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Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.03 14:20:00 - [61] Originally by: Luke Pubcrawler EvE needs more open 0.0 not less, more areas where newer/casual players can hope to exist without trigger-happy alliance paranoia. Thats absolute rubbish.. but this is not the thread to discuss it.. over the weekend I shall start a thread exposing free space for what it is... a morally bankrupt concept. Also activate your corp tag or alliance tag on the forums or your post will get deleted.
Pezzle Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.03 16:20:00 - [62] CVA Operations in and around Providence are not about this 'free space' concept of yours. Our message is clear and directly to the point, it is about the Macro and how they must be purged.
Angry Dan Caldari Widowmakers	Posted - 2006.11.03 16:30:00 - [63] Originally by: Hans Roaming Really, you sure this isn't just farmers? Nope, I've seen the video of Sajukk Praetor murderizing them about 3 jumps from 9-UYH4. It was funny :) ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.11.03 19:25:00 - [64] Originally by: Angry Dan Originally by: Hans Roaming Really, you sure this isn't just farmers? Nope, I've seen the video of Sajukk Praetor murderizing them about 3 jumps from 9-UYH4. It was funny :) link pls.
WETRAIN Minmatar Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.11.03 22:29:00 - [65] This just in from the Venal area , The Guristas have the fight of theyr lives in the belts nowadays, as the chinese farmers make 1 month old alts sometimes from 3 to 8 of them and train them for a raven and macro npc. As they adressed them with the simple words of "F*ing CHINESE FARMERS" local , from the Guristas they answered with their beat up english "In order To Live ..." as they where feeding theyr children by macro`ing.... My opinion? ***** KILL EM ALL EVERYWHERE EVERYWHERE KILL THE CHINESE NODES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------- When People are Ready the Master will come. - Original by Anihilus - -----------------------------------------
Angry Dan Caldari Widowmakers	Posted - 2006.11.03 22:32:00 - [66] Originally by: Mangold Originally by: Angry Dan Originally by: Hans Roaming Really, you sure this isn't just farmers? Nope, I've seen the video of Sajukk Praetor murderizing them about 3 jumps from 9-UYH4. It was funny :) link pls. As far as I know, it's not hosted on the web. He frapsed it, and sharing a house with him means I get to see it :). The kills were on the NOS killboard, same day your blob murderized my shiny raptor (and my pod) lag slideshows suck.. I'll see if I can get a copy hosted for ya. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.11.03 23:07:00 - [67] Originally by: Angry Dan As far as I know, it's not hosted on the web. He frapsed it, and sharing a house with him means I get to see it :). The kills were on the NOS killboard, same day your blob murderized my shiny raptor (and my pod) lag slideshows suck.. I'll see if I can get a copy hosted for ya. That would be awesome. Could you send me an eve-mail with the address please? Btw Ushra'khan has killed 3 farmer ravens and 2 pods today.
Kadriel The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.04 22:43:00 - [68] Originally by: Luke Pubcrawler As for a couple of posters who seem to believe that the whole of 0.0 should be under NBSI rules I can only assume that they don't care for the long term health of the game. EvE needs more open 0.0 not less, more areas where newer/casual players can hope to exist without trigger-happy alliance paranoia. In case ^^^ forgot to take his meds, and forgot what was goin on. 0.0 = lawless(aka not nub friendly). cva wouldnt have this problem right now if they had the NBSI policy. NBSI doesnt do anything for or against the "health" of the game. if anything, it makes the peep try harder and use better tactics, instead of being an artarded carebear w/o a clue.
