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2Sonas1Cup
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Posted - 2015.04.13 01:07:36 -
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In between all your characters, what is the MAXIMUM ISK per hour you can top if you really want?
Ill start, in between 3 accounts my maximum ISK per hour is about ~550-600 million.
That is without counting on the trading and logistics time I need to actually reach that amount
Obviously its a little less than that if I include the trading and logistics.
What about you?
Who got the biggest E-PEEN here?? 
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Hengle Teron
Just Another Corp XIV
45670
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Posted - 2015.04.13 01:17:59 -
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The going rate is ~800 mil per click now, I believe. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
1288
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Posted - 2015.04.13 01:19:07 -
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That is fascinating. What do you accomplish with your ISK?
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
646
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Posted - 2015.04.13 01:19:43 -
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Does one time corp theft counts? I mean it has a high ISK/hr income that diminishes over time from the time you did the corp theft unless you do it again.
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
27171
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Posted - 2015.04.13 01:20:44 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:The going rate is ~800 mil per click now, I believe.
This.
So theoretically as many clicks as you could fit into an hour.
Presuming I had enough RL funds to keep buying plex and hitting "sell".
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2Sonas1Cup
71
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Posted - 2015.04.13 01:22:21 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Does one time corp theft counts? I mean it has a high ISK/hr income that diminishes over time from the time you did the corp theft unless you do it again.
Corp the doesn't happen exactly when you want.
So yea you can't count those. |
Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
646
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Posted - 2015.04.13 01:23:55 -
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Candi LeMew wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:The going rate is ~800 mil per click now, I believe. This. So theoretically as many clicks as you could fit into an hour. Presuming I had enough RL funds to keep buying plex and hitting "sell".
Assuming you have infinite funds, how fast do you think you can crash plex prices?
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
Somethin Awfull Forums
574
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Posted - 2015.04.13 02:12:34 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:The going rate is ~800 mil per click now, I believe.
Assume a tic is an hr, if we play 20 hrs a week a very casual amount for EVE. That's 16 Billion ISK a month, 180 billion a year.
it costs less than 10 billion to plex an account for a year.
Translation: The number is rubbish.
R.I.P. Vile Rat
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
CODE.
12608
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Posted - 2015.04.13 02:24:06 -
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Yang Aurilen wrote:Candi LeMew wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:The going rate is ~800 mil per click now, I believe. This. So theoretically as many clicks as you could fit into an hour. Presuming I had enough RL funds to keep buying plex and hitting "sell". Assuming you have infinite funds, how fast do you think you can crash plex prices?
Ask Chribba. Pretty sure the game will die once that guy cashes out on the trit market.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
35849
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Posted - 2015.04.13 02:39:45 -
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Not to steal someone else's saying, but I prefer a high fun/hour.
It's just unfortunate that fun/hour is inversely proportional to ISK/hour.
So not enough is the answer, variable at best. Sometimes I'll score a good loot, other times they just don't happen.
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Lykouleon
Trust Doesn't Rust
Triumvirate.
1537
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Posted - 2015.04.13 02:49:10 -
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'bout tree fiddy.
Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER so I can hit them with my sword
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
2100
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Posted - 2015.04.13 02:56:33 -
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I have no idea. I frankly don't try. |
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics
CODE.
134
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Posted - 2015.04.13 03:57:03 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Not to steal someone else's saying, but I prefer a high fun/hour.
It's just unfortunate that fun/hour is inversely proportional to ISK/hour.
So not enough is the answer, variable at best. Sometimes I'll score good loot, other times they just don't happen.
ISK/hr = grind/fun
If fun is low, grind is high and ISK is good. If fun is high, grind is low and so is ISK. Just my look at it.
It is the long and exhausting grinding that makes the grinded stuff fun to lose - especially if it was grinded by someone else. |
Lupe Meza
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
104
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Posted - 2015.04.13 04:05:04 -
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Ioci wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:The going rate is ~800 mil per click now, I believe. Assume a tic is an hr, if we play 20 hrs a week a very casual amount for EVE. That's 16 Billion ISK a month, 180 billion a year. it costs less than 10 billion to plex an account for a year. Translation: The number is rubbish. Sustainable income in EVE is around 12-15 mill an hr.
