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Hicksimus
Xion Limited
Resonance.
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:41:07 -
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In other games where items cost this much there isn't a subscription.
Recruitment Officer: What type of a pilot are you?
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Celgar Thurn
Department 10
179
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:43:34 -
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As someone else mentioned it would have been nice to have the SKINs system linked up to the corp standings mechanism. So you would have say 9.00 effective standings with a NPC corporation before you could fly a ship with their SKIN applied.
It would have been better as well if there was an option for people to make ships with a SKIN applied and then be able to sell that ship on to another pilot who did not have the SKIN injected. There would be much more interesting trade options then. Almost like having a manufacturers trade mark/build date applied but not quite.  |
Omnathious Deninard
Novis Initiis
2808
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:36:23 -
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Would it be possible to get SKINs to use on our drones at a future date?
Roleplaying Trinkets for Explorers and Collectors
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Theo Sotken
Mother Knows Best Corporation
38
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:40:39 -
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GankYou wrote:I don't view it through the "1 month of game time" lens. This system will serve as a healthy wealth transfer from the more established players to the new generation. Much like how the PLEX works now. Opportunities abound! 
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
6192
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Posted - 2015.04.24 16:43:16 -
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Sniper Smith wrote:Oraac Ensor wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Magosian wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:Think about how many there are in game currently versus other skins that are NOT site drops. If I do that, the only thing I can conclude is CCP/Aurum moneygrab. I should probably state that I happen to have a few of these, and while it might appear that I'm trying to milk their worth, I'm really not. As you said, there are tons floating around; they're far from rare. It just sticks out like a sore thumb when ONLY these are temporary, and seem to contradict the whole concept of having a skinnable options in the first place. Maybe a better question would be: what is CCP wanting to avoid if these were to become permanent? How can there be a money grab for something that isn't obtainable with money? That's really the fundamental difference there. Please tell us how to acquire Aurum without paying money GÇô I'm sure that I can't be the only one who would dearly like to know. How? Redeem a PLEX for Aurum. Buy legacy Aurum Tokens on the market. (I wish CCP would bring these back..)
And of course, lets not forget that the PLEX that you convert to Aurum can be purchased for ISK. You need never spend a nickle to purchase items from the NES store unless you wish to.
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
360
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Posted - 2015.04.24 16:46:00 -
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Hicksimus wrote:In other games where items cost this much there isn't a subscription.
In other games where items cost this much, the items have a Tangible BENEFIT to your character making it better in game than those that just play freely.
These are, after all, JUST Vanity items. They don't make you better at the game in any way.
The price, left alone, I'm not a fan of.. hence why I've suggested a few times in this topic that the skins should be able to be got through IN GAME Mechanics also.. LP Stores, Drops, based on gaining a Standing with a Corp/Faction, Mission Rewards.. Hell I don't care if the LP Costs are out of this world, it would still be a nice way..
One idea I had, LP wise, would be the option for the LP Store to give you a Skin based on a hull you give it.. So, for example, I run say, SOE Missions. I chose the Skin Option ( probably different prices based on hull size), and give them a ship.. like, a Hyperion. I get back a SOE Hyperion Perma skin. Thus letting up paint our ships almost anyway we want, without being so tied to racial lines :/
The biggest thing I don't like is how the temp skins work. I don't like a timelimit. I think it should last till distruction. I mean if you, say, run Proph fleets every day then ya, maybe the skin makes sense, but as a more casual player, I might only fly my Bloodraider Proph once a month, or two, seems unfair for the only way for me to enjoy that skin is basically buy it every time for that day :( Maybe even make it a hybrid, good for minimum of 30 days, remains applied after till you CHOSE to reskin, or next time you go boom. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
6192
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Posted - 2015.04.24 16:59:42 -
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DaReaper wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:The entire SKIN thing came about from player requests for the ability to customize their ships. CCP, you may think you have provided that capability. But you have not. I cannot customize my ship. All I can do is allow you to customize my ship. I cannot select the specific colors I want, or the patterns I want, or the features I want. All I can do is choose to let you give me the colors, patterns, and features you want.
Sure, this is a quite good step in the right direction, but I still want to customize my ship. you do realize this is the first step right? they have already said that customization is coming.
