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Zhaine B e l l u m	Posted - 2006.11.25 12:38:00 - [31] Edited by: Zhaine on 25/11/2006 12:37:57 Originally by: SirMolle Respect is earnt. This thread is unnecessary. You saw the irony when you typed that right? Surely? I mean of all the threads started by BoB since the start of the ASCN conflict, this is one of the least unnecessary. Not that I haven't enjoyed the other BoB threads immensely (no, really, I have) but you've gotta be a bit funny in the head to think that this is "unnecessary", while your propaganda/war report/whatever threads have been doing some sort of public service. And I agree with others above, some sort of respect is "assumed" or "given" until the relavent party does something that warrants not giving it any more. It's also true that a lot more respect is there to be earned if you do something to earn it. Anyway, there's also something called being nice, or civil, and something else called arrogance, but I'll leave my post there. - - - - - - - - - - "PERGITE DEGUSTATE FORMOSUM BELLUM" Forward to taste the beautifull war. . .
slothe Caldari Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.25 13:01:00 - [32] Edited by: slothe on 25/11/2006 13:02:25 meh delete this please.
DeadDuck Omega Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.25 13:46:00 - [33] Originally by: SirMolle Respect is earnt. This thread is unnecessary. ...
Karunel Nuevos Horizontes O X I D E	Posted - 2006.11.25 14:03:00 - [34] A post in this thread lacks class. Respect to the OP tho, good to see some people "keep it real". Cheers. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.25 14:13:00 - [35] Originally by: Ysabelle nKataros What have you got if you ain't got no respect? This is a thread for the respect that seems to have fallen out of the bottom of every other thread where trolling, flaming or paranoia have overwhelmed its presence. I went into this war with a very high opinion of ASCN's dedication and achievements and for the majority of its membership I still hold that opinion. ASCN, you have dared to bring the fight to us, you have battled tooth and nail where other alliances have crumbled and faded. No matter that the war has proceeded largely along the lines expected, I doubt any other would have taken half the beating you have and yet still be throwing themselves into the fray. To you, the pilots of the line who have given your ships and pods and your time to the defense of your lands, I salute you. Throughout the (many) pages of discussion this war has spawned, I have seen snippets and flashes of the respect each side has for the other. For those pilots that are unable to respond mutually, I ask that you leave this thread to those that do; despite the minority who may have offended your principles or acted in a manner you condemn, there are many that would still kick the ball between the trenches on Christmas day, and shake the hand of the man they have been shooting at. And so to you my comrades in BoB I offer thanks for starting this marvellous little scrap for my entertainment, and to ASCN for fighting the good fight. See you in space. as manfred said, you are samurai. o7 ------- Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
Unholy Preacher Trade Consortium Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.25 15:16:00 - [36] I think what the OP is trying to say is that theres a distinction between a respect for a person and a respect for their fighting skill. Obviously the OP is demonstrating a respect for the former which i applaud and hope everyone can come to agreement about because if you dont have the basic respect for another person then what type of person does that make you?
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.25 16:19:00 - [37] Edited by: killerco on 25/11/2006 16:19:24 Originally by: Ysabelle nKataros What have you got if you ain't got no respect? This is a thread for the respect that seems to have fallen out of the bottom of every other thread where trolling, flaming or paranoia have overwhelmed its presence. I went into this war with a very high opinion of ASCN's dedication and achievements and for the majority of its membership I still hold that opinion. ASCN, you have dared to bring the fight to us, you have battled tooth and nail where other alliances have crumbled and faded. No matter that the war has proceeded largely along the lines expected, I doubt any other would have taken half the beating you have and yet still be throwing themselves into the fray. To you, the pilots of the line who have given your ships and pods and your time to the defense of your lands, I salute you. /me salute you See ya in space Don't be a great man just be a man
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:11:00 - [38] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: SirMolle Respect is earnt. This thread is unnecessary. The only real unnecessity in this thread is your reply, Mrs. Molly. GO WOODY KICK HIS ASS!!! happy to see you back carebearing in d2 :) Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:18:00 - [39] Edited by: Kyguard on 25/11/2006 17:18:33 Respect isn't earnt. Respect is given by default and removed when necessary. === It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here]
Nikolai Tesla Yulai Financial	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:17:00 - [40] Edited by: Nikolai Tesla on 25/11/2006 18:17:53 Respect is not a commodity that you can run out of. Therefore, I have no problem with respecting people until they do something to decrease that respect. Originally by: SirMolle Respect is earnt. This thread is unnecessary. You know how people make posts that they think will make them look like a badass, but they just end up looking like a tool? Yeah...
