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Vedz
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:32:00 -
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I've been playing for about 2 months now and I still can't find a decent way to make ISK. I don't even want to go near below 0.5 sec until I have a way to quickly replace any destroyed ships resulting from pirates, gate-campers, etc. So, here is what I have tried so far. Please give some advice!
Mining-- I managed to get an Osprey with 3 Miner II's. I calculated my profit and it's about 1 million ISK per hour mining Scordite.
Hauling-- Once in awhile there would be a worth-while trade route and I could make 400-700k per trip, which usually takes me 20 minutes in a Badger.
That's it. I don't know what else to try. :(
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GrumpyCat
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Vedz
I've been playing for about 2 months now and I still can't find a decent way to make ISK. I don't even want to go near below 0.5 sec until I have a way to quickly replace any destroyed ships resulting from pirates, gate-campers, etc. So, here is what I have tried so far. Please give some advice!
Mining-- I managed to get an Osprey with 3 Miner II's. I calculated my profit and it's about 1 million ISK per hour mining Scordite.
Hauling-- Once in awhile there would be a worth-while trade route and I could make 400-700k per trip, which usually takes me 20 minutes in a Badger.
That's it. I don't know what else to try. :(
Join an 0.00 corp, iskies grows on roids out there.
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Marine HK4861
Caldari
Seoltachd
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:37:00 -
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Mission running is a good idea, plus it helps raise your standings.
Good corp standings will reduce refining tax and broker fees.
As for trading, you need to do your homework - I'm lucky and found a route which nets me 13 mil off a 9 mil investment for about 5 minutes work. 
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Imniskari
Minmatar
Queens of the Stone Age
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:39:00 -
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Combat missions? Train Connections to 3 will get you lvl2 missions, which will pay in both iskies and in standings if you decide to go back to mining.
Trade missions? Same as above, don't know if they're worth your time, but will advance you towards storyline missions, which are very lucrative.
You could pirate yourself. Sell your gear and buy a shuttle, blast past the gatecamp and kit out a frig. Get some guns and a scram and you could get lucky with a fat Zydrine hauler.
Rat-Tech1 frig, get nice and cozy with a few NPC Battlecruisers, net yourself some cash.
Basically, it all depends on your risk/reward ratio. How much are you willing to risk to get away from the monotony of mining?
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:39:00 -
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go join ASCN free shpis and lots of iskies - or BOB they prolly dont take noobs um any 0.0 alliacne ISS for starters - something that u might help with PVP but plenty of co op NPCing as well as provided ships for reasonable prices that sort of outfit is good - sa for not going below 0.5 thats where the funds are so if u want iskies then 0.0 is the place
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Vedz
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: Vedz on 14/11/2006 23:41:48
What are good items to look out for hauling besides industrial goods?
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ThePoncho
Minmatar
Lasleinur Production
Fimbulwinter
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:43:00 -
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If you are a decent miner and with an Osprey and miner II's like that you can mine omber in 0.5 Sec area and make quite a decent profit (0.5 is safe no one can kill you and rats should be ok).
If you train up your shield and cap skills you should be able to tank rats in 0.5 quite comfortably.
I have done this before and makes a reasonable amount of money.
GL with your adventures.
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What you eyes can't see, you can't hit
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Nastarovia
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Posted - 2006.11.14 23:59:00 -
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I'd rather mine omber in a 0.7 system, the rats are easier :)
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.11.15 00:05:00 -
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ya I originally got started mining omber and had a fleet of cruisers in no time. Isogen is quite profitable when you're starting out.
Find Roid, Examine, and Excavate Explorer |
Athena Starfire
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:06:00 -
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Edited by: Athena Starfire on 15/11/2006 01:11:37
Originally by: Vedz
I've been playing for about 2 months now and I still can't find a decent way to make ISK. I don't even want to go near below 0.5 sec until I have a way to quickly replace any destroyed ships resulting from pirates, gate-campers, etc. So, here is what I have tried so far. Please give some advice!
Mining-- I managed to get an Osprey with 3 Miner II's. I calculated my profit and it's about 1 million ISK per hour mining Scordite.
