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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:48:00 -
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Yes, I lost that vindicator. No, the loss doesnt **** me off. It's the way I lost it. Astarte hunting npcers around lowsec. I decide to pay him a visit. Warp to a belt, find him there, and voila. I lock, engage, and take him to half armor. At this time, local jumps. Curse and scorpion warp in. Goodbye cap, goodbye ability to lock anything. I look for a decent fight, and I get a 'Yey letsjustgoandbecoolandjamhim' encounter. Being jammed 100% after the scorp warped in, I lasted a little longer than 1 minute due to the curses nos. If having 1 ship totally remove your ability to do anything lock wise, and another remove your ability to repair damage TOTALLY isnt overpowered, then I guess eve sucks.
The point of this post. Delete ECM. It is a worthless peice of **** which does nothing to eve either way. All it does is create whines (such as this) and alot of un-fun and monotonous fights. ATM, capacitor power and, obviously, the ability to lock faster than the other person is i-win in eve. Do not say 'Omfg ur skilz sux lol' or 'lol get sum skilz' or anything along those lines. That would not have helped here. The fact that 3 ships can take down a 5 billion ISK ship is not the problem. It is the fact that just ONE can completely disable its ability to put up any form of fight. Fun, isnt it. ---
Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting! WTB Brokara's Modified Cap Booster |
lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: JoeT now lose a carrier to 3 BS and an inty. then you will become Ginger.
At least he gets insurance ---
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JoeT
Amarr Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:49:00 -
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now lose a carrier to 3 BS and an inty. then you will become Ginger. --- If i'm posting on the forums, it's mostly cause i'm at work :D
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JoeT
Amarr Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:50:00 -
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**** your right... hmm --- If i'm posting on the forums, it's mostly cause i'm at work :D
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Cloudis
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:51:00 -
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it was a curse and apoc that warped in.. and apoc hade no ecm, so I did both nos and ecm in the curse:) And yes the curse rocks
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Xaeon
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:51:00 -
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Curse, Apoc and Astarte actually. And you were asking for it, walking right into that one.
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Cloudis it was a curse and apoc that warped in.. and apoc hade no ecm, so I did both nos and ecm in the curse:) And yes the curse rocks
Something had ecm other than the curse. That or it had a tracking disruptor. ---
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Anderson
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Anderson on 03/11/2006 21:53:00 Wah. Cry about the features of Eve a bit more hmm? How many of these must there be: DELETE ECM! CCP put it in the game for a reason: the exact one that got you popped. It does it's job, and it does it well. I work on ECM irl, and if it didn't there'd be a lot more issues with modern warfare. It's a part of life. Deal. And look at your deathmail before you post on the forums...Last I checked, the Apoc is yellow and has no stinger...
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dormy
Caldari Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:53:00 -
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yes just to press some buttons the curse jammed you the whole time :) the apoc didint have any jammers (and there was no scorpion there)
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Anderson
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:55:00 -
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So you were jammed or TD'd? If you are TD'd you can still lock, and it's fairly easy to tell if you can lock or not...
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Anderson So you were jammed or TD'd? If you are TD'd you can still lock, and it's fairly easy to tell if you can lock or not...
I was jammed and TD'd. The jam, looking at fraps, failed right at the end of the fight (Like 10% struc left) ---
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Anderson
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.03 21:57:00 -
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Ah.
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Porter Hadlend
Gallente Righteous-Indignation
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:00:00 -
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I do feel your pain... I am both looking forward to the ECM change and fearing it a little because I'll have to find a slightly different setup for my ishtar. --------------
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:02:00 -
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Originally by: Porter Hadlend I do feel your pain... I am both looking forward to the ECM change and fearing it a little because I'll have to find a slightly different setup for my ishtar.
Tracking disruptors / sensor damps. At least the other person gets a chance to fight back with them fitted. Heh, the 50% ECM nerf does **** all tho. I've still been jammed for minute long periods by a single multispec II on SiSi ---
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DrLogan
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:02:00 -
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You attack an NPCer...and you die to his friends?
This game is HORRIBLE. What kind of game would allow such thing?
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: DrLogan You attack an NPCer...and you die to his friends?
This game is HORRIBLE. What kind of game would allow such thing?
Reading + understanding the whole post ftw ¼_¼ ---
Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting! WTB Brokara's Modified Cap Booster |
Deadeye Dave
Amarr DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:03:00 -
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I love Curses its one of the only Amarr ships that you can't say needs a boost. In some ways it would be better if they removed jamming or made it not such an I-WIN button but in some other ways I like winning.
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Anderson
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:04:00 -
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Same goes for reading your deathmails for ship types...
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Anderson Same goes for reading your deathmails for ship types...
S'ah. Apocalypse / Scorpion? Same difference ---
Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting! WTB Brokara's Modified Cap Booster |
Anderson
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:07:00 -
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Well, you know, aside from the Yellow thing and the whole stinger, and the lasers vs missiles...yeah same difference :)
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JoeT
Amarr Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:08:00 -
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apoc > scorp :) --- If i'm posting on the forums, it's mostly cause i'm at work :D
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DrLogan
New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: DrLogan on 03/11/2006 22:09:52
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: DrLogan You attack an NPCer...and you die to his friends?
This game is HORRIBLE. What kind of game would allow such thing?
Reading + understanding the whole post ftw ¼_¼
I understand what you mean. You are angry that the scorpion..and thereby ecm, killed you. And to make matters worse for you..there was a ship that drained your cap..which gave you no chance.
Quote: apoc > scorp :)
apoc with a a few ECCMs...maybe. =x
/me hugs his nooby scorp w/ 5x ecm multi spec II and BS V.
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Tammarr
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:09:00 -
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So... you now complain on the module that have helped you immensly? I sure think this should put some perspective into you, and how your victims felt. Except ofc they've been blatantly tricked =)
Fly safe
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Tammarr So... you now complain on the module that have helped you immensly? I sure think this should put some perspective into you, and how your victims felt. Except ofc they've been blatantly tricked =)
Fly safe
I used ECM on that navy raven. Because it had seige II, which hurt. My fit doesnt consist of ECM 99.99% of the time. ---
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Scoundrelus
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Scoundrelus on 03/11/2006 22:11:54
Originally by: lofty29 Yes, I lost that vindicator. No, the loss doesnt **** me off. It's the way I lost it. Astarte hunting npcers around lowsec. I decide to pay him a visit. Warp to a belt, find him there, and voila. I lock, engage, and take him to half armor. At this time, local jumps. Curse and scorpion warp in. Goodbye cap, goodbye ability to lock anything. I look for a decent fight, and I get a 'Yey letsjustgoandbecoolandjamhim' encounter. Being jammed 100% after the scorp warped in, I lasted a little longer than 1 minute due to the curses nos. If having 1 ship totally remove your ability to do anything lock wise, and another remove your ability to repair damage TOTALLY isnt overpowered, then I guess eve sucks.