KingAc Minmatar North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:50:00 - [41] Yarrrr let the kladdkaka bring peace to all of eve or NOT!!!!!!!!!!! Lets the wars beging
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:50:00 - [42] Originally by: SirMolle Respect is earnt. This thread is unnecessary. Er no. Respect is given to every fellow human being. Whether they chose to live up to the level of respect given to them in order to keep it is up to them. If they dont manage that then they would have to earn it back. ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:53:00 - [43] Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: SirMolle Respect is earnt. This thread is unnecessary. Er no. Respect is given to every fellow human being. Whether they chose to live up to the level of respect given to them in order to keep it is up to them. If they dont manage that then they would have to earn it back. Respect as a human, sure. Respect in a game? In a competition? Hell no. In the latter it surely does have to be earnt. Originally by: CRYVOK Others, like BoB, they play the game in a meaningless fasition, concerned with nothing but winning. We care about our friends.
Slowboat Interspace Trade Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:03:00 - [44] Edited by: Slowboat on 25/11/2006 19:04:43 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: SirMolle Respect is earnt. This thread is unnecessary. Er no. Respect is given to every fellow human being. Whether they chose to live up to the level of respect given to them in order to keep it is up to them. If they dont manage that then they would have to earn it back. Respect as a human, sure. Respect in a game? In a competition? Hell no. In the latter it surely does have to be earnt. So what you and Molle are saying is that you have absolutely no respect for the ASCN members that bring it every day and every major attack? Niiiiiiicee... Luckily for your alliance there are members like the OP, who is indeed Samurai.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:09:00 - [45] Originally by: Slowboat So what you and Molle are saying is that you have absolutely no respect for the ASCN members that bring it every day and every major attack? Niiiiiiicee... Yes, that's absolutely what I mean. Hell, those people have done NOTHING to earn their respect, have they? Not like they fight, or anything... Try reading the post next time. People say that others automatically get respect, we call bull**, especially in a competetive environment. Don't hurt yourself trying to comprehend it. Originally by:** CRYVOK Others, like BoB, they play the game in a meaningless fasition, concerned with nothing but winning. We care about our friends.
Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:36:00 - [46] Originally by: Nikolai Tesla Originally by: SirMolle Respect is earnt. This thread is unnecessary. You know how people make posts that they think will make them look like a badass, but they just end up looking like a tool? Yeah... lol, exactly. BoB are a well led, determined, successful organisation, but they get no respect from a lot of people because of 'tools' like molle who give them a bad rep. As he says, respect should be earned, he needs to chew on his own words a bit. If the apparantly demented few in BoB would stop letting thier alliance down with thier needlessly abrasive discourse, they would probably earn the respect of a lot more people. Serious attitude dysfunction. He might just be role playing his position though, because I doubt someone could possibly take this spaceship game nonsense so seriously. Thumbs up to the thread creater though. ----------------- Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
KingAc Minmatar North Star Networks	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:39:00 - [47] Edited by: KingAc on 25/11/2006 19:39:16 The secret kladdkaka army will let you fall down easy.
