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Blind Man
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.11.08 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: Blind Man on 08/11/2006 16:26:33 /not signed
eve is too laggy and I couldn't care less what it takes to fix it anymore.
also I'm always reluctant to move places because you have to have the instas, I'm tired of throwing gang lead around to whoever has instas not being able to be gang leader in certain situations (especially once command ships have to be lead for gang mods to work)
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Tellok
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Posted - 2006.11.08 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Glumpumpkin I, for one, think that 'warp to 0' cheapens the quality of the game and that any arguments in favor of it are completely bogus. Even if I have the capability to warp to 0, I pledge that I will set my default warp distance to 15, and rely on purchased insta sets to travel through dangerous space.
/signed
PPPFFFFTTTTTTTTTT wake up and see what warp to 0 is going to bring to the game
more players entering 0.0 more pvp for everyone more players entering lowsec whats not to like. only peeps who are gonna lose out here are lame sniper pirates thats all, with the stab nerf belt pirates are gonna have the fun. and pvp may actualy come alive again post on your main it may give yout words a bit of tread!!!!
btw this is my main :P
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Kovacs Caprios
Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.08 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: Glumpumpkin I, for one, think that 'warp to 0' cheapens the quality of the game and that any arguments in favor of it are completely bogus. Even if I have the capability to warp to 0, I pledge that I will set my default warp distance to 15, and rely on purchased insta sets to travel through dangerous space.
/signed
I like the humour, thansk for making me smile..
Tell me guys you did get the humpur, or I will dispair....
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Raste
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.08 16:33:00 -
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I'm going to kick this pledge up a notch and only warpin at 20km while using a dialup connection.
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Mtthias Clemi
Gallente Momentum.
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Posted - 2006.11.08 16:36:00 -
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warp to 0 doesent really do anything apart from give everyone bms basically... since when you autopilot it takes you to 15 as usual, as far as i know. And almost everyone has bms anyway... whats the problem?
My sig was nerfed.. im not happy -Mtt I hate mods |

Blind Man
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.11.08 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Raste I'm going to kick this pledge up a notch and only warpin at 20km while using a dialup connection.
ILL RAISE YOU TO 30!
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Twilight Moon
Minmatar Malicious Intentions
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Posted - 2006.11.08 16:51:00 -
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As someone who has a silly amount of instas (ie: the map features large areas green ) I'll happily delete the vast majority of my BM's if a Warp to 0km option is implemented.
I've been spoilt with them, and to be quite honest, no, I'd rather not have to slowboat it to every **** gate.
....it's great hi-jacking a meme isn't it?
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Taram Caldar
Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.11.08 16:53:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 08/11/2006 16:53:27 Ok this is way off topic but I just can't resist:
Originally by: Galimiy Portret
Well, yes, WoW is ebil and should not be even mentioned without recieving immidiate divine retribution, but... It did introduce some things which is really good and should be adapted to the general MMO perception.
Nope, sorry... wow didn't introduce a single new concept to MMORPG's. Not 1. Even the developers will tell you that.
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THose things are:
* Customizable UI. A godsend from heaven. You are no longer stuck with the original UI which is NEVER going to be optimal for ALL of the player base. I *really* hope this concept gets general acceptance to the *standard* MMO set of features.
WRONG: EQ1 had a customizable UI. So did many other MMORPG's LONG before WoW came along.
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* Reduced level grind. Well, the truth is that I never got a max lvl char in any other MMO I've played. Why? Well, it was boring as hell to run 1000 same looking missions or kill 100000 same looking mobs to get to max level and still having to do the same amount of work to get a decent equipement. Note that EvE does not have those flaws.
Wrong again. Numerous MMO's before WoW have had reduced level grinds over their predecessors. SWG had an even shorter trip to finished template than WoW's route to '60' was. SWG is 2-3 yrs old than WoW. PlanetSide has a very short route to 20 (max level at the time) than WoW currently does. CoH - Shorter trip to max level... Etc.
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* Lack of micromanaging for an average player.
Err... what? This statement doesn't even make sense.
