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Glumpumpkin
House Elf Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:21:00 -
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I, for one, think that 'warp to 0' cheapens the quality of the game and that any arguments in favor of it are completely bogus. Even if I have the capability to warp to 0, I pledge that I will set my default warp distance to 15, and rely on purchased insta sets to travel through dangerous space.
/signed
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Christina Vallentine
Caldari Tau Ceti Global Production Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:26:00 -
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Edited by: Christina Vallentine on 07/11/2006 07:27:56 Edited by: Christina Vallentine on 07/11/2006 07:27:23
Originally by: Glumpumpkin I, for one, think that 'warp to 0' cheapens the quality of the game and that any arguments in favor of it are completely bogus. Even if I have the capability to warp to 0, I pledge that I will set my default warp distance to 15, and rely on purchased insta sets to travel through dangerous space.
/signed
LOL @ U.
Cause bookmarks that warp you to the exact same point that a 0km warp would are better right? Cause instas dont add a massive amount of crap to the database right? Get over it.
/Not signed
get a life and get over it
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Nanobotter Mk2
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:29:00 -
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No offense but your uhm not very smart or having a bad day. What you just said is that warping to zero cheapens the game so you will refuse to use it and instead warp to 0 with bookmarks instead...... IE do that EXACT SAME THING.
NEWS FLASH WARP TO 0KM IS A INSTA BOOKMARK, the onyl difference is everyone gets a fullset of bookmarks instead of only those knowledgable to make thier own or buy them, and in the process server lag is cut immensly, and the hassle to organizing bookmarks is gone. So please stop the absolutely retarded drama, as you already stated you already use the warp to 0km option the only difference the menu you click to acheive it.... I just can;t beleive how senseless people are.... I mean you actually had the nerve to state that you currently WARP to 0km after stating you think warping to 0km cheapens the quality of the game mind boggling truly mind boggling.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:30:00 -
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You are an idiot. Instas create lag.
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Aloysius Knight
Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:30:00 -
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Originally by: Glumpumpkin I, for one, think that 'warp to 0' cheapens the quality of the game and that any arguments in favor of it are completely bogus. Even if I have the capability to warp to 0, I pledge that I will set my default warp distance to 15, and rely on purchased insta sets to travel through dangerous space.
/signed
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[x] Blow me [ ] Get a life [ ] Never post again [x] I pity your dog [ ] Go to Hell [ ] Your IQ must be 7 [ ] Take your rejection somewhere else [ ] STFU & GTFO [ ] Learn to post [x] Go jump into some industrial equipment [ ] All of the above [ ] IBTL ============================================== The preceding Forum Flame Form was constructed for use on people not worthy of actual thought or effort in being flamed. People so STUPID that a simple copy/paste and a few check marks is all that's necessary to properly relay the flamer's contempt for the flame.
You have been identified as such a person and as such, this flame was brought to you in under 10 seconds of your post being read. http://www.stevie.prince.dsl.pipex.com/AloysiusKnight.jpg http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2107/nodecrashsiggb9.jpg Chose one, you must. Two is the way of pure ebilness, and pure ebilness is bad -ReverendM |

Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:31:00 -
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I feel another [23] style thread coming on...
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Dragonis Mendez
Total Disillusion
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:32:00 -
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??? So you rather use instas, use a lot of server performance and lag all other players to hell with copiing BMs and saving them at the server instead of using the warp to 0 even though it is exactly the same? (exept the performance thing etc)
Ok get happy with this :) I'm looking forward to the warp to 0 option
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Glumpumpkin
House Elf Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:36:00 -
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Main Entry: iro+ny Pronunciation: 'I-r&-nE also 'I(-&)r-nE Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -nies Etymology: Latin ironia, from Greek eirOnia, from eirOn dissembler 1 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning -- called also Socratic irony 2 a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning b : a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony c : an ironic expression or utterance
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=421075&page=2#36
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Christina Vallentine
Caldari Tau Ceti Global Production Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:36:00 -
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Originally by: Glumpumpkin I, for one, think that blah blah blah blah blah blah
/signed
You get NOTHING, You Lose! Good Day sir!
P.S. The checkmarks flame was awesome. I just laughed so hard I cried.
