Thank you for disclosing our conversation, corbexx, and quoting me without permission. I know you're biased, but this is unbecoming of someone in your position. It was premature, out of context, and another betrayal of trust. The items you listed were just from the first page of a multipage thread on my forums (with my parentheses).

Thank you for disclosing our conversation, corbexx, and quoting me without permission. I know you're biased, but this is unbecoming of someone in your position. It was premature, out of context, and another betrayal of trust. The items you listed were just from the first page of a multipage thread on my forums (with my parentheses).

Anyway, those aren't my ideas; just random ideas that were proposed in corp.

"hurrdurr no I was just le trell facing"

really? This is the post of your prodigal return? I'm disappointed

Oh god you make me laugh so hard.

I love it. Also ...


No, the real posts were elsewhere. In a real thread.

Like people ever make profound posts in this subforum.

Also, won't removing watchlists fix this whole problem?

REMOVE FORUM

people need a reason to leave their POS and home wormhole ))))

That's easy to fix. There are plenty enough incentives to bring people out of the POS. Just add more environmental content. Doesn't change their aversion to consensual PvP, still.

That's easy to fix. There are plenty enough incentives to bring people out of the POS. Just add more environmental content. Doesn't change their aversion to consensual PvP, still.

Neither would it change your aversion not to blob everybody ... you want to change environment even trough this is player issue and you are responsible for it

Have managed to avoid it thusfar but as this won't cease.... in my experience LZHK are the last highclass entity you can accuse of risk aversion with a straight face.

Maybe others have different experience with them, perhaps things have changed with their corp since they grew but as far as interaction with my group goes can honestly say it's YOLO/engage with better fits + more dual/triple/quadboxing is how they operate.

If there are problems thanks to specific corps in C5-6 it doesn't come from LZHK.

by "you" i mean that blue blob of LZHX/QEX/HRDKX ... they are responsible of half of players from C5/C6 being gone and other half doenst want to fight them because they dont want to get blobbed .... and yet, here we are discuissing how to solve this player problem by changing environment in topic which creation is based on discussion between corbexx and hidden fremen ... that is bit of hypocritic from LZHX side ...
... anyway ... not saying that some changes for WH space wouldnt be bad, there is still too much WH space and too few entertainment here, but you cant blame this problem on system solely ... this is much more player responsibility ...

that is bit of hypocritic from LZHX side ...

Alright I'll do a serous post .... uhg.


The corps grow, so do the fleets. It's natural evolution and that is nobody's fault at all. We can't seriously expect corps to start limiting member intake or fleet sizes. It's just not gonna happen.

People see the fights and action these groups get involved in. It's epic ^^ People want to be a part of that, they join large, successful groups because they want to have that fun too. The corps grow, so do the fleets. It's natural evolution and that is nobody's fault at all. We can't seriously expect corps to start limiting member intake or fleet sizes. It's just not gonna happen.

So we need to start looking at other solutions to off-set the natural evolution of these things and in the end a lot of that is going to come down to environmental stuff. It just is. People can yell at the big groups all they want, but the reason they are big is because the are successful and people are always going to want to be involved in that. Big fleet fights, cap kills, all that stuff is why I stopped flying solo and wanted to join real corps for serious action. Didn't you?.

Closing recruitment seems to fix this issue for most people in eve.
Perhaps the leadership should realize that, seeing as wh space (as far as I remember) was a small/medium fleet's space, and not 100+ t3's blobfest like in k-space, and the said leaders should strive to keep pvp challenging and interesting, and not just anchoring with many t3s and acting as another pawn of someone's (FC's) isboxer.

For example look at all the cool things NoHo did with their medium sized fleets, all the cool fights.
Sadly the way things are going I think they were the last of their kind. No more fighting outnumbered, just a monotone t3 blob where no one except the fc is actually relevant. (yes if you die in your t3 during a fight, it changes nothing)

Hidden, Noobman and MaxDEL, don't you see that you are taking the challenging tasks out of the game, and games are supposed to be challenging, otherwise it takes the fun away, same way as using cheats/trainer/codes.

For long time there were lot of smaller groups fighting each other, no hard feelings, everybody had fun and WH life was fine and healthy, but some time later few of theese groups started to work together and wiping smaller groups for sport and thats the point where life in WH went to hell ...
And to your question ... i would love to be part of group that managed to be king of the hill by making themself better than other, but still having same chances to win as enemy did
But i definitelly wouldnt want to be part of this "group" that basically blobs and bullies everyone out of sport because they are biggest in WH, thats not fun, thats not even remotely fair, thats just big kid beating small kids one after another ...

True, I am slipping ...



Sorry senpai.

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Then why don't the small kids grow a pair, team up and take on the 'big boys' with the same numbers.

Then why don't the small kids grow a pair, team up and take on the 'big boys' with the same numbers.

True, I am slipping ...



Sorry senpai.

ed: **** sake Jester learn to quote.


Exactly.

I ran on the c5 highway recently (About 3 days ago). It was fun but it was also pretty much dead with just POS's up. Shattered has no issue regarding pos's, but in order for that to foster fights, there has to be something valuable to get in shattered, and they all need to be interconnected and capable of supporting 5 man fleets to 40 man fleets, caps included.

To do that, there has to be unique items in shattered space to obtain (to make people bring such huge armies in).

Yes that means rare mods that come from officers that spawn at the end of cap escallations in Shattered Space (so yea, you want it, your bringing in a bunch of caps to do it). Means rare items or possible new equipment to be built from the items that can only be obtained in shattered space. Such as New Subsystems that can be found and created only by items dropped in shattered space, or even a new T3 rig or something like that. I'm a little surprised they didn't just throw all the D3 destroyer stuff into the shattered wormholes (slower distribution). I suppose they could do so now but that'd be a different direction.

Incentive the need for going into shattered space, and interconnect shatters together to get people commiting fleets to either run sites in there, or get into fights in there, or roam through it.

Just some thoughts I had. Shattered space could be a viable route to drive wspace conflicts.

The number of evictions done by HK/Lazerhawks/QEX pales in comparison to the number of evictions done by nullsec groups in wormholespace lately. Yet nobody cares about those because they happen to the smaller groups that try to establish themself. This thread is so full of... posts that could have been more constructive. But meh. I'll enjoy c4 space and leave the nullsec farmers to whoever is actually left in c5/6 space.

let's just make statements without facts this is fun

Then why don't the small kids grow a pair, team up and take on the 'big boys' with the same numbers.

Then why don't the small kids grow a pair, team up and take on the 'big boys' with the same numbers.

it's really easy. you take all the 300man groups, make them into 50-100 man groups and remove all their blues.