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Acron Ishtal Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:01:00 - [1] Edited by: Acron Ishtal on 01/11/2006 23:38:23 AN AUTHORIZED TRANSMISSION OF CVA HIGH COMMAND: Recently the CVA has seen an increase in activity of macro users in our space. While normally we try to keep our space open to all neutrals, macro users are violators of the EULA and are disrupting the game for legitimate players. As of this posting, any macro users caught in CVA space will be declared KOS and killed without mercy. Unfortunately a number of corporations have taken to recruiting these players, despite obvious breaches of the EULA and strong indicators of macro behavior. Corporations found to be harboring macro users that operate in our space will be notified of the offending macro user. This will NOT stop us from executing our KOS policy against these players. This issue is not one we take lightly. Our good will has been abused by flagrant cheaters, and we strongly encourage everyone to take similar stances on this issue. We will continue to report these players and hopefully CCP will see fit to address this issue, but until then this remains our sole course of action. Thank you. Editted to reduce confusion. An authorized transmission of the honorable Deacon Acron Ishtal
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:03:00 - [2] No offence but do you really think actual proper macro miners/isk farmers read the forums? Also 95% of the time they tend to warp to safe and cloak the second someone enters local.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:04:00 - [3] Dont bother killing those cheating scum , just report them to CCP and they will enjoy a permanet BAN , CCP doenst take macro users lightly at all. "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:06:00 - [4] Edited by: Hardin on 01/11/2006 23:08:28 Just to be clear this warning is not so much a warning to macroers themselves but to the corporations & alliances that operate in our space and who have been recruiting these people (inadvertently or not). We will not tolerate excuses on this anymore! ------------------------------ Blog's back - for now
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:07:00 - [5] Originally by: Traxio Nacho No offence but do you really think actual proper macro miners/isk farmers read the forums? Also 95% of the time they tend to warp to safe and cloak the second someone enters local. He's talking more to the corporations that harbor them, I assume. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Reash Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:08:00 - [6] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Dont bother killing those cheating scum , just report them to CCP and they will enjoy a permanet BAN , CCP doenst take macro users lightly at all. "We will continue to report these players" They have been reported as mentioned in the original post, but we will do our part when we can. Auctoritan Syndicate Director Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:10:00 - [7] Originally by: Reash Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Dont bother killing those cheating scum , just report them to CCP and they will enjoy a permanet BAN , CCP doenst take macro users lightly at all. "We will continue to report these players" They have been reported as mentioned in the original post, but we will do our part when we can. Respect and GL ridding this game of filthy exploiters . "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:12:00 - [8] Glad to see more people doing something to rid the game of this menace.
Nukeitall Nukeitall Coterie	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:14:00 - [9] I'm confused by the statement - clarification: A.It's been established that you will destroy those who harbor macro-using players. That's clear. B. However in the initial post it was said "macrohunters are violators of the EULA and are disrupting the game for legitimate players" - indicating that any vigilantes that do the job for you are also subject to summary judgement and execution. Care to elaborate?
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:18:00 - [10] The CVA is the sole dispenser of justice in CVA space Corps who harbour macroers are not being attacked however they are being notified of macroers in their ranks and informed that the CVA will shoot said macroers. ------------------------------ Blog's back - for now
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:19:00 - [11] Edited by: Nez Perces on 01/11/2006 23:20:13 First of all .. Gl with getting those Macrominers banned and GL rooting out the corporations that harbour them. ... however, I can't help feeling that your open space policies are encouraging and assisting macro-miners to setup shop in 0.0. I have lived in free space before, under CFS rule and I am well aware of the impossiblity to really control who enters and who does not enter free space. To enable free space you have to assume that neutral corps or pilots are genuine players not there to cause trouble... only when you find out they are troublemakers or macroers in this case can you set them to -ve standings. It is quite possible that a neutral corp could be macroing for a substantial time period within your space.. i.e under the radar, before you noticed. How do you respond to this concern? Furthermore if this problem continues for you or even increases in scale... will you consider dropping free space in order to make sure macro miners are kept out of 0.0?
Nukeitall Nukeitall Coterie	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:20:00 - [12] Originally by: Hardin The CVA is the sole dispenser of justice in CVA space Corps who harbour macroers are not being attacked however they are being notified of macroers in their ranks and informed that the CVA will shoot said macroers. Fair enough. --------- >>Disclaimer: Anything Nukeitall says is not to be taken seriously. Mostly.
