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Rochel Hakiri
Lordless Unbrella Alliance
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:19:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Deadeye Dave
Originally by: Rochel Hakiri I really like to be killed by "Famous" people.
Interesting, so if a Pirate/PvPer becomes famous he doesn't need to go looking for victims because the victims will come looking for him and sacrafice themselves for a moment of fame?
Well its not really sacrafice, i try to defend myself, but i think the best part of this game is that you can meet anyone, anywhere. And its not like im stalking these guys, I think its just cool that i see them flying in the same system as me. I mean before i started to play EvE i allready knew Itsvaan, its cool to actually see them playing the game. Its like being shot by Madonna . And since im a forum ***** i got to know who's famous and such. Its also nice to find out first hand why these guys are famous and feared . And at least i can brag if I got to kill any of those famous guy's (if ever). Better then losing a ship to gate guns, which happend to me several times before.
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Deadeye Dave
Amarr DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:23:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Rochel Hakiri And at least i can brag if I got to kill any of those famous guy's (if ever).
I know someone who killed Dark Shikari 
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Dust Rocket
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:35:00 -
[153]
The sad part is that he(Lofty) is so proud of himself.
Kisogo ---->is this way head there more easy kills.
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Jiano Hito
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:37:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Deadeye Dave
Originally by: Rochel Hakiri And at least i can brag if I got to kill any of those famous guy's (if ever).
I know someone who killed Dark Shikari 
He said famous people, not forum *****s.
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hellwarrior
Caldari Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.10.29 00:48:00 -
[155]
thats not a 4b isk cnr tbh. 
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Celestal
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Posted - 2006.10.29 01:38:00 -
[156]
I think lofty does an admirable job
we dont want noobs whining for help on local we dont want want more players we want less so lag is minimised we want trial accounts to come on die a few times so people like lofty can get warm n wet with their `pvp` kill ratio , then the noobs disappear to swg cs or anywhere else . we have to give people like lofty easy kills so he keeps playing , i mean he failed as a proper pvp player but come on hes paid his subs so deserves easy kills ( he cant get them any other way ).
So any `noob` asking for help on local is either lotty , or a lotty29 wannabee , or a lag causing noob , so DO NOT HELP them , do everything you can to make their game experience as unpleasant as possible to try get them off the server .
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Snarls McGee
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Posted - 2006.10.29 02:00:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Trinity Faetal Convo me in-game i will buy you a new navy raven with full estamel kit, plz don't quit! 
Wouldn't all that money be better spent on hiring mercs than on someone ready to quit?
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 02:13:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Nyphur on 29/10/2006 02:18:49
Originally by: Aakron Yer but if you join the gang, then lofty gangs his 2 warring alts, he can fire on you and you dont get the warning.
It is a really lame way to pvp
THIS is abuse of game mechanics. In fact, it may be an exploit. I'd say it's legitimate if he's taking advantage of a player's temporary confusion, for example if he doesn't read the warning. It's not legitimate if he physically cannot resist it. This means anyone in any gang can be killed without warning just by the gang leader inviting some alts he has made that are at war with him.
Anyone who would say this is normal use of game mechanics needs their head checked. File an exploit petition. Lofty won't be banned, of course, but maybe the GMs can discuss it.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 02:17:00 -
[159]
Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 29/10/2006 02:18:40
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Aakron Yer but if you join the gang, then lofty gangs his 2 warring alts, he can fire on you and you dont get the warning.
It is a really lame way to pvp
THIS is abuse of game mechanics.
CCP and the gamemasters disagree with you, as usual there are no bugs or exploits in eve. Theres no lag either. And no logs. No wait theres logs but they dont show a anything. Right now of course, logs do show things in other situations. Sometimes. -----
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.29 02:45:00 -
[160]
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/10/2006 02:46:32
Originally by: Deadeye Dave
Originally by: Rochel Hakiri And at least i can brag if I got to kill any of those famous guy's (if ever).
I know someone who killed Dark Shikari 
Only one person?
I die all the time .
I'm nearly an automatic primary in fleet combat, its scared me away from fleets lately 
Originally by: Nyphur In fact, it may be an exploit.
Unfortunately for the mission runners of the world flying eBay-bought faction ships, GMs have said a number of times that it is not an exploit  
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 02:53:00 -
[161]
Edited by: lofty29 on 29/10/2006 02:54:11
Originally by: Rochel Hakiri Lofty killed my hawk the other day, so we tried to kill him, but instaed we got to kill an Absolution, was cool aswell :) Besides the Hawk is a ****ty ship. Anyways I really like to be killed by "Famous" people. Yesterday Blindman killed me, never been that happy before. I allmost got killed by Keta-Min (best name evar). And wierchas noobhunter killed me once aswell. If only Itsvaan or Sirmolle would kill me ..
ah well a man can dream aint it??