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Glumpumpkin
House Elf Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:37:00 -
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In other words, the joke is on YOU.
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Aloysius Knight
Minmatar Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Glumpumpkin In other words, the joke is on YOU.
in other words, YOU are a moron http://www.stevie.prince.dsl.pipex.com/AloysiusKnight.jpg http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2107/nodecrashsiggb9.jpg Chose one, you must. Two is the way of pure ebilness, and pure ebilness is bad -ReverendM |

Christina Vallentine
Caldari Tau Ceti Global Production Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Glumpumpkin In other words, the joke is on YOU.
Cause I am supposed to read up on your post history before I reply to a thread you started in the name of stupidity?
Nice try, keep working on that. The only joke that I see here is you 
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darklegionca
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:43:00 -
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the fact you cant post with your main cheapens this fourm and the people having to read your retarded comment about somthing you dont understand ------------------------------------ darklegionca - One name. One legend. |

Death Kill
Caldari direkte
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:43:00 -
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Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Dear:
That has to be the LEAST funny, and least original atempt at flaming I have ever seen.
I cant belive retards still use that lame joke.
N=R* x fp x ne x fl x Fi x fc x L |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:45:00 -
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Not signed unless they remove my Veldspar instas in the process - then signed.
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Glumpumpkin
House Elf Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.11.07 07:47:00 -
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Originally by: Christina Vallentine
Originally by: Glumpumpkin In other words, the joke is on YOU.
Cause I am supposed to read up on your post history before I reply to a thread you started in the name of stupidity?
Nice try, keep working on that. The only joke that I see here is you 
I think it says a lot more about the quality of the rest of the posts in this forum for an idea as ridiculous as this one to be taken seriously.
Irony is one of the higher forms of humor, generally requiring a complex understanding of the issue being addressed for it to be understood. Thanks for playing, though ;)
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Butter Dog
The Dead Miners Society
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Posted - 2006.11.07 08:19:00 -
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/not signed
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Golerre Evraun
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Posted - 2006.11.07 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Glumpumpkin I, for one, think that 'warp to 0' cheapens the quality of the game and that any arguments in favor of it are completely bogus. Even if I have the capability to warp to 0, I pledge that I will set my default warp distance to 15, and rely on purchased insta sets to travel through dangerous space.
/signed
have fun with that, I for one pledge that if a 'warp to 0' option is released into kali I will immediately delete all of my 5,287 bookmarks which will free up both database space and database seek time for all 6 of the characters I run here, thus making for a much more enjoyable game for everyone around me. and i also pledge to immediately block all whining pirates . <Block engaged> ---------------------------------------- If you ain't dyin, You Ain't tryin. |

Victor Valka
Caldari Archon Industries
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Posted - 2006.11.07 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Glumpumpkin Irony is one of the higher forms of humor, generally requiring a complex understanding of the issue being addressed for it to be understood. Thanks for playing, though ;)
Irony also requires a bit of knowledge about the person attempting irony as well as a good delivery on the part of said person.
Of that, we have none here.
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
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Posted - 2006.11.07 08:34:00 -
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A lot of people don't realize that BMs were not designed for instas and when people started using BMs for making instas, the debate was if it was an exploit or not. Clearly people think that instas were always in the game - they were not.
I think that nothing should be able to warp closer then 15kms to any object in space. Thats how it was ment to be, and thats how it should be.
If people want to play a game that is completely controled and safe outside of 'pre-designated' areas, please go play wow. Battlegrounds =/= 0.0 and at this rate, it basically is becoming that way.
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Xsag
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2006.11.07 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Originally by: Glumpumpkin I, for one, think that 'warp to 0' cheapens the quality of the game and that any arguments in favor of it are completely bogus. Even if I have the capability to warp to 0, I pledge that I will set my default warp distance to 15, and rely on purchased insta sets to travel through dangerous space.