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* It was fun the first half year. Yes, I admit it, I have never had so much fun in any MMO as in WoW. It died after a year tho. :)
Well, a bit offtopic, lol. :)
That one is personal opinion, not a feature :)
Like I said... never ever ever mention WoW when talking about features. Every single feature in WoW is taken from another MMORPG. Even their PvP system isn't original or unique. what wow DID is take existing ideas and simplify them. That's *all* it did. Which is why most veteran MMORPG players find WoW to be fairly watered down and boring.
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Magistrate Tsuris
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Posted - 2006.11.08 17:06:00 -
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sorry to be a n00b, but has this been confirmed by CCP that they are implementing a "Warp to 0", or is this just speculation?
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Raste
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.08 17:12:00 -
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"CoH - Shorter trip to max level... Etc. "
Then they've seriously lessened the CoH grind or you were doing something wrong in WoW.
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Raste
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.11.08 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Magistrate Tsuris sorry to be a n00b, but has this been confirmed by CCP that they are implementing a "Warp to 0", or is this just speculation?
Speculation based on the fact that its on test server now. (also the devs have stated that instas will be going away at some point, so theres less reason to believe its just a trial run on test)
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Magistrate Tsuris
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Posted - 2006.11.08 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Raste
Originally by: Magistrate Tsuris sorry to be a n00b, but has this been confirmed by CCP that they are implementing a "Warp to 0", or is this just speculation?
Speculation based on the fact that its on test server now. (also the devs have stated that instas will be going away at some point, so theres less reason to believe its just a trial run on test)
wow, great - are there any official threads or blogs on this? i really like this idea, but was hoping it wouldn't be a 'vanilla' solution, that it might involve skills or something other than just warping in on top of the gate.
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Pherusa Plumosa
Minmatar Freedom for All
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Posted - 2006.11.08 22:06:00 -
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I just play Eve for 2 Month, but does "warp to 0km" mean i can now fly afk through 0.0 secs, don't have to be afraid of those gatecampers and can fly my iteron full of slaves, drugs and exotic dancers through New Eden? That's "un-thrilling" :(
And about "everyone has bookmarks": I don't think, that every player has bookmarks from every gate in every system. If you "live" in one region, you have of course instas from every gate you needed or may need in future, but not from systems that are 30 jumps away.
I don't like the idea of warping to 0km.
Greets, Pherusa
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Sol Flare
Caldari The White Star Consortium
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Posted - 2006.11.08 23:15:00 -
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Edited by: Sol Flare on 08/11/2006 23:16:41 I would like to amend the first post to state: "I pledge to use MWDs to get from station to gate, gate to gate, belt to belt, and not use warp to move any distance in EvE. WHO'S WITH ME???"
Ok... I'm just playing here... but really, if the the option is there, use it to its full advantage. There is no reason not to use it. Plus think of all the processing power we get back!
And to address the previous quote about being about to autopilot through 0.0 in it. No... I severaly doubt they will have AP able to warp to 0. And 0.0 bubbles will now become a necessity for any gate camp.
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Scoundrelus
Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.11.08 23:29:00 -
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I'm truly amazed that there is one thread about this where most everyone says "No to warp to 0km!" and another thread about the exact same thing where everyone says "Yes to warp to 0km!".
It's like herd mentality, everyone follows the 2nd poster. =============================================== We are Watching You. |

Jason Kildaro
Minmatar Synergy Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.08 23:54:00 -
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I liked warp to 15. Not because I engage in gate piracy and stuff like that. But because it made ships different. I took a frigate to bust through camps. I took a Battleship to break them. I looked for workarounds when it came to bigger cargo runs. I used tech2 industrials. Good bye to all of that now! The game has been dumbed down because traders could not make a concession.
What concession?
CCP gave you these awesome tech 2 ships to bust through the camps. Those will never be used now. Were gate campers lame? Maybe, but what is really going to be lame is the death of trading. Some of you guys don't realize what your whining did. Am I going to pay you to trade anything? Am I going to pay you anything for a courrier mission? Nope, my newbies can do that now. Your cargo space ain't worth squat. Do you really think your trade runs are going to be as profitable? Much more people are going to find them now.
The only thing we can hope is that this will allow people to low sec space. I think it will. I hope it will. Again, not becuase I am a pirate but because I would like to see markets expand. I would like to see alternate profeesions come out of the game. As it stands we are taking professions out. If warp to zero is implemented, what happens to drug smugglers, mercs, anti pirate hunters, and frieghter pilots?
