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Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.29 19:20:00 - [1] Also, if you are experiencing stuttering sound, etc. The problem appears to be centered around AMD dual core processors, and their "relationship" with Windows XP and DirectX. You can have a temporary workaround by either setting the process to single core in Task Manager for your eve executable OR Download http://www.42productions.de/downloads/ChangeProccessAffinity.zip Copy it anywhere, such as: c:\Program Files\ChangeProcessAffinity\ make a desktop shortcut change the shortcut properties Target: "C:\Program Files\ChangeProccessAffinity\ChangeProccessAffinity.exe" "C:\Program Files\dodgy\bin\dodgyprogram.exe" 1 Make sure you have that "1" at the end - that tells it to run on one processor AND make sure you replace the "dodgy" with the eve directory and eve executable. Also check this out: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909944/ This last part describes the problem. It is affecting quite a few games.
duncan senturas	Posted - 2006.11.29 19:27:00 - [2] how does one set the process to single core in task manager for the eve executable?
Zymm	Posted - 2006.11.29 19:40:00 - [3] Edited by: Zymm on 29/11/2006 19:39:58 Its not related to AMD procs. Both of my systems are Intel Core Duo 2.
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.29 19:43:00 - [4] Originally by: Zymm Edited by: Zymm on 29/11/2006 19:39:58 Its not related to AMD procs. Both of my systems are Intel Core Duo 2. If you are having the problem, and you have a dual core machine, you need to open Task manager and right click on the process for the eve executable, and set it to single core (single processor). Microsoft says there is a problem with games that are doing multithreaded timing operations.
duncan senturas	Posted - 2006.11.29 19:48:00 - [5] what if im having the issue and i dont have a dual core?
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.29 19:50:00 - [6] Originally by: duncan senturas what if im having the issue and i dont have a dual core? Can't help you there then. This IS a problem with more games than just Eve.
K'thang	Posted - 2006.11.29 19:57:00 - [7] By crashes, do you also mean BSODs? 'Cause I have had a few of those after this patch. Especially in crowded areas. I will try your approach, and see if it helps.
MaDOnos	Posted - 2006.11.29 19:59:00 - [8] I use AMD Sempron 2800 + (Mobile) My friend use intel core Duo 1800 but The game is crashed after jumping.
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.29 20:12:00 - [9] IF YOU HAVE A DUAL CORE PROCESSOR AND ARE RUNNING WIN XP SP2 TRY THIS FIX CCP is saying the same thing (except that they are saying use the Task Manager to set to single core).
Majin82 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2006.11.29 20:25:00 - [10] There seems to also be a problem for some people with Intagrated Sound on some Intel MBs. Disabling Sound fixes that problem. ------------------------------------- Proud member of G Guild!

Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.29 20:28:00 - [11] This is the same problem that people are having with Serious Sam 2 and Call of Duty 2.
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.29 20:44:00 - [12] On examination of the Microsoft bulletin on this problem: [QUOTE]This problem may occur if the program that you are running uses the QueryPerformanceCounter and QueryPerformanceFrequency functions to generate timecode but uses only the lower 32 bits of the result and assumes that this is a signed number. On hyper-threaded computers, dual-processor computers, or single proc computers in which the CPU speed is greater than 2 GHz, the output may be incorrectly interpreted by certain programs, and as a result, the program may not run correctly or may stop responding.[/QUOTE] So even if you have a fast single processor CPU, you could be affected.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.29 20:45:00 - [13] It is possible that there are multiple problems with this symptom. One work around that seems to be working for some is to delete your Eve/cache/Browser/Img folder after you login. This folder will be recreated each time you login, and will have to be re-deleted. If you are still experiencing the problem after setting your processor affinity, try this. Nash
NiveaForSoreNobs	Posted - 2006.11.29 20:55:00 - [14] tried the suggested fix, checked all drivers, NOT good at all. Pc crashed 4 times now, i think I've lost BS to npc rats as it just manages to warp back in before crashing again, I know I can petition it and get it replaced....but jesus, crashes this spectacular shouldn't really happen should they?? Its the first time since......windows millenium i can remember things like this happening...
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.29 21:01:00 - [15] Originally by: NiveaForSoreNobs tried the suggested fix, checked all drivers, NOT good at all. Pc crashed 4 times now, i think I've lost BS to npc rats as it just manages to warp back in before crashing again, I know I can petition it and get it replaced....but jesus, crashes this spectacular shouldn't really happen should they?? Its the first time since......windows millenium i can remember things like this happening... Could you clarify what happens when you crash? Is it your whole PC that crashes, or does Eve just dump to the desktop? If none of the work arounds work for you, see the sticky on running logserver. If you aren't able to tell what's going on in the generated log file, have someone who can take a look at it to see if the problem can be pinpointed. Nash
NiveaForSoreNobs	Posted - 2006.11.29 21:05:00 - [16] Hi Nash, yes, the PC does a complete restart, just about to look at logserver...oncei've figured out how, will post soon, thx.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.29 21:08:00 - [17] Unfortunately I don't think logserver will help you if you're restarting, since you need to save the file to look at it. If the computer is bluescreening before restarting then you could look at the crash dump for an idea of what's going on, but if it's just a restart the problem will likely be quite hard to troubleshoot. Nash
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.29 21:11:00 - [18] Originally by: Nash Wraithwind Unfortunately I don't think logserver will help you if you're restarting, since you need to save the file to look at it. If the computer is bluescreening before restarting then you could look at the crash dump for an idea of what's going on, but if it's just a restart the problem will likely be quite hard to troubleshoot. Nash I'm convinced that this is a multithreading problem. Someone needs to go through the code now and look at how timers are handled.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.29 21:18:00 - [19] If this were a simple multithreading problem and nothing else, then it would be resolved by running on a single processor. However, for some this fix doesn't work at all, and for others it only lessens the effect. This points to something else as the culprit, or to multiple culprits causing similar symptoms. As for you Nivea, while not a totally hopeless situation, the possibility for finding a work around seems grim. The best I can think of to do is try changing things, lots of things. Try with all kinds of settings in different modes. The best you can do without a source of debugging information is to try to narrow down what is causing the problem. When the computer reboots, is there a very quick bluescreen as it dies? If there is then you can take some steps to dig through the crash dump. I don't think a dump will be generated though if that bluescreen doesn't flash up. Nash
NiveaForSoreNobs	Posted - 2006.11.29 21:21:00 - [20] Hi Nash, your right, I've tried running the log server but as its not even bluescreening I'm not even getting the chance to look at it.....hopefully they'll come up with a fix quite soon. thx for the advice tho Nash :)

NiveaForSoreNobs	Posted - 2006.11.29 21:57:00 - [21] CCP, I know its early days yet, but anyone have any clue when a fix would appear?
Matalino Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.29 22:16:00 - [22] Originally by: NiveaForSoreNobs Hi Nash, your right, I've tried running the log server but as its not even bluescreening I'm not even getting the chance to look at it.....hopefully they'll come up with a fix quite soon. thx for the advice tho Nash :) If you are not seeing a blue screen when XP unexpectedly reboots it could be because of XP's blue screen settings. Check System Control Panel -> Advanced tab, Startup and Recovery Settings button. If the under System failure section the option for Automatically restart is set and Write debug information is set such that it is not dumping a large amount of data then the blue screen might not be shown long enough for you to see it. Clearing the Automatically restart option will allow you to see the blue screen, not that it will actually fix the problem.
FinalFlash84	Posted - 2006.11.29 22:22:00 - [23] Edited by: FinalFlash84 on 29/11/2006 22:23:14 Well, i hope that CCP will fix this problem soon. I have a Core2Duo and it crashes, if i want to fight with NPC (doing kill missions). It restarts without a bluescreen. On my Notebook with Intel Pentium 4, it wokrs fine. I hope, that CCP will fix this problem as soon as possible, cause it ain't playable as it is right now.
Borasao	Posted - 2006.11.29 22:31:00 - [24] I have an X2 and haven't seen this problem, but I haven't run any missions yet or been in a high population system. This sounds very much like the same issue from over a year ago for which AMD released a patch (which anyone who games and has an AMD X2 should already have installed).
Razir	Posted - 2006.11.29 22:38:00 - [25] Turned off dual core and my computer is still crashing to desktop after warping in to the stargate. Computer will crash to desktop at the character selection screen sometimes. I have a Dell Latitude D620 laptop. I did a fresh install of the game with no luck. Hope they fix this soon cause I like this game.
ALUN Minmatar	Posted - 2006.11.29 22:47:00 - [26] Having same prob now too I havnt got a dual core , and my proc is under 2ghz , just get a ctd when about to jump through a jump gate , and every login there after it will ctd within 5 secs. No Blue screens Have deleted cache folder , no avail. SPECS: AMD Barton XP 2500 @1800mhz Gforce 4 Ti4200 64mb Win XP Pro SP2 DirectX 9.c Sound disabled in Eve ------------------------------------------ You are trying to post to a locked thread CONCORD has been notified
Mortmal	Posted - 2006.11.29 22:56:00 - [27] i have dual core , 975 chipset and realtek audio.. now what is causing the crash. I ve set affinity to one core only , it dont work , now i am trying with audio off it seems stable for now , but ccp should really fix this , i prefer playing with sounds on.
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:06:00 - [28] Edited by: HankMurphy on 29/11/2006 23:07:18 yeah, this is bad no fix i try seems to do anything. I'm somewhat discouraged as, though CCP has acknowledged this is an issue the way they worded it, it sounds like 'directx issue' means something WE need to do to fix this. I'd like a followup from CCP confirming this is serverside and they are working to resolve it. They know its an issue... yet the whole "no eta on this issue" doesn't sound good. I hope this isn't going to the back burner... or to say, i hope this is at the top of their list. They said they had an army of programmers on thisI spent last night troubleshooting for hours and i'll be dammed if i'm gonna spend anymore time on it. not to be 'that guy' but i do pay for this service. i'm not going to re-do my whole **** system to try and make eve run. its not my system its the client. I have a half dozen other directx 9c games that run fine no matter my settings (hardware and soft) and i've NEVER had an issue running eve in my last 2+whatever years. EVER. giving it 3 days. if i cant log on after that... not sure what i'm gonna do, what i'm not gonna do is wait 2 weeks till i can play eve again.not real happy i cant get on for longer than 2 seconds. no changing skills, no communication w/ my corp members (those that aren't crashing to desktop)..... edit: no dual proc here, only emulated hyperthreading and thats turned off, so no process affinities to set , i'm sure there may be a dual proc issue.... but the CTD's at stargates issue goes deeper than that
ALUN Minmatar	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:10:00 - [29] found a temp fix in THIS THREAD and i can confirm it works for now. Basically 1) Rename your eve/cache/browser/img folder to anything, i use abc. 2) Open eve 3) Delete newly created img folder 4) Login 5) Voila, no crashing. Just delete the img folder it creates on each login. Worked for me , sux i know having to do this at every login. ------------------------------------------ You are trying to post to a locked thread CONCORD has been notified
DeWieKat Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:13:00 - [30] Edited by: DeWieKat on 29/11/2006 23:13:51

Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:50:00 - [31] Originally by: Matalino If you are not seeing a blue screen when XP unexpectedly reboots it could be because of XP's blue screen settings. Check System Control Panel -> Advanced tab, Startup and Recovery Settings button. If the under System failure section the option for Automatically restart is set and Write debug information is set such that it is not dumping a large amount of data then the blue screen might not be shown long enough for you to see it. Clearing the Automatically restart option will allow you to see the blue screen, not that it will actually fix the problem. I know you don't need the whole crash dump to be written to disk. I was having a problem with my computer and it was only flickering the bluescreen up for a split second before rebooting. This is what I was referring to. I'm not sure what my setting was, as I don't have access to that computer at the moment. In any case the tiny crash dump generated during this bluescreen flicker is probably enough to help. Nash
Elle D Caldari Ars Caelestis	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:52:00 - [32] Originally by: ALUN found a temp fix in THIS THREAD and i can confirm it works for now. Basically 1) Rename your eve/cache/browser/img folder to anything, i use abc. 2) Open eve 3) Delete newly created img folder 4) Login 5) Voila, no crashing. Just delete the img folder it creates on each login. Yes, that works for me. I have an AMD Athlon64 3200+ Venice core (not dual core) and the client was crashing me to desktop upon arrival at a gate. Thanks dude!
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:52:00 - [33] Originally by: Mortmal i have dual core , 975 chipset and realtek audio.. now what is causing the crash. I ve set affinity to one core only , it dont work , now i am trying with audio off it seems stable for now , but ccp should really fix this , i prefer playing with sounds on. I've seen a couple posts that seem to indicate Realtek audio has an issue. I THINK I remember seeing something about just changing the sound acceleration fixing it which may let you play with sound, you'd have to look around.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.29 23:53:00 - [34] Edited by: Nash Wraithwind on 29/11/2006 23:54:22 Die double post, just die
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 00:05:00 - [35] Originally by: HankMurphy Edited by: HankMurphy on 29/11/2006 23:07:18 yeah, this is bad no fix i try seems to do anything. I'm somewhat discouraged as, though CCP has acknowledged this is an issue the way they worded it, it sounds like 'directx issue' means something WE need to do to fix this. I'd like a followup from CCP confirming this is serverside and they are working to resolve it. They know its an issue... yet the whole "no eta on this issue" doesn't sound good. I hope this isn't going to the back burner... or to say, i hope this is at the top of their list. They said they had an army of programmers on thisI spent last night troubleshooting for hours and i'll be dammed if i'm gonna spend anymore time on it. not to be 'that guy' but i do pay for this service. i'm not going to re-do my whole **** system to try and make eve run. its not my system its the client. I have a half dozen other directx 9c games that run fine no matter my settings (hardware and soft) and i've NEVER had an issue running eve in my last 2+whatever years. EVER. giving it 3 days. if i cant log on after that... not sure what i'm gonna do, what i'm not gonna do is wait 2 weeks till i can play eve again.not real happy i cant get on for longer than 2 seconds. no changing skills, no communication w/ my corp members (those that aren't crashing to desktop)..... edit: no dual proc here, only emulated hyperthreading and thats turned off, so no process affinities to set , i'm sure there may be a dual proc issue.... but the CTD's at stargates issue goes deeper than that Have you tried deleting the cache/browser/img folder AFTER you log in? Do you reboot, or drop to desktop? If you drop to desktop, run logserver and get a log of the crash. It can help you or your chosen technically inclined friend track down the problem and work around it.
VulkanXx Minmatar Cryo Crypt inc. FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.30 00:06:00 - [36] This problem is not only related to dual cores, as i'm getting it and i'm running an AMD Athlon 64 3500+
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2006.11.30 00:15:00 - [37] Originally by: Nash Wraithwind Have you tried deleting the cache/browser/img folder AFTER you log in? Do you reboot, or drop to desktop? If you drop to desktop, run logserver and get a log of the crash. It can help you or your chosen technically inclined friend track down the problem and work around it. deleting after login? no, i guess i'll try that when i get off work i CTD, no reboot. just about everything suggested (except above) was suggested last night and none seemed to fix or temp fix. Originally by: HankMurphy no idea if this helps.....[log server] self destination path 0 is solarstystemid: %s [30002510, 30002509, 30002508, 30000037, 30000036, 30000035, 30000114, 30000117, 30000943, 30000942, 30000903, 30000902, 30000901, 30000923, 30000920, 30000924, 30000921, 30001020, 30001016, 30001018, 3000102 -------------------- and... - 1, 30001032, 30001031, 30001029] ^^ top two are red flagged events upon loading after char selection. last thing i see before crash is yellow flagged... ReadEvent::HandleEvent(0,0)
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 00:26:00 - [38] Originally by: HankMurphy deleting after login? no, i guess i'll try that when i get off work i CTD, no reboot. just about everything suggested (except above) was suggested last night and none seemed to fix or temp fix. Originally by: HankMurphy ^^ top two are red flagged events upon loading after char selection. last thing i see before crash is yellow flagged... ReadEvent::HandleEvent(0,0) If that's the last thing you see your issue might be different. The guy's log I was looking at to help him track down this problem had 2 lines of Open C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/cache/Browser/Img/12809300651415711116.jpeg at the end, right after the HandleEvent(0,0) call. This, in conjunction with some forum posts, is what led me to believe that deleting the img folder (remember, AFTER login) might help. Also, that img folder will be recreated every time you log in, so you will have to keep deleting it. Nash
Eowarebin Ginen Minmatar La Famiglia Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.30 00:42:00 - [39] Hello, i'm having the same issues that alot of u r having. I CTD at stargates. Awefully **** annoying !! My system is made up of: AMD XP 2600+ 1.9Ghz XFX 6800 Extreme 256Mb 1Gb DDR3200 Windows XP Home w/ SP2 downloaded and installed As a temp fix i have done the Eve>Cache>Browser>rename and delete image file delete and it is working fine so far. Been on 10 minutes straight which seems to be a record now. I tried installing all the new drivers for my Vid card, re-installing the client, making sure DX9c was installed and nothing else worked. I sure hope CCP gets this problem fixed soon cause it is a pain in the @$$ to delete this file everytime i want to log in. Thanks http://members.cox.net/s.wedge/images/EveSigLaFamiglia.jpg Signature dimensions exceeds max 400x120 dimensions allowed. Mail us if you have any questions -Eldo
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 01:08:00 - [40] Originally by: Eowarebin Ginen Hello, i'm having the same issues that alot of u r having. I CTD at stargates. Awefully **** annoying !! My system is made up of: AMD XP 2600+ 1.9Ghz XFX 6800 Extreme 256Mb 1Gb DDR3200 Windows XP Home w/ SP2 downloaded and installed As a temp fix i have done the Eve>Cache>Browser>rename and delete image file delete and it is working fine so far. Been on 10 minutes straight which seems to be a record now. I tried installing all the new drivers for my Vid card, re-installing the client, making sure DX9c was installed and nothing else worked. I sure hope CCP gets this problem fixed soon cause it is a pain in the @$$ to delete this file everytime i want to log in. Thanks Just feel lucky you're able to use that work around. The guys who have a computer reboot instead of crash to desktop can't work around the problem at all. Nash

