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Sir Erighan Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.29 13:29:00 - [1] Hello everyone! Thanks for the smooth update CCP. Revelations FTW! High Slots 200mm Prototype Rail Gun 200mm Prototype Rail Gun 200mm Prototype Rail Gun 200mm Prototype Rail Gun Drone Link Augmenter Tractor Beam Med Slots 10MN Afterburner II Web (best named) Cap Recharger (II or best named) Cap Recharger (II or best named) Cap Recharger (II or best named) Low Slots Medium Armor Rep II Medium Armor Rep II EANM II EANM II Active Thermal Hardener II Active Kinetic Hardener II Drones 5x Rat Specific Heavy II or 3x Heavy II & 5 Medium II This should be pretty solid for any lvl 3 mission and some lvl 4s. I havenÆt tested it, so not sure how well it works. You can switch out the EANMs and replace them with additional active hardeners, but I prefer to have the additional % to EM and Explosive resists (personal preference)
Heelay Ashrum Caldari Santhe Sienar Technologies	Posted - 2006.11.29 13:39:00 - [2] Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 29/11/2006 13:39:14 not cheched since now, but: 1) if u fit 5 light drones u dont need the webber. IMHO it's worthwaste 25M3 drone bay to be able to kill all frigs and cruisers ( with ship bonus, the light drones T2 kill npc cruisers, just fine). 2) why hybryd weapons? u have not bonus un hybrys dammage, so use projectiles. No cap usage & easier to fit. imho it's better have 5 light drones and 4 havies.
Sir Erighan Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.29 13:46:00 - [3] 1. Most the time heavy drones don't have problems killing NPC frigs. The only problem with heavies is you don't have any replacements, so you need to make sure none of them get killed. 2. I'm using hybrids because that's what I have my skills in. It's not like they're using that much cap anyway.
Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.29 13:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Heelay Ashrum Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 29/11/2006 13:39:14 not cheched since now, but: 1) if u fit 5 light drones u dont need the webber. IMHO it's worthwaste 25M3 drone bay to be able to kill all frigs and cruisers ( with ship bonus, the light drones T2 kill npc cruisers, just fine). 2) why hybryd weapons? u have not bonus un hybrys dammage, so use projectiles. No cap usage & easier to fit. imho it's better have 5 light drones and 4 havies. Let's see.... probably the same reason I don't: Medium hybrid turrets lvl5, both medium hybrid turret specialization skills lvl 5 Medium projectile turrets NOT BOUGHT, both medium projectile turret specialization skills SEE medium projectile turrest!
Darknar	Posted - 2006.11.29 13:56:00 - [5] gallente players generally have better hybrid skills. however i do agree that autocannons or artillary might be quite a funky option for this ship.
Sir Howard Gallente Infinity Aeronautics EntroPraetorian Aegis	Posted - 2006.11.29 14:05:00 - [6] Edited by: Sir Howard on 29/11/2006 14:06:22 Edited by: Sir Howard on 29/11/2006 14:05:44 Yep, I'm definitly looking foward to getting in this ship. Although the thought of using projectiles never crossed my mind. And with all those mid slots you could even throw in some remote dampeners for pvp. "This is a bad idea wrapped in a horrible plan and shipped in a retarded box"
Sir Erighan Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.29 14:16:00 - [7] Originally by: Sir Howard Edited by: Sir Howard on 29/11/2006 14:06:22 Edited by: Sir Howard on 29/11/2006 14:05:44 Yep, I'm definitly looking foward to getting in this ship. Although the thought of using projectiles never crossed my mind. And with all those mid slots you could even throw in some remote dampeners for pvp. Yeah, for PvP I would drop the rails and replace with blasters. The drone link and tractor would be replaced with med nos. The 3 CRs would be replaced with 1 WCS and 2 remote dampeners. The lows would be 1 MAR II, 2 EANM II, 2 MFS and maybe a damage control. I just love the slot layout on this ship. Many, many different setup options.
Sir Howard Gallente Infinity Aeronautics EntroPraetorian Aegis	Posted - 2006.11.29 14:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Sir Erighan Yeah, for PvP I would drop the rails and replace with blasters. The drone link and tractor would be replaced with med nos. The 3 CRs would be replaced with 1 WCS and 2 remote dampeners. The lows would be 1 MAR II, 2 EANM II, 2 MFS and maybe a damage control. I just love the slot layout on this ship. Many, many different setup options. Nice..but I think it would be cool to go for the long range with those Dampeners. Maybe throw on some howitzers like someone above mentioned. Then keep that drone link aug., sit back at the howitsers optimom range with the dampeners going and the drones punding away. Would be a nice setup, untill someone got close that is lol "This is a bad idea wrapped in a horrible plan and shipped in a retarded box"
Sir Erighan Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.29 14:37:00 - [9] Yup, you can use dampeners that way. I was doing a 180 and thinking of using them for other reasons. I like forcing the enemy closer so I can use my blasters. Also, the dampeners help increase the targeting time it takes the enemy to lock you AND your drones. I completely forgot about rigs. How would rigs change the build for missions/ratting? Would you add damage mods, PG mods and fit larger guns, etc.