Hauling-- Once in awhile there would be a worth-while trade route and I could make 400-700k per trip, which usually takes me 20 minutes in a Badger.
That's it. I don't know what else to try. :(
2 months? How did you get a "Not !" in 2 months..did you buy an old account?
There is no way to 'get rich quick' in EVE.
As far as replacing ships lost in PvP
1.) Don't PvP OR
2.) Only fly what you can afford to lose (and replace)
Missons will make you a small bit. You can make snotloads doing Lvl 4 missions
If you want to make any kind of money mining, you need a covetor or hulk with strip miners on it and a hauler setup (not a mine to a can, then spend hours hauling it in). I can make about 4 mill an hour on Scrod and about 7 mill on Omber using a 'dump-truck' hauling scheme.
You can also short run the market..look for deal idoits have put up, buy and resell at a better profit.
You can go rat 0.5 and reprocess the loot, we do that then us the mins to make things like tractor beams that sell for 1 Mill+ and all it cost us was some time and ammo
Eve has so many ways to make ISK, I find it hard to believe everyone isn't rich.
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Christina Vallentine
Caldari
Tau Ceti Global Production
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Vedz
I've been playing for about 2 months now and I ....
So wait.. you have been here for 2 months and you have your avatar.. I have been here for over 6 and im still a queston mark face? Good fight. /end thread hijack
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:13:00 -
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lol higher risk + reward key is to join the PVP gangs as industrial types struggle unelss they are giving % to the PVPers
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Athena Starfire
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nastarovia
I'd rather mine omber in a 0.7 system, the rats are easier :)
?? AFAIK Omber in Hi-Sec is only in 0.5 and 0.6 Systems...
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Cammulos
Gallente
Magnetar Ltd
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:15:00 -
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Join a 0.0 alliance, rat in a BS. Believe it or not, but deep 0.0 is actually safer than empire 75% of the time. I don't even make as much as most of my friends do ratting, never had a faction BS spawn, and I still pull in at least 30million ever 2 hours or so, goto an empty system that is RARELY visited so gate activations don't mess up the belts and then just start sweeping through killing the big boys and living the midgets, do it over and over, soon you have 9 belts with double or triple BS spawns.
Easy money.
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mechtech
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:18:00 -
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Yep, I agree with most here.
Learn to survive in 0.0 by taking cheap frigs down.
Once you know how 0.0 works, and how to avoid all the dangers, start making 1m a rat 
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
EUROPEANS
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:23:00 -
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like mechtech said a incurus with 4x light ion blasters anti matter AB and armour rep can take down a 500k BS in about 6 minutes
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Brolly
Caldari
The Department of Justice
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:26:00 -
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0.0 is kinda the land of milk and honey...ish. Once you learn the lay of the land it's quite easy raking it in ratting, on that note though, you must be wary of local and expect losses.
When Kali/revelations arrives there will be a bucketload of isk to be made, granted you keep an open mind. With the new areas opening up there will be easy money to be made killing drones for their juice, plus datacores in complexes which loadsa peeps will be after for their T2/invention stuff.
If I had ú1 for every intelligent comment posted in general discussion, I'd be hideously in debt |
Athena Starfire
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:28:00 -
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Edited by: Athena Starfire on 15/11/2006 01:28:49
Originally by: Christina Vallentine
Originally by: Vedz
I've been playing for about 2 months now and I ....
So wait.. you have been here for 2 months and you have your avatar.. I have been here for over 6 and im still a queston mark face? Good fight. /end thread hijack
Don't feel bad I have been waiting for 7..
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Zeknichov
Amarr
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: Zeknichov on 15/11/2006 01:39:39
Don't waist your time in empire. Join a 0.0 corp. Train for a dominix (by far the easiest BS to rat in with the least amount of skills.) Train your drone skills up. Find a way to get 80M. I would just ask someone to borrow from. Buy a dominix and start ratting. If you can't borrow 80M from anyone then use your osprey to go on mining ops with your new 0.0 corp. Just show a lot of enthusiasm about helping them mine. You know offer to help and only ask for very little isk they will be more than happy to give you lots of isk. Just stay out of empire, it's a waist of time if you want to make isk/have fun.