I may be Chicken Little and claiming the sky is falling but I think that the new option will change things drasticlly in the markets and not for the better.
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Captain Ruin
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Posted - 2006.11.09 01:14:00 -
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Edited by: Captain Ruin on 09/11/2006 01:15:13 I think that adjusting the actual warp speed of ships to a level which makes travel an issue, AND adding a Warp to 0 option, is the best solution I've heard so far.
Cut everything's warp-speed to at least half it's current, and then adjust the speed up or down form there, depending on the ships mass.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.11.09 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Galimiy Portret
Originally by: Taram Caldar
Originally by: Galimiy Portret /totally *NOT* signed!
I, personally, is totally fed up with having to copy 5 or more regional BM sets to all *three* of my characters to be able to participate in pvp! I hate when it comes to micromanaging in a MMORPG! I *hate* micromanaging, it ruins every MMO I have played. Say YES to "Warp to 0"!
Well, one MMORPG being an exception. WoW didn't have micromanaging in my experience.
Heathen! Never ever ever use WoW as an example of anything good. It's just WRONG :)
Well, yes, WoW is ebil and should not be even mentioned without recieving immidiate divine retribution, but... It did introduce some things which is really good and should be adapted to the general MMO perception. THose things are:
* Customizable UI. A godsend from heaven. You are no longer stuck with the original UI which is NEVER going to be optimal for ALL of the player base. I *really* hope this concept gets general acceptance to the *standard* MMO set of features.
* Reduced level grind. Well, the truth is that I never got a max lvl char in any other MMO I've played. Why? Well, it was boring as hell to run 1000 same looking missions or kill 100000 same looking mobs to get to max level and still having to do the same amount of work to get a decent equipement. Note that EvE does not have those flaws.
* Lack of micromanaging for an average player.
* It was fun the first half year. Yes, I admit it, I have never had so much fun in any MMO as in WoW. It died after a year tho. :)
Well, a bit offtopic, lol. :)
ok but apart from all that what did wow ever do for us ?   
I want to die quietly in my sleep just like my dear old grandma, and not screaming in terror like her passengers!! |

Dagda Dia
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Posted - 2006.11.09 02:03:00 -
[109]
   It is a game mechainc tool. Live with!!
/NOT SIGNED
you wanted instas nefered, CCP did that. You wanted lag caused by copying BMs stopped, CCP did that. Those Insta's will soon be worthless.
But to be fair to the 60% of players that wanted instas they did the "warp to 0".
Go gate camp in 0.0 and learn to live with the game as CCP dicates, just like us solo players do.
Move along nothing to see here, yes I am a ALT Just portecting my main.
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Rual Storge
Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.11.09 02:08:00 -
[110]
some people fear change
Rual Storge, Battlestars |
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Dagda Dia
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Posted - 2006.11.09 02:15:00 -
[111]
   It is a game mechainc tool. Live with!!
/NOT SIGNED
you wanted instas nefered, CCP did that. You wanted lag caused by copying BMs stopped, CCP did that. Those Insta's will soon be worthless.
But to be fair to the 60% of players that wanted instas they did the "warp to 0".
learn to live with the game as CCP dicates, just like us solo players do.
Move along nothing to see here, yes I am a ALT Just portecting my main.
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Taedrin
Gallente Mercatoris Technologies
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Posted - 2006.11.09 03:36:00 -
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Ha, you mortals don't realise what this is really about, do you?
1) Add warp-to-0km 2) Wait as players delete their own instas 3) Remove warp-to-0km 4) ????? 5) profit
Or at least that's what I would do if I were CCP, but then again I'm a bastard
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Rekindle
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Posted - 2006.11.09 03:43:00 -
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/not signed -
Buying regional book marks is simple enough. Its not worth the server load and its not worth being used as a cheap tactic in large battles. -------------------------------------------
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Quin Tal
Fort Knox Inc Expeto Libertas Foedus
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Posted - 2006.11.09 04:08:00 -
[114]
If I could spend 30D training a skill to give me 0km all the time, AKA all of Eve instas, I'd do it.