The point of this post. Delete ECM. It is a worthless peice of **** which does nothing to eve either way. All it does is create whines (such as this) and alot of un-fun and monotonous fights. ATM, capacitor power and, obviously, the ability to lock faster than the other person is i-win in eve. Do not say 'Omfg ur skilz sux lol' or 'lol get sum skilz' or anything along those lines. That would not have helped here. The fact that 3 ships can take down a 5 billion ISK ship is not the problem. It is the fact that just ONE can completely disable its ability to put up any form of fight. Fun, isnt it.
Dude what the hell are you talking about? You roam around in high sec ganking noobs with a borderline tactic that is frowned upon. You just recently ganked a faction fitted ship with that tactic and did it USING ECM. Now you complain when you get ganked?
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Anderson
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:11:00 -
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Doc Logan... stop talking please... You don't get it... There was no scorp, it was an apoc. And it wasn't an NPCer he attacked, it was a guy hunting NPCers.
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Anderson
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Scoundrelus Edited by: Scoundrelus on 03/11/2006 22:11:54 [Oh and maybe now you should change your sig.
LMFAO I was just gettin ready to post that...
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Tammarr
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Tammarr So... you now complain on the module that have helped you immensly? I sure think this should put some perspective into you, and how your victims felt. Except ofc they've been blatantly tricked =)
Fly safe
I used ECM on that navy raven. Because it had seige II, which hurt. My fit doesnt consist of ECM 99.99% of the time.
I dont know everything you've shot to pieces. I do know some of the popular stories here include "was jammed most of the time" and if that siegeII hurt, did you go fit an ecm and your opponent was friendly enough to wait for you to do this, or was it already on there? :)
Dont be so annoyed on ecm now, remember thoose 5b in faction stuff might be good, but they may or may not be worth the price payed compared to t2/named. Love the player economy/supply&demand/inflation. Now go grind some iskies so you can fit your ship with 10b of stuffings the next time and still lose to 3 t2 bs pilots who know what they are doing when getting into a fight
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Rowan Mayfair
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:24:00 -
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OMG someone took the candy away from the playground bully?!? NERF!!!
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Scoundrelus
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Tammarr So... you now complain on the module that have helped you immensly? I sure think this should put some perspective into you, and how your victims felt. Except ofc they've been blatantly tricked =)
Fly safe
I used ECM on that navy raven. Because it had seige II, which hurt. My fit doesnt consist of ECM 99.99% of the time.
They used ECM on you because you hurt. Their fit doesnt consist of ECM 99.99% of the time. =============================================== We are Watching You. |
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Plim
Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:30:00 -
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I still think that ECM should be limited to ECM ships, and should require more SP investment. But if you will walk into a gank, it dosen't make much difference either way -----------------
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Tammarr I dont know everything you've shot to pieces. I do know some of the popular stories here include "was jammed most of the time" and if that siegeII hurt, did you go fit an ecm and your opponent was friendly enough to wait for you to do this, or was it already on there? :)
I have, on average, about 20 minutes from initiating the scan of a victims ship to the first shot fired. So, plenty of time to re-fit. ---
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Plim I still think that ECM should be limited to ECM ships, and should require more SP investment. But if you will walk into a gank, it dosen't make much difference either way
If I wasnt nossed, my tank wouldve only been going down at about 5% per rep cycle. I had the astarte on half armor quickly, and once that popped, that 5% would have gone. Oh well. ---
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Antaris Xenal
Gallente adeptus gattacus Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:43:00 -
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Ouch man, sorry to hear about the loss. I completely agree with you on the ECM subject. ECM needs to be nerfed to the extreme. I wish you luck in getting money back for that ship :(
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JoeT
Amarr Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: DrLogan
Quote: apoc > scorp :)
apoc with a a few ECCMs...maybe. =x
/me hugs his nooby scorp w/ 5x ecm multi spec II and BS V.
shhh dont tell my serect --- If i'm posting on the forums, it's mostly cause i'm at work :D
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Lance Hawke
Lunar Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:48:00 -
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Did you cry?
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lance Hawke Did you cry?
Theres a head-shaped dent in my wall if that counts. ---
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Deitre Cibrus
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.03 22:53:00 -
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Sorry to hear about that loss. People always flaming you/bashing you/whining about you have always made my day, hope you get to recover your loss . And yes, ECM ftl. Maybe fit a really good ECCM now?(Not that it helps much, but it might've saved you form being perma jammed) -----------
Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
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Leikeze Mrotserif
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2006.11.03 23:03:00 -
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Maybe you should have fit eccm.. or not go where people shoot back. -------------------------------------
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bringme2life
Caldari Cirrius Technologies
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Posted - 2006.11.04 00:09:00 -
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Hmm, quite funny to see you complaining how 'overpowered' ECM is...you are the one who uses those modules to gank ppl in high sec. Just as you did to me in Motsu, remember eh? And now you're telling that ECM should be removed. I find that really funny. Grow up, little child. ECM is a part of the game, and there are counters to deal with it.
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Kaar
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.04 00:14:00 -
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Different than ganking mission-noobs eh?
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xenodia
Gallente RONA Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.04 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 Yes, I lost that vindicator. No, the loss doesnt **** me off. It's the way I lost it. Astarte hunting npcers around lowsec. I decide to pay him a visit. Warp to a belt, find him there, and voila. I lock, engage, and take him to half armor. At this time, local jumps. Curse and scorpion warp in. Goodbye cap, goodbye ability to lock anything. I look for a decent fight, and I get a 'Yey letsjustgoandbecoolandjamhim' encounter. Being jammed 100% after the scorp warped in, I lasted a little longer than 1 minute due to the curses nos. If having 1 ship totally remove your ability to do anything lock wise, and another remove your ability to repair damage TOTALLY isnt overpowered, then I guess eve sucks.
The point of this post. Delete ECM. It is a worthless peice of **** which does nothing to eve either way. All it does is create whines (such as this) and alot of un-fun and monotonous fights. ATM, capacitor power and, obviously, the ability to lock faster than the other person is i-win in eve. Do not say 'Omfg ur skilz sux lol' or 'lol get sum skilz' or anything along those lines. That would not have helped here. The fact that 3 ships can take down a 5 billion ISK ship is not the problem. It is the fact that just ONE can completely disable its ability to put up any form of fight. Fun, isnt it.
