fleet of enemies... He warps there in his covert ops but forgets to activate his covert ops cloaking device and gets instantly killed by flying oversized egos. I cant help but speculate that the LOCAL channel is going to change in KALI. Otherwise, there would really be no reason to do system scans like the above story states! WHATS GOING ON? THE SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME!! I dont know. But I like your name. Battletech ftw!
Jack Brimstone Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.10.25 18:09:00 - [13] I have to say, having seen it, I really like it. I know that there is a body of opinion that is pro-local removal, and it is a respectable argument, but not one I share. The reasons for the change probably twofold, both convenience and server performance, people in an empire war are likely to be checking this info anyway and it largely kills the need for a huge "buddylist of non-buddies". Whilst knowing little about the inner workings of eve, I would hazard a guess that people clicking "show info" on 150+ people in busy systems probably query (as in db-query) a lot more data than they actually need. I daresay that people who fail to pay attention to local, will still do so, so I don't anticipate any great changes other than the aforementioned. -------------------------------------------------
JoCool Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.10.25 18:13:00 - [14] Local needs to be completely removed. It takes all the dice out of the game! _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool
Blue Rider Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.10.25 18:26:00 - [15] I really like it. I would have been happy with local removed all together or this. Trying to look up info on each person in local and having to wait for the image, employment history, etc to load was just no good.
Artthana Minmatar	Posted - 2006.10.25 18:31:00 - [16] Originally by: Blue Rider I really like it. I would have been happy with local removed all together or this. Trying to look up info on each person in local and having to wait for the image, employment history, etc to load was just no good. Yay possible lag reduction
Irashi Caldari Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.25 18:43:00 - [17] Originally by: MECTO therese no need for local goddamit! Well short of making people maintain constant gatecamps all around their territory, local is the only way people have of detecting cov-ops flying alt scouts... Isn't that right Mecto... ¼_¼ Local would have to be replaced by something, maybe something like surveylance drones that you can plant in a system or near a gate to monitor what comes through then notifies you, your corp or alliance if it sees anything that isn't blue. Or would that be even worse than local Dominix, Nosferatu, ECM, Webber, Tank, Drones, Spare cash, Insurance, No implants, Reckless attitude, Unresolved personal issues: Win
Taram Caldar Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.10.25 18:52:00 - [18] Originally by: MECTO Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: MECTO Originally by: Darius Shakor This is happening with local Overview tags for standings now show in local, replacing the need for a massive buddy list that lags your client out. that is totaly lame - u see from start that enemies in local etc - Eve Goes Carebear Everybody was checking that info manually anyway, so there is no difference. Only better server performance. I like it... :) not ever1 don't lie - caldari don't checkin' chuckles Ok everyone with half a brain was already checking it. Which means everyone who's spent more than 3 hours in 0.0 or lowsec. Which means a crapload of players. Which means adding this will vastly reduce the info requests going on which will hopefully reduce server lag. All it means is we get the same info we already did without having to constantly spam the server with 'info' requests. I love it. <3 CCP
Paddlefoot Aeon Neogen Industries Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2006.10.25 18:55:00 - [19] Originally by: Irashi Originally by: MECTO therese no need for local goddamit! Well short of making people maintain constant gatecamps all around their territory, local is the only way people have of detecting cov-ops flying alt scouts... Isn't that right Mecto... ¼_¼ Local would have to be replaced by something, maybe something like surveylance drones that you can plant in a system or near a gate to monitor what comes through then notifies you, your corp or alliance if it sees anything that isn't blue. I'm pretty sure that having all these drones from all these different corps alliances all over the the galaxay, would lag the entire system. Corps would have sensors in every system they go into, in the case of a WarDec. Can you think of how many sensors would be in Jita?!? Or would that be even worse than local