Mhormal Amarr Ordo Adeptus Astartes Novus Ordos Seclorum	Posted - 2006.11.30 01:43:00 - [41] Edited by: Mhormal on 30/11/2006 01:43:11 just checked without sound or hardware acceleration disabled it still crash. It was working before revelation , so i, can assume its not my system fault. I am not in mood to try workaround like deleting the cache folder EACH TIME i want to go through a gate.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 01:48:00 - [42] Originally by: Mhormal Edited by: Mhormal on 30/11/2006 01:43:11 just checked without sound or hardware acceleration disabled it still crash. It was working before revelation , so i, can assume its not my system fault. I am not in mood to try workaround like deleting the cache folder EACH TIME i want to go through a gate. It's only the cache/browser/img folder, not the entire cache folder, and it's only AFTER you log in, each time you log in. The specifics are important. Nash
Pa'ax	Posted - 2006.11.30 03:28:00 - [43] Edited by: Pa''ax on 30/11/2006 03:32:28 not AMD, not Dual-Core, not nVidia did reduce sound card hardware acceleration, did delete Img folder after starting game, before logging on stalled at jump gate -- didn't exactly crash, but can't do anything. turned off autopilot and tried to jump, says "autopilot is busy" or something Logserver popped out: 206842006.11.30 03:21:19:447Alert: Unexpected error during mailqueue processing Update: just happened again: 64602006.11.30 03:29:06:644Alert: Unexpected error during mailqueue processing 64612006.11.30 03:29:06:674Alert: Stopping Mail Queue thread Um, stopping the thread would be bad, right?
Myrkr Var	Posted - 2006.11.30 05:03:00 - [44] I was having the same problem, crashing on exit from warp at stargates. Tried turning sound off to no avail. the renaming of the img folder after log in has worked for about 3 min so far... fingers crossed. My specs: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual 4600+ GeForce 7600 GT Win XP Pro SP2 Latest DirectX release/Vid drivers
Starbucc	Posted - 2006.11.30 05:37:00 - [45] Another one here with the 'reset' problem after the patch. No BSOD, just a system reboot. Sys - XP sp2, Biostar MB 965 chipset, Pent D 805 CPU (dual Core), 2GB geil DDR, 7800GT, Realtech onboard sound. I have tried several of the fixes here and no joy. Almost an instant reset maybe 30 sec after NPCs (rats) appears in a belt, not the only time a reset happens but the only time it happens EVERY time for me Sure hope it gets addressed quickly.
Kritinana	Posted - 2006.11.30 05:41:00 - [46] Same stuff here pretty much. Market will not work, in any region. Cannot dock and/or jump without having to log out. it doesn't crash, it just sits there and does nothing. Or in the case of gates puts me in jump queue after my ships already jumped, an i'm left sitting there staring at the gate untill i decide to log. I'm running a dual processor machine (each multithreaded) and set the .exe file to only 1 thread. have tried deleting the image folder on logins, deleting the entire cache, and reinstalling to the d drive. None have made any difference. ccp - fix pls, kthxbye
Equipment Warehouse	Posted - 2006.11.30 06:41:00 - [47] Can I offer a suggestion? There was an issue surrounding dual core processors last year; namely the stuttering gameplay. This was also resolved with setting processor afinity, etc. However, it was also solved by using a patch from Microsoft, or by installing the later AMD dual core optimiser for gaming. AMD Download Page My last install was a few months ago, but I installed the AMD drivers from scratch. I have to say, I have noted no problems at all with either the beta versions OR with the newly installed client as regards CTD's. If this is a problem for you, can I suggest using the AMD drivers? EW
Juggernautus	Posted - 2006.11.30 07:01:00 - [48] This not funny anymore pay good money to play this game and it crash around 40 time on me not really sure anymore.And my skills are done to by now.I have a AMD 2.5 processors no dual so i can not run one processors.plus a ATI radeon 9600 256mb.I have the new update from DirectX.So get to work CCP pls. try to fix it.One more thing what in the hell is a hidden in staller came up when i was up done when the update was done?
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2006.11.30 07:20:00 - [49] Edited by: HankMurphy on 30/11/2006 07:20:54 O ****ing K so... i finally got the workaround for the CTD at stargate to work. so i can play right? not so much went to dock at a station and my pc shut down windows miraculously recovered my hardrive. i came here to rant, started my post and windows locked up for the FIRST TIME since i built this system many many months ago. pc construction when i was a kid, engineering degree i do the whole IT/networking/product development thing for a global company, and i know bad bad bad code when i see it. i've seen damaging effects of bad code on equipment (very rare but it happens). I'll be dammed if i'm gonna play beta tester for CCP and pay for it. I know, patch day blue. I've played this game for yearS (thats an 's' on the end) and i know all about patch day "blues". I'm not ok w/ patch day "mess w/ hank's PC". no new info from CCP yet either? just 'no eta' and hanging onto that 'dual proc/core' thing. what about dropping a line for all those that are CTDing/rebooting/shutting down that DONT have this hardware??? very disappointed at this point. but i'll give them time to fix it friday night. if there isn't a fix addressing these issues by then, or word from CCP that they KNOW what the issue is and they will have it fixed IN A DEFINATIVE TIME PERIOD... well, guess i'm going to have reached my patience as a long time customer. good luck all o/ , a roll back after ppl deleting their BM's isn't gonna happen. They either gonna make this work or we gonna be paying for a couple more months of testing and searching for the problem. I've done my share of that in the past, but this may be the perverbial straw....
Panthrax Gallente	Posted - 2006.11.30 07:53:00 - [50] I've been having a few problems with the CTD, where the game just shuts down for no reason, mostly after jumping into a new system. It would happen again and again until I rebooted, and then it seemed to work fine for the rest of the night. I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+, but I only recently updated my BIOS so that it would recognise my CPU properly so that I was able to use the dual-core function. I also installed the AMD cpu drivers a few weeks before that. It was only after I updated the BIOS and started using the dual-core that I started getting this problem. Haven't had any problems with sound. I use an Audigy 4, not realtek. I'll give this AMD Dual-Core Optimizer a try and see if it happens again. Also, this started a few weeks ago, before the update, so it wasn't because of that. I haven't undocked yet since the patch, so I don't know if it's still an issue since the update. It is kinda scary if you jump into a system with campers, only for the game to crash and then you to be warped back to the gate when you relogin.. Hasn't happened yet, but it wouldn't be fun..

Jade Hawk	Posted - 2006.11.30 08:21:00 - [51] Quote: found a temp fix in THIS THREAD and i can confirm it works for now. Basically 1) Rename your eve/cache/browser/img folder to anything, i use abc. 2) Open eve 3) Delete newly created img folder 4) Login 5) Voila, no crashing. Just delete the img folder it creates on each login. Can confirm works for me. Intel 3g HT CPU
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2006.11.30 09:28:00 - [52] hmmm... i did notice no matter the settings/options, my FPS is incredibly low for a geforce 6800. like nothing above 18fps (jinkies Scoob, a clue!) ... sry, forums make me drink faster than being in-game
FinalFlash84	Posted - 2006.11.30 12:37:00 - [53] Originally by: Starbucc Another one here with the 'reset' problem after the patch. No BSOD, just a system reboot. Sys - XP sp2, Biostar MB 965 chipset, Pent D 805 CPU (dual Core), 2GB geil DDR, 7800GT, Realtech onboard sound. I have tried several of the fixes here and no joy. Almost an instant reset maybe 30 sec after NPCs (rats) appears in a belt, not the only time a reset happens but the only time it happens EVERY time for me Sure hope it gets addressed quickly. Hi, my system is mostly the same like yours and i have the problem, too. Since i turned the ingame Sound off, Eve didn't crash. So i think, there's a problem with Realtech soundchips. Bye
NiveaForSoreNobs	Posted - 2006.11.30 13:22:00 - [54] hi again. tried the img folder fix, turned off sound, installed latest drivers for graphic card, cleared the cache...and it sort of works....very slow, still crashing, but not crashing the whole PC anymore. Weird thing now is, when I click on Eve to start it up, all my PC fans turn up to full throttle.....
Sir Erighan Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.30 13:29:00 - [55] The game freezes on me when jumping at gates as well. I don't have a dual core either. I have a P4 2.8, ATI X800 Pro, and Intel MB. Is there a fix that doesn't envolve deleting files every time I jump into a new system? Sorry, but that's a little ridiculous to have to do something like that. Please, CCP post a response as soon as possible.
Avanamantio	Posted - 2006.11.30 13:43:00 - [56] Ill be installing a dual core CPU on my comp, so ill chceck on the issue. But anyways if the deleting of the img folder helps, but it gets recreated, maybe someone might try disabling the rights to write in the folder \img. So nothing would be created there. Its just an idea - might work but might aswell prevent the game from loading :D But if it works its a one-time operation.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 14:19:00 - [57] Originally by: Juggernautus This not funny anymore pay good money to play this game and it crash around 40 time on me not really sure anymore.And my skills are done to by now.I have a AMD 2.5 processors no dual so i can not run one processors.plus a ATI radeon 9600 256mb.I have the new update from DirectX.So get to work CCP pls. try to fix it.One more thing what in the hell is a hidden in staller came up when i was up done when the update was done? It was just a cmd window, it's nothing to worry about. You're going to have to be more specific about exactly what your problem is and which steps you've tried to resolve it before anyone can help you. Nash
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 14:21:00 - [58] Originally by: Panthrax I've been having a few problems with the CTD, where the game just shuts down for no reason, mostly after jumping into a new system. It would happen again and again until I rebooted, and then it seemed to work fine for the rest of the night. I have an AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+, but I only recently updated my BIOS so that it would recognise my CPU properly so that I was able to use the dual-core function. I also installed the AMD cpu drivers a few weeks before that. It was only after I updated the BIOS and started using the dual-core that I started getting this problem. Haven't had any problems with sound. I use an Audigy 4, not realtek. I'll give this AMD Dual-Core Optimizer a try and see if it happens again. Also, this started a few weeks ago, before the update, so it wasn't because of that. I haven't undocked yet since the patch, so I don't know if it's still an issue since the update. It is kinda scary if you jump into a system with campers, only for the game to crash and then you to be warped back to the gate when you relogin.. Hasn't happened yet, but it wouldn't be fun.. Your problem will probably be solved by deleting the Img folder after you log in. Nash
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 14:23:00 - [59] Originally by: NiveaForSoreNobs hi again. tried the img folder fix, turned off sound, installed latest drivers for graphic card, cleared the cache...and it sort of works....very slow, still crashing, but not crashing the whole PC anymore. Weird thing now is, when I click on Eve to start it up, all my PC fans turn up to full throttle..... If you've managed to keep it from rebooting, go for logserver. The fan thing is a little weird, but if they're on an "auto" setting for speed you could be running hot for some reason. Nash
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 14:24:00 - [60] Originally by: Sir Erighan The game freezes on me when jumping at gates as well. I don't have a dual core either. I have a P4 2.8, ATI X800 Pro, and Intel MB. Is there a fix that doesn't envolve deleting files every time I jump into a new system? Sorry, but that's a little ridiculous to have to do something like that. Please, CCP post a response as soon as possible. You only need to delete the Img folder after you log in, not every time you jump into a system. It's only a temporary work around until the issue is resolved. Nash

Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 14:26:00 - [61] Originally by: Avanamantio Ill be installing a dual core CPU on my comp, so ill chceck on the issue. But anyways if the deleting of the img folder helps, but it gets recreated, maybe someone might try disabling the rights to write in the folder \img. So nothing would be created there. Its just an idea - might work but might aswell prevent the game from loading :D But if it works its a one-time operation. I thought about it, but since I'm not experiencing the problem myself it would be hard for me to test. Also, telling someone to delete the folder is much easier than explaining how to set the permissions up. Nash
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 14:43:00 - [62] Originally by: Mhormal I had the same problem , reboot and windows recovering from a critical error , its also the first time it happened on my system , and off course nothing like that happened before revelation.I dont want to break my new PC cause of CCP bad coding And no ETA on this , thats is really worrying , eve is completely unplayable in this state. OK, this goes for any of you experiencing a reboot followed by a "Windows has recovered from a serious error" popup. If you get this popup, do not click any of the buttons. Look for a link that lets you see technical details. I'm going from memory here so bear with me. Somewhere on there there should be something that lets you see a list of files (the crash dump files) located in your Temp directory. Once you've found this, check out this article on WinDbg. This is a tool for Windows that will let you look at the crash file. The article claims your crash dump file may be in a directory other than Temp, but last time I had a crash I found the dump file there. After you get WinDbg set up (including the part about the symbols), you can open the crash dump file that you found and analyze it. Hopefully, this will give you the name of a module that caused the problem. Look for something like the process name that generated the exception, as well as the exception number and associated codes for additional information. Post what you find if you're not sure what to do with it. Nash
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.11.30 14:58:00 - [63] If you're going to blame anyone, blame Microsoft for providing a threading model that is making idiotic assumptions about the underlying hardware. They provide the OS and the libraries to people who write code - who then make the assumption that the threading model is safe. This is noted in at least TWO Microsoft tech bulletins - even THEY know it's a problem. It's a problem with Call of Duty 2 - and Microsoft wrote that game. Sit down for a minute, and stop blaming CCP.
NiveaForSoreNobs	Posted - 2006.11.30 15:29:00 - [64] Nash, gonna run the server log tonight. Just wanted to say thanks for all the help mate, you've been very helpful (CCP please note....the word was 'helpful', try googling it )
Roy Gordon	Posted - 2006.11.30 16:45:00 - [65] I think this is a reoccurrence of the sound card problem which affected some players, including myself. Try going into windows and changing the soundcard acceleration to either low or off. This cured the problem for me. That which does not kill us makes us stronger. The Universe is ruled by three basic principles- Matter, Energy and Enlightened Self-Interest!
NikeTyler	Posted - 2006.11.30 19:12:00 - [66] I had the sameish problem...... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=434330&page=1
Cockroach Amarr Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.30 19:46:00 - [67] i'm using 2400 mhz dual core proc on a K9N ultra mb with a Nvidia GeForce 7950 GT graphics card using win XP Pro OS. Ive tried pretty much everything now (deleting the caches, changing affinity on the proc, dl latest patches, turn off sound etc etc) nothing seems to fix the problem. I crash to desktop pretty much randomly jumping thru a gate or opening up the map, pretty much impossible to play the game now without risking losing ships i'm even considering trying to salvage my old machine from the skip to play Eve on i hope this gets fixed by CCP if possible with a patch or maybe microsoft could get their heads out of their backsides to resolve this.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 20:01:00 - [68] Originally by: Cockroach i'm using 2400 mhz dual core proc on a K9N ultra mb with a Nvidia GeForce 7950 GT graphics card using win XP Pro OS. Ive tried pretty much everything now (deleting the caches, changing affinity on the proc, dl latest patches, turn off sound etc etc) nothing seems to fix the problem. I crash to desktop pretty much randomly jumping thru a gate or opening up the map, pretty much impossible to play the game now without risking losing ships i'm even considering trying to salvage my old machine from the skip to play Eve on i hope this gets fixed by CCP if possible with a patch or maybe microsoft could get their heads out of their backsides to resolve this. Check out logserver. Your problem sounds like it's different from what most people are suffering from if you crash opening up the map. Logserver will give you some more info on what's causing it and might let you get around it till they fix it. Nash
Insomnious Gallente ReD eYe Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.30 20:16:00 - [69] A friend of mine has compiled an app using Delphi, that automatically starts EVE and deletes Img folder. So now i'm free from doing it every time manually. Well, if anybody wants, i can put it to EVE-files.com or somewhere else... Antyspy testing is welcome...
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 20:44:00 - [70] Originally by: Insomnious A friend of mine has compiled an app using Delphi, that automatically starts EVE and deletes Img folder. So now i'm free from doing it every time manually. Well, if anybody wants, i can put it to EVE-files.com or somewhere else... Antyspy testing is welcome... Hmm, I was under the impression that the folder was created after you actually log in. I'd never had a reason to test it myself until now, but it seems it is only after you start Eve. Good to know. I believe an application like that should have no need of accessing the internet, so anti-spy testing could be done just by running it and seeing if a firewall detects it accessing the net. Also, be sure it doesn't keep running in the background after launching Eve - should take care of the biggest concerns. Nash

Part Troll	Posted - 2006.11.30 20:51:00 - [71] I can get the orriginal fix to work, can someone explain what you have to do again more simply please. I either get an error when trying to put in the new target and when i run the program a black box comes up for about 1/4 of a second, it looks like command prompt but its to quick.
Cockroach Amarr Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:01:00 - [72] Well here's the last 4 lines from my log server when my Eve client just crashed again whilst trying to jump thru a gate.....hope it makes more sense to you guys than what it does to me... 976972006.11.30 20:50:59:080Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump being written in C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.11.30 20.50.58.dmp 976982006.11.30 20:50:59:170Loaded C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/bin/DBGHELP.DLL 976992006.11.30 20:50:59:145MiniDump generated: C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.11.30 20.50.58.dmp 977002006.11.30 20:50:59:145Exefile SHUTDOWN Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump written in C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.11.30 20.50.58.dmp
Whitesilk	Posted - 2006.11.30 21:55:00 - [73] Well, I've tried everyone suggetions. I delete cache, still CTD when jumping. I log on turn sound off, still CTD. I delete .img, still CTD. I turn off sound in game, still CTD. I download suggested files, DirectX, AMD(sp), and yes CTD. NOW I log on and CTD within the span of 2-3 seconds, and I don't have the time to do anything. I just see the ship coming to a stop and then I CTD. And I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this. What did they do different with Revelations, that they didn't do w/RMR? And why is this only happening to a select few and not everyone? I'd luv to know what others are using that makes this game work w/o all this headache. Well, the point is if this doesn't become a "HIGH level issue" soon. I am going to leave the game.
Cornellius Eki	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:12:00 - [74] I solved it by temp method. I have hyper-threaded computer and CTD while close the gate. And everytime I logged in CTD after 3-4 seconds. After read this suggestions; I connected to EVE. Alt-Tab to switch window and deleted the Img folder. (which is ..\CCP\EVE\cache\Browser\Img) Returned to EVE Client, selected my char and logged in. And played like the days before Revelations. I will use this temp solutions and I hope they fix it soon. Have fun
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:14:00 - [75] Originally by: Cockroach Well here's the last 4 lines from my log server when my Eve client just crashed again whilst trying to jump thru a gate.....hope it makes more sense to you guys than what it does to me... 976972006.11.30 20:50:59:080Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump being written in C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.11.30 20.50.58.dmp 976982006.11.30 20:50:59:170Loaded C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/bin/DBGHELP.DLL 976992006.11.30 20:50:59:145MiniDump generated: C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.11.30 20.50.58.dmp 977002006.11.30 20:50:59:145Exefile SHUTDOWN Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump written in C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.11.30 20.50.58.dmp You can try using WinDbg as I mentioned here to analyze that dump file. Once you get WinDbg set up with the symbols and everything, open the .dmp file and type !analyze -v into the command box. Hopefully you'll get the name of the driver/module responsible for your error. Also, take a look at the lines immediately proceeding the lines you quoted from your logserver log. Chances are whatever actually caused the error is there. Nash
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:15:00 - [76] Originally by: Whitesilk Well, I've tried everyone suggetions. I delete cache, still CTD when jumping. I log on turn sound off, still CTD. I delete .img, still CTD. I turn off sound in game, still CTD. I download suggested files, DirectX, AMD(sp), and yes CTD. NOW I log on and CTD within the span of 2-3 seconds, and I don't have the time to do anything. I just see the ship coming to a stop and then I CTD. And I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around this. What did they do different with Revelations, that they didn't do w/RMR? And why is this only happening to a select few and not everyone? I'd luv to know what others are using that makes this game work w/o all this headache. Well, the point is if this doesn't become a "HIGH level issue" soon. I am going to leave the game. What are the last lines of your logserver log?
JoCool Caldari Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:17:00 - [77] I have an intel dual core 2 6600 and get crashes regularly on jump, even if EVE is set to a single core. I don't have this with any other game, any idea what else there could be? Maybe EVE is just bugged _______________________________________________________________________ Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool
Insomnious Gallente ReD eYe Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:19:00 - [78] Placed the file under http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Insomnious/EVE_Loader.zip Don't forget to view Readme.txt before using.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:23:00 - [79] An alternative to deleting the Img folder suggested in another thread by a helpful poster was to right click the folder and select "Properties", then uncheck "Read-Only". If it works you probably wont have to delete the folder. Nash
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:25:00 - [80] Originally by: JoCool Edited by: JoCool on 30/11/2006 22:20:19 I have an intel dual core 2 6600 and get crashes regularly on jump, even if EVE is set to a single core. I don't have this with any other game, any idea what else there could be? Maybe EVE is just bugged I'm trying the img folder deletion as well as the sound thing Last lines of logserver, please. Nash

NikeTyler	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:35:00 - [81] Thx cornellious Your fix TEMP seems to work for me too..... wow that was annoying !
NikeTyler	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:42:00 - [82] dissmiss that last post ! It still crashes !
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:43:00 - [83] would like to see an update from ccp on this issue. over 48 hours after the fact and many ppl at the point of being absolutely unplayable / unaccessable 'no eta' just aint cutting my pie anymore
ThrudUK	Posted - 2006.11.30 22:56:00 - [84] This really is VERY frustrating.... Revelations looks like it contains some great features, but it not running properly on Dual Core PC's when the previous build did is a major issue. I for one would put this sort of "bug" at the very top of the list over something like changing the requirement to use a salvager module ;)
Ander Zeiss Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2006.11.30 23:00:00 - [85] I have also tried every suggestion on the boards and I am still crashing as well. Sure would be nice to get an update on this from CCP.
El Skarbarello	Posted - 2006.11.30 23:05:00 - [86] I can't belive that bug like this even is in the new patch. How this was not noticed. It sucks even more because i just payed my account active after two weeks of trial playing, when i did not have any proplems. Just my luck.
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2006.11.30 23:16:00 - [87] Originally by: ThrudUK This really is VERY frustrating.... Revelations looks like it contains some great features, but it not running properly on Dual Core PC's when the previous build did is a major issue. I for one would put this sort of "bug" at the very top of the list over something like changing the requirement to use a salvager module ;) well, while i'm sure there IS a dual core issue. It goes much deeper than that. MANY people w/ totally unrelated hardware are having these issues as well, and there has not been one mention of THOSE ppls problems in the 'known issues' thread. i think aside from the crashing/reboots ETC there is an underlying issue of client really sucking up resources too. ppl reporting low fps, very high temperatures.... alot going on here its really unlikely there is one underlying issue here. just praying they at least have an idea of what the problem is (thus the begging for some new word!). I see plenty of other 'fun' posts from devs today and yesturday on new videos and such. I'm not doubting they are busy, but i would think a few lines of consolation for us (or maybe a technical update? !?!) might be in order after this period of time
ThrudUK	Posted - 2006.11.30 23:29:00 - [88] Edited by: ThrudUK on 30/11/2006 23:29:00 Originally by: HankMurphy Originally by: ThrudUK This really is VERY frustrating.... Revelations looks like it contains some great features, but it not running properly on Dual Core PC's when the previous build did is a major issue. I for one would put this sort of "bug" at the very top of the list over something like changing the requirement to use a salvager module ;) well, while i'm sure there IS a dual core issue. It goes much deeper than that. MANY people w/ totally unrelated hardware are having these issues as well, and there has not been one mention of THOSE ppls problems in the 'known issues' thread. i think aside from the crashing/reboots ETC there is an underlying issue of client really sucking up resources too. ppl reporting low fps, very high temperatures.... alot going on here its really unlikely there is one underlying issue here. just praying they at least have an idea of what the problem is (thus the begging for some new word!). I see plenty of other 'fun' posts from devs today and yesturday on new videos and such. I'm not doubting they are busy, but i would think a few lines of consolation for us (or maybe a technical update? !?!) might be in order after this period of time Come to mention it, the game does seem to be making my fan kick in more now. I concur with all you said and hope you dont think I am neglecting the feelings of those without Dual Core and still having problems. It is just frustrating that this is a known issue. But hey, Alliance Tournament this weekend... that will be funny if teams keep CTDing ;)
Zeko Rena	Posted - 2006.12.01 00:03:00 - [89] Does anyone know if a "AMD TurionÖ 64 Mobile ML40 2.2GHz 800MHz FSB 1MB L2 Cache" will have any problems with EVE, i had a quick flick threw the thread and didnt see it come up, just wondering cause im getting an expensive Alienware laptop within a week hopefully and am hoping EVE will run fine on it lol
ALUN Minmatar	Posted - 2006.12.01 00:58:00 - [90] I FIXED the promlem without having to delete the img folder at every login. This MAY ONLY WORK for those that are having the SPECIFIC ISSUE of ctd's at jumpgates. This problem is NOT hardware related ... (think we already figured that out) BACKGROUND OBSERVATIONS: .. I have 2 Seperate eve installations on the same hdd, same comp ofc. both eve accounts(folders) were patched with the same 1 patch which was downloaded manually. 1st account gets the ctd's at jump gates and known fix is to delete img folder after login screen appears and works again ok till next loggin. (rinse and repeat etc.) 2nd account , did not have the ctd problem at all. Both accounts running on same comp, from same hdd, just different directory locations. To cut a long story short , i did some monitoring of what is actually happening to the img folder when ingame , WHEN you jump to a jumpgate the images on the BILLBOARD at the gate get put into this IMG folder (would presume for quick retrieval of same img at other billboards) THE TEST: i cut and pasted the working eve's img folder to the ctd eve's browser folder. AND , Eve ran fine .. no ctd's anymore on the bad eve. I then studied what was different about the 2 folders. THE ONLY difference was a file in the good eve's img folder called INDEX.DAT . The index.dat file was not present in the ctd Eve installation. THE SOLUTION: i simply copied and pasted the index.dat file from the good eve version's img folder and put it straight into the bad eve versions img folder. Voila , eve works without a CTD at jumpgates. CONCLUSION: Once The index.dat file is located in the img folder your comp registers its location and from then on Eve works fine. You can even totally delete the img folder again and let eve create a new img folder at startup , and Eve will still work , once u get near to a jumpgate and/or jump through your comp automatically creates the index.dat file again in that folder. Seems as tho if indexing is turned on in windows and u get to a jumpgate and eve places images into the img folder from the billboard and no index.dat file is present then it will CTD before it can create an index.dat file for that folder. Since i did this fix i cannot even create the ctd scenario anymore, just doesnt happen. This is my findings and i hope it helps some ppl to fix thier similar problem. I cannot gaurantee this will work on anyone else's computer or on any other different problems like the dual-core thing. And , apart from how i was lucky enough to have 2 seperate eve installations and one of them worked fine, im not 100% sure if an index.dat file from a totally different location would solve the problem or even if turning OFF the windows indexing service would similerly solve the problem, i cant create the ctd anymore to try out any alternatives. All mentions to the IMG folder in this post are meaning the specific IMG folder located at or in similer locations of C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\cache\Browser\Img MY SPECS: AMD BARTON 2500XP Gforce4 Ti4200 1GB ddr 400 ram WIN XP PRO SP2 ------------------------------------------ You are trying to post to a locked thread CONCORD has been notified