Moral of the story ?? Faction battleships arent worth the price. Because no matter how much isk you spend on ships and fittings, you will still lose to a small group of pilots, or even one very skilled one.
I give you credit for engaging in PvP in a setup worth that much, but at the same time you knew ECM was in the game when you undocked, so dont come here and whine now that you lost. You had to know that was a possibility, unless you truely are like Ginger Magician in that you were so convinced of your own superiority you cant grasp the concept that you could lose.
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Pepperami
Art of War Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.04 00:37:00 -
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Don't you use an ECM Domi to kill people? Don't you trick people with poor gang mechanics?
You get killed fair and square and OMGWHINE, I kind of expected more from you.
Is this thread a joke? either way; LOL.
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Frightspear
5 November
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Posted - 2006.11.04 00:43:00 -
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ECM is a bit like forcing you to go and make a cup of coffee or answer the phone...
It's one of EVE's worst features tbh. When you warp into a grid and are forced to sit there whilst a group of players destroy your ship without the ability to do anything...its a bit like lag except you get to see everything thats happening.
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Captain Thunk
Explode. Now. Please.
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Posted - 2006.11.04 00:46:00 -
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No reason why you couldn't fit an ECCM module to a Battleship
CAPTAIN THUNK
If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire...The ENP-Team. |
ElCoCo
KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.04 01:14:00 -
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This is a joke right?
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.04 01:22:00 -
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Get a scout, and have some back up with you as you may need it. you wanna go completely solo thats fine, but you need to buy an alt that can fly frig cov-op or something.
Regarding ECM, i couldn't agree more, but something needs to replace it since people trained the skills for it, we can;t just screw them over because you lost a vindicator. You know you could ve bailed once you saw those ships in scanner inbound, or do you not keep an eye on scanner either?
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Corwain
Gallente Infinite Innovations
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Posted - 2006.11.04 01:24:00 -
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Karma's a *****. You kill people with what many consider to be gang expliots but CCP doesn't punish for, you are killed by what many consider a logon exploit but CCP doesn't punish for. I don't begrudge you your playstyle but if you expect those you prey upon to take it like men, then you too should take it like a man when it happens to you. I had quite a bit of respect for you before this post.
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Scoundrelus
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.11.04 01:54:00 -
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Originally by: Corwain Karma's a *****. You kill people with what many consider to be gang expliots but CCP doesn't punish for, you are killed by what many consider a logon exploit but CCP doesn't punish for. I don't begrudge you your playstyle but if you expect those you prey upon to take it like men, then you too should take it like a man when it happens to you. I had quite a bit of respect for you before this post.
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Dane Hur
Caldari DaHOOD Communication
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Posted - 2006.11.04 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 Fun, isnt it.
More sad then funny, you gank people in empire, by (mis)using the crappy gang mechanics, then you get ganked in low sec and come here and cry about it, yup pretty **** sad.
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Xaeon
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.04 02:06:00 -
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Just FYI about the ECM too. We had actually fitted specifically to kill you - so the curse only had gal jammers on as well as the tracking disruptor.
And you were looking for a "fair-fight" using a 5bn isk faction bs to take on a command ship? Irony?
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell You know you could ve bailed once you saw those ships in scanner inbound, or do you not keep an eye on scanner either?
As soon as local jumped I turned my vindi around and attempted to MWD to an aligned point. Alas, it was too late ---
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Arii Smith
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Posted - 2006.11.04 02:08:00 -
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I liked you more before you made this post Lofty, however I do agree that ECM needs to be changed.
The arguments I see that "because everyone can use it, it is balanced" is a load of rubbish. ECM needs to be altered in some way, and just because Lofty is a hypocrite does not make him any less right.
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: Xaeon Just FYI about the ECM too. We had actually fitted specifically to kill you - so the curse only had gal jammers on as well as the tracking disruptor.
And you were looking for a "fair-fight" using a 5bn isk faction bs to take on a command ship? Irony?
I never said fair once. Only fun. ECM = not fun. You did a good job with the trap, just ECM annoyed me. Im cooled down now tho. Ah well, s' just a game. Enjoy the modules (I guess) ---
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Arii Smith I liked you more before you made this post Lofty, however I do agree that ECM needs to be changed.
The arguments I see that "because everyone can use it, it is balanced" is a load of rubbish. ECM needs to be altered in some way, and just because Lofty is a hypocrite does not make him any less right.
Hypocritical as I am, I am trying to eliminate using ECM on my dominix at all, in favour of dual reps w/ a cap injector. Only thing I use ECM against are t2 seige ravens, never know when theyll load up rage ---
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Arii Smith
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Posted - 2006.11.04 02:14:00 -
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Three modules to do one modules work... (That is why I also fit ECM, because nothing else is even close to as effective)
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Xaeon
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.04 02:16:00 -
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Fair enough, and we will It's getting a knock in Kali anyhow - so the nerf is coming.
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 02:39:00 -
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Originally by: Xaeon Fair enough, and we will It's getting a knock in Kali anyhow - so the nerf is coming.
Well, its not coming too hard. I still had my hyperion jammed for 3 consecutive cycles by a single Multi II on SiSi Just luck I guess. ---
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.11.04 02:55:00 -
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Wow,
Isn't karma a *****?
Maybe you should go back to jamming people in npc setups. Pvp'rs are obviously above your skill level
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.04 03:19:00 -
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Whats with people and karma? why so sad?
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell Whats with people and karma? why so sad?
I know, its weird. Im happy(er) now Back to my old ways in Motsu. Watch the **** out, biatchez!! ---
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Snarls McGee
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Posted - 2006.11.04 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif Maybe you should have fit eccm.. or not go where people shoot back.
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Bill Shankly
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Posted - 2006.11.04 04:18:00 -
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lol lol
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Khatred
OMG I can post in the CAOD section now
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Posted - 2006.11.04 05:16:00 -
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You should stick with gang cheap tricks, obviously people shooting at you are annoying. _______________________________________________
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Gindar
Dragonfire Intergalactic Crusaders of Krom iPOD Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.04 06:04:00 -
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Edited by: Gindar on 04/11/2006 06:04:16
Originally by: lofty29 Yes, I lost that vindicator. No, the loss doesnt **** me off. It's the way I lost it. Astarte hunting npcers around lowsec. I decide to pay him a visit. Warp to a belt, find him there, and voila. I lock, engage, and take him to half armor. At this time, local jumps. Curse and scorpion warp in. Goodbye cap, goodbye ability to lock anything. I look for a decent fight, and I get a 'Yey letsjustgoandbecoolandjamhim' encounter. Being jammed 100% after the scorp warped in, I lasted a little longer than 1 minute due to the curses nos. If having 1 ship totally remove your ability to do anything lock wise, and another remove your ability to repair damage TOTALLY isnt overpowered, then I guess eve sucks.
