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Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.12 22:39:00 - [31] I suppose the main job of FW, then (at least to start) is just as a door for unaffiliated noobs / solo players to get in on some good team PvP. Shame it's not getting the full treatment for a while, though. -----------------------------------------------
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.12 22:53:00 - [32] Originally by: Gindar so as a gallente with 9.0 standings with federation navy and 4.5 with gallente federation, i still won't be able to attack caldari players who have stayed in a caldari npc corp for over a year? here i was hoping it would be the solution against macro miners friends you have no idea! in macro intel we held hands and praised the lord (our ccp) every night asking for factional warfare to solve this npc corp dilemna! 1. NPC (starter corps) will never be part of faction warfare for logical reasons of not allowing people free griefing of the new players. 2. NPC (default corps) will never be part of faction warfare since there are plenty of legitimate players who have no interest in fighting for, eg., the Caldari State. Just as there are plenty of Caldari people and corporations who get along just dandy with Gallente and vice versa. 3. Macro miners have no standing, they mine. Reaping the empire's riches without giving anything back gives you not standing. - EVE is sick.
Tovarishch Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.12 22:54:00 - [33] Faction Warfare being limited to those willing to drop from their respective corps/alliances in order to join an NPC corp is a tremendous letdown. This will ultimately hurt small corps who wind up dissolving because members leave to go have more fun elsewhere. It may even hurt larger corps as players might spend more time on FW enabled alts... instead of hanging out with their 'real' corps. This doesn't seem like a major technical hurdle to overcome. Since 'corporation' and 'alliance' affiliations already exist... why not create 'racial affiliation' statistics for each player? This particular statistic for each player can be activated once they talk to an NPC corp agent in charge of recruitment. All life is sacred... until the client says otherwise.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.12 22:59:00 - [34] Originally by: Patch86 I suppose the main job of FW, then (at least to start) is just as a door for unaffiliated noobs / solo players to get in on some good team PvP. Shame it's not getting the full treatment for a while, though. There's going to be PvP, alright, but I doubt they'll get much team along with it. I can already see how to exploit the system, for the ones that will be successful are the players whom are already a team. A player corporation is split, and they join a faction. They use teamspeak, mutual investments still managed by the original corporation, and with team effort win not for the faction but for themselves. In the process they get to kill a lot of people without a clue, so it's pretty fun, too. It's sad to say, but the soloplayers are a step down on the organisational ladder, and for those well established above them it is easy to step down if challenges prove fun and exclusive on the lower levels. I believe that faction warfare might be better used as a means of communicating contact between equal minded people, which would require, of course, that the established be allowed to compete with and against those whom are not. What I mean is, allow them to prove their worth. - EVE is sick.
Gerome Doutrande 4S Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.12 23:03:00 - [35] Edited by: Gerome Doutrande on 12/11/2006 23:04:21 Originally by: Galk ... which turns many away from it (not everybody likes being immersed in faccist directorate) I'm taking the liberty of "increasing your immersion through a petition" for that. Enjoy.
Gigi Barbagrigia Latent Appliance Fetishists	Posted - 2006.11.12 23:15:00 - [36] Small start is good. Was there any talk about limiting individual factions to only use their tech? Fleet of Gal Rokhs will look silly.
Endlos Null Angel Deep Corporation	Posted - 2006.11.12 23:18:00 - [37] http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/gameId/14/setView/features/loadFeature/960/MagnusBergssonCMO.html Originally by: MMORPG.com Speaking of factional warfare, What effect do you see it having on the day to day life of those not directly involved? To what extent will the borders fluctuate? Originally by: Magnus Bergsson That's all to early to determine, we need considerable play testing until we finally decide to what extent the soldiers fighting for their empires will have. On the other hand it should also be considered that we want Factional Warfare to be an entry into PvP combat hopefully sparking interaction which leads to these warriors to crate their own Alliances.