20 Hours a week is casual? What the hell is below casual then? Because if it doesn't exist they need to make it for me. 20 hrs casual? Jesus. |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
1029
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Posted - 2015.04.13 04:25:54 -
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according to the stats website thingys I made 20mil/hour pretty consistently for the years it kept track of that sort of thing. of course that tracks all the time I was online, and I like to chat/ship spin/IDLE quite a bit so adjust however. My trade alt was over 100m/hour, but that also includes selling all my loot.
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
111
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Posted - 2015.04.13 04:43:51 -
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https://spreadsheetsin.space/year-in-review/#
Would give you some idea on where you currently are. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
8360
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Posted - 2015.04.13 04:57:40 -
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Quote:How much ISK can you make per hour?
About 30 billion if it's the right hour and nothing if it's the wrong one.
Mr Epeen 
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Ferni Ka'Nviiou
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
12509
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Posted - 2015.04.13 05:30:17 -
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I make around -2 million an hour killing Drifters.
Wait what? I thought that was pretty good!
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Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
218
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Posted - 2015.04.13 06:12:13 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:The going rate is ~800 mil per click now, I believe.
******* awesome !!
Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really.
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Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
79
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Posted - 2015.04.13 07:08:32 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:In between all your characters, what is the MAXIMUM ISK per hour you can top if you really want? Ill start, in between 3 accounts my maximum ISK per hour is about ~550-600 million. That is without counting on the trading and logistics time I need to actually reach that amount Obviously its a little less than that if I include the trading and logistics. What about you? Who got the biggest E-PEEN here??
C4 space? |
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
328
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Posted - 2015.04.13 07:53:15 -
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circa 750mil an hour not even logged in
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Crawlblood
17
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Posted - 2015.04.13 07:58:13 -
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my mind is telling me 21 and my body, my body is telling me 420...what does it mean?
Rude, Obnoxious and somewhat in you face.
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Brutus Utama
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
14
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Posted - 2015.04.13 08:00:17 -
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Not sure what you guys are doing to get so many iskies i make probley 150m per hour if im lucky. |
Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
328
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Posted - 2015.04.13 08:02:57 -
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Brutus Utama wrote:Not sure what you guys are doing to get so many iskies i make probley 150m per hour if im lucky.
nullsec sov ratting or wormholes is probably the only way to make high amounts
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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Nana Skalski
Poseidaon
89
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Posted - 2015.04.13 08:11:23 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:In between all your characters, what is the MAXIMUM ISK per hour you can top if you really want?
If exploration is included, that guarding EVE Gate from Blood raiders is quite profitable. I made 1 B in drop from commander yesterday running 6/10. It was something like hour or hour and a half.
Time since Project Legion last news
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Stacy Lone
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2015.04.13 09:19:44 -
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~100M / h with L4s.
More with 0.0 ratting, even morw in wspace.
You can make ~2-3B /H with 5-6 ppl in C5/C6 space with escals. Thats about 500m/h per person. But unlike L4s, you can not do it all day since the amount of anoms is limited. You can maybe do 2-3, on good days 5-6 anoms, depending on how many you have, so about 1-3h/day.
If you want "unlimited" supply, either do 0.0 ratting in upgraded systems or L4s if you don't own sov. |
Sequester Risalo
Significant Others
105
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Posted - 2015.04.13 09:34:39 -
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Last time I was in Jita there were plenty alts of Nullsec Alliance CEOs who will double your ISK for free. So you can make billions just by giving huge amounts of cash to these people. I never knew it's that easy. |
Hector Skunk
Highsecberg.
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Posted - 2015.04.13 09:53:25 -
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Fascinating! May I ask why people prefer converting lifetime to ISK, instead of converting money to ISK? It seems to have the best conversion rate and thus also offers the highest amount of fun per hour, as less time is wasted for making money.