The point of this post. Delete ECM. It is a worthless peice of **** which does nothing to eve either way. All it does is create whines (such as this) and alot of un-fun and monotonous fights. ATM, capacitor power and, obviously, the ability to lock faster than the other person is i-win in eve. Do not say 'Omfg ur skilz sux lol' or 'lol get sum skilz' or anything along those lines. That would not have helped here. The fact that 3 ships can take down a 5 billion ISK ship is not the problem. It is the fact that just ONE can completely disable its ability to put up any form of fight. Fun, isnt it.
so you were watching local and they stealth jumped in
thats pretty crafty.
however i hate to say i told you so but...
Magnetometric Backup Array i http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/electronicwarfare/sensorbackuparrays/magnetometricbackuparrays/2587.asp
Heavy Capacitor Booster I http://www.eve-online.com/itemdatabase/shipequipment/engineeringequipment/capacitorboosters/heavy/3576.asp
i sincerely hope you recover quickly from your loss
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REALITY X
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Posted - 2006.11.04 06:14:00 -
[66]
"Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." (Galatians 6:7 KJV)
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.11.04 06:37:00 -
[67]
Originally by: lofty29 It is the fact that just ONE can completely disable its ability to put up any form of fight. Fun, isnt it.
Well if a ship is designed with the intent to prevent other ships from being able to fight, where's the problem?
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Arii Smith
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Posted - 2006.11.04 06:40:00 -
[68]
To those idiots who keep vengefully posting "karma" comments, I hope you realize that taking pleasure in the suffering of another is exactly how you wind up in Lofty's position.
I am willing to take that risk (not believing in this karmic crap) and tell you guys that I hope you all lose a nice fancy ship too, or die in a fire.
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Pestillence
Chav-Scum
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Posted - 2006.11.04 06:52:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Arii Smith I hope you all lose a nice fancy ship too, or die in a fire.
Bringing RL into this is a bit over the top.
If you start hoping people die in fires in RL then you have problems
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Arii Smith
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Posted - 2006.11.04 06:54:00 -
[70]
I guess I went too far with my dramatic flair.
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Liu Kaskakka
PAK
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Posted - 2006.11.04 08:10:00 -
[71]
Originally by: lofty29
Do not say 'Omfg ur skilz sux lol' or 'lol get sum skilz' or anything along those lines. That would not have helped here. The fact that 3 ships can take down a 5 billion ISK ship is not the problem. It is the fact that just ONE can completely disable its ability to put up any form of fight. Fun, isnt it.
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Deadeye Dave
Originally by: lofty29
650k SP in drones ftw
Whoa! Gallente Spec Character who flies Nosdoms with 650k in Drones?
Gal spec in cruisers / battlecruisers. Large hybred 5 finishes in a few days
'Omfg ur skilz sux lol' 'lol get sum skilz'
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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Benglada
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.11.04 08:34:00 -
[72]
Edited by: Benglada on 04/11/2006 08:35:00
Originally by: JoeT now lose a carrier to 3 BS and an inty. then you will become Ginger.
OWNED.
Edit: To add something constructive, this is how eve pvp has been for awhile ---------------------------
Originally by: Arkanor
0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
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Aakron
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 09:23:00 -
[73]
I really would sympathise with any pilot, except you've funded the entire ship by ganking mission runners and using borderline exploits to enable you to shoot them, perhaps if you'd used your noob war alts as scouts around the system you'd have had prior warning of the other ships.
Learn to fly cheap ships against good opponents, just because you have a 5bn isk vinidicator doesnt mean you should be invulnerable.
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Corwain
Gallente Infinite Innovations
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Posted - 2006.11.04 09:57:00 -
[74]
Edited by: Corwain on 04/11/2006 09:57:46
Originally by: Arii Smith To those idiots who keep vengefully posting "karma" comments, I hope you realize that taking pleasure in the suffering of another is exactly how you wind up in Lofty's position.
I am willing to take that risk (not believing in this karmic crap) and tell you guys that I hope you all lose a nice fancy ship too, or die in a fire.
I've never met the guy and I don't care who he ganks or what they're flying. In the end it's just a game and what he does is not illegal like doing it in real life would be. I just find it ironic in the greatest that he lost a faction ship in a similar way to how he killed others faction ships. I do not enjoy his loss, it is just...karma. While I am not a strict believer in karma I know it when I see it.
The only negative feeling I do feel is annoyance that he's in here with a whine thread about it after he posts "Don't wine its just a game" in his victims whine threads.
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Pesadel0
Vagabundos
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Posted - 2006.11.04 10:15:00 -
[75]
LOl.
Payback is a b***.
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.04 10:52:00 -
[76]
i'm not sure if this has been said yet but have you heard of eccm? I fly a vindi solo and will never go far without that 5th slot being the best eccm u can buy. Doing this i have fought domi's with ecm, megas with heavy ecm drones etc with no problem. So i see no problem with this situation. you were jammed by a ship whose primary role is to jam to which you presumably chose to have no defence against.
DE
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Chode Rizoum
Minmatar Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:10:00 -
[77]
lofty your such a drama queen
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LVSOCOM
Minmatar The Rat Pack
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:14:00 -
[78]
So do we get to see the destroyed portion of the killmail?
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:20:00 -
[79]
Originally by: LVSOCOM So do we get to see the destroyed portion of the killmail?
podbase.com
DE
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Larake
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:32:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Larake on 04/11/2006 11:38:34
Justice prevails. Hats off and top marks to the killers :) You have my respect.
As for Lofty what a hypocrit. You deserved this so quit the whines! (The last sentence is the exact kind response you reserve for the victims of your exploits).
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:37:00 -
[81]
LOL.Welcome to low sec lofty. This happens to me all the time but I normally either win or withdraw. Unfortunately for u there are not many faction ships piloted by noobs here I'm afraid
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:38:00 -
[82]
MDK does a good job. Lofty is quite laughable when it comes down to this, if you spend months wasting your time on mission runners. I can't exactly give you credit for fitting a bunch of racial jammers and going against npcers, it's not exactly a hard task. The hard task would be to find the idiots that may accept the gang invites.
In the end, You've lost a ship you weren't skilled enough to fly, put into a situation where your opponents beat you at your own game, and by this.. Well after dealing with a couple of Jam+Jam=Win mission runners all the time, i can't exactly beleive you'd even know how to react to anything that doesn't get jammed down and dies slowly.
