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Militis Kolosok Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.03 05:08:00 - [1] I worked on this setup with my corp mates and alliance to make it a good all-around mission-running and ratting setup. It includes a passive and active tank AT THE SAME TIME! :o A lot of shield regeneration, and when more is needed the booster can be used for 3 minutes before cap runs dry. Here it is: Highs: - 7x 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher (Scourge Heavy Missiles) - 1x Small Tractor Beam I Meds: - 1x Medium Shield Booster II - 2x Named/TII invul fields or rat-specific hardeners - 1x Named/TII Cap Recharger - 2x Large Shield Extender II Lows: - 1x Named Damage Control I - 1x Ballistic Control System - 2x Power Diagnostic System II Let's just say I am running all my active mods besides the booster and sitting at 3100/3700 cap. I am currently doing Guristas Extravaganza (lvl 3) and my shields have not dropped below 80%. I haven't touched the shield booster yet. Anyone got some other good setups? :)
Jehovah Cooper Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.03 05:20:00 - [2] I think this ship begs for a passive tank. Please, please let me passive tank it says. I haven't tried this, but in principal it is not too different from a passive tanked Ferox. I would add another large extender, drop the shield booster and cap charger - maybe another hardner but a target painter would also help pwn those frigates and make the missions go quicker. Trade out the damage control for a shield power relay. Trade a PDS for a another BCU or another SPR if you can fit without it (haven't tried heavy launcher setups on Sisi and no quickfit!). I think 1PDS, 1SPR, 2BCU would be ideal if it fits - if you could fit without the PDS I'd do 2 SPR but I doubt that fits.
Militis Kolosok Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.03 05:29:00 - [3] Edited by: Militis Kolosok on 03/12/2006 05:31:09 I was going to do that as I've had a Ferox for two and a half months and loved its passive tank. But it didn't fit too well & I wanted something new. This works perfectly. It allows to do more damage while I don't have to worry about dying. The passive regen is good enough to keep me up (as I said, have not gone down below 80% yet... on stage 4 of extravaganza now... 2 ships left to kill). I think it can handle a mix. o_O The regen with booster on + passive probably outdoes what passive only can do with 1 more extender and the shield power relay. I haven't calculated it yet really. P.S. My resists with mods active are as follows: Shields: 52/81/71/61 Armor: 64/20/33/51 Structure: 52/52/52/52
Budz Fergie Caldari Caldari Deep Space Ventures Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2006.12.03 09:28:00 - [4] Passive tank it with a t2 invul field and a t2/named damage control. Mine has: 71.1029558228 % em 79.8625 % explosive 71.79375 % kinetic 76.8823646582 % thermal
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.12.03 09:33:00 - [5] Passive tank. I run lvl4s in it. ---------------- Where are the scan probe BPOs?
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.12.03 09:45:00 - [6] Originally by: keepiru Passive tank. I run lvl4s in it. Raven has like twice its damage, so why? :) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Feng Schui Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2006.12.03 10:30:00 - [7] Here is my Drake setup, but, please keep in mind that early on, I was training up for Logistics.. so my capacitor and shield skills are godly. However, my weaponry and missle skills are that of a noob.. and working with Battlecruisers 2) Highs: 7x Arbalest Heavy Launchers 1x Medium 'Knave' NOS Mediums: 1x Large Shield Booster II 1x Invulnerability Shield I (21 hours for tech II) 1x Large Shield Extender II 2x Rat specific Shield Resist Amp II 1x Shield Boost Amp Lows: 1x Psuedo Damage Control 1x Cross Lateral BCU 2x Local Power Plant Manager PDS's With this setup, I can run both the damage control and the invulnerability shield indefinately. I can also use my Shield booster to boost up as needed. I can pretty much tank anything, but I still need to warp out on occassion. Earlier today, I was doing the 3rd "room" in Guristas Extravaganza, and the wonderful Drone AI decided to pull the entire room for me. I was able to kill all of the frigs, and all but 2? of the battlecruisers before I warped out. It has a VERY awesome shield tank on it, but the damage output so far, sucks (keep in mind.. so do my missle / space command skills, lol). Can't wait until start training up my missle skills to fit this beast. Took me 7 hours to get to the 3rd room in Extravaganza, and 1/2 looted before I said **** it....
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.12.03 10:51:00 - [8] Edited by: keepiru on 03/12/2006 10:52:05 Originally by: Jim McGregor Originally by: keepiru Passive tank. I run lvl4s in it. Raven has like twice its damage, so why? :) A Raven is like a rectum, everyone has one and it stinks. Not to mention: 1) Its a raven 1) its more expensive - drake + fitting + insurance is less than raven + insurance 3) its a raven 4) its so incredibly ugly I feel the need to gouge my eyes out every time I see one 5) its a raven 6) i bloody hate cruise/torp missiles 7) its a raven 8) i hate active shield tanking 9) its a raven 10) i don't have caldari bs 1 but I have BC 5 11) its a raven before going to sleep I make a little prayer asking for horrible, horrible things to happen to all raven pilots, irl. ravens going pop is about the only thing that warms my stone-cold little heart ♥ ---------------- Where are the scan probe BPOs?