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Sir Drake
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:51:00 -
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The best you can do to earn isk in empire is doing missions.
Boring as hell from my pov but whatever.
To get a decent isk/hour rate you need to either do lvl4 missions (which are mostly in low sec as far as i know) or move out to 0.0 for hunting/mining.
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Vedz
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.11.15 01:54:00 -
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what do lvl3 missions pay?
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Maestro Ulv
Phaze-9
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Posted - 2006.11.15 02:19:00 -
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Jump in a rifter, fit it with t1 guns, t1 burner etc. Go to ISS down in Providence and kill Sanshas. Its relatively safe, gives you a decent ground to learn surviving in 0.0 and nets a tidy profit. Watch out for the frigs, orbit everything else about 1k and pick on the BS under 700k if solo. Oh yeah fire nothing but EM for the rats.
If ya do lose your ship after playing for an hour or two you should have made enough to replace it in Consido 10 times over.
Or mine in empire as was already mentioned
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Michayel Lyon
Contention Inc
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Posted - 2006.11.15 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vedz
what do lvl3 missions pay?
Standing increases to get you to lvl4's.
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Red Knight > we are allied by our zombie like ability to ***** missions
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slothe
Caldari
Forsaken Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.15 05:36:00 -
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create an alt
alt learn how to fly haulers
steal ore
easy.
fun too i believe.
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Andargor theWise
Disbelievers of Fate
The SUdden Death Squad
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Posted - 2006.11.15 06:48:00 -
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Originally by: slothe
Wait for Kali
create an uber alt with 800K SPs off the bat
alt learn how to fly haulers
steal ore, research BPOs, build stuff, run your corporation, and p0wnx0r newbs with you 1337 alt skills
easy.
fun too i believe.
Fixed.
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Got grief?
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Madcat Adams
Mission Runners Anonymous Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.11.15 07:04:00 -
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Lvl 3 missions pay decently. Running them casually with good loot nets me +50 million a week. Sometimes more, sometimes less. Lvl 4's are vastly more profitable, also vastly more dangerous though. Can solo with an Apoc and good skills, but a weird missle bug has cost me several apocs so abandoned them.
It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Aimez- "oh ****, this is empire......."
Thanks for the loot, and next time you go out to pirate, carry more tech 2 plz =) |
Luthildae
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.11.15 07:10:00 -
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Originally by: Vedz
Mining-- I managed to get an Osprey with 3 Miner II's. I calculated my profit and it's about 1 million ISK per hour mining Scordite.
Why on earth are you mining Scordite?
Mine either Kernite or Omber in high sec - dont even bother with Scord.
When mining try to max out astrogeology, mining and refining skills - gets you more ore to sell.
And dont go selling at the first station you see - find one that has decent sell %.
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ELECTR0FREAK
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.11.15 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Athena Starfire
Originally by: Nastarovia
I'd rather mine omber in a 0.7 system, the rats are easier :)
?? AFAIK Omber in Hi-Sec is only in 0.5 and 0.6 Systems...
I can attest to 1 0.7 system containing omber.
Back in my noobie days it was a lifesaver. Haven't been there in a long time, I hear now it's stripped to all hell.
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Mush Room
Caldari
Svea Rike
Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2006.11.15 10:26:00 -
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Edited by: Mush Room on 15/11/2006 10:27:54
Hi, some advice from a fellow noob here!
I've been playing for about 3 months and I'm wallowing in ISK. I'd estimate I have about(or a bit over) 500m ISK in assets and wallet. How? I utilize every opportunity that appears to make ISK. Well..that and I play EvE *a lot*. ;)
I suggest you start doing missions(best profit in empire) then learn how to PvP and move out in 0.0 where all the real money is(unless you farm lvl 4 missions with gist equip that is). Before you know it you'll be making big bucks. 0.0 Ratting can net you about 5-10m/ISK per hour and that's only counting the bounties.
Good luck mate!
edit: Obviously you want to join a 0.0 corp not move out there alone. ;)
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Paul Kurt
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:13:00 -
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You also could grab a cruiser with blasters, and find a nice 0.5 system to gank some haulers , you wouldnt believe what nice loot they drop. |
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