And there i was wondering who the hell you were and what you were doing as a whole, in EVE... Well, Maybe in 6 months, when you've done your work again for another fully fitted vindicator.. You'll have the skills and the mentality to survive another trap, or die and get a bit more fame under your belt.
I've read like 3-4 topics concerning this subject because i couldn't sleep.. haha, Well worth the effort and i'll see you in D-C..
Fame *****.
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Voltron
Caldari Black Lance Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.04 11:45:00 -
[83]
And these are the days of our lives......
Volt
It's great touching your own dink isn't it?
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:14:00 -
[84]
Edited by: Zaethiel on 04/11/2006 12:15:36
Quote: So do we get to see the destroyed portion of the killmail?
Vindicator Mail _________________________________________
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Deadeye Dave
Amarr DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2006.11.04 12:58:00 -
[85]
What was in his 5th mid slot?
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Venarator
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Posted - 2006.11.04 13:13:00 -
[86]
This is the same guy who has basically been boasting about his high sec ganks and his ecm domi???
Then whines when it hapens to him?
LMFAO what goes around come around - well done those that got him, had it coming
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Bosie
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Posted - 2006.11.04 13:58:00 -
[87]
Pot, kettle and black come to mind.
Bosie.
"There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND."
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Cloudis
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.04 14:02:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Deadeye Dave What was in his 5th mid slot?
another Domination Warp Disruptor
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.11.04 14:12:00 -
[89]
Wow it took you about 5 minutes between losing the ship and spamming the forums with this post. Im impressed.
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.11.04 14:28:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Fuglife on 04/11/2006 14:28:43 i made you a new sig: Linkage ---
Lodhi ftg |
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Electric Cucumber
Amarr Extinction Level Event
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Posted - 2006.11.04 16:09:00 -
[91]
Adapt, fit ECCM (it works)
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0Virtu0
Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.04 16:12:00 -
[92]
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO MEEEEEEE....
That pretty much sums up this topic. Back to pretending you PvP in hi-sec, lofty
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DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.04 16:32:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Electric Cucumber Adapt, fit ECCM (it works)
it really does. i think he's thinking now and realises his mistake. with ecm how it is atm flying a faction ship solo without eccm is extremely risky.
DE
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Scoundrelus
Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.04 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Scoundrelus on 04/11/2006 17:49:36 Xaeon's Stats
Do you upload any of your losses? =============================================== We are Watching You. |
DarkElf
Caldari Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.11.04 17:55:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Scoundrelus Edited by: Scoundrelus on 04/11/2006 17:49:36 Xaeon's Stats
Do you upload any of your losses?
lol i was thinking that.
DE
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Katamarino
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Posted - 2006.11.04 18:10:00 -
[96]
Post his losses? I'm thinking not! What a hero!
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Weix
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Posted - 2006.11.04 18:22:00 -
[97]
Lofty, you narcissistic little brat, will you stop wasting space on this forum ffs!!! IMO you are too dumb to **** and to much of a coward to take on a real fight as I have bumped in too many post saying ' Killed and tricked by L...' Now YOU are killed (not even tricked) yourself in your fancy Vindicator while attacking a lone rat hunter... LOL. Dont cry about ECM being overpowered considering your own strategy taking advantage of other peoples trust to get rich. So please, and for the sake of many other EVE citizens, stop posting these crappy topics (you almost start to look like Tiller) and spare us the products spawning from your apoptotic brain.
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Kharakan
Amarr GREY COUNCIL
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Posted - 2006.11.04 18:31:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Weix Lofty, you narcissistic little brat, will you stop wasting space on this forum ffs!!! IMO you are too dumb to **** and to much of a coward to take on a real fight as I have bumped in too many post saying ' Killed and tricked by L...' Now YOU are killed (not even tricked) yourself in your fancy Vindicator while attacking a lone rat hunter... LOL. Dont cry about ECM being overpowered considering your own strategy taking advantage of other peoples trust to get rich. So please, and for the sake of many other EVE citizens, stop posting these crappy topics (you almost start to look like Tiller) and spare us the products spawning from your apoptotic brain.
You fail.
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain (to Dark Shikari) HAHAHA I KNOW YOUR ACCOUUNT NAME TIME TO DIE
this signature space is claimed in the name of eris, haha I got to him first. neeneer
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 18:46:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Weix Lofty, you narcissistic little brat, will you stop wasting space on this forum ffs!!! IMO you are too dumb to **** and to much of a coward to take on a real fight as I have bumped in too many post saying ' Killed and tricked by L...' Now YOU are killed (not even tricked) yourself in your fancy Vindicator while attacking a lone rat hunter... LOL. Dont cry about ECM being overpowered considering your own strategy taking advantage of other peoples trust to get rich. So please, and for the sake of many other EVE citizens, stop posting these crappy topics (you almost start to look like Tiller) and spare us the products spawning from your apoptotic brain.
If you read the whole thread, you'd see that I know I made a mistake falling for an obvious trap, and that I do not care too much about loosing the actual vindicator. It is that there was no way for me to possibly fight back due to ECM removing my ability to lock at all. Yes, I know I've killed people in hi-sec and that I've used ECM, but now that I have had it used against me in a real, expensive combat scenario, I've stopped using it upon my dominix. It's ghey and should be returned to how it was before, using stacking to decide what would be jammed. ---
Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting! WTB Brokara's Modified Cap Booster |
X ChaosX
Panzershrek Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.04 19:03:00 -
[100]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Weix Lofty, you narcissistic little brat, will you stop wasting space on this forum ffs!!! IMO you are too dumb to **** and to much of a coward to take on a real fight as I have bumped in too many post saying ' Killed and tricked by L...' Now YOU are killed (not even tricked) yourself in your fancy Vindicator while attacking a lone rat hunter... LOL. Dont cry about ECM being overpowered considering your own strategy taking advantage of other peoples trust to get rich. So please, and for the sake of many other EVE citizens, stop posting these crappy topics (you almost start to look like Tiller) and spare us the products spawning from your apoptotic brain.
If you read the whole thread, you'd see that I know I made a mistake falling for an obvious trap, and that I do not care too much about loosing the actual vindicator. It is that there was no way for me to possibly fight back due to ECM removing my ability to lock at all. Yes, I know I've killed people in hi-sec and that I've used ECM, but now that I have had it used against me in a real, expensive combat scenario, I've stopped using it upon my dominix. It's ghey and should be returned to how it was before, using stacking to decide what would be jammed.