It's highly unlikely he will ever get what he wants, that being the ability to completely customize his ship as he wishes.
There will be, by necessity, an element of CCP control in any ship skinning mechanism they create. Now the options and variations possible may go up significantly, with different patterns and color schemes available... the ability to take those patterns and make them larger or smaller and apply them to various parts of your ships... etc.... but the base patterns and colors available will always be strictly controlled.
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
146
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Posted - 2015.04.24 17:01:41 -
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The patterns offered by the major instrumental Corporations and Houses in Eve is a very solid foundation to build this system on. 
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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Wylde Kardde
Wrekker Mix
9
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Posted - 2015.04.24 17:28:09 -
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They really shafted Minmatar on this "first run" of skins, for the most part Amarr got a boatload of R&D T2 colors (Khanid,Carthum,Viziam) and scrolling through the list & crossing my fingers for a Brutor Typhoon - or anything Brutor or Thukker tribe for that matter left me with a kick btwn the legs seeing the Seibestor Hel, isn't this one of the rarest ships used in eve even among 0.0 cap fleets? everything is Krusual tribe (Amarr Sarum's 3rd world wannabe's) I thaught Minmatar hates Amarr anyway now oddly they're flying their colors. I understand Nefantar are Ammatar I was just wondering if there are plans for Minnie's popular Brutor camo and now black Seibestor in the works. I read somewhere that a majority of minmatar ship models are being redone and this may explain the awkward silence among available skins. Some info regarding would be helpful as I am a fan of their race's hidden capabilities & junker appearances. I would save all my aurum on this release in wait for Minnie R&D color skins - then I'd empty my wallet ;)
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Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
361
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Posted - 2015.04.24 18:27:08 -
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Wylde Kardde wrote:They really shafted Minmatar on this "first run" of skins, for the most part Amarr got a boatload of R&D T2 colors (Khanid,Carthum,Viziam) and scrolling through the list & crossing my fingers for a Brutor Typhoon - or anything Brutor or Thukker tribe for that matter left me with a kick btwn the legs seeing the Seibestor Hel, isn't this one of the rarest ships used in eve even among 0.0 cap fleets? everything is Krusual tribe (Amarr Sarum's 3rd world wannabe's) I thaught Minmatar hates Amarr anyway now oddly they're flying their colors. I understand Nefantar are Ammatar I was just wondering if there are plans for Minnie's popular Brutor camo and now black Seibestor in the works. I read somewhere that a majority of minmatar ship models are being redone and this may explain the awkward silence among available skins. Some info regarding would be helpful as I am a fan of their race's hidden capabilities & junker appearances. I would save all my aurum on this release in wait for Minnie R&D color skins - then I'd empty my wallet ;)
They said eariler in the dev blog that they were aware how few Minm and Caldari skins there are, vs Gal and Amar, and they will work to fix that. They went with these because, well, they are ready to go. I think it's safe to assume, long term, that all corp skins ingame will make their way to the SKINS system for us at some point. |
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
164
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Posted - 2015.04.24 18:28:27 -
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Yes, please.
Krusual & Nefantar Rifters aren't getting any love atm. 
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
1675
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Posted - 2015.04.24 19:58:36 -
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There is no mention of SKINs in the Mosaic patch notes. Are SKINs coming with Mosaic or do you guys have to punt?
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
164
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Posted - 2015.04.24 21:30:32 -
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Regarding ze Minmatars: https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Ammatar
Quote:The Ammatar were originally known as the Nefantar Tribe, one of the seven tribes of the Minmatar. During the Amarr occupation - when the Empire invaded the Minmatar homeworlds - the Nefantar collaborated extensively with Imperial agents.
The Golden Rifter - Ooh, you touch my tralalah.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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CCP Terminus
C C P
C C P Alliance
241
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Posted - 2015.04.24 21:36:10 -
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Celgar Thurn wrote:I presume by the use of the word 'accurately' that you do not mean the current excellent designs for the Quafe skins will be kept and the pale blue whole hull wash designs from the dev blog will be introduced 
Sounds like you may be running a browser that isn't rendering the ships properly.