Gaius Kador PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.05 02:12:00 - [69] Originally by: Mynas Atoch I say I don't use macros. Am I telling you the truth? Can you prove it one way or another? Now if you want to just announce you are going nbsi on npc'rs in your space, hoping to kill them to loot their ratting mods, why not just say it. Or can we get an assurance that you will pop any cans to prevent you profitting from macro ratters? Myn You, a subhuman peon profiteer, are asking assurances from the CVA regarding their divine celestial rights to police this extention of the Amarr Empire, and subsequently their execution of said rights? Tell you what. Mail Lord Sidyous and ask him this, send him my regards. ----------------------------------------------
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.05 02:22:00 - [70] Edited by: Nez Perces on 05/11/2006 02:23:49 Originally by: Gaius Kador You, a subhuman peon profiteer, are asking assurances from the CVA regarding their divine celestial rights to police this extention of the Amarr Empire, and subsequently their execution of said rights? Tell you what. Mail Lord Sidyous and ask him this, send him my regards. I really really love the self-righteous RP CVA come up with .. as an Amarrian myself.. I do believe we are the master race !! ... its just such a real shame that CVA then go and flush the whole Amarrian Superiority RP down the toilet with the cuddly 'free space' rubbish
Solusar Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.05 02:25:00 - [71] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 05/11/2006 02:23:49 Originally by: Gaius Kador You, a subhuman peon profiteer, are asking assurances from the CVA regarding their divine celestial rights to police this extention of the Amarr Empire, and subsequently their execution of said rights? Tell you what. Mail Lord Sidyous and ask him this, send him my regards. I really really love the self-righteous RP CVA come up with .. as an Amarrian myself.. I do believe we are the master race !! ... its just such a real shame that CVA then go and flush the whole Amarrian Superiority RP down the toilet with the cuddly 'free space' rubbish You clearly have no concept whatsoever of what CVA are doing in Providence and just wish to start flame wars. How about actually getting off your high horse and taking alook before you make 101 presumptions and accusations.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.05 02:29:00 - [72] Originally by: Gaius Kador You clearly have no concept whatsoever of what CVA are doing in Providence and just wish to start flame wars. How about actually getting off your high horse and taking alook before you make 101 presumptions and accusations. .. alright, throw me a link so I can 'educate' myself.... you know like the CVA charter or something like that.. if its public that is.
Redwolf Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.05 02:35:00 - [73] Were it any business of yours, I'm sure we'd have let you know already. Originally by: HippoKing Who cares if the game is coming up. Forums are back \o/

Saucerhead Forum Moderator	Posted - 2006.11.05 09:18:00 - [74] Guys, remain civil, pretty please. -- Read the Rules!

Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.05 11:47:00 - [75] Edited by: Hardin on 05/11/2006 11:52:45 Nez, What exactly is your problem with CVA? Because it seems to me that you are obsessed with us. Over the past month I have seen you flame us in numerous different threads on numerous different occasions - for no apparent reason other than some kind of personal vendetta. What exactly is that we have done to **** you off? Is it that for two years now we have been a living breathing example of a working 'freespace' area that you seemingly despise? As you are not a resident of our region then please explain why our policy is of such interest to you that you feel the need to continually flame us and what we are about? Seriously, if you have that much of a grudge then please 'bring it' in space. I am sure we would be happy to enlighten you - as we have enlightened many who have challenged our way of doing things over the past two years. The CVA exists for two primary purposes: Firstly, we combat Minmatar terrorists particularly the Ushra'Khan alliance, Stormriders and those who ally with them against us. If you doubt our work in this field then please visit - Holy Amarrian Justice - and check it out for yourself. Secondly, we seek to extend the Amarrian Empire into 0.0 in Providence. This project entitled 'Deliverance' was started two years ago and is not 'warm and cuddly' as you described it. Yes, we allow neutrals into our space because neutrals are allowed into Amarrian space under the protection of Concord. Just imagine us as a more pro-active Concord for Providence. We operate very strict KOS lists and once you are on them it's very hard to come off Why do we do this - because we believe that the Amarr Empire offers the one true example of civilisation in this lawless galaxy and we seek to protect and extend that civilisation into 0.0. Those pilots who operate peacefully within our region are protected by the CVA regardless of their race with the proviso that they respect the Empire and our no-piracy rules. If you wish to learn more about the CVA and 'Operation Deliverance' then I would like to point you in the direction of previous CVA declarations because it seems you are woefully lacking in knowledge (I cannot find the link to the original 'Deliverance' foundation thread atm so some more recent announcements will have to do): CVA History Building an Amarrian Paradise in 0.0 Operation Deliverance - Back on track Now, Nez, I don't understand where you dislike of the CVA comes from but I suggest that you stop the GalNet smear campaign and put your money where your mouth is. Come down (or up) and show us exactly how crap we are. I can assure you you will be provided with a warm Amarrian welcome ------------------------------ Blog's back - for now
Royaldo KVA Noble Inc. THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.11.05 12:05:00 - [76] hardin, i think it roots back to when imperial dreams was in cfs really.