St Dragon Blood Association of Dragons	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:01:00 - [20] Originally by: MECTO Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: MECTO Originally by: Darius Shakor This is happening with local Overview tags for standings now show in local, replacing the need for a massive buddy list that lags your client out. that is totaly lame - u see from start that enemies in local etc - Eve Goes Carebear Everybody was checking that info manually anyway, so there is no difference. Only better server performance. I like it... :) not ever1 don't lie - caldari don't checkin' Quite your whining you got your WCS fix afterall this local change just gives something for the non pvp person and the pvp hunter ----------------------------------------------- "Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand

Irashi Caldari Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:07:00 - [21] That post needs fixing :/ Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon I'm pretty sure that having all these drones from all these different corps alliances all over the the galaxay, would lag the entire system. Corps would have sensors in every system they go into, in the case of a WarDec. Can you think of how many sensors would be in Jita?!? Then they can come with some restrictions. for example they could deactivate or wander off unless you visit them every 3 days or so, can't use them in high sec, can't deploy more than 5, can't deploy more than one per system, must be at least 100km from stations and gates, high skill requirements, costly... There's loads of ways you could dream up to make sure that you don't get thosands clogging up Jita. Though I'd personally be in favour of just closing off all stargates into Jita too many tards in one place. Dominix, Nosferatu, ECM, Webber, Tank, Drones, Spare cash, Insurance, No implants, Reckless attitude, Unresolved personal issues: Win
Great Artista Veto.	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:25:00 - [22] K im gonna say my friend, Kala Veijo's, idea and claim it as my own. Remove Local completelley. Replace it with Constellation channel, thet works like the current Local. ___________________________________ ___________________________________
Soraya Silvermoon Never'where	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:33:00 - [23] Remove local
MeGrand Gallente Phoenix Knights	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:41:00 - [24] Leave local as it is Vital keeping me safe mesure And good for being socable I don't get it, you want people to go out to un secure space - but remove one of the vtal tools for staying safe out thier - good god NO All the right letters - just not nessacarily in the right order
Kala Veijo Veto.	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:45:00 - [25] Originally by: Great Artista K im gonna say my friend, Kala Veijo's, idea and claim it as my own. Remove Local completelley. Replace it with Constellation channel, thet works like the current Local. Meh, you know. I copied that idea from forums
Tribunal FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:46:00 - [26] Originally by: Soraya Silvermoon Edited by: Soraya Silvermoon on 25/10/2006 19:38:25 Remove local in 0.0 /strongly disagree Local helps provide PvP encounters. If there was no local then PvPers would spend 98% of their time flying around trying to find a target instead of the 80% of the time that it is now. "We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers
Irashi Caldari Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:48:00 - [27] Originally by: Great Artista Remove Local completelley. Replace it with Constellation channel, thet works like the current Local. Oh god, imagine Kimotoro... Jita and Kisogo locals being combined into one big horrible spamfest of noobishness. Dominix, Nosferatu, ECM, Webber, Tank, Drones, Spare cash, Insurance, No implants, Reckless attitude, Unresolved personal issues: Win
MECTO	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:49:00 - [28] Edited by: MECTO on 25/10/2006 19:52:09 Originally by: MeGrand Leave local as it is Vital keeping me safe mesure And good for being socable I don't get it, you want people to go out to un secure space - but remove one of the vtal tools for staying safe out thier - good god NO considering that Phoenix Knights is one of the carebearing corp out there - u don't like this idea. It's Great Being Carebear in Kali - isn't it? Originally by: Kusotarre I am awesome in fleets, everyone on teamspeak trembles in fear as my battlecry blasts through their headphones, heralding a new era o
Kapitanleutnant Mei	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:58:00 - [29] local with the new carebear feature swill be just the same in lowsec /0.0 but its going to ruin empire PVP wars were you couldn't reallisticaly check everyone before :(.. at least it will until factional warfare
Serapis Aote TBC	Posted - 2006.10.25 20:03:00 - [30] Originally by: Kala Veijo Originally by: Great Artista K im gonna say my friend, Kala Veijo's, idea and claim it as my own. Remove Local completelley. Replace it with Constellation channel, thet works like the current Local. Meh, you know. I copied that idea from forums I also saw this on the boards a long time ago...forget who was the first to bring it up, but really seems like the best option to me. Although i think it might have been Rod from evol. Still a chat tool, still a surveilance tool, but is not a replacement for your ships scanner like it is now.



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