I am Hector Skunk. - "Tisiphone Dira > I feel bullied."
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
15592
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Posted - 2015.04.13 09:59:51 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:Fascinating! May I ask why people prefer converting lifetime to ISK, instead of converting money to ISK? It seems to have the best conversion rate and thus also offers the highest amount of fun per hour, as less time is wasted for making money.
I realise that work in the real life costs time as well, but the gain is much higher.
Id rather use rl cash on holidays than internet spaceships. You can earn hefty sums of isk afk anyway.
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Ro Fenrios
Armilies corporation
Balcora Gatekeepers
74
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Posted - 2015.04.13 10:04:18 -
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I'm losing around 30milj isk hour. Sometimes more depending on how much fun I have. Still far from bankrupt though. |
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Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction
The Good Christian Society
181
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Posted - 2015.04.13 10:55:33 -
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About 1.5 billion an hour if I decide to stay late at work.
KB Link
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
111
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Posted - 2015.04.13 11:42:31 -
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Kessiaan wrote:About 1.5 billion an hour if I decide to stay late at work.
Hey Walter, is quality same high and you cocking the ' blue ' one? |
Dextrome Thorphan
Blohm and Voss Shipyards Alliance
120
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Posted - 2015.04.13 11:44:21 -
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Ioci wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:The going rate is ~800 mil per click now, I believe. Assume a tic is an hr, if we play 20 hrs a week a very casual amount for EVE. That's 16 Billion ISK a month, 180 billion a year. it costs less than 10 billion to plex an account for a year. Translation: The number is rubbish. Sustainable income in EVE is around 12-15 mill an hr.
He obviously ment buying plex with rl cash and selling it for isk  hence per click and not per tick (in-game tick = 20min)  |
Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
236
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Posted - 2015.04.13 11:44:38 -
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10-20mil/hr low sec ratting with a fair chance at some fat rats or fancy tags. Same for high sec mining minus the fat rats or fancy tags or fun or excitement.
GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½
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Dextrome Thorphan
Blohm and Voss Shipyards Alliance
120
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Posted - 2015.04.13 11:45:25 -
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I get on average 20mill per tick per character, doing nullsec anoms btw |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10702
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Posted - 2015.04.13 13:42:21 -
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baltec1 wrote:Hector Skunk wrote:Fascinating! May I ask why people prefer converting lifetime to ISK, instead of converting money to ISK? It seems to have the best conversion rate and thus also offers the highest amount of fun per hour, as less time is wasted for making money.
I realize that work in the real life costs time as well, but the gain is much higher. Id rather use rl cash on holidays than internet spaceships. You can earn hefty sums of isk afk anyway.
Amen and +1 to that. While I'm glad people decide to use rl money for plex (which feeds the plex market I survive on) it's mystifying to me how incredibly bad one has to be to not be able to accumulate 27 million isk per day (the daily price of a plex) per character.
Hmm, 20 minutes a day of doing some kind of pve in a video game while drinking beer and watching that hot bleached blonde dragon chick with the "suggestive lips" from Game of Thrones on my other monitor, OR getting dressed, driving to work and working overtime while usually not drinking beer?
Hmmm, tough choice there.  |
Hector Skunk
Highsecberg.
20
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Posted - 2015.04.13 14:42:00 -
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Calling it "being bad" doesn't make you look "good". I understand that not everyone can afford this, but there is nothing superior in wasting even 20 minutes on something completely unnecessary. That's 20 minutes a day I can use for something better.
I am Hector Skunk. - "Tisiphone Dira > I feel bullied."
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Hector Skunk
Highsecberg.
20
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Posted - 2015.04.13 14:47:46 -
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I apologize for expressing myself in a way you might not understand, so I will try to go down to your level.
"lol poor noob has no money for PLEX get a job loser"
I feel bad for talking this way and I hope you realize that your post makes you look like a teenager.