Dont forget the apoc, ferox, moa... You guys are good punching bags! But you killed that camping absol in Seyllin? D'aww, I was gonna pay them a visit with the vindicator  ---
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 02:59:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Nyphur In fact, it may be an exploit.
Unfortunately for the mission runners of the world flying eBay-bought faction ships, GMs have said a number of times that it is not an exploit  
It should be. Can you honestly tell me that you think the war system is intended to be used like this? The system is designed so that one corp can wardec another and fight them, not so you can wardec your friend so you can be invited into their gang and kill their gangmates. By definition, it's abuse of game mechanics. If considered not an exploit, it should be.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.29 03:22:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Nyphur In fact, it may be an exploit.
Unfortunately for the mission runners of the world flying eBay-bought faction ships, GMs have said a number of times that it is not an exploit  
It should be. Can you honestly tell me that you think the war system is intended to be used like this? The system is designed so that one corp can wardec another and fight them, not so you can wardec your friend so you can be invited into their gang and kill their gangmates. By definition, it's abuse of game mechanics. If considered not an exploit, it should be.
Yeah, it should be fixed, I agree. But the GMs also say logging out of bubbles is fine  
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 03:34:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Nyphur In fact, it may be an exploit.
Unfortunately for the mission runners of the world flying eBay-bought faction ships, GMs have said a number of times that it is not an exploit  
It should be. Can you honestly tell me that you think the war system is intended to be used like this? The system is designed so that one corp can wardec another and fight them, not so you can wardec your friend so you can be invited into their gang and kill their gangmates. By definition, it's abuse of game mechanics. If considered not an exploit, it should be.
Yeah, it should be fixed, I agree. But the GMs also say logging out of bubbles is fine  
That and they think entire fleets logging on in a single spot just as the enemy convoy passed by because they all felt like playing eve is a pretty good reason as to why login traps tend to happen.
Face it, when it comes to exploiting the GMs are worthless and CCP doesnt care. -----
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BLAIYNE
Shadow Play
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Posted - 2006.10.29 09:34:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
CCP and the gamemasters disagree with you, as usual there are no bugs or exploits in eve. Theres no lag either. And no logs. No wait theres logs but they dont show a anything. Right now of course, logs do show things in other situations. Sometimes.

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Deathhawk
Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.29 09:39:00 -
[166]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Deathhawk lofty is overrated lol
omg im in a lofty thread 
Its an MMXMMX thread actually
Damn always wrong lol I ROCK - DH
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Phillis Stein
Caldari Serenity Prime
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Posted - 2006.10.29 10:03:00 -
[167]
Edited by: Phillis Stein on 29/10/2006 10:03:55 Didnt have time to read 6 pages, too busy playing, so someone might have already suggested this.
Leave the Gang next time. It worked for a friend of mine. It might be a bug but concorde killed the Sneaky Varmit. My friend was a new player so the nasty deserved it. http://www.pixelopia.co.uk/files/signature.jpg |

Nyphur
Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 11:10:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Phillis Stein Edited by: Phillis Stein on 29/10/2006 10:03:55 Didnt have time to read 6 pages, too busy playing, so someone might have already suggested this.
Leave the Gang next time. It worked for a friend of mine. It might be a bug but concorde killed the Sneaky Varmit. My friend was a new player so the nasty deserved it.
In that case, it IS taking advantage of the pilot's confusion and is legitimate. If the pilot attacks back, he's dead. Otherwise he can just leave the gang and he's not a valid target any more. Nice.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Nyphur In fact, it may be an exploit.
Unfortunately for the mission runners of the world flying eBay-bought faction ships, GMs have said a number of times that it is not an exploit  
Petition those that say that. Dont assume that all mission runners need to run to ebay for good stuff.
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Phillis Stein Edited by: Phillis Stein on 29/10/2006 10:03:55 Didnt have time to read 6 pages, too busy playing, so someone might have already suggested this.
Leave the Gang next time. It worked for a friend of mine. It might be a bug but concorde killed the Sneaky Varmit. My friend was a new player so the nasty deserved it.
In that case, it IS taking advantage of the pilot's confusion and is legitimate. If the pilot attacks back, he's dead. Otherwise he can just leave the gang and he's not a valid target any more. Nice.
It happens that you can still be shot after leaving the gang due to a timer for session change for some minutes (dunno the exact time).
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.29 12:27:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Nyphur
In that case, it IS taking advantage of the pilot's confusion and is legitimate. If the pilot attacks back, he's dead. Otherwise he can just leave the gang and he's not a valid target any more. Nice.
