Well, maybe we should just forget about it. I am hungry.

Shooting oficially stopped....now.

Sadly many people simply dont care enough to shoot the monument again.

Shooting was the pinnacle of EVE.
Pilots hand in hand fought for what was ours - EVE !

There is no doubt nor debate CCP made a mistake by limiting SKINS to T1 sh*t tier ships and then charging them insane prices.

Sadly it will take Hillmar a long time to understand what went wrong.
"Greed is good" part of upper management probably will never understand.

Logic is simple - if you pay 30$ for T1 skin then you will pay 90$ for T2 skin.
Because we all wear Japanese designer jeans for 1000 $ outside CCP.

Sadly Hillmar and his band of disillusioned helpers do not understand that you can make more money with a live horse that you take care of then by beating a dead horse with a large Japanese designer stick.

Changing SKINS to be used vertically for hulls would make people pay extra, because they would be worth it.
Say you buy Gallente cruiser SKIN for 30$ and then you can use it on all Gallente cruisers ( T1 / T2 / T3 ) variants .
Would that make you a satisfied customer ? Of-course it would.
Also with larger amount of people buying CCP would receive more revenue.


Its not rocket science CCP.

Just ask former CCP employees at Riot. Im sure they can give you a hint or 10.

I think limiting skins per ship class (for example cruisers - regardless of tech level) won't make either side happy:

The bug discussed at the beginning of this thread shows that the skins don't actually fit T2 or T3 models, and CCP has indicated that they have to work at making skins that fit, and they have to QA the T2/T3 ships to make sure there aren't any visual glitches. Asking for a skin that fits T1, T2, and T3 cruisers means CCP has to do this work, just because we decided to use this particular way of classifying our ships. It's probably easier for them to have skins that fit all T1 ships, and then work on the T2 and T3 ship models one by one, to get skins for them.

And from the player point of view, if they do this work, making sure that frigate skins fit all frigates, cruiser skins all cruisers, etc., why not do the job right and code a system where each skin fits ALL ships. At which point, artificially limiting these universal skins to certain ship classes would be as artificial as limiting them to individual ships. It's fine if that's what CCP wants to do with the pricing, but their price points will still be judged based on the fact that it's possible for each skin to work on all ships.

I think limiting skins per ship class (for example cruisers - regardless of tech level) won't make either side happy:

The bug discussed at the beginning of this thread shows that the skins don't actually fit T2 or T3 models, and CCP has indicated that they have to work at making skins that fit, and they have to QA the T2/T3 ships to make sure there aren't any visual glitches. Asking for a skin that fits T1, T2, and T3 cruisers means CCP has to do this work, just because we decided to use this particular way of classifying our ships. It's probably easier for them to have skins that fit all T1 ships, and then work on the T2 and T3 ship models one by one, to get skins for them.

And from the player point of view, if they do this work, making sure that frigate skins fit all frigates, cruiser skins all cruisers, etc., why not do the job right and code a system where each skin fits ALL ships. At which point, artificially limiting these universal skins to certain ship classes would be as artificial as limiting them to individual ships. It's fine if that's what CCP wants to do with the pricing, but their price points will still be judged based on the fact that it's possible for each skin to work on all ships.

The problem isn't we want it all now. The problem is we want to know what the Plan is.
We want to know will we be able to skin any ship any way, and if not, what will be the limits?
Will we see Skins available for more than just AUR and the 30day drops.
Will we get some sort of SANE pricing on the NES, cause atm prices seem totally random.
It costs more than a PLEX to get a Sarum Tormentor.. a T1 Frig skin. I can get a Syndicate Myrm, Roden Brutix, and an Interbus Vexor for that, and have Aurum left over. It's totally random. It costs the same to get an Khanid Aeon Skin as it does the Apoc, or the Oracle..


We keep asking the questions, CCP keeps saying we hear you, and we hear NOTHING back.

I want to know what CCP's plans are. THEN we can have a talk about the direction.. At the moment we are all sitting here blind, with a few scraps of Skins, and no idea where things will go.

To add insult to injury, when CCP finally said they were gonna let us in on the plan, they then decided not too because there were some vague posts made on ANOTHER site, that in no way laid out what CCP was GOING to do, just what some dev's personal opinions were..

Oddly enough, that Merlin SKIN is trading on market at around 35,000,000.00, and I'm still trying to figure out what the cause of the massive depreciation is. It's 3.5% of its listed AUR value (4,300 AUR est 1,020,000,000.00 ISK).

All skins were withdrawn from sale at the time of the announcement and all existing ship skins were converted on patch day to base ships and skins in the owners' redemption queues. Some of those skins were then relisted in the NES at the new, higher price reflecting their permanent status.

All skins were withdrawn from sale at the time of the announcement and all existing ship skins were converted on patch day to base ships and skins in the owners' redemption queues. Some of those skins were then relisted in the NES at the new, higher price reflecting their permanent status.

OK wait. They were removed from the NES but then they weren't... that means they weren't.

We should have a dev blog for you guys early next week that's going to have a decent amount of content in it for you to take a look at.

On test server: Maurader T2 BS skins. Kronos has Police skin and freaking Blood Raider Paladin..

This means ccp crunched data after "bug weekend" and found the most popular skins and biggest request, mauraders, and now trying to capitalize heavily on it.

Ccp this is like the opposite of what you should be doing.

They should be giving away all of the Skins for the price of one right? How dare they try and make money by provide something that people have been asking for. (end of sarcasm)

Joking aside, it is mainly just the same few people keeping this thread alive, and asking for something which is completely unreasonable given that CCP has spent months working on and implementing this new system.

On test server: Maurader T2 BS skins. Kronos has Police skin and freaking Blood Raider Paladin..

This means ccp crunched data after "bug weekend" and found the most popular skins and biggest request, mauraders, and now trying to capitalize heavily on it.

Ccp this is like the opposite of what you should be doing. Yes we want t2 skins, yes we want police and blood raider and even maurader skins. But we want you to fix the prices and availability and restrictions first.

You better explain yoselfs tomorrow.

Like seriously, devblog promised last week, and they now silently sneaking new higher priced hull-restricted skins in again just to cash out?


Devblog asap

They should be giving away all of the Skins for the price of one right? How dare they try and make money by provide something that people have been asking for. (end of sarcasm)

Joking aside, it is mainly just the same few people keeping this thread alive, and asking for something which is completely unreasonable given that CCP has spent months working on and implementing this new system.

Maybe people just refuse to pay more than 40mill (1/20th of a plex) on the frigate skin?
Supply N Demand?