Good day, Ms. Aside.
I am Hector Skunk. - "Tisiphone Dira > I feel bullied."
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10702
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Posted - 2015.04.13 14:49:28 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:Calling it "being bad" doesn't make you look "good". I understand that not everyone can afford this, but there is nothing superior in wasting even 20 minutes on something completely unnecessary. That's 20 minutes a day I can use for something better.
Oddly, that's the point. The "get a job" people are the ones that look down their noses at people who are good at making in game isk (and who thusly use plex to pay their subs). I have a job, but since pve is easy and I enjoy it, I just do that instead. Most of the 'get a job and buy a plex' folks are PVP-only types who are kind of incapable of understanding that 'fun' is subjective.
I'm simply saying "good for you if you think working a real job just to play a video game is the way to go, ima be butt ass naked drinking beer playing that same video game and plexing while you sweat". |
Hector Skunk
Highsecberg.
20
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Posted - 2015.04.13 14:55:51 -
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I'm sorry for touching your nerves. I promise I will not do it again. You are, of course, not only the better player, but also the better person. The 20 minutes you spend on your TV getting off by looking at a character on screen you will never be able to touch or talk to clearly beat how I spend my time.
I'm sorry for even replying to you and your superiority is, of course, noted by everyone.
I am Hector Skunk. - "Tisiphone Dira > I feel bullied."
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10702
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Posted - 2015.04.13 15:13:40 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:I'm sorry for touching your nerves. I promise I will not do it again. You are, of course, not only the better player, but also the better person. The 20 minutes you spend on your TV getting off by looking at a character on screen you will never be able to touch or talk to clearly beat how I spend my time.
I'm sorry for even replying to you and your superiority is, of course, noted by everyone.
I accept your surrender (after wiping the large amount of butt hurt off of it) and will contact you to let you know when you can contract all your stuff to me as a form of tribute. Oh and next time, try keeping your own superior attitude in check, and I won't have to do it for you
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
331
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Posted - 2015.04.13 15:14:43 -
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the bleached blonde chick does it for me too just throwin that out there
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Hector Skunk
Highsecberg.
20
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Posted - 2015.04.13 15:25:43 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Hector Skunk wrote:I'm sorry for touching your nerves. I promise I will not do it again. You are, of course, not only the better player, but also the better person. The 20 minutes you spend on your TV getting off by looking at a character on screen you will never be able to touch or talk to clearly beat how I spend my time.
I'm sorry for even replying to you and your superiority is, of course, noted by everyone. I accept your surrender (after wiping the large amount of butt hurt off of it) and will contact you to let you know when you can contract all your stuff to me as a form of tribute. Oh and next time, try keeping your own superior attitude in check, and I won't have to do it for you
Interesting behaviour. Again I apologize for triggering that nerve. In case no one knows which nerve I triggered, it's the "I have to show off how much better I am" nerve, which lies next to the one about "I see butthurt people everywhere". It reminds me a bit of teenagers playing FPS games who do not understand that a game isn't reality and how their superiority is meaningless.
Fascinating and a pointless waste of time. Now please accept my retreat. I will go ask my wife to spend the next 20 minutes massaging me (I have backpain AND a broken leg) and tell her how sad I am about not being able to enjoy the pleasure of watching women on a screen, while being all alone.
Fascinating!
I am Hector Skunk. - "Tisiphone Dira > I feel bullied."
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation
That Escalated Quickly.
331
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Posted - 2015.04.13 15:28:05 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Hector Skunk wrote:I'm sorry for touching your nerves. I promise I will not do it again. You are, of course, not only the better player, but also the better person. The 20 minutes you spend on your TV getting off by looking at a character on screen you will never be able to touch or talk to clearly beat how I spend my time.