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Christina Vallentine
Caldari Tau Ceti Global Production Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.09 06:12:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Jason Kildaro I liked warp to 15. Not because I engage in gate piracy and stuff like that. But because it made ships different. I took a frigate to bust through camps. I took a Battleship to break them. I looked for workarounds when it came to bigger cargo runs. I used tech2 industrials. Good bye to all of that now! The game has been dumbed down because traders could not make a concession.
What concession?
CCP gave you these awesome tech 2 ships to bust through the camps. Those will never be used now. Were gate campers lame? Maybe, but what is really going to be lame is the death of trading. Some of you guys don't realize what your whining did. Am I going to pay you to trade anything? Am I going to pay you anything for a courrier mission? Nope, my newbies can do that now. Your cargo space ain't worth squat. Do you really think your trade runs are going to be as profitable? Much more people are going to find them now.
The only thing we can hope is that this will allow people to low sec space. I think it will. I hope it will. Again, not becuase I am a pirate but because I would like to see markets expand. I would like to see alternate profeesions come out of the game. As it stands we are taking professions out. If warp to zero is implemented, what happens to drug smugglers, mercs, anti pirate hunters, and frieghter pilots?
I may be Chicken Little and claiming the sky is falling but I think that the new option will change things drasticlly in the markets and not for the better.
It's not that I don't see what you mean. But realistically... You are telling me you don't use instas in 0.0? Cause if you do. Then your not experiencing all of these delightful things you speak of. And there is no difference between an insta and a 0km warp. It is the same.. except less lag for all with the 0km option.
Warp to 15 didnt happen at gates in 0.0 anyway. And if it did people just called that person who warped in at 15 a moron and "he should have known better, poor him."
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Kaeten
Hybrid Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.11.09 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus Warp to 0km option gate to gate with autopilot still dumping you at 15km? PWN!! 
Auto warp to 0km when docking at a station? Not so pwn.. 
Here's hoping that feature is SISI only..
would work best imo
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Dark Stryker
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:03:00 -
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I don't think warp to 0 is so bad idea, its just removes need for billion instas and might save newbies few ship losses. -----------------------------------------------
- Eve Games - Weekly isk prices for the winner.
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:18:00 -
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I just hate it how those who favor warp to 0 are heavy industrialists who want to have insta jumps for their freightors, alliances that think it will allow the faster deployment of fleets, and lazy people who somehow feel that warp to 0 will allow them to bypass a gatecamp. Those who are against it want more pvp, more risk, more regionality and more competition in the game. basically, they want the game stay true to the 15km warp system it was at. This will give new meaning to the blockade runners, the MWDed out Impels and Prowlers and such. . .the advantage of using an inti or a frig over a BC or battleship is the abuility to move quicky - with warp to 0 - all this changes, and I don't like the idea.
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Del369
Caldari Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation
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Posted - 2006.11.10 11:42:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky I just hate it how those who favor warp to 0 are heavy industrialists who want to have insta jumps for their freightors, alliances that think it will allow the faster deployment of fleets, and lazy people who somehow feel that warp to 0 will allow them to bypass a gatecamp. Those who are against it want more pvp, more risk, more regionality and more competition in the game. basically, they want the game stay true to the 15km warp system it was at. This will give new meaning to the blockade runners, the MWDed out Impels and Prowlers and such. . .the advantage of using an inti or a frig over a BC or battleship is the abuility to move quicky - with warp to 0 - all this changes, and I don't like the idea.
crap they want to be able to cheap gank noob haulers because they are to lazy or to socially maladjusted to engage in team work to really pvp. oh yea /me 75% 0.0, 10% lvl 4 missions in empire, 15% industrial, and warp to 0 figuratively rocks 
I want to die quietly in my sleep just like my dear old grandma, and not screaming in terror like her passengers!! |

Athena Starfire
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.10 12:56:00 -
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Edited by: Athena Starfire on 10/11/2006 12:59:44 3 thumbs up * FOR * WARP-TO-ZERO...
THANK YOU CCP, FOR THIS GREAT ADDITION FOR THE PEACEFUL PLAYER...
-- Proud Winner of the "Carebear Of The Year" Award..
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