/signed
Dear:
[x] Clueless Newbie [ ] Loser [ ] AOL-er [ ] 12 year old [ ] Troll [ ] Pervert [ ] Geek [ ] Spammer [ ] Wannabe [ ] Asskisser [ ] l337 d00d [ ] Flamer [x] Whiner [ ] Other:
You Are Being Flamed Because
[ ] You posted a .99999... = 1 thread [ ] You posted a Release Date thread [ ] You posted a Patch thread [ ] You posted a PC vs Mac thread [ ] You posted a System Specifications thread [ ] You posted a ( Insert Random RPG ) vs Diablo 2 thread [ ] You posted a StarCraft vs WarCraft 3 thread [ ] You posted a big slobbery kiss on Blizzard's Ass [ ] You posted a "Where is Starcraft 2" thread [ ] You posted a EVE vs WoW thread [ ] You posted a what does the chat gem do thread [ ] You continued a long, stupid thread [ ] You committed crimes against pork by-products [ ] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message [ ] You posted a (insert name) ganked me. [ ] You posted an ( Insert Class ) is overpowered thread [ ] You haven't read the stickies [ ] You don't know which forum to post in [x] You just plain suck [ ] You posted false information [x] You posted something totally uninteresting [ ] You double posted [ ] YOU POSTED A MESSAGE ALL WRITTEN IN CAPS [ ] You posted racist crap [ ] I don't like your tone of voice [ ] You are not civilized enough to post in these forums [x] You whined and posted crap [ ] Yuo mispeled evry sengle wurd
In Punishment, You Must:
[ ] Give up your AOL Internet account [x] STFU & GTFO [x] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor [x] Actually post something relevant [ ] Read the f****** FAQ [ ] Go to your room with no supper [x] Apologize to everybody on this forum [ ] Go stand in the middle of a Highway [ ] Recite the Greek alphabet backwards [ ] Take a bath in bleach [ ] Drink out of a spittoon [ ] All of the above
In Closing, I'd Like to Say:
[x] Blow me [ ] Get a life [ ] Never post again [x] I pity your dog [ ] Go to Hell [ ] Your IQ must be 7 [ ] Take your rejection somewhere else [ ] STFU & GTFO [ ] Learn to post [x] Go jump into some industrial equipment [ ] All of the above [ ] IBTL ============================================== The preceding Forum Flame Form was constructed for use on people not worthy of actual thought or effort in being flamed. People so STUPID that a simple copy/paste and a few check marks is all that's necessary to properly relay the flamer's contempt for the flame.
You have been identified as such a person and as such, this flame was brought to you in under 10 seconds of your post being read.
one wordLOLZ!!   
~n00b of all trades~ ~~Airkio~~ ~if im posting on here its cos im in work~ |

Rina Shanu
Phoenix Knights
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Posted - 2006.11.07 08:39:00 -
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HHUUUUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're most sure a BM seller. We will still have PVP with warp to 0. Pirates will learn to gate gank more and use a scout to catch incoming targets, only lame snipers would lose a this. Warp to 0 will bring more people into 0.0 as you'll insta have all "bm" for all regions. So a big NO to YOU.
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Shadow Vice
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Posted - 2006.11.07 08:42:00 -
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personally iam all for the warp to 0km and ap to 15km option cause it solves most of the problems i think unless you include it in the game people will allways find a way to make instas in one way shape or form.
so in conclusion instas kill the eve database and the removal of them shold help server performance greatly and this puts everyone on a level playing ground imo so iam all for the warp to 0km.
incidentally i dunno how they are gonna deal with removeing instas if this does go ahead a simple script to delete any bookmark within say 25km of a celestrial object shold do the job the best.
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Glumpumpkin
House Elf Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.11.07 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Rina Shanu HHUUUUUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're most sure a BM seller. We will still have PVP with warp to 0. Pirates will learn to gate gank more and use a scout to catch incoming targets, only lame snipers would lose a this. Warp to 0 will bring more people into 0.0 as you'll insta have all "bm" for all regions. So a big NO to YOU.
as i said before your arguments, and any others you may make, are completely bogus and you're wrong.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.11.07 08:46:00 -
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Warp to 0km option gate to gate with autopilot still dumping you at 15km? PWN!! 
Auto warp to 0km when docking at a station? Not so pwn.. 
Here's hoping that feature is SISI only..
[2:02:08] Dred'Pirate Jesus > I'm Mexican you dolt.. It's pronouced "hey zeus" not "gee zus" |

murder one
Gallente CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.07 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Glumpumpkin I, for one, think that 'warp to 0' cheapens the quality of the game and that any arguments in favor of it are completely bogus. Even if I have the capability to warp to 0, I pledge that I will set my default warp distance to 15, and rely on purchased insta sets to travel through dangerous space.