I'm sorry for even replying to you and your superiority is, of course, noted by everyone. I accept your surrender (after wiping the large amount of butt hurt off of it) and will contact you to let you know when you can contract all your stuff to me as a form of tribute. Oh and next time, try keeping your own superior attitude in check, and I won't have to do it for you Interesting behaviour. Again I apologize for triggering that nerve. In case no one knows which nerve I triggered, it's the "I have to show off how much better I am" nerve, which lies next to the one about "I see butthurt people everywhere". It reminds me a bit of teenagers playing FPS games who do not understand that a game isn't reality and how their superiority is meaningless. Fascinating and a pointless waste of time. Now please accept my retreat. I will go ask my wife to spend the next 20 minutes massaging me (I have backpain AND a broken leg) and tell her how sad I am about not being able to enjoy the pleasure of watching women on a screen, while being all alone. Fascinating!
do you not have a tv?
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3784
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Posted - 2015.04.13 15:29:42 -
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I make my iskies manufacturing and trading.
Hard to nail an ISK/hour... I make on average 3-4 Bil a month with maybe 4-5 hours a week of actively doing something (updating orders, jumping and hauling stuff, managing manufacturing & invention jobs).
That comes down to 150-200 Mil per hour or so? All-inclusive. Rest of the time I blow up stuff :)
Also consider that I invested quite a lot of time to set up spreadsheets, accounts, trading routes, learn to not lose blockade runners and jump freighters, learn T2 manufacturing, etc. so that figure is the end-result of a substantial time investment up front.
Make space glamorous!
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Tarpedo
Incursionista
1497
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:13:58 -
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Zero. It's very difficult to earn isk on the forum =( |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
15594
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:19:05 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:Calling it "being bad" doesn't make you look "good". I understand that not everyone can afford this, but there is nothing superior in wasting even 20 minutes on something completely unnecessary. That's 20 minutes a day I can use for something better.
Set away a mining barge while you make dinner.
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beakerax
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:31:58 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:In case no one knows which nerve I triggered, it's the "I have to show off how much better I am" nerve
you are clearly intimately familiar with this nerve |
Gary Bell
Herp Inc.dot
Darwinism.
133
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:41:51 -
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HAHAH Baltec telling someone to mine..
Anyways I do about 3ish bil and hour.. But my life also revolves around "right click" "offline" empty cargo.. "online" Type gameplay
PS People with desk jobs who dont play eve at work look into the term "Vpn" It will ruin everything in your life :p
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Nalia White
Tencus
99
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Posted - 2015.04.13 16:58:05 -
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depends how much my targets are carrying and how nice the loot fairy is...  |
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Oriella Trikassi
Trikassi Enterprises
2
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Posted - 2015.04.13 17:10:17 -
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Gully Alex Foyle wrote:I make my iskies manufacturing and trading.
Hard to nail an ISK/hour... I make on average 3-4 Bil a month with maybe 4-5 hours a week of actively doing something (updating orders, jumping and hauling stuff, managing manufacturing & invention jobs).
ISK/hr has a different meaning for miners/mission runners than for manufacturers/traders of course since the latter are making ISK whilst offline, plus all three avatars per account are doing so.
In my case with a small industrial Corp the Spreadsheet says we make around the same ISK/hr as above. PLEX presently eats up around 40% of our profit.
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Oraac Ensor
621
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Posted - 2015.04.13 17:11:47 -
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I have no idea.
Why should I care? This is a video game not a second occupation. |
Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3784
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Posted - 2015.04.13 17:16:55 -
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Oriella Trikassi wrote:the latter are making ISK whilst offline Yes, that's why I love it. The ultimate AFK gameplay!
I'm literally making ISK while I shiptoast on EVE-O! \o/
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10702
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Posted - 2015.04.13 17:27:40 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:I have no idea.
Why should I care? This is a video game not a second occupation.
Relevant Quote
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
3294
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:15:59 -
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I have one character doing a particular activity for about 45 minutes a day, on average. It has been a sustainable source of income for years. It easily produces sufficient ISK to PLEX my three accounts, plus replace whatever ships I lose, around 3 bil a month. So that equates to 133 mil an hour.