Majutsu Caldari S.Y.N.D	Posted - 2006.12.03 11:04:00 - [9] Originally by: keepiru 1) Its a raven 3) its a raven 5) its a raven 7) its a raven 9) its a raven 11) its a raven I'm with you there, horrible, ugly things and common as hell. Can't wait to get in a Rokh, until now hadn't bothered to train any Caldari BS as I despise the Raven, was actually training for Mega pre patch.
FFGR Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.03 11:05:00 - [10] keepiru wins thread ? _______ Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.12.03 11:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Majutsu Can't wait to get in a Rokh, until now hadn't bothered to train any Caldari BS as I despise the Raven, was actually training for Mega pre patch. Heh, give it time and all you'll see are Rohks, Drakes and Ravens... if you want to fly uncommon ships, you shouldnt train caldari. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Majutsu Caldari S.Y.N.D	Posted - 2006.12.03 11:16:00 - [12] Keeping my options open, nearly ready for Rail Rokh and still aren't too far off Blasterthron. I've tried to train Caldari and Gallente all the way along, it's meant slower progress, but I have more choice.
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.12.03 11:23:00 - [13] Originally by: Jim McGregor Heh, give it time and all you'll see are Rohks, Drakes and Ravens... if you want to fly uncommon ships, you shouldnt train caldari. Key differences being the Drake and Rokh look good - though that's not saying much compared to a ship that makes a phoon look good - and they aren't even remotely as "easy mode" as the raven. In fact, keeping any kind of active tank going on a rokh after what the guns eat is rather non-trivial, and passive tanks are equally tricky - the damn thing needs cap mods just to fire the guns, that pretty much rules out shield power relays unless you get some heavy riggage and/or use dual 250s. ---------------- Where are the scan probe BPOs?
Militis Kolosok Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:36:00 - [14] Keepiru, or anyone else, how is your passive tank set up? :)
Laughlyn Vaughns Gallente Lagos-Vaughn Industries	Posted - 2006.12.03 19:39:00 - [15] until i can afford 7 dread heavy ;aunchers i have 7 x Heavy Laucnher II 1 x Traccy beam 1 x Dread Guristas EM Amp 1 x Dread Guristas Thermal Amp 4 x Large Shield extender II's 3 x PDU II's 1 Shield Power Relay at peak it gives me 80-85 per second (i did Shield amount/shield regen multiplied by 2.3 to get a peak, others have staeted different but this is average) it gives me roughly a blanket 65-70% just wonderign if anyone has tried it on Lv4 Sansha yet?
Dahak2150 HellBrothers Industries	Posted - 2006.12.03 19:41:00 - [16] I imagine you'd tank it just like a ferox but with one more mid. Why does the "ganky" battlecruiser tank better than the "tanky" battlecruiser? If you're on IE, pretend this is transparent while you get a better browser.
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.12.03 19:49:00 - [17] Originally by: keepiru 1) Its a raven 1) its more expensive - drake + fitting + insurance is less than raven + insurance 3) its a raven 4) its so incredibly ugly I feel the need to gouge my eyes out every time I see one 5) its a raven 6) i bloody hate cruise/torp missiles 7) its a raven 8) i hate active shield tanking 9) its a raven 10) i don't have caldari bs 1 but I have BC 5 11) its a raven 12. Lowsec missioning in Drake = you're left alone, most of the time anyway 13. It's a Raven. A.K.A. "look what I found with my probe, let's kill it" _____ -sig- This is my only char. These are my skills Always question everything, including yourself
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.12.03 19:55:00 - [18] Edited by: Akita T on 03/12/2006 19:57:08 Originally by: Dahak2150 Why does the "ganky" battlecruiser tank better than the "tanky" battlecruiser? 7 heavy missiles + 1 something else (tractor, nos, salvager, whatever) 3 to 4 active/passive mix of hardners + 3 or 2 LSE IIs SPRs to the max, optionally ONE BCU, not more Passive mods only, about 400+ DPS tank vs all damage types with good skills, up to 1000+ vs most/all damage types with T1 rigs (purgers), above 1200 DPS tank vs all damage types with 2 T2 purgers and 1 T1 (can't fit more). A lot more with T2 resist hardners, but you're very NOS-vulnerable. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that above Raven active tank ? :) And that with (possibly) full passive setup. Damage output not so great, but perfect for missioning and/or laughing at solo would-be gankers. _____ -sig- This is my only char. These are my skills Always question everything, including yourself