I bet that raven with t2 siege didn't enjoy not being able to fight back, but its alright because he hurt a bit isn't it? According to you, you were hurting the Astarte a bit, so why is using ecm wrong there? ___
Originally by: Bill Shankly i see your another one of those lousy pirates that cant fight fair and call yourself apvper, what a joke u are.
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 19:06:00 -
[101]
Originally by: X ChaosX I bet that raven with t2 siege didn't enjoy not being able to fight back, but its alright because he hurt a bit isn't it? According to you, you were hurting the Astarte a bit, so why is using ecm wrong there?
I didnt know just how lame it was previously ---
Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting! WTB Brokara's Modified Cap Booster |
Larake
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Posted - 2006.11.04 19:17:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Larake on 04/11/2006 19:18:02
Originally by: lofty29 If you read the whole thread, you'd see that I know I made a mistake falling for an obvious trap, and that I do not care too much about loosing the actual vindicator. It is that there was no way for me to possibly fight back due to ECM removing my ability to lock at all....It's ghey and should be returned to how it was before, using stacking to decide what would be jammed.
All Original Quotes by: Lofty29 from thread
Trickt and Kild by lofty29
"Yarr. Race-specific ECM is quite overpowered "
"Wasnt foul play, im afraid."
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Ihar Enda
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.04 19:25:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Xaeon It's getting a knock in Kali anyhow - so the nerf is coming.
I killed a Hyperion with a Myrmidon on sisi today. Had 2 multi and 6 med nos fitted
Yes, I'd rather have ECM removed from the game also. Or changed so that it's not luck based.
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Godar Marak
Amarr Return Of Red Dawn
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Posted - 2006.11.04 20:01:00 -
[104]
Originally by: lofty29 Yes, I lost that vindicator.
Time to uppdate your signature then?
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 20:41:00 -
[105]
Edited by: lofty29 on 04/11/2006 20:41:57
Originally by: Godar Marak
Originally by: lofty29 Yes, I lost that vindicator.
Time to uppdate your signature then?
Its a navythron
Originally by: Lo3d3R well well thats a s hitty loss there, hmmmz /me pats lofty on the back, I trust you'll be back in business soon.
Of course. Had 120m this morning (in the wallet) and im back up to 560 already with 250m of loot. Booyah! ---
Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting! WTB Brokara's Modified Cap Booster |
Lo3d3R
Implant Liberation Front Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.04 20:41:00 -
[106]
well well thats a s hitty loss there, hmmmz /me pats lofty on the back, I trust you'll be back in business soon. ___________________
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Intigo
Amarr Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.11.04 21:16:00 -
[107]
Such an attention seeker... -- Small-time pirate. Upgraded from trial account as of 14th September 2006. Loving every part of EVE so far. \o/ Low SP piracy |
Nyphur
Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 21:27:00 -
[108]
You became ginger a while ago, lofty :D.
Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources. |
Cadela Fria
Amarr eXin Alliance Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.04 21:44:00 -
[109]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Weix Lofty, you narcissistic little brat, will you stop wasting space on this forum ffs!!! IMO you are too dumb to **** and to much of a coward to take on a real fight as I have bumped in too many post saying ' Killed and tricked by L...' Now YOU are killed (not even tricked) yourself in your fancy Vindicator while attacking a lone rat hunter... LOL. Dont cry about ECM being overpowered considering your own strategy taking advantage of other peoples trust to get rich. So please, and for the sake of many other EVE citizens, stop posting these crappy topics (you almost start to look like Tiller) and spare us the products spawning from your apoptotic brain.
If you read the whole thread, you'd see that I know I made a mistake falling for an obvious trap, and that I do not care too much about loosing the actual vindicator. It is that there was no way for me to possibly fight back due to ECM removing my ability to lock at all. Yes, I know I've killed people in hi-sec and that I've used ECM, but now that I have had it used against me in a real, expensive combat scenario, I've stopped using it upon my dominix. It's ghey and should be returned to how it was before, using stacking to decide what would be jammed.
I wouldn't be concerned with Weix, he's an alt of someone who doesn't have the guts to speak up with his main and just wants to flame. All he has been doing in almost every thread, is trashtalking, flaming and being a general brainless *****.
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AshrakTheWhite
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.11.04 22:06:00 -
[110]
and you wasted 4 pages of database space for this?! bleh he had it coming :)
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2006.11.04 22:30:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Intigo Such an attention seeker...
Yeah he had to make a thread with my name in the title to get anyone to look at it.
Seriously lofty u have made a major fool of yourself with this thread.I suggest u keep your posts to yourself for a while while u still have some credibilty left.
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Xeriuz
Caldari The Puppet Masters.
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Posted - 2006.11.04 22:33:00 -
[112]
stop crying and adapt
and if you saying CCP should delete ECM then you must hate it very much for getting you Vindi downed, so it must have ****ed you of a little bit.
"The point of this post. Delete ECM. It is a worthless peice of **** which does nothing to eve either way."
well its gets guys like you killed i think that made them very happy
and yes it only takes an falcon or a scorp to jam you and you cant tough him in anyway but to bump him so if you think eve suck then dont play.
and a comenation of NOS ship, JAM ship and then the killer ship is the i-win gang
but if you were in a rattlesnake with FOF it whould have been different.
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0Virtu0
Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.04 22:34:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Originally by: Intigo Such an attention seeker...
Seriously lofty u have made a major fool of yourself with this thread.I suggest u keep your posts to yourself for a while while u still have some credibilty left.
Classic.
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Verone
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.11.04 22:35:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Originally by: Intigo Such an attention seeker...
Yeah he had to make a thread with my name in the title to get anyone to look at it.
Seriously lofty u have made a major fool of yourself with this thread.I suggest u keep your posts to yourself for a while while u still have some credibilty left.
Linkage
WWW.VETO-CORP.COM
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Xaeon
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.04 22:46:00 -
[115]
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: Scoundrelus Edited by: Scoundrelus on 04/11/2006 17:49:36 Xaeon's Stats
Do you upload any of your losses?
lol i was thinking that.
DE
Nah. I don't deny I've been killed a fair few times - but haven't done since we were posting all losses. Yarr
Chapter V |
Marcus TheMartin
Gallente CURSED LEGION OF DOOM Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.04 22:47:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Verone
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Originally by: Intigo Such an attention seeker...
Yeah he had to make a thread with my name in the title to get anyone to look at it.
Seriously lofty u have made a major fool of yourself with this thread.I suggest u keep your posts to yourself for a while while u still have some credibilty left.