Jake Devlin	Posted - 2006.11.12 23:21:00 - [38] is not the simplest way to let player corps in on FW be to allow the corps to gain standing with the npc corps which, when high enough, lets them shoot that corps enimies and be shot by those same enimies.... i.e set up a way in which player corps can ally themselves to the npc corps. perhaps have it that when you lose standing with the enemy of one of the corps you also gain standing with that corp. hence keeping it pvp. problem solved
Silver Sarena Caldari Coreward Pan-Galactic	Posted - 2006.11.12 23:33:00 - [39] I remember way back when it was FIRST being talked about, FW was being touted as LONG OVERDUE attention being given to the people in the game that didn't do much (or any) PvPing. You know, the carebears that BUILD all of the weapons and ships all the bloodthirsty PvPers fight with, but who also like to fight NPCs. It was being ADVERTISED, at least at first, as a MASSIVE increase in content that was NOT PvP. Now, we get down to implimentation and HERE WE GO AGAIN: CCP depending on its own PLAYERS to make the game fun rather than providing entertaining content like what we pay them for. Decieved AGAIN. CCP cheaps out AGAIN. Empire wars are some of the WORST examples of gankfests in the entire game. Why would someone want to WILLINGLY leave themselves open for that? Think about it. If you sign up for this FW stuff, there is NO WHERE IN THE GAME THAT YOU CAN GO WHERE IT WILL BE SAFE. NO WHERE. You can be shot and downed in ANY system in the game if you sign on for this. I mean, that is all that they are trying to do here: Give the real bloodthirsty SOBs that live in deep space and exist for not other purpose than to GRIEF other players a reason to come back into empire and prey on the players there. Make no mistake, that is exactly what is going to happen. I am VERY disappointed in how this is being implemented CCP. For GOD'S sake get OFF THE PvP WAGON!!! Start adding some content for your customers that like to COOPERATE with other people in some other endeavor BESIDES killing other players!! How about more and diversified missions to the existing system?!? It has been stated in more than one dev blog that the mission system was upgraded so that adding new missions would be easier. But, I haven't seen a new one yet. Oh, what the hell am I doing "screaming" at a brick wall? No one's listening. It's not like the devs care what non-PvP players do of think anyway.... they do what they please, when they please, and how they please. And it is that attitude that is going to end Eve. Again, very disappointed devs!! Start adding some content that doesn't involve PvP PLEASE!!!!! * *
Dust Angel True Core	Posted - 2006.11.12 23:36:00 - [40] Originally by: Silver Sarena I Again, very disappointed devs!! Start adding some content that doesn't involve PvP PLEASE!!!!! adding 8 ships + the various capitol ships added each patch. Thats a lot more content thats "non" pvp mirel yirrin > "DU HAST VERBROKEN DAS FORUMERN RULEN! DU SWINE!"

Galk Gallente Autumn Tactics	Posted - 2006.11.12 23:48:00 - [41] Edited by: Galk on 12/11/2006 23:57:27 Edited by: Galk on 12/11/2006 23:51:52 Originally by: Gerome Doutrande Edited by: Gerome Doutrande on 12/11/2006 23:04:21 Originally by: Galk ... which turns many away from it (not everybody likes being immersed in faccist directorate) I'm taking the liberty of "increasing your immersion through a petition" for that. Enjoy. Dear Mr Doutrande. I based my comments on this posting: Linkage More , this reply on the 2nd page: Originally by: Labratory Rat "I used to be in an alliance that tried to dictate how players spend their game time. Weekends must been spent either mining for the alliance or as part of an alliance fleet. It was forbidden to spend weekends ratting or mining for yourself. You were allowed to do these during the week, unless there was some sort of alliance op on, which were most evenings when we were at war. If there was an alliance op going on and you couldn't take part (often it would take several hours commitment) the alliance leaders would forbid you from logging on. (A webpage was set up so fellow corp mates can report those who log on and don't take part in sanctioned activities.) While I understand the importance of members contributing to an alliance and not being leeches, this all meant that there was no benefit to being in the alliance, you couldn't mine or rat to make isk. There was no real PvP as alliance ops consisted of spending several hours sitting at gates while the rest of the alliance removes POSes or takes over stations, usually for someone elses alliances. The final straw was when the leadership set up a webpage demanding that members justify their place in the corp by getting 5 vouches from other members that you should be allowed to stay in the corp. While I was easily vouched for, I did see the ridiculousness of the situation. I'd spend months doing nothing but serve the alliance, giving up my weekends to be bored out of my mind mining or spend countless hours sitting at gates. And I saw no benefit for myself, then to have the leaders demand why members should deserve to be continued to be treated like this. So now I don't bother with alliances at all. This all happened in the second alliance I was a member off. The first one was co-run by a headcase that tried to forbid people from going back to empire. He threatened to kick a friend of mine when he saw him in Jita, claiming that he must be a spy for the allianceÆs enemies. You are ofcourse free to petition as you wish, but i feel my comment intirely justified when relating it to that of the above....inperticular the bold highlighted part.. where my opinion is bought in to a sad reality. I would not have made such a statement without evidence of it. ______
Arderich Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen	Posted - 2006.11.13 00:05:00 - [42] Originally by: Celestal I would think that only corps/alliances made up of a single factions pilots should be able to join that factions fighting force . Having corps/alliances with multi faction pilots joining in one factions fighting forces makes a mockery of the term `factional warfare` . I reserve my God given right to shoot any Minmatar or Gallente I see, no matter if he is a member of the 'Amarr/Khanid Fleet Expeditionary Force' or not. I would rather fight against Amarr before I will sit idle by and watch this inferior beings infiltrate amarrian forces.