Kruel Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.29 15:24:00 - [10] Edited by: Kruel on 29/11/2006 15:24:29 Sentries and a couple drone tracking mods might be fun... for PVE that is.
Sir Howard Gallente Infinity Aeronautics EntroPraetorian Aegis	Posted - 2006.11.29 16:23:00 - [11] Good news is it will only take me a day to train up to get me one of these things.....now quick someone give me a bpc lol. I heard from some poeple last night that were on much longer than me after Rev went live that later on some of the new Tier 2 BC's went out for sale but for like 70 million...ouch But ya due to the well round slots on this ship, I can see their being alota different setups out there. "This is a bad idea wrapped in a horrible plan and shipped in a retarded box"
Jaxtet Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.29 16:42:00 - [12] Actually, the ships I saw on the market this morning...the Myrm was 83 million ISK. Glad me and a friend went in on a BPO when the server went live. - It's great to have a life outside of a video game, ain't it?«
Mlada Partizanka	Posted - 2006.11.29 16:53:00 - [13] new drake was 125m a few minutes ago :D nice to know i can start a new char and fly any of the new bcs in a day. or not :(
Centurin Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.29 16:59:00 - [14] lol. 125mil for a nerfed ship. Thats funny. ----------------------------------------------- "Freedom is the right of all sentient beings" - Optimus Prime
Jin Jemai Caldari Nightgliders	Posted - 2006.11.30 04:18:00 - [15] So, I just picked up one of these beauties for far too much ISK, and I'm having a hell of a time choosing what to go with for the high slots. There's just so many options available. I could go with a full wrack of medium NOS' bar 1 slot for a Drone link, but the extra damage from some turrets would be great for grinding out missions, but then there's the matter of which turrets compliment the drones the best. Too many bloody choices ----- Im in ur Chicago wearing dresses at night.
Benglada Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.11.30 04:25:00 - [16] Originally by: Sir Erighan Hello everyone! Thanks for the smooth update CCP. Revelations FTW! Med Slots Cap Recharger (II or best named) Cap Recharger (II or best named) Cap Recharger (II or best named) You could buy a domi with that much isk. --------------------------- Originally by: Arkanor 0.0 is the Final Frontier. Bring money and friends.
Cheese999 Minmatar Spitefully Targeting Foolishly Underskilled The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.11.30 05:22:00 - [17] You can buy a Domi for the current Myrm price anyway. ----- There is no Spoon Minmatar: Bending over for Tux since RmR
Jaxtony	Posted - 2006.11.30 06:29:00 - [18] This ship is missions on easy mode...the gallente ferox lol It's great to be human, ain't it?
Heelay Ashrum Caldari Santhe Sienar Technologies	Posted - 2006.11.30 08:19:00 - [19] Originally by: Sir Erighan 1. Most the time heavy drones don't have problems killing NPC frigs. There are some exceptions. I have hi drone skills but still medium ( not hravy: medium) drones have problems to kill some frigs. For example the "serpentis veteran", but there are other examples. If even medium T2 rones cant hit them, i'm all for lights, expecially becaure those frigs are exactly who web/scramle u. in any case... everyone have hs priority.
Eirin Bareth	Posted - 2006.11.30 10:55:00 - [20] Tested this setup on lvl 3 rogue drones yesterday, haven't tested it more yet. Highs: 5x250mm rails (need Electronics IV for the last rail, training atm) Drone link Enhancer Meds: AB Web Target painter 2xcap recharger Lows: Medium repper DC 4 hardeners of choice, perhaps a combination of passive and active, needs more testing Truth be told, the drones never reached my armour, so I don't know how well it runs cap wise. I put in 5 heavies just to try them, but for lvl 3s I might choose 10 meds and 5 lights instead. I use a dedicated loot ship, so don't bother with tractor on the mission runner. I have skills in hybrids, so that is what I fit. Btw, why do people always mention t2 equipment or the name of the module? I assume people will always fit the best they can afford/have the skills for, so why bother? Unless of course a specific module is needed to be able to fit it...
Sir Erighan Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.30 11:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Benglada Originally by: Sir Erighan Hello everyone! Thanks for the smooth update CCP. Revelations FTW! Med Slots Cap Recharger (II or best named) Cap Recharger (II or best named) Cap Recharger (II or best named) You could buy a domi with that much isk. As someone already mentioned...these Tier 2 BC are going to cost just as much as most Tier 1 BS, at least for quite some time. And this ship is so much cooler looking than the Domi I wouldn't spend this much on my pvp ships, but for NPC killing, I like to go overboard
Heelay Ashrum Caldari Santhe Sienar Technologies	Posted - 2006.11.30 14:53:00 - [22] Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 30/11/2006 14:54:01 Originally by: Eirin Bareth Btw, why do people always mention t2 equipment or the name of the module? I assume people will always fit the best they can afford/have the skills for, so why bother? Unless of course a specific module is needed to be able to fit it... T2 equipment have higher requirements, so often u simply cant'fit them. Sometimes u have to drop t2 items in favout of "best named" ( t1 requirement). Giving T2 setup means that this ship can be fitted ( ovbiusly if u have skill to use them).