Parallax Error Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.05 12:12:00 - [77] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 05/11/2006 02:23:49 Originally by: Gaius Kador You, a subhuman peon profiteer, are asking assurances from the CVA regarding their divine celestial rights to police this extention of the Amarr Empire, and subsequently their execution of said rights? Tell you what. Mail Lord Sidyous and ask him this, send him my regards. I really really love the self-righteous RP CVA come up with .. as an Amarrian myself.. I do believe we are the master race !! ... its just such a real shame that CVA then go and flush the whole Amarrian Superiority RP down the toilet with the cuddly 'free space' rubbish Were Gaius a member of the CVA, you might have a point quoting him in this context.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.05 12:23:00 - [78] Edited by: Nez Perces on 05/11/2006 12:24:30 Originally by: Hardin Nez, What exactly is your problem with CVA? Because it seems to me that you are obsessed with us. Over the past month I have seen you flame us in numerous different threads on numerous different occasions - for no apparent reason other than some kind of personal vendetta. I don't have a problem with CVA. I do believe you are seeing vendettas where there are none and getting far too hung up on my posts. What I do believe though is that personalities and entities that thrust themselves into the public spotlight of the EVE-O forums should be prepared for a high level of scrutiny... that includes myself. Everything and anything posted on this section of the boards, can and should be challenged for consistency, relevance and/or truthfulness. Now if you will excuse me, I have a fair bit of reading to do.. tyvm for the links.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.05 13:37:00 - [79] Edited by: Nez Perces on 05/11/2006 13:41:54 Originally by: Eve Wikipeadia In the early years PIE Inc provided the bulk of combat pilots and was considered the PvP arm of the CVA - while Imperial Dreams focused more on industry. PIE Inc was heavily involved in official wars vs terrorist organisations however it was Imperial Dreams that took the first step to finding a space in 0.0 for the CVA when it entered the ill-fated CFS (Confederation of Free Stars) alliance (whilst maintaining its place within the CVA). Originally by: Eve Wikipeadia Under the auspices of 'Operation Deliverance' the CVA and its allies stepped up anti-pirate activities in the Southern regions of the Amarr Empire bordering the Providence region and also the neighbouring 0.0 systems. Originally by: Eve Wikipeadia The roleplay justification for 'Operation Deliverance' as outlined by Hardin - PIE's CEO at the time - was to reassert Amarrian law, to bring an end to the piracy that had plagued these areas, bringing new economic development and prosperity - to the benefit of the Amarrian exchequer. The CVA also stated that it ultimately wanted the Amarrian Empire to 'reclaim' the 0.0 Providence systems under its protection - thereby expanding the Empire. I have quoted some passages from the EVE Wikipeadia site linked in an earlier postàperhaps CVA would care to answer some questions concerning the RP justification for æfree spaceÆ and æOperation DeliveranceÆ itself? As I understand it, the purpose of æOperation DeliveranceÆ in providence and therefore the enabling of æfree spaceÆ is driven by the RP justification, which appears to be the extension of the Amarr Empire into the Providence region. And by an extension of the Amarr Empire, you mean a replica of the conditions found in Empire. I.E a heavily policed region abiding by Amarr law and revenue collected to the benefit of the Amarrian Exchequer. The first question is banal but I find it interestingà how do you RP directing revenue into the Amarrian Exchequer? Do you pay into an alt account and just leave it there? Or do you just use the revenue generated to further fund Operation Deliverance and assume that this would be the will of the Emperor anyhow.? Going back in history slightly.. what was the RP justification for Imperial Dreams joining the CFS? If your ultimate goal is to æreclaimÆ the 0.0 providence systems for the Amarrian Empire does that mean you ultimately expect CCP to incorporate Providence into Empire space? Now here is the important question.. or at least I think so... if your goal is to simply extend Amarrian Rule into Providence as a reflection of the conditions found in Empire Spaceà do you believe that when the æfree spaceÆ term is used in reference to CVAÆs work in Providence it is infact a gross inaccuracy? Or do you believe that Concord controlled Empire Space also falls under the definition of æfree spaceÆ? Remember there is no vendetta hereà only some questions, which may or may not chose to answer.