Lorette Gallente Grandma's WIth Guns	Posted - 2006.11.13 00:26:00 - [43] I dont see the problem, if you want to fight and gain respect for your chosen race/military you should have to apply and be accepted into the military wing. Corps already fight for themselves in 0.0, this is basically empire wars. I have no problems with having to leave a guild and say join the Federation Navy, its excellent for people who want to roleplay aswell. Id have to say its turning out just as i thought it would...from day 5 ive always longed to join the FN
Parallax Error Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 00:39:00 - [44] ::sigh:: Not really what I was hoping for. Maggot, next round is in Magiko lets go old school?
Shir'ia'ri Amarr Royal Amarr Institute	Posted - 2006.11.13 00:45:00 - [45] Originally by: Hakera 4. You will get option to give lp's to other players to allow groups to do missions and share the reward (not sure what was said on standings) And so the selling of LP begins....
Maggot Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.11.13 00:48:00 - [46] Originally by: Parallax Error ::sigh:: Not really what I was hoping for. Maggot, next round is in Magiko lets go old school? See you there ;) Will be sad that if to follow your roleplay principles you will be forced to provide security services for a bunch of mission runners.
Parallax Error Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 01:05:00 - [47] Originally by: Maggot See you there ;) Will be sad that if to follow your roleplay principles you will be forced to provide security services for a bunch of mission runners. I have this horrible picture forming in my head...... And this newsflash just in! The first major battle of the new conflict was decided in Derelik today as two mighty fleets from the Amarr Empire and Minmatar Republic clashed in a struggle of titanic proportions. First reports are sketchy, but it was believed that at least 45 pilots fresh out of academy were involved and that the current death toll stands at 17 Impairors and 23 Reapers. Survivors were heard to comment "omgrofl ur n00b, civ guns pwn joo no ammo needed" and "no wai! nerf amarr Impairor iz 2 ubah." The head of the Theology Council was heard to say "Oh for the love of god, why didn't we send in the NPC's? At least they can't l33t speak in local."
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.13 10:00:00 - [48] Changing track slightly, whilst I'm pleased that we'll be getting a new Emperor through a big event, I'm more than slightly disappointed that we're going to have to wait up to thirteen months for anything to happen. And that's before we take into account CCP's track record of doing things on schedule. Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Aodha Khan Minmatar The Necroborg The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2006.11.13 10:18:00 - [49] Having to change corporations to fight in faction warfare is really dissapointing. I had thought at the very least corporations with good standing towards a faction could register their factional loyalty and therefore become part of factional warfare. So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
Marine HK4861 Caldari Seoltachd	Posted - 2006.11.13 10:30:00 - [50] Originally by: Hakera 1. Initiatally for players (not corps or alliances) For all those people complaining about the let down of factional warfare I've bolded and highlighted the appropriate text. I'm sure corps and alliances will be allowed to join in the factional warfare system, but until CCP irons out the (inevitable) bugs they've restricted it. After all, how can the 150-odd people in Singularity even hope to even resemble the load of a several thousand people on Tranquility using the Factional Warfare system? Or would you prefer CCP jump in blind and make a complete hash of it instead?

Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.13 10:46:00 - [51] Originally by: Missy Mai'la On the test server you cant even scan npcs with the scanner, belt or complex, none show up on scanner. I think that combined with random respawning complexes is a bad thing, as you might run the complex to find no overseers spawned. This will result in farmers camping inside the complex 24/7. What do you mean "Result In" they are out there right now. F4T4L is Recruiting!
Elsebeth Rhiannon Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:10:00 - [52] Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 13/11/2006 12:10:54 Quote: 1. Initiatally for players (not corps or alliances) who can join an npc corp of one of the four empires providing they have appropiate standing such as I could join the Republic Fleet Expeditionary Force which will be just like starter corps, you dont have hangers or corp wallets for eg. 2. Each corp will be at war with one of the others so you can attack members of your enemy anywhere You gotta be kidding me. All RP corps who have built their RP around the backstory are supposed to just either drop their factional RP (which would force them to join the fight) or join a CCP corp (which is the only way to join it) - giving up all their corp hangars, production procedures, corp reputation, etc they have established? At least make it an alliance. This is stupid.