Eirin Bareth	Posted - 2006.11.30 20:34:00 - [23] Originally by: Heelay Ashrum Edited by: Heelay Ashrum on 30/11/2006 14:54:01 Originally by: Eirin Bareth Btw, why do people always mention t2 equipment or the name of the module? I assume people will always fit the best they can afford/have the skills for, so why bother? Unless of course a specific module is needed to be able to fit it... T2 equipment have higher requirements, so often u simply cant'fit them. Sometimes u have to drop t2 items in favout of "best named" ( t1 requirement). Giving T2 setup means that this ship can be fitted ( ovbiusly if u have skill to use them). Yeah, ok, I see that Btw, I also found out that since 250mm Prototype I Gauss guns have quite lower cpu need than even the 250mm Compressed Coil Gun, this setup works, even with only electronics lvl 3 and weapons upgrade lvl 2: Highs: 5x250mm Prototype I Gauss Gun Drone link Enhancer Meds: AB Web Target painter 2xcap recharger Lows: Medium repper DC 4 hardeners of choice, active or passive
LeMoose The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.30 20:36:00 - [24] it depends on the npcs u hunt which guns it would be best to use, personally id hunt sanshas or blood raiders and use lasers since then u are 100% self reliant no ammo needs which is kinda uber , go deep and search for rare spawns 4tw ;)
SunTzuRaven Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.01 00:03:00 - [25] Highs 4 425ACs, 2 Med Nos Meds 1 AB, 1 Webber, 3 Cap Rechargers Lows 2 med reps, 2 EAN II, 2 specific hardeners With the nos going you can run both reps for about forever, and the guns don't eat up your cap. Rather not use cap then not carry ammo to be honest. ________________________________________ <("<) <('')> (>")>
Eirin Bareth	Posted - 2006.12.01 12:23:00 - [26] I've found that with warp to 0, and because I mainly rely on the drones, there is actually little need for the AB. I currently test a setup where the AB is replaced by a medium cap battery, together with 2 rechargers. Can run all modules virtually forever with that...
Motoko 1982 Gallente Gentilitas Canis Venatici	Posted - 2006.12.21 00:33:00 - [27] I am currently flying this dream of a boat with the following setup: High: 5x 250mm proto gauss 1x Drone link Mid: All cap rechargers Low: 2x MAR's 1x Power coil (-shield, +cap rech) 3x Rat specific hardeners Works out very well on missions, and can run everything for quite some time. I ALWAYS load up 3 heavies and 5 medium. The mediums tear through any frigate with ease, and the heavies are excellent for big guys. I love the drone damage bonus. Though, reading here, I might indeed lose some guns for nosses, and replace my rechargers for something more interesting, like an afterburner. I'm not going to fit a web, since I don't need it. When I can't hit, my drones do a very decent job (BC skill 4, interfacing 4). I just bash the big guys, then take in the heavies and throw out 5 mediums and just wait a while to enjoy the fireworks. Maybe some ecm will be nice, but I can't use any of that stuff with my 5m skillpoints... Yet :) Anyhow, you will never ever be dissappointed in this extremely versatile ship. Endless options, and good with drones. What more could one wish for? :)
Zin Rathbone	Posted - 2006.12.21 00:47:00 - [28] My mission Myrmidon, 5 250m rails, spend for goods ones as desired. 1 Drone Link Augmentor 1 AB 4 Cap Rechargers 1 MARII 2 Active Armor Hardeners 1 Dammage Control 1 Magnetic Stab (or whatever the rail dammage mod is called) Last slot either another Active Hardener if i need a thrid resist, or a EANM if the rats just do two dammage types. 5 light and 4 heavy drones, rat specific. With good cap skills and a good BC skill for the Armor repairer bonus this tanks like a mad fiend and never runs out of cap. Did the Blockade in it the other day. The first wave made me a bit nervous, the others never made significant progess against my armor. Fun to fly as well.
Slimo	Posted - 2006.12.21 02:35:00 - [29] Edited by: Slimo on 21/12/2006 02:36:00 Ok here's my ratting fit, i'm at work so can't remember specific names but you can assume best mod that i have skills for: 5x720mm t2 artils 1xsalvager 10mwd, med shield booster t2, 2xcap rechargers, target painter 2xt2 reactor control units 2x eanm's and med armour rep and a stabiliser that gives me an extra 10% rate of fire I forget the name also a mix of light & med. drones (currently training for t2's) I very rarely get below my shields on this and if I do I never go very far into my armor. My max hit is in the 800's and I very rarely miss! Fly Safe Slimo Currently recuiting see my bio for details
Zeros Omega Caldari Raddick Explorations	Posted - 2006.12.23 20:45:00 - [30] with good cap skills you can get away with with Highs - tractors & slavagers & drone links, probably want 3 t2 small guns here to take care of frigates and small ships Mids - 100mn AB2, Cap Rechagers (f-b10 or better) Lows - MAR2, 4 t2 hardeners, CPR runs forever... with BC4/5 it can tank anything it needs to

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