Acron Ishtal Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:25:00 - [13] Originally by: Nez Perces It is quite possible that a neutral corp could be macroing for a substantial time period within your space.. i.e under the radar, before you noticed. How do you respond to this concern? Furthermore if this problem continues for you or even increases in scale... will you consider dropping free space in order to make sure macro miners are kept out of 0.0? The answers are simple: When found, they will leave or they will die. The CVA will not turn back from open space policies. Our mission statement is clear and concise on this matter. An authorized transmission of the honorable Deacon Acron Ishtal
Ramruqai Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:28:00 - [14] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 01/11/2006 23:20:13 Furthermore if this problem continues for you or even increases in scale... will you consider dropping free space in order to make sure macro miners are kept out of 0.0? No. Making it possible for neutrals to enjoy the fruits of our region is more important than stopping macroers CCP should be? are? working very hard on to stop. P.S. The extra Raven killmail now and then for little effort (catch in travel mode) is nice as well. :P It's the pilot that makes the ship, Not the ship that makes the pilot.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:31:00 - [15] Originally by: Acron Ishtal When found, they will leave or they will die. The CVA will not turn back from open space policies. Our mission statement is clear and concise on this matter. Indeed that is clear enough.... How severe is the current problem?.... I am assuming quite as CVA thought it worthy of an EVE-Online post. Also I am quite curious as to how exactly do you go about finding these macro miners.. are they easily distinguishable in any shape or form, when browsing through local? (e.g do they wear funny hats....?) Thankyou for your responses so far.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:34:00 - [16] We posted this to ensure that there could be no confusion for corporations/alliances (operating in our space) on this issue - particularly as the frequency of 'macroers' seemed to be increasing - which is why we have taken this action. In terms of the the distinguishing characteristics there are plenty but not going into detail on that here - but the details have been reported to CCP... ------------------------------ Blog's back - for now
Hellspawn01 Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:34:00 - [17] Originally by: Acron Ishtal macrohunters are violators of the EULA and are disrupting the game for legitimate players. I think you mixed something up with that part. Macrohunters are ppl that hunt macro miners. Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Traxio Nacho No offence but do you really think actual proper macro miners/isk farmers read the forums? Also 95% of the time they tend to warp to safe and cloak the second someone enters local. He's talking more to the corporations that harbor them, I assume. Some of those corps have wars on them just for that purpose. I know a ceo that allows you to war dec his corp to kill the macrominers while his ppl mine somewhere else. Ship lovers click here
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:37:00 - [18] Originally by: Hellspawn01 Originally by: Acron Ishtal macrohunters are violators of the EULA and are disrupting the game for legitimate players. I think you mixed something up with that part. Macrohunters are ppl that hunt macro miners. This term confused me the first time I heard it too To clarify macrohunters are actually 'macro-NPCers' who are spending 23hrs a day in belts 'hunting'. ------------------------------ Blog's back - for now
Acron Ishtal Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Hellspawn01 Originally by: Acron Ishtal macrohunters are violators of the EULA and are disrupting the game for legitimate players. I think you mixed something up with that part. Macrohunters are ppl that hunt macro miners. Not all macro users mine asteroids. An authorized transmission of the honorable Deacon Acron Ishtal
Acron Ishtal Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:39:00 - [20] Editted OP to correctly say "macro user" in place of that more confusing term. An authorized transmission of the honorable Deacon Acron Ishtal
Pestillence Chav-Scum	Posted - 2006.11.01 23:41:00 - [21] This made me think of you
Hellspawn01 Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.02 00:05:00 - [22] Originally by: Hardin Originally by: Hellspawn01 Originally by: Acron Ishtal macrohunters are violators of the EULA and are disrupting the game for legitimate players. I think you mixed something up with that part. Macrohunters are ppl that hunt macro miners. This term confused me the first time I heard it too To clarify macrohunters are actually 'macro-NPCers' who are spending 23hrs a day in belts 'hunting'. That doesnt make sense. NPCing isnt against the EULA afaik. Ship lovers click here
zeKzn Empire of Destiny	Posted - 2006.11.02 04:57:00 - [23] Originally by: Hellspawn01 That doesnt make sense. NPCing isnt against the EULA afaik. neither is mining. the use of macros is. my thoughts are my own and do not represent the thoughts of my corp
INZi coracao ardente	Posted - 2006.11.02 06:12:00 - [24] lol. could they be raven pilots? perhaps with stabs? and perhaps wit cloaks fitted? well good luck on KOSing em. and catching em. and killing. check out my latest vid. u'll see me engage three off em. couldn't scout em. just could bookmark their can spot and loginski them. well good luck cva. you will need it
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.02 06:25:00 - [25] Originally by: Hardin The CVA is the sole dispenser of justice in CVA space So says Hardin the Mercenary before going off again to fill his pockets with ISK from registering another alliance with CONCORD. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.02 06:56:00 - [26] You're just upset that you haven't been asked Seleene ------------------------------ Blog's back - for now
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.02 07:20:00 - [27] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Also 95% of the time they tend to warp to safe and cloak the second someone enters local. Jeebz, macros have become advanced nowadays.
Aaron Static Deep Space Consortium Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.02 07:22:00 - [28] CVA has my total support on this matter.. I will be sure to report any macroers I see in providence to both CCP and the CVA. respect!
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.11.02 07:30:00 - [29] Edited by: Verite Rendition on 02/11/2006 07:30:31 Originally by: INZi lol. could they be raven pilots? perhaps with stabs? and perhaps wit cloaks fitted? well good luck on KOSing em. and catching em. and killing. check out my latest vid. u'll see me engage three off em. couldn't scout em. just could bookmark their can spot and loginski them. well good luck cva. you will need it It really is terrible. I have been chasing macroNPCers heading to Venal for over 2 weeks now, I can catch a Badger now and then and that's it. They're using every trick in the book to avoid capture(logoffski, double-logging, etc), and there's not a **** thing I can do about it other than set up 23/7 gatecamps. Noobs need to be more vulnerable in 0.0. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.02 07:41:00 - [30] Originally by: Hardin You're just upset that you haven't been asked Seleene You are a bad, evil man. That tie doesn't fool anyone. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?

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