Radioactive Babe	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:59:00 - [53] LOL at all the 'omg i cant go to jita and kill everyone' types .. I think its cool, allows people who dont like low sec/0.0 style pvp to have fun and keeps n00bs safe .. CCP just need to make sure that they dont end up with enormous sucky fleet battles in empire (BECAUSE FLEET BATTLES SUCK), keep the fights small and spread out and everyone enjoys them did I mention that fleet battles suck
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:26:00 - [54] Of course a really really really REALLY easy fix for this would be to simply make a FW Alliance, aswell as a FW Corp (in said alliance). That'd allow whole corps to join the FW team, without disbanding. Of course that still doeesn't let alliances in, but thats a fix that desrerves more attention. -----------------------------------------------
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:29:00 - [55] Edited by: Alex Harumichi on 13/11/2006 13:31:56 Originally by: Hakera Faction Warfare 1. Initiatally for players (not corps or alliances) who can join an npc corp of one of the four empires providing they have appropiate standing such as I could join the Republic Fleet Expeditionary Force which will be just like starter corps, you dont have hangers or corp wallets for eg. 2. Each corp will be at war with one of the others so you can attack members of your enemy anywhere Ok, this is more a bad joke than anything else. So you mean that RP corporations like Gradient (or PIE, or) who have actively roleplayed pro-Republic (or pro-Empire) stances for years with very limited support from CCP, would suddenly need to disband and join an NPC corp in order to actually support their faction? Whose great idea was this? How are we supposed to RP-justify standing by while NPC corporations go to war around us? This is ridiculous. There needs to be a way for player corps to align with one of the factions. And/or we need a way to wardec NPC corps involved with this. Talking about "war in EVE" while forcing 90% of the player base to stand idle and watch should never have even gotten to the idea stage. This is what we get for trying to actually support roleplay in the game? ...and don't talk to me about "this is only the first stage". If it goes live for even one day, it will turn all RP corps into jokes. Do you really want us all to disband and go to 0.0 and go "pew pew" with the other alliances, since apparently the game storyline isn't something that's worth making even slightly playable in the game itself. Apparently "factional warfare" means "kick RP corps in the teeth and laugh". I'm used to CCP not supporting roleplay much, but for them to actively harass it is crap. **** this.
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:36:00 - [56] Originally by: Patch86 Of course a really really really REALLY easy fix for this would be to simply make a FW Alliance, aswell as a FW Corp (in said alliance). That'd allow whole corps to join the FW team, without disbanding. Yeah, that would solve the most glaring problems with this, agreed. If Amarr and Minmatar go to war and Gradient & PIE (and others) are forced to stand by and just post declarations on the forums, something is seriously wrong. It would be like having an "alliance pvp tournament", and then forbidding alliances to join. I'm sure that would go over really well...
Alex Harumichi Gallente Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:39:00 - [57] Originally by: Radioactive Babe LOL at all the 'omg i cant go to jita and kill everyone' types .. I think its cool, allows people who dont like low sec/0.0 style pvp to have fun and keeps n00bs safe You're in for a rude awakening. The moment this goes live, hordes of pvp:ers will join the NPC corps and you will get people ganking noobs in Jita (and everywhere else). Guaranteed. There is no way to have a war situation like this and "keep n00bs safe". If they want to join in, they become targets for everyone. It's their choice.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:44:00 - [58] Oh look ! CCP scaled down Factional Warfare ? They will now implement just the dressed down version of the thing they've been using as the main excuse of not doing alot of stuff or for leaving alot of issues to fester away in the last year ? Gosh, how unexpected. Well, that takes care of one part of the predictable reality of the "Path to Kali". The other one was about the actual patch schedule versus the announced intended patch schedule. I'm wet from anticipation as to how that one turns out Still CCP doesn't learn. Less talk about what you plan to do please, if you are going to continue not actually doing any of it. (in all fairness the contract system looks like a winner tho. The rest looks between "ok" and "rather dissapointing" so far) Old blog
Parallax Error Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 15:27:00 - [59] Actually, Rod touched on a good point there. If Kali 2 is all about Factional Warfare yet its being cut down to work, what is Kali 2 about now? There seems to be new DX9 Graphics involved, will the much vaunted (but ominously silent in the actual plans department) upgraded sovereignty, upgradeable outposts and the rest of the POS style improvements come out? I suppose my main question is, if Factional Warfare in Kali 2 is just going to be 4 NPC run corps with a declared CONCORD war. What else is there to look forward to for Kali 2 and 3 apart from eye candy?
Ghitza Backup Squad	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:52:00 - [60] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Rodj Blake Oh well, looks like I won't be able to take part in the one thing in Kali that I was looking forward to then. Agreed, it's the single most dissappointing bit of news to come out recently, I had really high hopes for factional warfare. Agreed too. The sky is falling :( I have had so big hopes for factional warfare and it seems like another junk stuff :(



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