BobGhengisKhan Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:47:00 - [48] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Slowboat So what you and Molle are saying is that you have absolutely no respect for the ASCN members that bring it every day and every major attack? Niiiiiiicee... Yes, that's absolutely what I mean. Hell, those people have done NOTHING to earn their respect, have they? Not like they fight, or anything... Try reading the post next time. People say that others automatically get respect, we call bull**, especially in a competetive environment. Don't hurt yourself trying to comprehend it. Your a bigger *** tool than molle is. Go blindly follow some other morale high ground, like say... being a***sucker.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:56:00 - [49] Originally by: BobGhengisKhan Your a bigger ***** tool than molle is. Go blindly follow some other morale high ground, like say... being a*sucker. Once you vacate the position of*sucker I'll be sure to put in an application, Bob. Until then, I guess you should stop blowing and keep on sucking? Originally by:** CRYVOK Others, like BoB, they play the game in a meaningless fasition, concerned with nothing but winning. We care about our friends.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.25 19:58:00 - [50] Originally by: Slowboat Respect is always deserved in competition as long as your opponent is trying their best each time they face you. You may outclass them in skills or what have you but if they are honestly throwing their best effort at you? It is definitely deserved and earned. So, you agree that those who sit by the sidelines and do not EARN IT, deserve no respect? Glad we got that cleared up, because thats' what we've been saying. Respect, is earned. Those that earn it most certainly DO deserve it. Should you respect someone that just docks at the first sign of trouble, logs off and then goes back to mining once others have done their part? No, you shouldn't. So, what's your point? Originally by: CRYVOK Others, like BoB, they play the game in a meaningless fasition, concerned with nothing but winning. We care about our friends.
Estarriol Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.25 20:01:00 - [51] Originally by: Plim lol, exactly. BoB are a well led, determined, successful organisation, but they get no respect from a lot of people because of 'tools' like molle who give them a bad rep. Well, that certainly is an interesting statement, seeing as Molle has earnt the universal respect of his corp members, whom he quite successfully leads with his unrivaled determination and organisational skills. The only 'tools' in this game are ones who talk like 'badasses' and don't back it up in game. Quote: ProphetGuru > It was a Wasp!
Thaylon Sen The Rat Pack	Posted - 2006.11.25 20:02:00 - [52] Originally by: SirMolle Respect is earnt. This thread is unnecessary. Something given has no value. You have to earn it for it to be of value to you. So yes... Respect of any worth or meaning, is earnt. And to be honest, respect to SirMolle, because over the years he's earnt it.
Beringe Caldari Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.11.25 20:05:00 - [53] Edited by: Beringe on 25/11/2006 20:05:40 Originally by: Dianabolic So, you agree that those who sit by the sidelines and do not EARN IT, deserve no respect? Glad we got that cleared up, because thats' what we've been saying. All I've seen is two prominent members of BOB flaming a thread made by one of their own members, in order to deny respect to those the OP thought deserved it. Backpedal faster. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Ysabelle nKataros Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.25 20:07:00 - [54] just to clarify something here. This is a war of conquest. We are here to burn, loot, rape, pillage, destroy, and conquer. Respect doesn't mean I won't do all that, it just means I won't smack you in local BoB: When we have fleet battles, our killboard crashes
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.25 20:14:00 - [55] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Darko1107 Originally by: SirMolle Respect is earnt. This thread is unnecessary. Er no. Respect is given to every fellow human being. Whether they chose to live up to the level of respect given to them in order to keep it is up to them. If they dont manage that then they would have to earn it back. Respect as a human, sure. Respect in a game? In a competition? Why the hell not? In the olyimpics im pretty much 100% sure every athlete respects every other athlete. In a game, why shouldnt you respect everyone? I dont care if they dont give YOU a fight, i dont care if they do. They should be respected for playing the game how THEY want to and now how you want them to play it. If some1 fails at a game, they should be given any respect? Seems a bit shallow. However, from a roleplay point of view i can understand the respect/disrespect thing. But pretty much ONLY then. I think most people take it to far though. ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.25 20:14:00 - [56] Originally by: Beringe Edited by: Beringe on 25/11/2006 20:05:40 Originally by: Dianabolic So, you agree that those who sit by the sidelines and do not EARN IT, deserve no respect? Glad we got that cleared up, because thats' what we've been saying. All I've seen is two prominent members of BOB flaming a thread made by one of their own members, in order to deny respect to those the OP thought deserved it. Backpedal faster. Mind showing us where we flamed Ysabelle? Originally by: CRYVOK Others, like BoB, they play the game in a meaningless fasition, concerned with nothing but winning. We care about our friends.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.25 20:20:00 - [57] Originally by: Darko1107 Why the hell not? In the olyimpics im pretty much 100% sure every athlete respects every other athlete. In a game, why shouldnt you respect everyone? I dont care if they dont give YOU a fight, i dont care if they do. They should be respected for playing the game how THEY want to and now how you want them to play it. If some1 fails at a game, they should be given any respect? Seems a bit shallow.$. Darko, if you're at the olympics (rl analogies ftl) do you really think people have just "turned up" out of nowhere and been given respect? Have they heck. You turn up to any football ground and demand that the players there respect your ABILITY and you'll get laughed at. Then turn them inside out whilst blindfolded or hopping on one leg, THEN you will get respect. The notion that people think they should be respected for their ability WHEN IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN is laughable, at best. No one, least of all BoB, dis-respects people for failing, we have no respect for those that do not TRY. Originally by: CRYVOK Others, like BoB, they play the game in a meaningless fasition, concerned with nothing but winning. We care about our friends.
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.25 20:38:00 - [58] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Darko1107 Why the hell not? In the olyimpics im pretty much 100% sure every athlete respects every other athlete. In a game, why shouldnt you respect everyone? I dont care if they dont give YOU a fight, i dont care if they do. They should be respected for playing the game how THEY want to and now how you want them to play it. If some1 fails at a game, they should be given any respect? Seems a bit shallow.$. Darko, if you're at the olympics (rl analogies ftl) do you really think people have just "turned up" out of nowhere and been given respect? Have they heck. You turn up to any football ground and demand that the players there respect your ABILITY and you'll get laughed at. Then turn them inside out whilst blindfolded or hopping on one leg, THEN you will get respect. The notion that people think they should be respected for their ability WHEN IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN is laughable, at best. No one, least of all BoB, dis-respects people for failing, we have no respect for those that do not TRY. Now we are moving on to just respecting abilities and effort? Tbh, sirmolles statement was, or at least seemed, far more broad than that. However i do agree you can only respect some1 for thier ability once they have proven it. But if they dont have that ability you just dont respect them at all? I wouldnt really care whether they tried or not, unless they suddenly became in some way insulting towards me i would still respect them, in general. Dont make me laugh. BoB disrespect everyone thats fails. No doubt about that. ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Beringe Caldari Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.11.25 21:14:00 - [59] Originally by: Dianabolic Darko, if you're at the olympics (rl analogies ftl) do you really think people have just "turned up" out of nowhere and been given respect? In many cases, yes. Some olympians, especially in the past, have competed in events that were almost entirely outlandish to them, just so their country could have a representative in said event. A certain bobsled team from Jamaica comes to mind. And if you look closely at the times of some of Mark Spitz' competitors, you can tell they had very little ability. Of course, these people were often ridiculed by the unsportsmanlike gits of the world. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Shinjuro Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.11.25 21:26:00 - [60] Well TBH I agree with Molle (WTF?). I myself am guilty of showing no respect for my enemies in this game, and I won't ever show them any. They were made enemies by showing lack of respect for anyone or anything. Both BoB and ASCN respect very little in a sense. They both (prior to the war) thought or think they can do anything they want. That isn't respect, that is ignorance.

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