Linkage
The Best Thing I've ever seen in local chat [15:17:21] sotmassacer > can someone give me a big battleship for a while
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Brother Todd
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Posted - 2006.11.04 22:59:00 -
[117]
ECM is overpowered, so is the mass stacking of NOS. I feel for lofty, even if he deserves it.
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 23:01:00 -
[118]
Originally by: lofty29 Yes, I lost that vindicator. No, the loss doesnt **** me off. It's the way I lost it. Astarte hunting npcers around lowsec. I decide to pay him a visit. Warp to a belt, find him there, and voila. I lock, engage, and take him to half armor. At this time, local jumps. Curse and scorpion warp in. Goodbye cap, goodbye ability to lock anything. I look for a decent fight, and I get a 'Yey letsjustgoandbecoolandjamhim' encounter. Being jammed 100% after the scorp warped in, I lasted a little longer than 1 minute due to the curses nos. If having 1 ship totally remove your ability to do anything lock wise, and another remove your ability to repair damage TOTALLY isnt overpowered, then I guess eve sucks.
The point of this post. Delete ECM. It is a worthless peice of **** which does nothing to eve either way. All it does is create whines (such as this) and alot of un-fun and monotonous fights. ATM, capacitor power and, obviously, the ability to lock faster than the other person is i-win in eve. Do not say 'Omfg ur skilz sux lol' or 'lol get sum skilz' or anything along those lines. That would not have helped here. The fact that 3 ships can take down a 5 billion ISK ship is not the problem. It is the fact that just ONE can completely disable its ability to put up any form of fight. Fun, isnt it.
If ECM was removed from what it is, how could you find a "decent fight" unless the other player is as old as you and has the same equipment. It was smart on their accord to do what they did and I would of done the same if I was in their position, it's just like when you where ganking those navy ravens in high-sec. I know the pain of it all however it's apart of EVE *sigh*.
Also what did you have in your 5th midslot? I'd carry around an ECCM, better to live another day instead of dieing while being jammed (that's not a quote btw lol).
Euro Empire/0.0 Gang PvP Recruitment |
Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 23:04:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Lo3d3R well well thats a s hitty loss there, hmmmz /me pats lofty on the back, I trust you'll be back in business soon.
yes he will be
yarr lofty, go get em.
Euro Empire/0.0 Gang PvP Recruitment |
Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.04 23:06:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Originally by: Intigo Such an attention seeker...
Yeah he had to make a thread with my name in the title to get anyone to look at it.
Seriously lofty u have made a major fool of yourself with this thread.I suggest u keep your posts to yourself for a while while u still have some credibilty left.
Although maybe this is all to make him an infamous pirate? If so I think hes succeded.
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Atomic Mayhem
Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.11.04 23:10:00 -
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Ok, so a couple days ago you pwned a npc fit navy raven in your nos domi with ecm.. now you get ganked in your faction bs cause you got jammed and you cry about ecm
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Outa Rileau
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Posted - 2006.11.04 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: 0Virtu0 Classic in two ways.
Originally by: Verone Linkage
I agree with these two people...
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Cadela Fria
Amarr eXin Alliance Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.04 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Outa Rileau
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Classic in two ways.
Originally by: Verone Linkage
I agree with these two people...
I agree with these 3 people (chain agree ftw!)
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Fuglife
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.11.04 23:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cadela Fria
Originally by: Outa Rileau
Originally by: 0Virtu0 Classic in two ways.
Originally by: Verone Linkage
I agree with these two people...
I agree with these 3 people (chain agree ftw!)
I agree with these 4 people ---
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IamBen
Caldari M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.04 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 Yes, I lost that vindicator. No, the loss doesnt **** me off. It's the way I lost it. Astarte hunting npcers around lowsec. I decide to pay him a visit. Warp to a belt, find him there, and voila. I lock, engage, and take him to half armor. At this time, local jumps. Curse and scorpion warp in. Goodbye cap, goodbye ability to lock anything. I look for a decent fight, and I get a 'Yey letsjustgoandbecoolandjamhim' encounter. Being jammed 100% after the scorp warped in, I lasted a little longer than 1 minute due to the curses nos. If having 1 ship totally remove your ability to do anything lock wise, and another remove your ability to repair damage TOTALLY isnt overpowered, then I guess eve sucks.
The point of this post. Delete ECM. It is a worthless peice of **** which does nothing to eve either way. All it does is create whines (such as this) and alot of un-fun and monotonous fights. ATM, capacitor power and, obviously, the ability to lock faster than the other person is i-win in eve. Do not say 'Omfg ur skilz sux lol' or 'lol get sum skilz' or anything along those lines. That would not have helped here. The fact that 3 ships can take down a 5 billion ISK ship is not the problem. It is the fact that just ONE can completely disable its ability to put up any form of fight. Fun, isnt it.
Your whole post is retarded for one reason. You say "no good fight". Because a vindicator vs. an npcing astarte is a good fight. If you wanted a fair fight you would have fought another vindicator. You were outnumbered 3 to 1. What did you expect? The guy who gets wasted by your blasters when his jammers fail will say the same thing. Nerf blasters.
P.S.-I use jammers, blasters and every single race/gun/missle/EW in this game on four different characters. I think tomorrow when you see this post you will see that you posted it when you were angry and not thinking clearly.
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Matori Kar
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Posted - 2006.11.04 23:55:00 -
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Waaahhhhhhhh Waaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Waaaaaaahhhhhhhh /cry more
That seems an appropriate response for this forum
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MurderCityDevil
HariKari And Combines
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Posted - 2006.11.05 00:03:00 -
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Simple rule of thumb in Tama/Suj area, if you see one MD-K member there are more just around the corner. Best to avoid unless you have similar numbers around your own corner.
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.05 00:06:00 -
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Lofty, id like to say i told you so. ITS e-o man, lol, what did you expect. People here talk about honor/fair play/karma, and all that b**ls**t that only happens in Ancient Real life. 90% of the posters here, just want to **** you off, there nothing else to it.g
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.05 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell Lofty, id like to say i told you so. ITS e-o man, lol, what did you expect. People here talk about honor/fair play/karma, and all that b**ls**t that only happens in Ancient Real life. 90% of the posters here, just want to **** you off, there nothing else to it.g
I know It makes me laugh when people try so hard. Was a fun experiment with the vindi tho, but yknow, 5b of mods < I-Win button. ---
Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting! WTB Brokara's Modified Cap Booster |
Leikeze Mrotserif
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2006.11.05 00:26:00 -
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No flame intended by this next question, but have you actually killed anybody in that vindi? -------------------------------------
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.05 00:27:00 -
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Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif No flame intended by this next question, but have you actually killed anybody in that vindi?