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Frozen fanfiction
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders
Spaceship Bebop
3785
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:19:34 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:I have one character doing a particular activity for about 45 minutes a day, on average. It has been a sustainable source of income for years. It easily produces sufficient ISK to PLEX my three accounts, plus replace whatever ships I lose, around 3 bil a month. So that equates to 133 mil an hour. Let me guess: cyber?
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Lupe Meza
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
105
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:21:02 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:Calling it "being bad" doesn't make you look "good". I understand that not everyone can afford this, but there is nothing superior in wasting even 20 minutes on something completely unnecessary. That's 20 minutes a day I can use for something better.
Twenty minutes is a lot of focused guitar technique practice, time for a quick run, or a match or two in some other videogame for me for example.
But anyway, I mainly still have an active subscription to this game because of the setup. My characters progress in the only real meaningful since, with skillpoints, whether or not I'm logged on 40 hours a week killing trolls or crafting 10000 leather jockstraps.
I'm free then as a player to choose from an assortment of PVE or PVP with FW options to generate some isk to fund anything else I may do in the sandbox at my own leisure. If friends are on or a fleet is up I can do that. If there is no one around I want to fly with I can go solo and do my own thing on my own schedule and still have a good time with that 1-3 hours I can find to chill out and play some EVE.
No other MMO is really setup that way because they are all pretty linear while progression in EVE really is subjective and self directed. It is more like a hobby within the hobby of gaming. If you want to go for 80 hours a week you can, but if you don't you won't necessarily have less of a good time if you're using your playtime for things you enjoy, which again isn't necessarily tied to drudgery unless you make it about that.
In my country even a minimum wage job will net you a plex in ~3 hours and with prices like they are it would take you a long time to go through the 800 million in most cases and take less than the ~40 hours it would take you making ~20 mil per hour purely playing to make isk. If you love PVE it's cool, but if you just want the isk to something you actually WANT to do...maybe not. Personally as much as I enjoy aspects of EVE the PVE is bad, dated, uninteresting, and timesink/grind oriented. I don't mission because I enjoy it, but because if I only have an hour to spare I can knock some out, bank some isk, and later use it to do something I do enjoy.
It is literally a virtual job for me, a means to an end. I have nothing against PVE in general and enjoy it in other MMO's, but in this case it is just a bad implementation. Sitting for minutes blowing up waves of stupid NPC's for no other reason than to keep me in the mission pocket , anom, wh site for some amount of time is just not a good time. It is only slightly better than targeting rocks and pressing F1, which is only probably psychological because the mechanics are largely the same.
You really have to seek more to maximize your fun per hour, that is going to be a subjective thing, and if isk = fun for you have at it. If not, it is a little sad to devote more of your hopefully valuable time than is absolutely necessary for you making it.
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Aegon the Dragonbane
Taking it for Granite
4
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Do you mind sending me 50 million isk 
Want to purchase a faction frigate with some faction mods. |
Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1528
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:27:43 -
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One of those new activity summary sites told me that I made 40M ISK/hr during my active year as a WH pilot. Nobody's going to be impressed by that, and I have never made any claims to be anything other than bad, but it kept me in ships and I had a lot of fun.
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Mister Ripley
4
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:36:09 -
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Over 9000! |
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
252
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Posted - 2015.04.13 18:54:18 -
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Enough.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Kaely Tanniss
Black Hydra Consortium
345
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:15:25 -
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2Sonas1Cup wrote:Who got the biggest E-PEEN here??
I do o/. All of you guys got nothing on this.. *swings it around like a lasso*
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction
The Good Christian Society
181
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:22:28 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Kessiaan wrote:About 1.5 billion an hour if I decide to stay late at work. Hey Walter, is quality same high and you cocking the ' blue ' one?
I don't know what you're smoking, but I would like some please.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
15595
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Posted - 2015.04.13 21:22:38 -
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Gary Bell wrote:HAHAH Baltec telling someone to mine..
I take it you have not seen the mineral market of late.