/signed
Just stop trolling.
Because I said so...
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Glumpumpkin
House Elf Liberation Front
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Posted - 2006.11.07 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: murder one
Originally by: Glumpumpkin I, for one, think that 'warp to 0' cheapens the quality of the game and that any arguments in favor of it are completely bogus. Even if I have the capability to warp to 0, I pledge that I will set my default warp distance to 15, and rely on purchased insta sets to travel through dangerous space.
/signed
Just stop trolling.
Go pirate lowsec about it.
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Odd Bob
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Posted - 2006.11.07 09:05:00 -
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Not signed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wanna be stuck in Empire for the rest of my Eve sub cos im not sad enough to manufacture 100s of bookmarks, its going to be a major blow to pvp in Eve that 2-3 year old players wont be able to one shot noob corps members as they travel out of empire in to low sec areas in search of more content to their gaming experience.
This is the final blow to eve! Why on earth should pirates have to use scanners and actively hunt down their prey in belts and regions? Are CCCP retarded :(
Alliance pvp corps, why should that have to patrol their terrority now to search for intruders instead of being able to sit on a warp gate for many mind numbing hours before utilising their pvp skills
Eves most skilled and intelligent pvpers are gate camps, this is such a tragedy that will open low sec and 0.0 up to the many brave adventurers /cry!
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.07 09:10:00 -
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I tried doing EVE without instas. I did so for quite a long while, running chokepoints into 0.0 in my badger MK II, in a 'dodging camps' fit.
Running a few starbase towers meant a lot of fuel in and out. It worked quite well, and the game play wasn't so bad. However then I saw other people in fully expanded iteron 5s, making 1 trip to my 5. I saw 'hostiles' insta-ing past me to get to the gate so they'd catch me on the other side in their battleship, and then call me a newb (although mostly I did get away from them, so maybe that was why).
And so I *****ed, and made a set of instas. I would _quite happily_ delete every single insta, and warp to 15km every time, with only a minor whinge about how that's going to make my frieghter a pain to get through 0.0.
But only if we're talking level playing field. Only if I don't have to dodge the same battleship every jump of my route because he's 'got instas' and I don't.
There's a lot of debate about instas both ways. Personally I think the only reason not to remove them entirely is that so many have become dependant on this crutch that they will cry loudly if it is removed.
They will increase the size of the EVE universe. This is a good thing. I like feeling like Jita is a long way away. I think there's plenty of scope for market trading, but only if not 'everyone' is hauling things 5-10 jumps to a hub.
The other thing it will increase is danger level for slower ships moving through low sec/0.0. I don't see a problem here either. I think there _should_ be a reason to use cruisers, frigates etc. over battleships. IMO a battleship and even a BC should be big, slow and heavy, with a lot of firepower. As it is, a BS might as well be as fast as a 'ceptor.
Don't forget, whilst yes, it does make getting someone who's running a blockade easier, it also makes setting up that blockade much harder. Moving your BS 10 jumps to set up the gate camp won't be a trivial matter, and moving on once the camp gets 'busted' will also be harder. So you'll quite naturally have smaller camps, with smaller ships.
I don't think you'll ever lose the gate camps. My only real objection to them is if you run into one with 40 ships, there's pretty much nothing you can do. Now if there's one where there's only 3 or 4 cruisers, then you _do_ have a chance to run or fight, especially if you arrive in a battleship.
This would be a major gameplay change, I would agree. I know lots of people who won't go anywhere without instas. But I think it would be a _good_ change to gameplay, where warp to 0 would just serve to further dumb down EVE.
And for the record, I am not a pirate, nor gate camper. I've spent more time in a hauler than I have a battleship. I think there should be a reason to go for fast mobile ships, over insta-ing heavy hitters, and I think there should be a reason to use smaller faster industrials rather than slower bigger ones.
Seriously, how often do you see Sigils? They're tier 1, like the bestower, and they're fast, but they have less cargo. They're almost never used, because everyone's either AFK or insta-ing.
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AshrakTheWhite
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2006.11.07 09:14:00 -
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anyone else think this is an alt of some guy whos selling instas? :p
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