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Natya Mebelle
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2015.04.24 23:09:22 -
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Celgar Thurn wrote:Therefore my observations still stand. It is worrying that I appear to be the only person that has noticed this. How about you posting a screenshot of your browser showcasing those horrible ships for us to see what you see too? c: Because I do NOT think it is your eyes deceiving you, but your browser messing with you! I do wonder why you don't get the least bit suspicious that you seem to be the only one with that problem? But still you say everybody is wrong? How curious c:
Ranger 1 wrote:And of course, lets not forget that the PLEX that you convert to Aurum can be purchased for ISK. You need never spend a nickle to purchase items from the NES store unless you wish to. You apparently forget that SOMEONE had to pay for it to be sold for ISK in the game c: Every Plex you purchased with ISK is you giving ISK to someone who wants to exchange their real money for ISK and buys plex.
So it does not matter if YOU never spent a single dime, because SOMEBODY exchange real life money from their wallet with the ISK you made in game. There is still real money involved. No Arkonor Trees c: |
GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
164
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Posted - 2015.04.24 23:12:53 -
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His point is that the option exists. That's all.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1404
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Posted - 2015.04.24 23:13:27 -
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Some time back I remember there being some buzz around marauder skins on sisi. Any idea when/if those could hit TQ? Or did they do so already and I missed them completely? |
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
363
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Posted - 2015.04.24 23:24:11 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Some time back I remember there being some buzz around marauder skins on sisi. Any idea when/if those could hit TQ? Or did they do so already and I missed them completely?
They exist on TQ but have not been seeded, and every time I've asked about them there's been no response from any Dev's.
I want my Quafe Kronos Dammit! |
Hra Neuvosto
Fistful of Finns
Triumvirate.
352
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Posted - 2015.04.25 15:23:04 -
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These look pretty sweet, Black Ops skins can't come soon enough (also unique models for black ops). |
Coelomate Tian
The Suicide Kings
Black Legion.
1
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Posted - 2015.04.25 16:26:07 -
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Querns wrote:There is no mention of SKINs in the Mosaic patch notes. Are SKINs coming with Mosaic or do you guys have to punt?
They're still coming in Mosaic on Tuesday - a dev confirmed yesterday in a comment on a reddit post, but I can't dig it up right now. |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
6193
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Posted - 2015.04.25 18:26:04 -
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Natya Mebelle wrote:Celgar Thurn wrote:Therefore my observations still stand. It is worrying that I appear to be the only person that has noticed this. How about you posting a screenshot of your browser showcasing those horrible ships for us to see what you see too? c: Because I do NOT think it is your eyes deceiving you, but your browser messing with you! I do wonder why you don't get the least bit suspicious that you seem to be the only one with that problem? But still you say everybody is wrong? How curious c: Ranger 1 wrote:And of course, lets not forget that the PLEX that you convert to Aurum can be purchased for ISK. You need never spend a nickel to purchase items from the NES store unless you wish to. You apparently forget that SOMEONE had to pay for it to be sold for ISK in the game c: Every Plex you purchased with ISK is you giving ISK to someone who wants to exchange their real money for ISK and buys plex. So it does not matter if YOU never spent a single dime, because SOMEBODY exchange real life money from their wallet with the ISK you made in game. There is still real money involved. No Arkonor Trees c:
Heh, no, I'm very much aware of that. You're missing the point.
That person that purchased the PLEX got what they wanted, namely your ISK when you purchased it from the market. That part of the equation is done.
We are discussing the cost of these SKIN licenses to the people that want to purchase them, and the fact remains that you need not spend a nickel to purchase them from either the player market or (more importantly) directly from the NES store.
The fact that someone else spent real money in a separate transaction has no bearing on this particular discussion. That transaction is done, and both parties involved got exactly what they wanted from it. YOUR transaction to purchase the SKIN need not involve any of YOUR cash what-so-ever... not when YOU buy the PLEX and not when you buy the license.
I don't care if someone else spent money on the PLEX originally, that's their business and has no effect on my personal cash. It was a valid (and completely separate) transaction. In fact I'm pleased that my purely ISK transaction is indirectly benefiting the cash flow for CCP without costing me a thing in real money, as well as benefiting the player that was desperate enough for ISK that he spent his own cash on it.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
6193
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Posted - 2015.04.25 18:34:38 -
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Coelomate Tian wrote:Querns wrote:There is no mention of SKINs in the Mosaic patch notes. Are SKINs coming with Mosaic or do you guys have to punt? They're still coming in Mosaic on Tuesday - a dev confirmed yesterday in a comment on a reddit post, but I can't dig it up right now.