Grez Minmatar The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.12.01 01:05:00 - [91] Edited by: Grez on 01/12/2006 01:05:31 If that's the case, here's my rar'd Index.dat with an image it points too (not sure if it's important or not). http://www.ravenwarriors.com/evepatch/Img.rar --- Cache Clearer Still waiting for a Wrangler-edit!
Brael Wenn	Posted - 2006.12.01 01:23:00 - [92] Edited by: Brael Wenn on 01/12/2006 01:26:11 Edited by: Brael Wenn on 01/12/2006 01:25:13 Time to complicate things even more. I am not suffering from crashing at gates. I AM suffering from random crashes, every 5-30 minutes, and have since the patch. Before the patch I experienced only the usual black screen or once in a few days CTD. I run two accounts, each on a separate pc. The pcs have different hardware, and are routed through a Linksys router, on cable internet. One pc crashes randomly. At the same time the other pc will lock up, and crash as soon as I do anything requiring game information, such as opening my wallet, opening the market, entering text in chat and hitting enter, and so on. Both pcs tend to crash at the same time. The game crashes whether I run straight to the modem or through the router. If I only run the pc that locks up first, without running the one that crashes instead, well, the first one will still lock up every 5-30 minutes. My first thought was my ISP. We've had a cold snap here (down to about 0 F, -22 C, at night), and cables contract in this kind of weather. So my ISP came out, checked the line, redid all the external connectors and filters just in case. The line and my cable modem tested fine before they did this, but they did it as a precaution. The line and modem tested fine afterward. And afterward, the game was doing the same thing. I tried the img fix. I went half an hour and got the old black screen from undocking bug, relogged, but forgot to delete the img folder on one pc. Both pcs crashed 5 minutes after I logged the first pc back in. I did the img delete thing on both, and both pcs have been running the game stably for the past hour and a half. This implies (if not outright states) that those of us who are experiencing random crashes may have the same problem as the gate crashing people. I have not yet tried a mission in the past hour and a half, but I've had both accounts warping around, doing 5-7 route trips, while I browse the market and chat. I've had no problems. Deleting the IMG folder appears to have fixed my crashing problem. Because my crashes are not occuring at gates, I don't necessarily agree that the problem lies in the billboards. I've crashed at gates, and in station, and in missions. However, that the game has been stable on both pcs after deleting the IMG folder tells me something is going wrong regardless of where I am with regard to that folder, and that it seems to be a communication issue between CCP and my cable modem. This is a change that has occured with the patch. So, please stop disregarding people who are having crash problems outside of gate crashing, because their (and my) problem appear to be related, if not the same under different circumstances, as the gate crashers.
Indigo Callypso	Posted - 2006.12.01 02:46:00 - [93] I have the following system: System Manufacturer: GBT___ System Model: AWRDACPI BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.60GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 1024MB RAM Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: GeForce 6600 DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0141&SUBSYS_C3703842&REV_A2 Display Memory: 256.0 MB Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (16 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: NEC AccuSync LCD7V Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024 Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9371 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 10/22/2006 12:22:00, 4527488 bytes WHQL Logo'd: Yes Description: Realtek AC97 Audio Default Sound Playback: Yes Default Voice Playback: Yes Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_266E&SUBSYS_AE011458&REV_03 I was crashing to a reboot at gates before and after jumping among other places. I used the delete img work around and I was able to play with absolutely no problems for the last two hours. I took a 32 jump trip, made some hauling runs for 12 jumps each...no probs. I never did the use one processor fix, the affinity thing. I tried and it said I don't have access...it's my computer, but I am comp illiterate. Just so people know. If you couldn't be bothered to read the gobbledy **** above, (and who could blame you) I have a duo core pentium, and realtek audio...the two kisses of death apparently. Hope this helps someone. Oh yeah...when this first happened to me, I was in that death loop of crashing immediately after logging in...so in frustration, after the next crash to reboot, I played Command and Conquer Generals. I then logged on again and I was able to warp to a gate, jump and then crash....I did it again (played another C&C game) and then logged in. I was able to warp to station and dock. For whatever it's worth.
Quara Terranas	Posted - 2006.12.01 02:53:00 - [94] For dual core users, give this a try: add these two switches to your boot.ini /ONECPU /usepmtimer Mine is: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\win32="Microsoft Windows" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn /ONECPU /usepmtimer This effectively makes windows boot with just one cpu. (check task manager to make sure after reboot) I'm not saying this absolutely will resolve all your issues but so far it has helped me ALOT. Before this I couldn't jump more than 4 jumps without a crash. I've been on autopilot for the past 15 minutes in a rifter jumping all over the place and no crash yet with this change so it seems to have fixed my issues. Only bummer about this change is that the money you spent on a 2nd processor is just sitting there doing absolutely nothing now. Like I said: I'M NOT GUARANTEEING THAT THIS WILL FIX YOUR PROBLEM! But it's a simple change and reboot that will take no more than 5 minutes to test. For anyone that doesn't know how to get to the boot.ini file:(win xp) start -> right click "my computer" -> properties -> click "advanced" tab -> click "settings" button in "startup and Recovery" -> click on "edit" button to open boot.ini in notepad then just add those two switches, save, and reboot. Open task manager to insure only one processor is running and (hopefully) enjoy a less crash-tastic EvE.
Brael Wenn	Posted - 2006.12.01 02:57:00 - [95] After the past 3 hours, I have to say my earlier results may be inconclusive. PC 1 and PC 2 crashed after an hour and 50 minutes. 25 minutes later pc 2 locked up and crashed from the game, but pc 1 was fine. 10 minutes after that both pcs crashed. 5 minutes after that pc 2 locked up and crashed. I gave up after that and logged out on both pcs. It seemed the IMG thing worked, but deleting it again didn't appear to stop me from crashing several times within half an hour, so at this point I have no idea. I do know that I had no problem staying connected on both pcs for hours, before the patch. I also know that my ISP is not the problem. The problem began with the patch. So, instead of leaving things as they were, CCP apparently slipped in something for the servers, like they did in February, when hundreds of us were crashing (and being ignored by CCP). Since there's nothing I can do until CCP fixes your IMG problem, I guess I'll wait. If my problem persists after that's fixed (and don't hold your breath waiting; it took CCP over three weeks to fix the machonex folder problem in February) then at least I'll know there's something else from the patch that has screwed me. I encourage everyone to post, however, because it's the best way to find solutions. We were largely ignored in Feb until the post count got too high to be ignored.
Whitesilk	Posted - 2006.12.01 03:03:00 - [96] I uninstalled the game to try to reinstall it...and now I can't install the game. I have a message after downloading the game stating the file is corrupt. Any ideas from here? sigh
MrR9	Posted - 2006.12.01 03:23:00 - [97] I have been crashing ONLY when a rat shows up when im mining. all i do is mine i have really no other good skills to do anything else atm. i tried changing my dual core so it is only using one. same thing. and ONLY when a rat shows up. i could be mining for an hour then one shows up BOOM im down and out. this is awsome i cant do anything.
Hymarc	Posted - 2006.12.01 05:18:00 - [98] Edited by: Hymarc on 01/12/2006 05:20:18 Originally by: FinalFlash84 Originally by: Starbucc Another one here with the 'reset' problem after the patch. No BSOD, just a system reboot. Sys - XP sp2, Biostar MB 965 chipset, Pent D 805 CPU (dual Core), 2GB geil DDR, 7800GT, Realtech onboard sound. I have tried several of the fixes here and no joy. Almost an instant reset maybe 30 sec after NPCs (rats) appears in a belt, not the only time a reset happens but the only time it happens EVERY time for me Sure hope it gets addressed quickly. Hi, my system is mostly the same like yours and i have the problem, too. Since i turned the ingame Sound off, Eve didn't crash. So i think, there's a problem with Realtech soundchips. Bye Starbucc here - Thanks FinalFlash84 that did it for me too. I tried the delete and the single processor but turning off the sound worked. Realtek drivers may be the issue. Now I must wonder where in the fault lays. I don't like playing with the sound off! Corp mate said I should get my wife to sit behind me and say "Warp drive active"....I am not sure that will work
Duval Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.01 07:32:00 - [99] Originally by: Whitesilk I uninstalled the game to try to reinstall it...and now I can't install the game. I have a message after downloading the game stating the file is corrupt. Any ideas from here? sigh Try this... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=434882
agram tabris Gallente Oberon Incorporated	Posted - 2006.12.01 08:07:00 - [100] here are some facts (for ccp): -most people had no problems before revelations--> its a problem with CURRENT version only. -most people have exactly the same pc setup as before revelation--> again, it's a software problem. it has nothing to do with ISP or which routertype you use. -the problem appears on dualcores AND singlecores --> its not a problem of core afinity only.(perhaps the probability on ctd or restart is biger on dualcores??) -there seem to be several semi-fixes. some work, some don't. i had only one "get stuck at jumpgate problem" but no ctd or restart. i can reproduce those "server disconnect" CTD: when log in (in station)i check mails or sth. (any action that loads data from server..), then i go afk for couple of minutes. when i'm back and try to i.e. check the market --> ctd most of the time.

Cornellius Eki	Posted - 2006.12.01 08:24:00 - [101] Originally by: ALUN I FIXED the promlem without having to delete the img folder at every login. This MAY ONLY WORK for those that are having the SPECIFIC ISSUE of ctd's at jumpgates. This problem is NOT hardware related ... (think we already figured that out) BACKGROUND OBSERVATIONS: .. I have 2 Seperate eve installations on the same hdd, same comp ofc. both eve accounts(folders) were patched with the same 1 patch which was downloaded manually. 1st account gets the ctd's at jump gates and known fix is to delete img folder after login screen appears and works again ok till next loggin. (rinse and repeat etc.) 2nd account , did not have the ctd problem at all. Both accounts running on same comp, from same hdd, just different directory locations. To cut a long story short , i did some monitoring of what is actually happening to the img folder when ingame , WHEN you jump to a jumpgate the images on the BILLBOARD at the gate get put into this IMG folder (would presume for quick retrieval of same img at other billboards) THE TEST: i cut and pasted the working eve's img folder to the ctd eve's browser folder. AND , Eve ran fine .. no ctd's anymore on the bad eve. I then studied what was different about the 2 folders. THE ONLY difference was a file in the good eve's img folder called INDEX.DAT . The index.dat file was not present in the ctd Eve installation. THE SOLUTION: i simply copied and pasted the index.dat file from the good eve version's img folder and put it straight into the bad eve versions img folder. Voila , eve works without a CTD at jumpgates. CONCLUSION: Once The index.dat file is located in the img folder your comp registers its location and from then on Eve works fine. You can even totally delete the img folder again and let eve create a new img folder at startup , and Eve will still work , once u get near to a jumpgate and/or jump through your comp automatically creates the index.dat file again in that folder. Seems as tho if indexing is turned on in windows and u get to a jumpgate and eve places images into the img folder from the billboard and no index.dat file is present then it will CTD before it can create an index.dat file for that folder. Since i did this fix i cannot even create the ctd scenario anymore, just doesnt happen. This is my findings and i hope it helps some ppl to fix thier similar problem. I cannot gaurantee this will work on anyone else's computer or on any other different problems like the dual-core thing. And , apart from how i was lucky enough to have 2 seperate eve installations and one of them worked fine, im not 100% sure if an index.dat file from a totally different location would solve the problem or even if turning OFF the windows indexing service would similerly solve the problem, i cant create the ctd anymore to try out any alternatives. All mentions to the IMG folder in this post are meaning the specific IMG folder located at or in similer locations of C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\cache\Browser\Img I would like to inform you all that I have that index.dat file in my crashed PC so dont think so it's the exact solution. But I beleive it's from dual core problem.. Why? Because I sometimes login from work and currently I'm jumping to several systems and no crash at work PC. This is single core. But last 2 nights after expansion I couldnt play at home. And it's hyper-threaded. It could be different on different Pcs but there is a truth that most of us have problem to play. Or I will talk with my boss and I will work at home and play at office.. LoL
Jeretomi Azure Horizon Coalition Of Empires	Posted - 2006.12.01 09:23:00 - [102] Originally by: agram tabris here are some facts (for ccp): -most people had no problems before revelations--> its a problem with CURRENT version only. I'm sorry to say that this is NOT true. This problem was effecting a smaller number of us prior to Revelations. For me it started IMMEDIATELY after the last small RMR patch. My AMD64 X2 system was playing EVE fine before that patch and only after did it start to CDT every third gate jump. See threads here and here Much of what is being suggested now was thrown into the mix then. Some of the fixes worked for some people and not others, and even then to different degrees. Originally by: Agent Li If you're going to blame anyone, blame Microsoft for providing a threading model that is making idiotic assumptions about the underlying hardware. They provide the OS and the libraries to people who write code - who then make the assumption that the threading model is safe. This is noted in at least TWO Microsoft tech bulletins - even THEY know it's a problem. It's a problem with Call of Duty 2 - and Microsoft wrote that game. Sit down for a minute, and stop blaming CCP. Whilst I agree with this to some degree, the fact that this problem only started for me, and everyone else here, AFTER a patch from CCP implies that they have given us code that has introduced a problem. It is their responsibility, not Microsofts, to find a fix.
HalfLoaf Amarrian Bakery Corp	Posted - 2006.12.01 12:22:00 - [103] Originally by: Jeretomi Originally by: agram tabris here are some facts (for ccp): -most people had no problems before revelations--> its a problem with CURRENT version only. I'm sorry to say that this is NOT true. This problem was effecting a smaller number of us prior to Revelations. For me it started IMMEDIATELY after the last small RMR patch. My AMD64 X2 system was playing EVE fine before that patch and only after did it start to CDT every third gate jump. See threads here and here Much of what is being suggested now was thrown into the mix then. Some of the fixes worked for some people and not others, and even then to different degrees. Originally by: Agent Li If you're going to blame anyone, blame Microsoft for providing a threading model that is making idiotic assumptions about the underlying hardware. They provide the OS and the libraries to people who write code - who then make the assumption that the threading model is safe. This is noted in at least TWO Microsoft tech bulletins - even THEY know it's a problem. It's a problem with Call of Duty 2 - and Microsoft wrote that game. Sit down for a minute, and stop blaming CCP. Whilst I agree with this to some degree, the fact that this problem only started for me, and everyone else here, AFTER a patch from CCP implies that they have given us code that has introduced a problem. It is their responsibility, not Microsofts, to find a fix. I will agree that my issue only started after the patch , i run 2 machines , with an account on each , 1 is an amd64 (single core) the other is a X2 AMD64 , now i have tried it on both machines and the ctd's are just terrible , anytime i go near a gate it drops , took me 20 logins to go 2 jumps and eventually dock , at which point i havent left the bloody station . Pre Revelations i played all day and night without 1 CTD . Has Anyone from CCP actually responded to say what is happening ? and what is being done to rectify it ? as effectivly i'm captive in a station at the moment . --- Loaf Is For Living !! Loaf It To The Full
Flitz Farseeker Gallente Eve guardians	Posted - 2006.12.01 12:55:00 - [104] I only have problems on my dual-core gaming machine - admittedly the one I usually play on. Have had no problems with my wife's Sony laptop or a barely capable office machine (both single core). The problem goes back to the dragon code roll-out. I get the 'stuck after loading bulk data' problem, the hang after jumping (can still esc), the 'docking station doesn't appear' problem (can still esc) and a very occasional combat lockup (requires reboot). Deleting machonet seemed to help the login problem as did Revelations when it wiped my settings (and I assume machonet). It is back again although I haven't deleted machonet since installing Revelations. Seems a lot of these problems are linked to the EVE cache folder.
Henry Fredyericus Gallente H.F. Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.01 13:20:00 - [105] Originally by: ALUN found a temp fix in THIS THREAD and i can confirm it works for now. Basically 1) Rename your eve/cache/browser/img folder to anything, i use abc. 2) Open eve 3) Delete newly created img folder 4) Login 5) Voila, no crashing. Just delete the img folder it creates on each login. Worked for me , sux i know having to do this at every login. That fix works like wonder. Altough the solution is not the not the most favored one, it did stop the CTD's near stargates. I was almost loosing hope there to play EVE again, until to the next patch day (next week Tuesday or something). This stargate CTD problem is really serious one. I hope CCP does find a quick solution and do not delay releasing the client patch for this. Only when the tide goes out, you see who's been swimming naked... - Mr. Buffet
Slain Slaughter R.P. Frizzink inc	Posted - 2006.12.01 14:21:00 - [106] The latest version of AMD's Dual Core Optimizer is available from the AMD website. It might help
Mokaphyyr Gallente Alpha Technologies LTD	Posted - 2006.12.01 15:24:00 - [107] I dont have a dual core processor, but i do have an AMD. the little trick with replaceing the IMG folder with one that has good working index.dat worked for me. right now my compture is ramping in game, but i think i had a work around for that, forgot what junk i did to get that to happen or go away. "its nice to be important, but more important to be nice"
Lady Vlad Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.01 19:13:00 - [108] Originally by: Henry Fredyericus Originally by: ALUN found a temp fix in THIS THREAD and i can confirm it works for now. Basically 1) Rename your eve/cache/browser/img folder to anything, i use abc. 2) Open eve 3) Delete newly created img folder 4) Login 5) Voila, no crashing. Just delete the img folder it creates on each login. Worked for me , sux i know having to do this at every login. That fix works like wonder. Altough the solution is not the not the most favored one, it did stop the CTD's near stargates. I was almost loosing hope there to play EVE again, until to the next patch day (next week Tuesday or something). This stargate CTD problem is really serious one. I hope CCP does find a quick solution and do not delay releasing the client patch for this. I must say, after trying everything CCP has said to do and all the other bs, this is the only thing that worked on all 3 of my machines. I don't have duo core this or amd that, just straight P4 machines. This "erasing" of the IMG folder is only thing making my game work. Maybe CCP needs to deploy a quick fix just to disable that file or something since it appears to serve no purpose to actual game mechanics. But then again, CCP doesn't read our *****es.
yieasase	Posted - 2006.12.01 19:45:00 - [109] "REVELATION" Everyone hows using "ONBOARD" sound in combination with Dualcores (almost "INTEL") It exist a fix for AMDS! disable your onboard sound, it crash with using a intel dualcore! Had no probs with my old SYSTEM... Maybe it is the same Problem for other Systems! had every 5 minutes crashes and now it works fine try it out.
Soporo	Posted - 2006.12.01 20:34:00 - [110] Tried most everything people suggested. Nothing is working. Dual Core intel w/XP. USED to be just fine. FIX IT,LET US KNOW YOU ARE FIXING IT,GIVE US A TIME FRAME WHEN IT WILL BE FIXED. The game is unplayable as is,stuck in one system missioning sucks. Fix it or lose me,kk thx bye.

Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.01 20:43:00 - [111] Those of you still having trouble with this issue, check here. I've consolidated all the various successful work-arounds into one post to make finding them less confusing. Nash
Holy Priest	Posted - 2006.12.01 21:18:00 - [112] There are 4 threads with more then 4 pages on this problem There are more then 8 smaller threads about this problem And ccp has yet to post in one of then to atleast say thay have read the problem I would be happy if that would atleast say, ''sorry guys we will never fix this, go buy a new computer.'' but this ignoring is just not cool.
Brael Wenn	Posted - 2006.12.01 22:50:00 - [113] More info: Pc 1 runs a SB Audigy, and I have sound turned on. Pc 2 has no soundcard (except on the motherboard) and that's disabled. Sound has been disabled on that pc for months. Yet both are experiencing this crash problem, albeit pc 2 tends to lock up when the other crashes. Pc 2 then crashes when I ask for information from the game, such as opening wallet, market, etc. I'm still crashing even with the IMG fix, but not as often as when I don't use it. Haven't tried deleting machonex or other cache folders yet. So far as expecting CCP to comment: don't. They didn't when we had the problem back in Feb, and tend to rely on word of mouth and forum moderators to speak for them.
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2006.12.01 23:04:00 - [114] Originally by: Holy Priest There are 4 threads with more then 4 pages on this problem There are more then 8 smaller threads about this problem And ccp has yet to post in one of then to atleast say thay have read the problem I would be happy if that would atleast say, ''sorry guys we will never fix this, go buy a new computer.'' but this ignoring is just not cool. you remind me of my dad when he cant find something in the fridge thats sitting right in front of him they have a long ways to go on this i think.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.01 23:08:00 - [115] Originally by: Brael Wenn More info: Pc 1 runs a SB Audigy, and I have sound turned on. Pc 2 has no soundcard (except on the motherboard) and that's disabled. Sound has been disabled on that pc for months. Yet both are experiencing this crash problem, albeit pc 2 tends to lock up when the other crashes. Pc 2 then crashes when I ask for information from the game, such as opening wallet, market, etc. I'm still crashing even with the IMG fix, but not as often as when I don't use it. Haven't tried deleting machonex or other cache folders yet. So far as expecting CCP to comment: don't. They didn't when we had the problem back in Feb, and tend to rely on word of mouth and forum moderators to speak for them. Try reinstalling Eve to somewhere outside of Program Files, like C:\Eve, on the computer that crashes first. If your other computer can run fine on its own, then it's probably fine to ignore it for now. If this doesn't work, and you're not running Kaspersky anti-virus, you'll have to use logserver. Nash
Kel Soun	Posted - 2006.12.02 01:14:00 - [116] Originally by: ALUN I FIXED the promlem without having to delete the img folder at every login. This MAY ONLY WORK for those that are having the SPECIFIC ISSUE of ctd's at jumpgates. This problem is NOT hardware related ... (think we already figured that out) BACKGROUND OBSERVATIONS: .. I have 2 Seperate eve installations on the same hdd, same comp ofc. both eve accounts(folders) were patched with the same 1 patch which was downloaded manually. 1st account gets the ctd's at jump gates and known fix is to delete img folder after login screen appears and works again ok till next loggin. (rinse and repeat etc.) 2nd account , did not have the ctd problem at all. Both accounts running on same comp, from same hdd, just different directory locations. To cut a long story short , i did some monitoring of what is actually happening to the img folder when ingame , WHEN you jump to a jumpgate the images on the BILLBOARD at the gate get put into this IMG folder (would presume for quick retrieval of same img at other billboards) THE TEST: i cut and pasted the working eve's img folder to the ctd eve's browser folder. AND , Eve ran fine .. no ctd's anymore on the bad eve. I then studied what was different about the 2 folders. THE ONLY difference was a file in the good eve's img folder called INDEX.DAT . The index.dat file was not present in the ctd Eve installation. THE SOLUTION: i simply copied and pasted the index.dat file from the good eve version's img folder and put it straight into the bad eve versions img folder. Voila , eve works without a CTD at jumpgates. CONCLUSION: Once The index.dat file is located in the img folder your comp registers its location and from then on Eve works fine. You can even totally delete the img folder again and let eve create a new img folder at startup , and Eve will still work , once u get near to a jumpgate and/or jump through your comp automatically creates the index.dat file again in that folder. Seems as tho if indexing is turned on in windows and u get to a jumpgate and eve places images into the img folder from the billboard and no index.dat file is present then it will CTD before it can create an index.dat file for that folder. Since i did this fix i cannot even create the ctd scenario anymore, just doesnt happen. This is my findings and i hope it helps some ppl to fix thier similar problem. I cannot gaurantee this will work on anyone else's computer or on any other different problems like the dual-core thing. And , apart from how i was lucky enough to have 2 seperate eve installations and one of them worked fine, im not 100% sure if an index.dat file from a totally different location would solve the problem or even if turning OFF the windows indexing service would similerly solve the problem, i cant create the ctd anymore to try out any alternatives. All mentions to the IMG folder in this post are meaning the specific IMG folder located at or in similer locations of C:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\cache\Browser\Img MY SPECS: AMD BARTON 2500XP Gforce4 Ti4200 1GB ddr 400 ram WIN XP PRO SP2 This worked for me at first, but now after a few times of ctd's, it seems like it doesn't work again. Thanks for the temporary fix, I got to play eve for an entire hour before things went back to normal.
Brael Wenn	Posted - 2006.12.02 02:17:00 - [117] I don't use that Kasper virus program, and due to problems with Antivir, I run Antivir on one pc, AVG on the other. I am NOT going to reinstall Eve anywhere unless I have to do a system wipe and reformat. So far I've had both games up for about 3 hours, no problems. Haven't done any kill missions, but both games have been stable with the IMG fix.
Duff Man Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 03:33:00 - [118] My main machine is crashing to Desktop at gates (mostly) and occasionally when undocking from a station. I have tried the following: -Updated Vid card drivers. -Updated Motherbaord drivers (Including Audio drivers) -Uninstalled and then reinstalled EvE (Downloaded the latest package from website and installed). -Reinstalled DirectX and checked for problems with DXDiag (No problems found) -Locked down the EvE executable to a single CPU Core. -Tried the img folder rename workaround. None of this has achieved anything. Interesting that while my machine still crashes to Desktop, my much older Server doesn't drop at all running it. Its worth noting as well that my main machine plays everything else brilliantly! Including games that push my hardware to limits that EvE doesn't come close to...
truefranco	Posted - 2006.12.02 05:19:00 - [119] I`m not having CTD issue but Lost Conecction issue every time i shoot a rat or a player with my drones ,i even reinstall windows and still have the same problem,here is a fragment of the log server with the EXCEPTION: 224962006.12.02 04:58:35:710In svc.gameui.OnDisconnect 224972006.12.02 04:58:35:711EXCEPTION #4 logged at 12/1/2006 11:59:58 PM 224982006.12.02 04:58:35:711Caught at: 224992006.12.02 04:58:35:711//lib/bluepy.py(23) in __call__ 225002006.12.02 04:58:35:711//script/sys/uthread.py(601) in poolhelper 225012006.12.02 04:58:35:712//script/sys/servicemanager.py(650) in mollycoddleduthread 225022006.12.02 04:58:35:712Thrown at: 225032006.12.02 04:58:35:712//script/sys/servicemanager.py(647) in mollycoddleduthread 225042006.12.02 04:58:35:712//parklife/gameui.py(199) in ondisconnect 225052006.12.02 04:58:35:712//parklife/gameui.py(170) in reboot 225062006.12.02 04:58:35:712Exception: 225072006.12.02 04:58:35:712SystemExit: connection lost 225082006.12.02 04:58:35:712 225092006.12.02 04:58:35:713Arguments: 225102006.12.02 04:58:35:713self :<svc.GameUI instance at 0x01294308> 225112006.12.02 04:58:35:714reason :'connection lost' 225122006.12.02 04:58:35:714Locals: 225132006.12.02 04:58:35:714args :u'/nosplash /noconsole' 225142006.12.02 04:58:35:714allargs :[u'C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\ExeFile.exe', u'/nosplash', u'/noconsole'] 225152006.12.02 04:58:35:714cmd :u'C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\ExeFile.exe' 225162006.12.02 04:58:35:714arg :u'/noconsole' 225172006.12.02 04:58:35:715Thread Locals: 225182006.12.02 04:58:35:715eve.session was <Session: (sid:17, clientID:0, changing:ClearAttributes, mutating:0, corprole:0x0, languageID:EN, role:0x1, rolesAtAll:0x0, rolesAtHQ:0x0, rolesAtBase:0x0, rolesAtOther:0x0)> .......... .......... 226152006.12.02 04:58:35:745Exefile SHUTDOWN connection lost
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.02 06:54:00 - [120] Originally by: Duff Man My main machine is crashing to Desktop at gates (mostly) and occasionally when undocking from a station. I have tried the following: -Updated Vid card drivers. -Updated Motherbaord drivers (Including Audio drivers) -Uninstalled and then reinstalled EvE (Downloaded the latest package from website and installed). -Reinstalled DirectX and checked for problems with DXDiag (No problems found) -Locked down the EvE executable to a single CPU Core. -Tried the img folder rename workaround. None of this has achieved anything. Interesting that while my machine still crashes to Desktop, my much older Server doesn't drop at all running it. Its worth noting as well that my main machine plays everything else brilliantly! Including games that push my hardware to limits that EvE doesn't come close to... Look here for a concise list of all work-arounds that have a high success rate. Nash

Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.02 06:59:00 - [121] Originally by: truefranco I`m not having CTD issue but Lost Conecction issue every time i shoot a rat or a player with my drones ,i even reinstall windows and still have the same problem,here is a fragment of the log server with the EXCEPTION: 224962006.12.02 04:58:35:710In svc.gameui.OnDisconnect 224972006.12.02 04:58:35:711EXCEPTION #4 logged at 12/1/2006 11:59:58 PM 224982006.12.02 04:58:35:711Caught at: 224992006.12.02 04:58:35:711//lib/bluepy.py(23) in __call__ 225002006.12.02 04:58:35:711//script/sys/uthread.py(601) in poolhelper 225012006.12.02 04:58:35:712//script/sys/servicemanager.py(650) in mollycoddleduthread 225022006.12.02 04:58:35:712Thrown at: 225032006.12.02 04:58:35:712//script/sys/servicemanager.py(647) in mollycoddleduthread 225042006.12.02 04:58:35:712//parklife/gameui.py(199) in ondisconnect 225052006.12.02 04:58:35:712//parklife/gameui.py(170) in reboot 225062006.12.02 04:58:35:712Exception: 225072006.12.02 04:58:35:712SystemExit: connection lost 225082006.12.02 04:58:35:712 225092006.12.02 04:58:35:713Arguments: 225102006.12.02 04:58:35:713self :<svc.GameUI instance at 0x01294308> 225112006.12.02 04:58:35:714reason :'connection lost' 225122006.12.02 04:58:35:714Locals: 225132006.12.02 04:58:35:714args :u'/nosplash /noconsole' 225142006.12.02 04:58:35:714allargs :[u'C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\ExeFile.exe', u'/nosplash', u'/noconsole'] 225152006.12.02 04:58:35:714cmd :u'C:\\Program Files\\CCP\\EVE\\bin\\ExeFile.exe' 225162006.12.02 04:58:35:714arg :u'/noconsole' 225172006.12.02 04:58:35:715Thread Locals: 225182006.12.02 04:58:35:715eve.session was <Session: (sid:17, clientID:0, changing:ClearAttributes, mutating:0, corprole:0x0, languageID:EN, role:0x1, rolesAtAll:0x0, rolesAtHQ:0x0, rolesAtBase:0x0, rolesAtOther:0x0)> .......... .......... 226152006.12.02 04:58:35:745Exefile SHUTDOWN connection lost Unfortunately, this section of the logserver log doesn't contain the information required to work around the problem. In order to come up with a work around, what's actually important is what the client is doing right before the error is generated. Also note that the work arounds thus far have been for actual CTD or rebooting issues. I'm not sure what would be causing a connection lost problem, but the logserver lines from before the error might help track it down. Nash
Duff Man Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 09:29:00 - [122] Originally by: Nash Wraithwind Originally by: Duff Man My main machine is crashing to Desktop at gates (mostly) and occasionally when undocking from a station. I have tried the following: -Updated Vid card drivers. -Updated Motherbaord drivers (Including Audio drivers) -Uninstalled and then reinstalled EvE (Downloaded the latest package from website and installed). -Reinstalled DirectX and checked for problems with DXDiag (No problems found) -Locked down the EvE executable to a single CPU Core. -Tried the img folder rename workaround. None of this has achieved anything. Interesting that while my machine still crashes to Desktop, my much older Server doesn't drop at all running it. Its worth noting as well that my main machine plays everything else brilliantly! Including games that push my hardware to limits that EvE doesn't come close to... Look here for a concise list of all work-arounds that have a high success rate. Nash I've tried it all mate I've even gone to the point of detuning my machine specs down to slower speeds to see if that would help. It doesn't. I want to play but cannot, getting a CTD every jump or two is making it unplayable for me.
Cockroach Amarr Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 10:12:00 - [123] Here you go Nash.....this first log is right before i crashed to desktop whilst in a station and i opened up the map, this doesnt happen everytime i open up a map only randomly....... 697162006.12.02 09:52:11:610Rot::GetCopy : res:/UI/Shared/Maps/maps_circle.blue (32 cache hits): 0.034 ms. 697172006.12.02 09:52:11:610Rot::GetCopy : res:/UI/Shared/Maps/maps_circle.blue (33 cache hits): 0.032 ms. 697182006.12.02 09:52:11:610Rot::GetCopy : res:/UI/Shared/Maps/maps_circle.blue (34 cache hits): 0.031 ms. 697192006.12.02 09:52:11:611Rot::GetCopy : res:/UI/Shared/Maps/maps_circle.blue (35 cache hits): 0.032 ms. 697202006.12.02 09:52:11:611Rot::GetCopy : res:/UI/Shared/Maps/maps_circle.blue (36 cache hits): 0.031 ms. 697212006.12.02 09:52:11:611Rot::GetCopy : res:/UI/Shared/Maps/maps_circle.blue (37 cache hits): 0.030 ms. 697222006.12.02 09:52:11:611Rot::GetCopy : res:/UI/Shared/Maps/maps_circle.blue (38 cache hits): 0.031 ms. 697232006.12.02 09:52:11:611Rot::GetCopy : res:/UI/Shared/Maps/maps_circle.blue (39 cache hits): 0.030 ms. 697242006.12.02 09:52:11:611Rot::GetCopy : res:/UI/Shared/Maps/maps_circle.blue (40 cache hits): 0.032 ms. 697252006.12.02 09:52:11:626ObjectCaching stationSvc :: GetStation ( (60003760,) ) returning a cached result 697262006.12.02 09:52:11:626stationSvc::GetStation[Cached] args=(60003760,), retval=Row(stationID: 60003760,stationName: Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant,stationTypeID: 1529,operationID: 14,ownerID: 1000035,solarSystemID: 30000142,constellationID: 20000020,regionID: 697272006.12.02 09:52:11:626- 10000002,x: -107303362560.0,y: -18744975360.0,z: -436489052160.0,description: Produces weapons and ammunition that are shipped for storage.,security: 500,dockingCostPerVolume: 0.0,maxShipVolumeDockable: 50000000.0,officeRentalCost: 46469243,dockingBay 697282006.12.02 09:52:11:626- GraphicID: None,hangarGraphicID: 241,dockEntryX: -170.0,dockEntryY: 3217.0,dockEntryZ: -5703.0,dockOrientationX: 0.0,dockOrientationY: 0.0,dockOrientationZ: -8000.0,radius: 45734.0,graphicID: 1019,reprocessingEfficiency: 0.5,reprocessingStationsTake: 697292006.12.02 09:52:11:626- 0.05,reprocessingHangarFlag: 4,serviceMask: 7680085,conquerable: 0) 697302006.12.02 09:52:11:627ObjectCaching stationSvc :: GetStation ( (60003760,) ) returning a cached result 697312006.12.02 09:52:11:627stationSvc::GetStation[Cached] args=(60003760,), retval=Row(stationID: 60003760,stationName: Jita IV - Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Assembly Plant,stationTypeID: 1529,operationID: 14,ownerID: 1000035,solarSystemID: 30000142,constellationID: 20000020,regionID: 697322006.12.02 09:52:11:627- 10000002,x: -107303362560.0,y: -18744975360.0,z: -436489052160.0,description: Produces weapons and ammunition that are shipped for storage.,security: 500,dockingCostPerVolume: 0.0,maxShipVolumeDockable: 50000000.0,officeRentalCost: 46469243,dockingBay 697332006.12.02 09:52:11:627- GraphicID: None,hangarGraphicID: 241,dockEntryX: -170.0,dockEntryY: 3217.0,dockEntryZ: -5703.0,dockOrientationX: 0.0,dockOrientationY: 0.0,dockOrientationZ: -8000.0,radius: 45734.0,graphicID: 1019,reprocessingEfficiency: 0.5,reprocessingStationsTake: 697342006.12.02 09:52:11:627- 0.05,reprocessingHangarFlag: 4,serviceMask: 7680085,conquerable: 0) 697352006.12.02 09:52:11:633Open res:/UI/Texture/cursor12.dds 697362006.12.02 09:52:11:635Open C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/res/Texture/Nebula/g02_cube.dds 697372006.12.02 09:52:11:711Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump being written in C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.12.02 09.52.11.dmp 697382006.12.02 09:52:11:713Loaded C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/bin/DBGHELP.DLL 697392006.12.02 09:52:11:795MiniDump generated: C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.12.02 09.52.11.dmp 697402006.12.02 09:52:11:795Exefile SHUTDOWN Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump written in C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.12.02 09.52.11.dmp
Cockroach Amarr Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 11:01:00 - [124] here is log file right before and during ctd at a stargate, hope it helps....... 7366212006.12.02 10:54:45:728Stopping DeviceMgr 7366222006.12.02 10:54:45:728ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'cmd' 7366232006.12.02 10:54:45:731ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'machoNet' 7366242006.12.02 10:54:45:731Stopping macho net node None 7366252006.12.02 10:54:45:731ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'billboard' 7366262006.12.02 10:54:45:731Billboards - Stopping Timer 7366272006.12.02 10:54:45:731Billboards - Killing Timer 7366282006.12.02 10:54:45:731ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'godma' 7366292006.12.02 10:54:45:747ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'consider' 7366302006.12.02 10:54:45:747ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'loading' 7366312006.12.02 10:54:45:747ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'ime' 7366322006.12.02 10:54:45:748EXCEPTION #1 logged at 12/2/2006 10:54:44 7366332006.12.02 10:54:45:748Caught at: 7366342006.12.02 10:54:45:748//lib/bluepy.py(23) in __call__ 7366352006.12.02 10:54:45:748//script/sys/servicemanager.py(206) in stop 7366362006.12.02 10:54:45:748Thrown at: 7366372006.12.02 10:54:45:748//script/sys/servicemanager.py(204) in stop 7366382006.12.02 10:54:45:748//ui/services/imesvc.py(406) in stop 7366392006.12.02 10:54:45:748Exception: 7366402006.12.02 10:54:45:748AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'desktop' 7366412006.12.02 10:54:45:748 7366422006.12.02 10:54:45:748Arguments: 7366432006.12.02 10:54:45:748self :<svc.IME instance at 0x018788A8> 7366442006.12.02 10:54:45:748stream :<BlueWrapper: blue.MemStream> 7366452006.12.02 10:54:45:748Locals: 7366462006.12.02 10:54:45:748Thread Locals: 7366472006.12.02 10:54:45:748eve.session was <Session: (sid:17, mutating:0, corprole:0x0, languageID:EN, role:0x1L, rolesAtAll:0x0, rolesAtHQ:0x0, rolesAtBase:0x0, rolesAtOther:0x0)> 7366482006.12.02 10:54:45:748
dicemen4 Viper Squad Mordus Angels	Posted - 2006.12.02 11:15:00 - [125] I hate my comp or eve.I crashed 30 times in 2 hours eather its my comp or its eve but i never crashed when i had RMR so im thinking its just kali but maybe i am wrong. So if it doesnt get fixed soon i may just get a new comp and see if that helps.
ApophisXP Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.02 11:22:00 - [126] Originally by: dicemen4 I crashed 30 times in 2 hours [ This is how it is for my alt/laptop. On my pc however theres no problem whatsoever. Just for the record. Laptop using Core Duo PC using Athlon X2 64
Mandible	Posted - 2006.12.02 11:25:00 - [127] I have a dual core system and crashed numerous times after gating, leaving a station etc. The forllowing workaround solved it to 100% for me, played for a day and no CTD's so far. Originaly posted by Staban Tuek: The ONLY thing that fixed the issue for me was adding this entry in my boot.ini on my XP SP2 machine: multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional EVE" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /ONECPU /usepmtimer I now have a 'eve mode' and a 'dual core' mode that i have to choose when i boot. Sucks but have had 0 CTD since September, including with this latest 'upgrade' Staban Tuek
Mandible	Posted - 2006.12.02 11:38:00 - [128] It took me some time to find the boot ini, i am a bit slowish in those matters :P For anyone having problems finding: Open your configuration in start then open the system icon, go to advanced, select startup config or however it is called (i have a dutch version of windows) Then click on edit the startup manualy, or however that is called in the englsish version. After that just copy paste the following line; multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional EVE" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /ONECPU /usepmtimer
Reachok Amarr Low Grade Ore The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.12.02 12:07:00 - [129] I am pretty sure I used this or a similar link to fix my issues that were much like the ones described in this thread. There are 20+ pages of comments from other people who've tried these fixes. They worked for me but I cannot vouch for how they may affect your machine. So, if you're being cautious, read the comments and decide for yourself.
Abbadon Caldari Pukin' Dogs Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.02 15:43:00 - [130] I cant confirm that deleting the IMG folder has completely fixed this problem for me. After patch I would CTD at every gate, now I'm a happy bunny again! . Dancers plz. o/ --Jorauk boogies-eris booty bounces - Cortes bodypops - Cathath