Huh?
The instant Lofty fires, the mission runner can fire back. Not only that... the mission runner can fire back for up to 15 minutes after Lofty stops firing.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 12:35:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Nyphur
In that case, it IS taking advantage of the pilot's confusion and is legitimate. If the pilot attacks back, he's dead. Otherwise he can just leave the gang and he's not a valid target any more. Nice.
Huh?
The instant Lofty fires, the mission runner can fire back. Not only that... the mission runner can fire back for up to 15 minutes after Lofty stops firing.
Yes but the poster said that as soon as his friend left the gang, he stopped being a valid target. That suggests that as long as you don't attack back, you won't be flagged as a target to your attackers for agression but only for the war gang thing. So if you leave the gang, you're not a target and CONCORD step in.
At least that's how I read it.
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Hellspawn01
Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: Nyphur
In that case, it IS taking advantage of the pilot's confusion and is legitimate. If the pilot attacks back, he's dead. Otherwise he can just leave the gang and he's not a valid target any more. Nice.
Huh?
The instant Lofty fires, the mission runner can fire back. Not only that... the mission runner can fire back for up to 15 minutes after Lofty stops firing.
I want to see how you fire back when you are getting jammed by his mates and fired upon by at least 2 BS with guns, drones, nos and whatnot and your corp just can sit there and watch how you die without a chance to help you.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.10.29 14:03:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 29/10/2006 14:04:13
Originally by: Hellspawn01
I want to see how you fire back when you are getting jammed by his mates and fired upon by at least 2 BS with guns, drones, nos and whatnot and your corp just can sit there and watch how you die without a chance to help you.
Lofty always flies alone.
Originally by: Nyphur
Yes but the poster said that as soon as his friend left the gang, he stopped being a valid target. That suggests that as long as you don't attack back, you won't be flagged as a target to your attackers for agression but only for the war gang thing. So if you leave the gang, you're not a target and CONCORD step in.
Once Lofty has fired upon you, whether you fire back or not, you cannot save yourself by leaving the gang.
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hellspawn01 It happens that you can still be shot after leaving the gang due to a timer for session change for some minutes (dunno the exact time).
Its funny how little you know. Session change timer? Minutes long? As soon as they leave the gang, I can no longer shoot them. ---
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Hellspawn01
Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 14:07:00 -
[175]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Hellspawn01 It happens that you can still be shot after leaving the gang due to a timer for session change for some minutes (dunno the exact time).
Its funny how little you know. Session change timer? Minutes long? As soon as they leave the gang, I can no longer shoot them.
I know ppl that experienced this.
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.10.29 14:19:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Hellspawn01
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Hellspawn01 It happens that you can still be shot after leaving the gang due to a timer for session change for some minutes (dunno the exact time).
Its funny how little you know. Session change timer? Minutes long? As soon as they leave the gang, I can no longer shoot them.
I know ppl that experienced this.
Ppl? SRSLY?! If the person engaging the gang-victim gets aggro before they leave the gang there is a 15 minute agression timer, par norm, which is refreshed whenever the victim is attacked again. I guess you mean your friend in the machariel who lost his domination gear? I aggroed before he left the gang, then he shot my alt and got concordokkened. Concord always leave the best loot  ---
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.10.30 00:56:00 -
[177]
Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 30/10/2006 01:00:04
Originally by: Trinity Faetal Convo me in-game i will buy you a new navy raven with full estamel kit, plz don't quit! 
You're looking at around 40bil or more for the tank alone.
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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fnar g
The Devil's Rejects
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Posted - 2006.10.30 07:15:00 -
[178]
Originally by: lofty29 Why not ask the nub to make a bookmark of where his mission is so you can warp in and do it 100% risk-free?
You moving into POS ganking now lofty? 
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Micheal Cassio
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Posted - 2006.10.30 08:20:00 -
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how do you take pride in killin ppl this way, you give pirates a bad name...
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wierchas noobhunter
Caldari Praxiteles Inc. E N I G M A
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Posted - 2006.10.30 10:05:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Rochel Hakiri Lofty killed my hawk the other day, so we tried to kill him, but instaed we got to kill an Absolution, was cool aswell :) Besides the Hawk is a ****ty ship. Anyways I really like to be killed by "Famous" people. Yesterday Blindman killed me, never been that happy before. I allmost got killed by Keta-Min (best name evar). And wierchas noobhunter killed me once aswell. If only Itsvaan or Sirmolle would kill me ..
ah well a man can dream aint it??
wow i killed u ? well thats make u cool tbh ^^
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