Sounds like I need to finish my last showcase video (Gallente) this weekend.
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Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1565
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Posted - 2015.04.25 19:06:51 -
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CCP Terminus wrote:Celgar Thurn wrote:I presume by the use of the word 'accurately' that you do not mean the current excellent designs for the Quafe skins will be kept and the pale blue whole hull wash designs from the dev blog will be introduced Sounds like you may be running a browser that isn't rendering the ships properly.
At least he's seeing something. Safari on Mac OS X 10.10.3 gives me a blank white screen, and the console shows a bunch of permission issues and 404s.
At least one of the issues is that for security reasons Safari doesn't allow an AJAX call to a server other than the one that hosted the original (calling) page. More detail and a solution are available here.
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
I voted in CSM X!
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Leto Atal
LoneStar Industries
Comatose Alliance
20
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Posted - 2015.04.26 01:32:03 -
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Quote:How many of you DIDN'T try to ship spin that amazing image? If you didn't then I suggest leveling up your ship spinning skill and trying again.
I didn't because your page is bugged in Safari. Previous web 3D models have worked like in the ship viewer (tested it again it still works). But this one doesn't. Can you fix it or post static image place holders please? |
Arthur Aihaken
Jormungand Corporation
4367
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Posted - 2015.04.26 03:14:27 -
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Still waiting for my NOH Golem skin... 
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Oraac Ensor
623
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Posted - 2015.04.26 05:54:25 -
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Natya Mebelle wrote:Celgar Thurn wrote:Therefore my observations still stand. It is worrying that I appear to be the only person that has noticed this. How about you posting a screenshot of your browser showcasing those horrible ships for us to see what you see too? c: Because I do NOT think it is your eyes deceiving you, but your browser messing with you! I do wonder why you don't get the least bit suspicious that you seem to be the only one with that problem? But still you say everybody is wrong? How curious c:
No, he isn't the only one: Oraac Ensor wrote:What exactly am I supposed to see in those Blog 'previews' - including the spinnable one?
All I see are ships rendered overall in either a horrible muddy charcoal grey or equally horrible dull bluish grey.
CCP Terminus wrote:Celgar Thurn wrote:I presume by the use of the word 'accurately' that you do not mean the current excellent designs for the Quafe skins will be kept and the pale blue whole hull wash designs from the dev blog will be introduced Sounds like you may be running a browser that isn't rendering the ships properly.
If you're posting stuff that doesn't display properly in Internet Explorer - possibly the most widely used browser on the planet - you should be ashamed. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
6195
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Posted - 2015.04.26 06:50:45 -
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Quote:If you're posting stuff that doesn't display properly in Internet Explorer - possibly the most widely used browser on the planet - you should be ashamed.
I'm mildly surprised there are still a few people brave enough to use Internet Explorer, even Microsoft doesn't recommend it anymore. 
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Kanine
The Scope
Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.04.26 06:52:43 -
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You need to make the Police skin a basic skin for everything Gallente.. do eeeet nao!
And charge whatever you want, I'm okay with living in poverty as long as I get dem skins! |
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
5199
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Posted - 2015.04.26 07:25:43 -
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Oraac Ensor wrote:
If you're posting stuff that doesn't display properly in Internet Explorer - possibly the most widely used browser on the planet - you should be ashamed.
http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-201403-201504-bar
You sure you don't want to revise your statement? (Oh, and don't be bringing China into this. For the purposes of this discussion, China is irrelevant. Being that they have their own Eve server, and updates)
Aside from that: Whose fault is it that it doesn't work? CCPs, when they're following industry Standards, or Microsoft, when they don't? (Oh god, the times I've wanted to take IE out back and shoot it, because they do things their own way. Or I've been stuck supporting bloody IE6 because people had sites developed with activex)
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Fuzzwork Enterprises
Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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Zappity
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
2002
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Posted - 2015.04.26 07:47:24 -
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Burn.
Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec.
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