Indigo Callypso	Posted - 2006.12.02 17:18:00 - [131] I run a dual core machine. My problem is crash to REBOOT. This really sucks. I tried the set affinity thing...I still crash to REBOOT. I tried the delete.img thing. That appeared to work for awhile...multi-jump trips...but randomly I crash to REBOOT at gates, undocking...especially with more people in that system. I am currently on the affinity thing, the .img thing and disabling my audio in game. I have a realtek audio system (sigh). So far no crashes but only played about an hour and no heavy demand...will update here later. What I am looking for: I would be pleased as punch if CCP would say they are working on it. I don't know that they haven't said so...I just haven't seen it. I mean the crash to REBOOT issue specifically. If they have said it could someone point it out...just so I feel better. At Nash - Dude, you are doing a helluva good thing. I wish I had your brains, patience and persistence. Course you probably wish you had my looks. Anyways thanks for helping us all.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.02 20:07:00 - [132] Originally by: Cockroach Here you go Nash.....this first log is right before i crashed to desktop whilst in a station and i opened up the map, this doesnt happen everytime i open up a map only randomly....... 697362006.12.02 09:52:11:635Open C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/res/Texture/Nebula/g02_cube.dds 697372006.12.02 09:52:11:711Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump being written in C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.12.02 09.52.11.dmp 697382006.12.02 09:52:11:713Loaded C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/bin/DBGHELP.DLL 697392006.12.02 09:52:11:795MiniDump generated: C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.12.02 09.52.11.dmp 697402006.12.02 09:52:11:795Exefile SHUTDOWN Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump written in C:/Program Files/CCP/EVE/logs\#crash b27912 2006.12.02 09.52.11.dmp This is the important bit of the logserver log. It shows the client accessing a resource and then crashing. One probably caused the other, but the only way to check woudl be to analyze the .dmp file that was generated with WinDbg. However we can assume that the error that would show up in the .dmp file would be a DirectX error I think. Editting your boot.ini as described in the thread I linked earlier may help. I'd pick that work-around as the most likely to help you. Nash
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.02 20:10:00 - [133] Originally by: Cockroach here is log file right before and during ctd at a stargate, hope it helps....... 7366212006.12.02 10:54:45:728Stopping DeviceMgr 7366222006.12.02 10:54:45:728ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'cmd' 7366232006.12.02 10:54:45:731ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'machoNet' 7366242006.12.02 10:54:45:731Stopping macho net node None 7366252006.12.02 10:54:45:731ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'billboard' 7366262006.12.02 10:54:45:731Billboards - Stopping Timer 7366272006.12.02 10:54:45:731Billboards - Killing Timer 7366282006.12.02 10:54:45:731ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'godma' 7366292006.12.02 10:54:45:747ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'consider' 7366302006.12.02 10:54:45:747ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'loading' 7366312006.12.02 10:54:45:747ServiceManager.Stop(), stopping service 'ime' 7366322006.12.02 10:54:45:748EXCEPTION #1 logged at 12/2/2006 10:54:44 7366332006.12.02 10:54:45:748Caught at: 7366342006.12.02 10:54:45:748//lib/bluepy.py(23) in __call__ 7366352006.12.02 10:54:45:748//script/sys/servicemanager.py(206) in stop 7366362006.12.02 10:54:45:748Thrown at: 7366372006.12.02 10:54:45:748//script/sys/servicemanager.py(204) in stop 7366382006.12.02 10:54:45:748//ui/services/imesvc.py(406) in stop 7366392006.12.02 10:54:45:748Exception: 7366402006.12.02 10:54:45:748AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'desktop' 7366412006.12.02 10:54:45:748 7366422006.12.02 10:54:45:748Arguments: 7366432006.12.02 10:54:45:748self :<svc.IME instance at 0x018788A8> 7366442006.12.02 10:54:45:748stream :<BlueWrapper: blue.MemStream> 7366452006.12.02 10:54:45:748Locals: 7366462006.12.02 10:54:45:748Thread Locals: 7366472006.12.02 10:54:45:748eve.session was <Session: (sid:17, mutating:0, corprole:0x0, languageID:EN, role:0x1L, rolesAtAll:0x0, rolesAtHQ:0x0, rolesAtBase:0x0, rolesAtOther:0x0)> 7366482006.12.02 10:54:45:748 Unfortunately, whatever is causing this problem occured before the segment of the log you posted. As you can see at the top of the log, it's already begun stopping various modules because it's encountered the error. You'll have to check higher up in the log. Trying to debug logserver files on the forums is kinda crappy, they should implement an attachment feature or something to allow people to post the whole thing. Nash
Etienne Merten	Posted - 2006.12.02 21:09:00 - [134] This is just about Blue Screen system STOP and kernel dumps, not CTDs (god, I can't believe I miss the days of multiple CTDs). I am still getting BSOD (Blue Screen of Death) kernel errors. ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe Motherboard Intel chipset Intel Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT (yes, I've turned off hyperthreading, so it's a plain P4 single core) 2 GB DDR-400 RAM Radeon 9800 graphics Onboard Realtek Drivers WDM3.95 installed this week(still get BSOD with sound off). ATI Catalyst 6.11 drivers for graphics (latest build, 16 nov 2006). I get the blue screen, so logserver doesn't get to save anything (system lock, kernel dump, hard reset required to proceed). I've submitted the windows kernel-mode dumps with DxDiag and descriptions of actions. Happens while on autopilot between gates (but not usually at gates), also in missions (in the midst of a fight) and when UnDocking from stations, randomly. When I get rebooted and restart Eve, ALL settings are back to default, so I've lost my overview settings (yet again), my drone groupings, my windows locations, graphics settings, etc. I've tried all the fixes listed in this and the many other threads. They don't apply or don't completely resolve the issue. The first (and most) of the BSOD dump files indicated an unknown driver which seemed to be the realtek one. The latest have been saying graphics device driver, but I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Catalyst 6.10 and Catalyst 6.11...without any change. 1. We know there's an issue with Dual Core 2. I've seen tales of issues with Hyperthreading CPUs 3. I've seen tales of issues with fast single core CPUs 4. Both AMD and Intel CPUs are seemingly involved. 5. My system is a hyperthreading Intel cpu, but I've turned of hyperthreading and it didn't help. 6. Note that my system, with hyperthreading, was bouncing around 15-25% cpu usage while playing eve...without, it's bouncing between 98-100% cpu usage and heating up even worse than usual. 7. built in audio (e.g. AC97 and realtek wdm drivers) causes BSOD also, but not exclusively. 8. ATI radeon drivers have not been mentioned as an issue per se, but I'm wondering if anyone's tried to correlate some of the BSOD issues that haven't been fixed by other workarounds to graphic card driver types?
HankMurphy Pelennor Swarm Eternal Rangers of Terror	Posted - 2006.12.02 22:22:00 - [135] Edited by: HankMurphy on 02/12/2006 22:25:05 Originally by: Etienne Merten This is just about Blue Screen system STOP and kernel dumps, not CTDs (god, I can't believe I miss the days of multiple CTDs). I am still getting BSOD (Blue Screen of Death) kernel errors. ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe Motherboard Intel chipset Intel Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT (yes, I've turned off hyperthreading, so it's a plain P4 single core) 2 GB DDR-400 RAM Radeon 9800 graphics Onboard Realtek Drivers WDM3.95 installed this week(still get BSOD with sound off). ATI Catalyst 6.11 drivers for graphics (latest build, 16 nov 2006). I get the blue screen, so logserver doesn't get to save anything (system lock, kernel dump, hard reset required to proceed). I've submitted the windows kernel-mode dumps with DxDiag and descriptions of actions. Happens while on autopilot between gates (but not usually at gates), also in missions (in the midst of a fight) and when UnDocking from stations, randomly. When I get rebooted and restart Eve, ALL settings are back to default, so I've lost my overview settings (yet again), my drone groupings, my windows locations, graphics settings, etc. I've tried all the fixes listed in this and the many other threads. They don't apply or don't completely resolve the issue. The first (and most) of the BSOD dump files indicated an unknown driver which seemed to be the realtek one. The latest have been saying graphics device driver, but I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Catalyst 6.10 and Catalyst 6.11...without any change. 1. We know there's an issue with Dual Core 2. I've seen tales of issues with Hyperthreading CPUs 3. I've seen tales of issues with fast single core CPUs 4. Both AMD and Intel CPUs are seemingly involved. 5. My system is a hyperthreading Intel cpu, but I've turned of hyperthreading and it didn't help. 6. Note that my system, with hyperthreading, was bouncing around 15-25% cpu usage while playing eve...without, it's bouncing between 98-100% cpu usage and heating up even worse than usual. 7. built in audio (e.g. AC97 and realtek wdm drivers) causes BSOD also, but not exclusively. 8. ATI radeon drivers have not been mentioned as an issue per se, but I'm wondering if anyone's tried to correlate some of the BSOD issues that haven't been fixed by other workarounds to graphic card driver types? basically exacly what i have going on. same system pretty much too. (P4C800E, 3.0 proc and i have an nvidea geforce6800gt) have had some amusing replies to my posts about the heat issues. one guy told me it wasn't the clients fault my pc sucked replaced the door on my case with a box fan, but the heat issues do make me nervous. not like CCP would acknowledge, more less refund me if my vid card burned up. i have concluded the crashes, lockups and shutdown/reboots are each seperate issues. shutdown/restarts ofcourse being heat related. but of course it isn't caused by the client .... well, running a loud ass 28" box fan stopped the shutdowns the CTDs are definitely related to that damn IMG folder and deleting it at the appropriate time while loggin on seems to help. The freezes however... anyone's guess. Still get them here and there. Sounds off. As far as driver reloads (only thing in this short list i'll do), reinstalling windows, swapping out vid cards / ram types, trying out older P3 box blah blah blah, screw it. I'm dont being beta tester and just trying to get some time in to play the game (in between of course my system crapping the bed). Not when i'm reading through the eve log and the subroutines actually logging things like "i dont know what to do with this, putting it here" asinine bs Tuesday is patch day eh? It better be impresive. Cause right now its a joke and i dont think alot of ppl are laughing. CLEAN UP YOUR CODE!!!
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.02 22:43:00 - [136] Edited by: Nash Wraithwind on 02/12/2006 22:44:00 Originally by: Etienne Merten This is just about Blue Screen system STOP and kernel dumps, not CTDs (god, I can't believe I miss the days of multiple CTDs). I am still getting BSOD (Blue Screen of Death) kernel errors. ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe Motherboard Intel chipset Intel Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT (yes, I've turned off hyperthreading, so it's a plain P4 single core) 2 GB DDR-400 RAM Radeon 9800 graphics Onboard Realtek Drivers WDM3.95 installed this week(still get BSOD with sound off). ATI Catalyst 6.11 drivers for graphics (latest build, 16 nov 2006). I get the blue screen, so logserver doesn't get to save anything (system lock, kernel dump, hard reset required to proceed). I've submitted the windows kernel-mode dumps with DxDiag and descriptions of actions. Happens while on autopilot between gates (but not usually at gates), also in missions (in the midst of a fight) and when UnDocking from stations, randomly. When I get rebooted and restart Eve, ALL settings are back to default, so I've lost my overview settings (yet again), my drone groupings, my windows locations, graphics settings, etc. I've tried all the fixes listed in this and the many other threads. They don't apply or don't completely resolve the issue. The first (and most) of the BSOD dump files indicated an unknown driver which seemed to be the realtek one. The latest have been saying graphics device driver, but I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Catalyst 6.10 and Catalyst 6.11...without any change. 1. We know there's an issue with Dual Core 2. I've seen tales of issues with Hyperthreading CPUs 3. I've seen tales of issues with fast single core CPUs 4. Both AMD and Intel CPUs are seemingly involved. 5. My system is a hyperthreading Intel cpu, but I've turned of hyperthreading and it didn't help. 6. Note that my system, with hyperthreading, was bouncing around 15-25% cpu usage while playing eve...without, it's bouncing between 98-100% cpu usage and heating up even worse than usual. 7. built in audio (e.g. AC97 and realtek wdm drivers) causes BSOD also, but not exclusively. 8. ATI radeon drivers have not been mentioned as an issue per se, but I'm wondering if anyone's tried to correlate some of the BSOD issues that haven't been fixed by other workarounds to graphic card driver types? If you're getting a bluescreen with audio off, then unfortunately your problem falls into the realm of "other". I'm not sure what would be causing it, though any time you play with the sound on the problem is almost certainly caused by your Realtek sound. You can use dxdiag to turn off sound acceleration which should enable you to play with sound on at least, but if you're still crashing the only thing you can do is analyze the crash dump with WinDbg and try to track it down. Nash
Skold Callad	Posted - 2006.12.03 08:01:00 - [137] I have only just installed the game after signing up for the free trial and I havent even completed the tutorial and it has crashed to desktop twice. Right now I cant even be bothered to fire it up for a third attempt to just make it through the tutorial. GG Eve
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.03 08:14:00 - [138] Originally by: Skold Callad I have only just installed the game after signing up for the free trial and I havent even completed the tutorial and it has crashed to desktop twice. Right now I cant even be bothered to fire it up for a third attempt to just make it through the tutorial. GG Eve See the thread I linked above for your list of work-arounds. Chances are pretty good you've got one of two problems that are rather easily avoided. Nash
F9OOEX	Posted - 2006.12.03 08:25:00 - [139] Edited by: F9OOEX on 03/12/2006 08:25:26 I'm having same problem ..Since patch release.... System Manufacturer: Dell Inc. System Model: Dell DXG061 BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 1.1.6 Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs) Memory: 3814MB RAM Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 GX2 Manufacturer: NVIDIA Chip type: GeForce 7950 GX2 DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC Device Key: xxxxxxxxxx Display Memory: 512.0 MB Current Mode: 1600 x 1200 (32 bit) (60Hz) Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll Driver Version: 6.14.0010.9371 (English) DDI Version: 9 (or higher) Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 10/22/2006 12:22:00, 4527488 bytes
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.03 08:44:00 - [140] How many times am I going to have to point people to the other thread before they start going there?

Cockroach Amarr Kinetic Vector Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.03 09:05:00 - [141] cheers Nash, u are a great help to us non tech's out there, ccp should give you a free account or something for your help. It would be nice if CCP could get someone to put step by step instructions for the different 'fixes' people are having. As for myself i think my last option is to start writing to my boot.ini file which i really dont want to mess about with see you all in space......i hope
Holy Priest	Posted - 2006.12.03 12:25:00 - [142] Originally by: HankMurphy Originally by: Holy Priest There are 4 threads with more then 4 pages on this problem There are more then 8 smaller threads about this problem And ccp has yet to post in one of then to atleast say thay have read the problem I would be happy if that would atleast say, ''sorry guys we will never fix this, go buy a new computer.'' but this ignoring is just not cool. you remind me of my dad when he cant find something in the fridge thats sitting right in front of him they have a long ways to go on this i think. I must be getting real blinde, wich post is it in again?
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.03 19:57:00 - [143] Originally by: Cockroach cheers Nash, u are a great help to us non tech's out there, ccp should give you a free account or something for your help. It would be nice if CCP could get someone to put step by step instructions for the different 'fixes' people are having. As for myself i think my last option is to start writing to my boot.ini file which i really dont want to mess about with see you all in space......i hope CCP has taken some steps to help people having issues. I saw a post of someone's automated response to a stuck petition that contained many of the work-arounds that are helping people play. Unfortunately they had someone put it together who hadn't had experience dealing with these problems directly and so attributed the wrong problems to certain work-arounds. Also, while editting the boot.ini file is somewhat dangerous, you can fix it if you do screw it up. It's annoying, requiring booting from the Windows XP cd and using the recovery console, but it's not like you've screwed yourself forever. That sort of ownage is reserved for when you flash your bios and it screws up Nash
Fren Mallow Gallente Bluestar Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.03 21:55:00 - [144] Originally by: ALUN Having same prob now too I havnt got a dual core , and my proc is under 2ghz , just get a ctd when about to jump through a jump gate , and every login there after it will ctd within 5 secs. No Blue screens Have deleted cache folder , no avail. SPECS: AMD Barton XP 2500 @1800mhz Gforce 4 Ti4200 64mb Win XP Pro SP2 DirectX 9.c Sound disabled in Eve exactly the same here: CTD after jumping with AP and WTZ in gates in System:Alentene today (when there where 32.000 players online...) 5 times on row.. After leaving this system, symptoms are gone. If it's needed to have a log for this.. I must fly there again, as I started the logserver after I was out of the system.. finally ;) Machine: AMD Athlon XP 2800+ @ 333MHz FSB 2GB Ram Win XP Pro SP 2 Onboard sound Gainward Ultra 6600GT Eve-Sound disabled --------------------------------------------- Never fix a running system, but fix this dead LOW SEC, CCP!
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:36:00 - [145] Edited by: Nash Wraithwind on 04/12/2006 00:36:35 Originally by: Fren Mallow exactly the same here: CTD after jumping with AP and WTZ in gates in System:Alentene today (when there where 32.000 players online...) 5 times on row.. After leaving this system, symptoms are gone. If it's needed to have a log for this.. I must fly there again, as I started the logserver after I was out of the system.. finally ;) Machine: AMD Athlon XP 2800+ @ 333MHz FSB 2GB Ram Win XP Pro SP 2 Onboard sound Gainward Ultra 6600GT Eve-Sound disabled As was stated in the thread I linked, you need to delete the Eve/cache/Browser/Img folder after starting Eve. Nash
Glassrunner	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:39:00 - [146] Correct me if im wrong. Editing a processes'(applications') affinity in the task manager to use only one processor (core) will do just that, reducing the possible cpu usage to half. Although this may solve the crashing problem with a dual core processor, its a large waste. Your motherboard's BIOS should have the option to make both of the dual cores work together as a single core. This should yeild better performance with EVE since both cores will be used instead of just one. There are other applications that work best with both cores as one but note that some applications will have better performance by using your dual core processor as 2 separate cores. I solved all my CTD issues by doing this. I was CTD often when exiting a station or gate jumping.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.04 02:07:00 - [147] Originally by: Glassrunner Correct me if im wrong. Editing a processes'(applications') affinity in the task manager to use only one processor (core) will do just that, reducing the possible cpu usage to half. Although this may solve the crashing problem with a dual core processor, its a large waste. Your motherboard's BIOS should have the option to make both of the dual cores work together as a single core. This should yeild better performance with EVE since both cores will be used instead of just one. There are other applications that work best with both cores as one but note that some applications will have better performance by using your dual core processor as 2 separate cores. I solved all my CTD issues by doing this. I was CTD often when exiting a station or gate jumping. While it may be wasteful to disable a core, it's a work-around, not a fix. It would be rather complicated to try to get all these Eve players (read: largely non-technical background) to successfully change bios settings in the manner to which you are referring without screwing up other things. Disabling one core is easier to explain how to do, and only has to last until the patch since (hopefully) CCP will have the issues resolved by then. Nash
scruffythedog	Posted - 2006.12.05 21:47:00 - [148] Well.... seems that the crash to desktop upon meeting npc /gate is still there then...
Nm'Me Amarr Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:01:00 - [149] Originally by: scruffythedog Well.... seems that the crash to desktop upon meeting npc /gate is still there then... Not for me, haven't had a crash since the patch! \o/
Chezaka	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:25:00 - [150] Edited by: Chezaka on 05/12/2006 22:26:47 Still random crashes while in space, in particular when engaged in fights. Blue screen with STOP 0x00000007. (For those of you who get spontaneous reboots, you can change your setting to display the error screen: right-click My Computer, Properties, go to the Advanced tab, push Settings located at 'Startup and Recovery', and uncheck 'Automatically restart'. OK and OK) These crashes never happened before the patch. Right now I think i've had it about 10 times the past days, obviously VERY annoying, especially because it happens in fights! Tried disabling sound, lowering DDR2 memory speed, etc.. No results. My system: Intel Core 2 6600 at 2.40 Ghz, 3.00 GB of Ram, on an ASUS mainboard (P5WDH Deluxe), Intel 975X chipset, with onboard audio (Realtek). VGA card is Nvidia based (Geforce 7900GT). No weird BIOS settings, all on 'Auto'. I had my hopes up for todays (Tuesday) patch, but obviously, the problem has NOT been solved. And if i am correct in assuming this problem still is an issue for many more players, STICKY would be good!! CCP, give us some kind of feedback on this one!