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.05 18:02:00 - [80] Edited by: Hardin on 05/11/2006 18:08:23 Originally by: Nez Perces How do you RP directing revenue into the Amarrian Exchequer? Do you pay into an alt account and just leave it there? Or do you just use the revenue generated to further fund Operation Deliverance and assume that this would be the will of the Emperor anyhow.? The 'Deliverance' area is not just Providence but the low-sec region bordering it. Increased trade, business and general prosperity means that the authorities make more tax - as this is under Amarr authority it is safe to assume that this benefits the Amarrin exchequer. Before the CVA moved to this area it was a derelict backwater haunted by piratical bands. Now it has a thriving commercial community. In terms of 'will of the Emperor' well we don't have an Emperor - so that's kind of difficult to answer - however there are organisations such as the Thheology Council and other Amarrian institutions and there has been no indication that they are unhappy with our actions. Indeed we have received rewards from Amarrian Holder families (Mamet 500) for the excellent anti-piracy work that we do - benefiting their trade. Originally by: Nez Perces Going back in history slightly.. what was the RP justification for Imperial Dreams joining the CFS? No justification was needed. Imperial Dreams remained a member of the CVA and continued to provide direct and indirect support to other corporations in the CVA in their ongoing fight against Minmatar terrorism during this period. However, if your want a more in detail explanation then I am sure Aralis can fill you in if you contact him. Originally by: Nez Perces If your ultimate goal is to æreclaimÆ the 0.0 providence systems for the Amarrian Empire does that mean you ultimately expect CCP to incorporate Providence into Empire space? Our ultimate goal is to 'reclaim' ALL 0.0 systems for the Amarr Empire - although that is kind of beyond our capabilities at the moment ;-) Prior to Operation Deliverance the CVA fought a long campaign against piracy in Sarum Prime. Eventually Concord patrols were increased and it was redesignated as higher sec. We do hope that our 0.0 holdings are eventually recognised as sovereign Amarr territory and incorporated into the Empire. Originally by: Nez Perces Now here is the important question.. or at least I think so... if your goal is to simply extend Amarrian Rule into Providence as a reflection of the conditions found in Empire Spaceà do you believe that when the æfree spaceÆ term is used in reference to CVAÆs work in Providence it is infact a gross inaccuracy? Our space is 'free' in so much as any neutral pilot can come and operate there without being attacked by the resident alliance (us) simply for being there. Nor do we charge people taxes or fees for mining/hunting in our space. However, we do apply conditions to those who wish to fly around our space - namely that they respect some basic rules These include respect for the Empire, non-piracy whilst in our space, consulting and seeking permission from us for POS construction and I suppose you could add not macroing to that list now too. In return we protect the area to the best of our ability. Sometimes very effectively and sometimes with great difficulty depending on the forces challenging us. We do not give safety guarantees to those neutrals who operate under our protection but do our best to ensure their safety. Whether you consider that 'free-space' or not is up to you. It is not a term we use internally. However because we do not operate NBSI others (including many neutrals who do enjoy our hospitality) do apply that definition to us. You can make up your own mind... All I will say is that our 'model' has been successful for over two years despite many attempts to derail it. I am not arrogant enough (probably because I am Ni-Kunni) to assume it will last forever but it's performed satisfactorily so far. In summation Amarr Victor ------------------------------ Blog's back - for now
Sir Juri Caldari Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.05 18:08:00 - [81] Originally by: WETRAIN This just in from the Venal area , The Guristas have the fight of theyr lives in the belts nowadays, as the chinese farmers make 1 month old alts sometimes from 3 to 8 of them and train them for a raven and macro npc. As they adressed them with the simple words of "F*ing CHINESE FARMERS" local , from the Guristas they answered with their beat up english "In order To Live ..." as they where feeding theyr children by macro`ing.... My opinion? ***** KILL EM ALL EVERYWHERE EVERYWHERE KILL THE CHINESE NODES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CENSOR KILL THE EASTERN EUROPEAN NODES, KILL THEM EVERYWHERE, KILL EM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! **** need to make a new sig...
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.11.05 18:16:00 - [82] Originally by: Hardin In summation Amarr Victor Tyvm for your responses Hardin, Amarr Victor, indeed.
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.11.06 00:39:00 - [83] Originally by: Nez Perces Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: Nez Perces Do you think macroers get to setup shop in D2 space or LV space? Yes. See: Venal. ...errr .. Venal is contested space.. Joshua's Map... I was referring to space under undisputed control of D2 or LV and thus under NBSI. Since the map was just updated to show that D2 controls Venal(well MM, but that's a typo, it is D2)... Venal has a macroer problem, go up there and you can chase my favorite people like Sally007, boslai, sunlixiang, Red/Blue Dragonfly, etc. I don't quite remember what I was initially arguing, but yes, even mega-alliances like D2 have macro problems. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Krav Egad Inc. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.06 01:42:00 - [84] Originally by: Acron Ishtal As of this posting, any macro users caught in CVA space will be declared KOS and killed without mercy. Unfortunately a number of corporations have taken to recruiting these players, despite obvious breaches of the EULA and strong indicators of macro behavior. Corporations found to be harboring macro users that operate in our space will be notified of the offending macro user. This will NOT stop us from executing our KOS policy against these players. Respect to CVA. Best of luck hunting down these vermin. Krav =====
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.11.06 07:12:00 - [85] There have been a rash of macro NPCers in Venal. Its completely impossible to stop them without camping the systems they use all day long. They use an auto-log script. Best you can do is to get a free kill before they address book you and even then they make money. Its a sad state of affairs. The Enemy's Gate is Down

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