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Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction
The Good Christian Society
181
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:05:07 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Id rather use rl cash on holidays than internet spaceships. You can earn hefty sums of isk afk anyway.
Amen and +1 to that. While I'm glad people decide to use rl money for plex (which feeds the plex market I survive on) it's mystifying to me how incredibly bad one has to be to not be able to accumulate 27 million isk per day (the daily price of a plex) per character.
Hmm, 20 minutes a day of doing some kind of pve in a video game while drinking beer and watching that hot bleached blonde dragon chick with the "suggestive lips" from Game of Thrones on my other monitor, OR getting dressed, driving to work and working overtime while usually not drinking beer?
Hmmm, tough choice there. [/quote]
It's all work in the end, why do anything but what makes the most monies in the least amount of time? Where it comes from is irrelevant.
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Snuggle Society
Snuggle Society.
1628
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Posted - 2015.04.13 22:22:37 -
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Hengle Teron wrote:The going rate is ~800 mil per click now, I believe.
I have been unable to sell a plex with only one click. I try but then this annoying window pops up an asks for another one. Also, don't get me started on the account management site.
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Kaely Tanniss
Black Hydra Consortium
345
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:01:09 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Hengle Teron wrote:The going rate is ~800 mil per click now, I believe. I have been unable to sell a plex with only one click. I try but then this annoying window pops up an asks for another one. Also, don't get me started on the account management site.
^^^ Fact. So I guess that would average 400mil per click...but wait...what if you're selling multiple plex at one time....AHAAAAA! 
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel
EvE-Scout Enclave
1567
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:10:04 -
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Hmmm.....I ran a relic site yesterday. The in-game price thingy said the loot was worth 20 million. So.....lessee here.....I was logged in for about three hours, made 20 mil.....
....so a little less than 7 mil/hour?
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
10704
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Posted - 2015.04.13 23:21:28 -
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Kessiaan wrote:
It's all work in the end, why do anything but what makes the most monies in the least amount of time? Where it comes from is irrelevant.
When I'm at home relaxing running in an incursion fleet and drinking I'm not at work dealing with literally some of the worst human beings on earth. The fact that I can make enough to plex 4 accounts with 2 hours of overtime is meaningless. That's the point, you do what makes sense for you, I'll do what makes sense for me. The "just work and use plex" people never ever understand that (and if everyone did that, plex would be worthless).
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
128
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Posted - 2015.04.14 03:36:18 -
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I've estimated I make between 35 and 55 million ISK per hour running L4 missions solo in null. That's LP + bounty, but not salvage or loot. The price variation comes from how dedicated I am to the task, and what the markets are doing at the time. Interestingly, that's about seventy cents to a buck twenty per hour in RM but somehow it seems worth it. Part of it is because I'm online and on fleet comms, so it's a social activity.
It's not much, really - I don't PLEX my account, and instead sub in three-month increments - but it's enough to keep me stocked in my normal PvP ships which is all I'm interested in.
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
35008
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Posted - 2015.04.14 06:37:36 -
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who cares
pew pew pew!
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Seven Koskanaiken
Positive Failure
Black Legion.
1471
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Posted - 2015.04.14 13:19:32 -
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Hector Skunk wrote:I will go ask my wife to spend the next 20 minutes massaging me (I have backpain AND a broken leg) and tell her how sad I am about not being able to enjoy the pleasure of watching women on a screen, while being all alone.
Ya know, if you worked a few hours overtime you could just pay someone money for that and free up decades of your time. |
Afrigael Hax
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.04.14 23:19:18 -
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realistically I only make about 20-30mill / hr and that's doing wormhole combat sites in my cane
mining about 3 mill/ hr in a venture in high sec (but it is kinda non-playing really) |
Kinete Jenius
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2015.04.15 01:57:51 -
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I once hit 1.46 billion an hour with 12 accounts. I had a magical alignment of the gods for a good couple hours.
I of course am discounting any station trading I've done and similar such things. My figure sticks to active play for one hour a tick. |
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