000Hunter000 Gallente The Lookers	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:47:00 - [151] got me a new comp, pre patch running 2 accounts no sweat worked like a charm, after the latest patch (the small one not revelation) when i boot up the 2nd account the screen goes into snailmode... unplayable. It's also a core 2 duo (E6300) tried setting both clients to a different cpu but that only had minor effect, more like snail with turbodrive on hehe oh well, gonna wait and see if they gonna find a solution Resized tag... hope this pleases the tag ninjas from ccp :p
Sauron Starcrusher Minmatar Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:58:00 - [152] I, too, suffer from this problem, but I have found a fix. Took me long enough to find it. lol It's clearly something wrong with the coding of Revelations. This problem first surfaced on the test server no more than 2 weeks before Revelations released. I can fly around 0.0 all I want, but if I fly around in empire with any char or any account, I CTD left and right whenever comming out of warp at a gate or station. The fix I found was deleting my cache/browser/Img folder AFTER logging in, when I'm at the character selection screen. Well, I don't exactly delete it, I cut it and place it on my desktop. I can play the game crash-free. But if I close the game and reopen it, I CTD before I get to the character selection screen. Before I login, I must replace that Img folder, login, then remove it again. It's a damn pain in the ass, but at lease I can play Eve again.
Kel Soun	Posted - 2006.12.06 02:17:00 - [153] Well, the patch worked for about half a day for me. Now I'm stuck at the same point at a warp gate and none of the previous fixes work. Hooray for CTD before I even have a chance to get away from the gate... And now I sometimes get them at the character selection screen too. I hope I don't have to wait another week just so I can get half a days worth of playing in with the next fix.
Zoro Astro	Posted - 2006.12.06 02:30:00 - [154] none of the fixes work. I am getting a mix of CTDs and bluescreens. The game is unplayable on my primary machine since kali came out. dual core system...
Austar	Posted - 2006.12.06 06:07:00 - [155] Bump
Chewan Mesa Beagle Corp	Posted - 2006.12.06 06:59:00 - [156] Originally by: Kel Soun Well, the patch worked for about half a day for me. Now I'm stuck at the same point at a warp gate and none of the previous fixes work. Hooray for CTD before I even have a chance to get away from the gate... And now I sometimes get them at the character selection screen too. I hope I don't have to wait another week just so I can get half a days worth of playing in with the next fix. Same for me. Siganture removed due to profanity - Serathu ([email protected])
Robinue	Posted - 2006.12.06 21:35:00 - [157] Edited by: Robinue on 06/12/2006 21:37:33 CCP Where are you this topic needs to be Stickied and we need some response from you or be prepared for many people to just walk away. Thanks to CCP Im out 100m and podded Core 2 duo E6600 asus 7900gt 2gb ram default sound 3mb connection BUMP BUMP BUMP
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.06 22:31:00 - [158] Originally by: Sauron Starcrusher I, too, suffer from this problem, but I have found a fix. Took me long enough to find it. lol It's clearly something wrong with the coding of Revelations. This problem first surfaced on the test server no more than 2 weeks before Revelations released. I can fly around 0.0 all I want, but if I fly around in empire with any char or any account, I CTD left and right whenever comming out of warp at a gate or station. The fix I found was deleting my cache/browser/Img folder AFTER logging in, when I'm at the character selection screen. Well, I don't exactly delete it, I cut it and place it on my desktop. I can play the game crash-free. But if I close the game and reopen it, I CTD before I get to the character selection screen. Before I login, I must replace that Img folder, login, then remove it again. It's a damn pain in the ass, but at lease I can play Eve again. Deleting the folder is sufficient for getting around the issue, no need for renaming or putting files elsewhere to clutter things up. Also, it seems that as long as it's after you start the Eve client up, deleting the folder works - doesn't necessarily have to be after login. Nash
The Gent Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.07 00:27:00 - [159] My clients are still closing randomly today(I play in windowed mode). This is the first I've seriously played since Rev patch last week (just been skill switching since then hoping for repatches) My processor in Intel Pentium 4 HT Processor 570 3.8 GHz so I need to read this thread as it hyperthreading.
Nash Wraithwind Dodge this inc Vanu Space Command	Posted - 2006.12.07 00:37:00 - [160] Originally by: The Gent My clients are still closing randomly today(I play in windowed mode). This is the first I've seriously played since Rev patch last week (just been skill switching since then hoping for repatches) My processor in Intel Pentium 4 HT Processor 570 3.8 GHz so I need to read this thread as it hyperthreading. This thread might save you a bit of reading. Nash

Lockheed19	Posted - 2006.12.07 01:13:00 - [161] Edited by: Lockheed19 on 07/12/2006 01:13:36 Wow, you poor sods. I have [fingers crossed] so far, not had anything like the problems listed in here. And I thought I had it bad when my People & Places took 3 minutes to open up. Hope it works itself out for y'all.
F'lan Ker Caldari EntroPraetorian Legion EntroPraetorian Aegis	Posted - 2006.12.07 07:23:00 - [162] S! I got the crashes to desktop, but that was fixed with help from here. Now EVE decides to reboot the computer after a few minutes in the game. Pretty frustrating, but at least it stays up long enough so I can switch a long skill on My system is an Intel Core2 based one and all drivers, BIOS etc. are latest certified ones with mostly default settings. ----------------------------------------------------- ~Let Chaos Entwine On Defenceless Soil~
Andronas Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.07 08:38:00 - [163] I had this happen to me for the first time at 2am this morning while warping to the Vylade gate, just as i was coming out of warp. Logged back on and it happened five times in all. After logging in again for the sixth time i was able to dock because previously i could not cancel the warp the ship would just head for the gate again and i'd CTD. I quit the game after docking and gave it 30 mins and logged in again, I undocked and warped to the gate. What was weird as i came out of warp i found myself floating in space in Vylade and hadn't jumped through the gate. Did a couple of test warps to gates after and all was ok. Asus K8N-E Deluxe mobo 3x 512 Crucial memory AMD Athlon 64 3400+ DirectX 9.0c Geforce 7800 GS WinXP SP2 RealTek Onboard sound
scruffythedog	Posted - 2006.12.13 13:40:00 - [164] bump.... fingers crossed for a fix today ccp
Visago Gallente Temasek Holdings	Posted - 2006.12.13 16:10:00 - [165] I'm using Intel Core 2 6600 at 2.40 Ghz, 1.00 GB of Ram, on an ASUS mainboard (P5WDH Deluxe), Intel 975X chipset, with onboard audio (Realtek). VGA card is Nvidia based (Geforce 7800GTX) Fixed the BSOD by disabling audio. :(
scruffythedog	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:47:00 - [166] still getting a problem here, if i dont delete img folder and turn off audio my pc reboots at every gate.... NOT happy... CCP...any idea what the problem is?
moralmind Gallente Best Path Inc. Intergalactic Freelance Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:23:00 - [167] yupthey stil didnt fix it i petitioned it awhile back, seems like ccp aint looking at this page if you ask me. deleting the Img file is stil the only way for me to not crash at a gate. but they really need to fix this its abit annoying.
Chezaka Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.15 02:27:00 - [168] I'm still playing without sound myself, no more BSOD's. I don't think the issue has gotten ANY attention from CCP so far, has it? I must say that while i do think battles are not so bad at all with the sound turned off, i don't think this should be the permanent resolve to this problem.......
Arim Duval	Posted - 2007.01.11 08:07:00 - [169] Dual core here also, Core 2 duo 6400, pair of 1 gig ram dual channel. GeForce 7600GT, Realtek on board sound. Haven't crashed on Jump gate, but did get my first reboot in combat.. This is a brand new comp, 3 day old. Hehe. Kind of noticed a lot of people having problem have the Realtek audio.
Alex Marche	Posted - 2007.01.11 11:43:00 - [170] Edited by: Alex Marche on 11/01/2007 11:39:40 I had this problem a few time last week, I was getting BSOD when I was being targetted by NPC rats. Ended up checking the dump log thats found in: c:\windows\minidump\minidump.dmp I had to use the Debugging Tools for Windows to look at the dump file. Debugging Tools for Windows The Debugging Tools, will look through the dump file, that was created when your machine BSOD'ed, and tell you what the problem was caused by. My machine was crashing due to the Realtek Sound drivers, so I disabled sound within EVE and it has stopped any BSOD's I was having. Thought I would tell you all my experiance with this. :)

Akiri Kitami	Posted - 2007.05.05 06:45:00 - [171] Originally by: Agent Li IF YOU HAVE A DUAL CORE PROCESSOR AND ARE RUNNING WIN XP SP2 TRY THIS FIX CCP is saying the same thing (except that they are saying use the Task Manager to set to single core). How can you set the process to single core when simply starting Eve causes the computer to crash.....there is never enough time to access Task Manager and the running processes to even see the Eve Process let alone change any settings for it? At the moment, its start client.....crash, full computer crash and restart... This problem first appeared seriously in about February (I think it was when Vivox was turned on for corps and alliances to test it on Tranquility). Before that the brand new Laptop happily ran the game during December and January. Unable to solve the problems for the Laptop, a desktop has been filling the gap in the meantime......but its monitor has just died...
Deracus Stargazer	Posted - 2007.07.03 11:42:00 - [172] i¦ve read through the whole thread and tried anything (but the dual-core-stuff, because i don¦t have one...but i tried to raise the process-priority...but that didn¦t help) My game CTDs often...very often. I¦m just a trial user and play for around 4-5 days now...but i had already...40 CTDs? (maybe more...but for sure not less)... I don¦t know, what to do...tried every solution posted here...deleted the img folder after logging in...copied the index.dat...disabled sound...played in window mode...lowered sound acceleration...even tried various drivers for my Grafics Card.. (with proper uninstalling of the old with driver cleaner...no pc-noob here ;) )... My system specs are the following: Athlon XP 3200+ 1024 MB DDR 400 Abit NF7-S 2.0 Nforce 2 Ultra 400 Board Ati 9800 with 128 MB VRAM... Sound comes from the NVidia Soundstorm Onboard solution... I run Windows XP Prof. SP 2 with latest patches and drivers... I decided to use the Catalyst 7.1 after testing, because it gave the best result in most apps (running 3D Studio Max so i have to be carefull wich driver to choose ;) )... All tipps don¦t work for me... My client CTDs when warping...after warping...while in combat-missions...while looting wrecks after missions... But...and this ist the strangest part of it: It does not crash at Stargates very often...only sometimes... But warping is a no-go most of the time... Here the last lines of my log: D:\Spiele\EVE-Online\#DARK.2007.07.02.16.38.13.ERRORS.lbw 137482007.07.02 14:37:43:834AsyncPacketSocket::OnRead() 132 bytes read. 0 bytes in mReadBuffer before 137492007.07.02 14:37:43:834sizeOfMessage=128 sizeOfBuffer=132 137502007.07.02 14:37:43:834Reading message, need 128, in buffer 128 137512007.07.02 14:37:43:834this is the last message in the buffer 137522007.07.02 14:37:43:834AsyncSocket::OnRead 128 bytes. result.buffer.Size() = 128 result.error = 0 mReadCont=197 137532007.07.02 14:37:43:834Adding 128 bytes into queue. 1 buffers in queue 137542007.07.02 14:37:43:835AsyncSocket::OnRead: mReadCont = 197, returning 128 bytes to python 137552007.07.02 14:37:43:835Read: Packet::Notification (Address::Node(nodeID="214405",service="None",callID="None"),Address::BroadCast(broadcastID="OnLSC",narrowcast="[]",idtype="solarsystemid2"),117 bytes,[(0, <MarshalStream '~\x00\x00\x00\x00,\x08,\t\x14\x05%,\x11\x98\x04p\xcd\x 137562007.07.02 14:37:43:835- c9\x01\x08\x11]\x14\x05\x04\nH\xb3I\x04G\xb8/1\x15\x03\x04\xcc\xdfB+.\x0cScorpion1980\x05i\x05\x06\x03/\x03\x00`0$'>), None],{}) 137572007.07.02 14:37:43:836BroadcastStuff::Notify( OnLSC ,...) 137582007.07.02 14:37:43:836ScatterEvent( OnLSC ,args= ((('solarsystemid2', 30002544),), 0, 'LeaveChannel', (1236486154, 825210951, [725802956, u'Scorpion1980', 1385], 3, 3170304L), ()) ,*kw= {} ) 137592007.07.02 14:37:43:836Calling <NO CONTEXT>::ScatterEvent_OnLSC::LSC 137602007.07.02 14:37:43:852AsyncSocket::Recv. The input queue is empty will wait for next message, mReadCont = 198 137612007.07.02 14:37:43:868OnLSC( ((('solarsystemid2', 30002544),), 0, 'LeaveChannel', (1236486154, 825210951, [725802956, u'Scorpion1980', 1385], 3, 3170304L), ()) ) 137622007.07.02 14:37:44:521Space::IndicateWarp 137632007.07.02 14:37:44:566Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump being written in C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Deracus\Lokale Einstellungen\Anwendungsdaten\CCP\EVE\#crash b33752 2007.07.02 14.37.44.dmp 137642007.07.02 14:37:44:652Loaded D:/Spiele/EVE-Online/bin/DBGHELP.DLL 137652007.07.02 14:37:45:220MiniDump generated: C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Deracus\Lokale Einstellungen\Anwendungsdaten\CCP\EVE\#crash b33752 2007.07.02 14.37.44.dmp 137662007.07.02 14:37:45:220Exefile SHUTDOWN Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump written in C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\Deracus\Lokale Einstellungen\Anwendungsdaten\CCP\EVE\#crash b33752 2007.07.02 14.37.44.dmp this one crashed after before warping...as you can see...but there are also other crashes...but the 0xC0000005 is the same
Freyer mega mining corporation Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.03 13:00:00 - [173] First off i would like to mention that, even though i would like do, i didn't read all 6 pages of this thread. I am Running a 4600+ X2 Duel core and i haven't had any of these crashes on jumping but i have installed a patch from AMD, Duel core optimizer, from this link "Click Here" please let me know if this helps of not. If it has been mentioned in this thread i am sorry. Also if you would like to go t the page to find the utility instead of just clicking on that link "click here" This patch if for AMD only. Hope it helps Tell me IÆm pretty
WinglessAngelX	Posted - 2007.07.03 13:08:00 - [174] Originally by: duncan senturas what if im having the issue and i dont have a dual core? This problem should also affect any Pentium 4 with Hyper Threading as it emulates 2 processors/dual core senarious. I've used fixes for dual core issues and they've come out working great
Deracus Stargazer	Posted - 2007.07.03 15:16:00 - [175] New Patch same problem....too bade...really hoped for an improvement... The issue is the same, as i stated 3 Posts above...CTD while warping... it seems like i won¦t convert my trial account...too bad...really enjoyed the game and the community even more...
Deracus Stargazer	Posted - 2007.07.03 17:43:00 - [176] it¦s me - again... i worked my way through the logserver...tried something here...and something there... did a search with google about 0xC0000005...here is what i got: 0xC0000005 means an Access-Violation...almost everytime i found a prog with 0xC0000005 error it was about access-violation... So i fired up the logserver and searched the logs of the last 15 crashes...the last action before the statement "Crashed 0xC0000005, minidump being written in" is differs from case to case...sometims it is "Space::IndicateWarp" and sometimes it¦s "Calling <NO CONTEXT>::ScatterEvent_OnStateChange::seamlessmap""....but all actions do have something in common... they use the bin\blue.dll.... Now i don¦t understand, while warping - which utilizes the blue.dll - does work sometimes and sometimes not...it is at least a point to start from...one similarity of my problems ;) I will test and try a bit more...but i do have one wish: Could someone with a working client, that does NOT have the CTD-problem, send me his blue.dll file (upload it on Rapidshare or send me a PM...i will give you my email...) Maybe this helps...if it would help, i could not explain why...but...who cares... if that doesn¦t help...let¦s see what else i can find :D


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