Nope. 2 fights. First one I was jammed the entier time. 2nd one....guess what! Life sucks ---
Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting! WTB Brokara's Modified Cap Booster |
Mazare Mircea
Gallente Delta team Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.05 00:31:00 -
[132]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif No flame intended by this next question, but have you actually killed anybody in that vindi?
Nope. 2 fights. First one I was jammed the entier time. 2nd one....guess what! Life sucks
Kinda ironic, don't you think ? Used a T1 barely named setup to kill faction ships with faction fittings, and then lose a 5 bil ISK faction ship without getting even 1 kill. :)
Now don't tell me there is no karma. :D -----
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Quarantine
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.11.05 01:03:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 I know It makes me laugh when people try so hard. Was a fun experiment with the vindi tho, but yknow, 5b of mods < I-Win button.
too bad the vindi doesn't have enough medslots to ... oh wait
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.05 02:08:00 -
[134]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif No flame intended by this next question, but have you actually killed anybody in that vindi?
Nope. 2 fights. First one I was jammed the entier time. 2nd one....guess what! Life sucks
Ouch.
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Redwolf
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.05 02:22:00 -
[135]
lol, funny thread.
Originally by: HippoKing Who cares if the game is coming up. Forums are back \o/
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.11.05 02:32:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif No flame intended by this next question, but have you actually killed anybody in that vindi?
Nope. 2 fights. First one I was jammed the entier time. 2nd one....guess what! Life sucks
Well if you are talking about the MDK fight clearly you weren't jammed all the time or you wouldn't have taken him into armour?
Plus you aren't the new Ginger M coz annoying and lame as he is he doesn't go around offering people help then using the lame "invite alt at war" and killing them. Least he actually war decs people.
Good work MDK always nice to see a whining forum attention seeker lose alot
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lofty29
Tolarri Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.11.05 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif No flame intended by this next question, but have you actually killed anybody in that vindi?
Nope. 2 fights. First one I was jammed the entier time. 2nd one....guess what! Life sucks
Well if you are talking about the MDK fight clearly you weren't jammed all the time or you wouldn't have taken him into armour?
Plus you aren't the new Ginger M coz annoying and lame as he is he doesn't go around offering people help then using the lame "invite alt at war" and killing them. Least he actually war decs people.
Good work MDK always nice to see a whining forum attention seeker lose alot
It was a massacre until the curse warped in. Only then did the fight begin. The astarte barely dented my armor. ---
Praxiteles Inc. is Recruiting!
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Ma'lice
Minmatar Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.05 03:02:00 -
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You Know what i love?
Jose Cuervo Gold.
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
And I'll whine all I like, I pay to use this forum, and I will use it. At least until you need to gang up to post here. |
Copine Callmeknau
The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.05 03:03:00 -
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Ironic? Maybe Karma? Maybe Hilarious? Definately
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Originally by: RUNYOUFOOLS wrong on so many levels you could only be more wrong if you where tuxford.
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Ma'lice
Minmatar Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.05 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Copine Callmeknau Ironic? Maybe Karma? Maybe Hilarious? Definately
But then it all boils down the size of the bottle of Jose Cuervo Gold, sitting on your desk.
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Originally by: Infinity Ziona
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Matrix Aran
Legio Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.11.05 03:15:00 -
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Classic thread ----
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Leikeze Mrotserif
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2006.11.05 04:05:00 -
[142]
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif No flame intended by this next question, but have you actually killed anybody in that vindi?
Nope. 2 fights. First one I was jammed the entier time. 2nd one....guess what! Life sucks
Well if you are talking about the MDK fight clearly you weren't jammed all the time or you wouldn't have taken him into armour?
Plus you aren't the new Ginger M coz annoying and lame as he is he doesn't go around offering people help then using the lame "invite alt at war" and killing them. Least he actually war decs people.
Good work MDK always nice to see a whining forum attention seeker lose alot
It was a massacre until the curse warped in. Only then did the fight begin. The astarte barely dented my armor.
With that fitting you had i would expect that to be the case. -------------------------------------
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Beringe
Raptus Regaliter
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Posted - 2006.11.05 04:13:00 -
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Even though I feel 0 (zero) pity for you, it does kind of suck to lose a ship like that to a gank. But that's the price of flying such a beast solo in lowsec. Brave, but ultimately not smart.
However, ECM is the great equalizer. Without it, it would always be up to numbers and expensive mods. Sure, it's overpowered as it is, but people *****ed just as much about it in the old days, when it was only viable for ECM boats like the scorp and the blackbird. And it *is* getting nerfed - hopefully a bit more than what we are hearing about on SiSi right now. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |
Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.05 04:38:00 -
[144]
Bump for funny thread.
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Labratory Rat
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Posted - 2006.11.05 09:21:00 -
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Quote: An old man turned ninety-eight He won the lottery and died the next day It's a black fly in your Chardonnay It's a death row pardon two minutes too late Isn't it ironic ... don't you think
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Ravelin Eb
Minmatar Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.11.05 13:07:00 -
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and as too ECM nerfed in Kali, this is utter lies. i still was jamming an unfortunate corpmate of mine for minutes at a time with 2 hypnos mutlispecs, even with his 92% backup.
on to topic:
owned, that is all....
Ravelin Eb
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Taipan Gedscho
Taipan Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29 (....)All it does is create whines (such as this) and alot of un-fun and monotonous fights(....)It is the fact that just ONE can completely disable its ability to put up any form of fight. Fun, isnt it.
im pretty sure they had fun.
so what's the problem again?
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Admiral Pieg
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.05 15:58:00 -
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haha, i love to read about people losing expensive stuff, no matter the person ______________
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.11.06 02:47:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Labratory Rat
Quote: An old man turned ninety-eight He won the lottery and died the next day It's a black fly in your Chardonnay It's a death row pardon two minutes too late Isn't it ironic ... don't you think
I hate her whiney-ness.
....it's great hi-jacking a meme isn't it?
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Aggravated
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.06 05:57:00 -
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Edited by: Aggravated on 06/11/2006 05:57:46 Ummmm didnt you kill a navy issue raven and 4b of his mods becuase you were usings a ECM nos domi?????
And now your complaining about ecm..........
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Royaldo
KVA Noble Inc. THE H0RDE
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Posted - 2006.11.08 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Twilight Moon
Originally by: Labratory Rat
Quote: An old man turned ninety-eight He won the lottery and died the next day It's a black fly in your Chardonnay It's a death row pardon two minutes too late Isn't it ironic ... don't you think
I hate her whiney-ness.
qft, only ironc about the song is the total lack of irony..
btw, ive laughed alot at this thread. nice read. more please.
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