Militis Kolosok Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.03 21:17:00 - [19] I timed my (active) tank running with everything on. It lasted for 11 minutes 5 seconds with my skills. If I train one more skill for an hour and twenty minutes, I can run it forever. The problem with passive is that I can only fit two shield extender IIs. The third one doesn't fit unless I get advanced weapon upgrades to I. And that will be with two PDS IIs, which means that I won't have room for shield relays. :x
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.12.03 21:38:00 - [20] Edited by: Akita T on 03/12/2006 21:46:36 Originally by: Militis Kolosok The problem with passive is that I can only fit two shield extender IIs. The third one doesn't fit unless I get advanced weapon upgrades to I. And that will be with two PDS IIs, which means that I won't have room for shield relays. :x Do you have heavy assault fitted instead of plain old heavies ? Ok, it's 25% extra damage, but with passive tank I'd rather have range than damage, and it's less grid-intensive anyway. I suppose your problem is with the grid, right ? What level do you have in shield upgrades ? I hope L4 at least, if not L5... and do you have a 'gnome' implant in slot 6 ? I have a -3% one. Listed below are fittings with my skills: 7 heavies (100 MW) 3 LSE2 (128.04MW) I can fit that with a single PDU2 (only about 25MW short without a PDU at all, with 1 PDU2, spare-grid-a-plenty), could fit it without PDU if I got L5 shield upgrades or L2 AWU. Besides, 2 LSEs and 4 harders is fine, just fit 2 EM, 1 kin and 1 therm and you're ok to go. _____ -sig- This is my only char. These are my skills Always question everything, including yourself
Militis Kolosok Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.03 21:58:00 - [21] Edited by: Militis Kolosok on 03/12/2006 22:06:38 Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 03/12/2006 21:46:36 Originally by: Militis Kolosok The problem with passive is that I can only fit two shield extender IIs. The third one doesn't fit unless I get advanced weapon upgrades to I. And that will be with two PDS IIs, which means that I won't have room for shield relays. :x Do you have heavy assault fitted instead of plain old heavies ? Ok, it's 25% extra damage, but with passive tank I'd rather have range than damage, and it's less grid-intensive anyway. I suppose your problem is with the grid, right ? What level do you have in shield upgrades ? I hope L4 at least, if not L5... and do you have a 'gnome' implant in slot 6 ? I have a -3% one. Listed below are fittings with my skills: 7 heavies (100 MW) 3 LSE2 (128.04MW) I can fit that with a single PDU2 (only about 25MW short without a PDU at all, with 1 PDU2, spare-grid-a-plenty), could fit it without PDU if I got L5 shield upgrades or L2 AWU. Besides, 2 LSEs and 4 harders is fine, just fit 2 EM, 1 kin and 1 therm and you're ok to go. I used 7x heavies, and I do have shield upgrades at level 4 (since I can use T2 extenders, that should make sense ). I'm going to put in the gnome implant. I was using a rogue. Thanks for the suggestion! EDIT: Ok, so my launchers take 100 pg and my LSE2s take 128.04 just like yours. Three will not fit, about 10 PG short. I do not have engineering at 5 though, I think its the only thing I need to train up.
Se'la Rox Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.03 22:36:00 - [22] Highs: - 7x XR-3200 Heavy Missile Launcher + Rat-Specific Ammo - 1x Small Tractor Beam I Meds: - 2x Large Shield Extender II - 1x Rat-Specific Hardener II (Primary Rat Damage Type) - 1x Rat-Specific Hardener II (Secondary Rat Damage Type) - 1x Rat-Specific Resistance Amplifier II (Primary Rat Damage Type) Lows: - 1x BCU II - 3x Shield Power Relays
Budz Fergie Caldari Caldari Deep Space Ventures Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2006.12.03 23:29:00 - [23] Edited by: Budz Fergie on 03/12/2006 23:32:03 Here is my latest setup: Highs: 7x 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher 1x Salvager I Mids: Large Shield Booster II Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Amplifier II Invulnerability Field II Ionic Field Accelerator I Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I /w 200's Lows: 2x Ballistic Control System II Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Wavelength Signal Enhancer I with my skills/ship bonus/mods shield resists are now: 72.7072969874 % EM 81.205 % exp 71.8075 % kin 78.1658375899 % therm I like this 1! I have soloed 3x Angel Cheribum bs spawns with it easily!
Charrette Nubs. Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:20:00 - [24] drake is insanely easy to set up for tanking pve stuff. obviously pvp setups would require the use of one or two mid and low slots. high -- 7 named heavy launchers (myself i use tech2 launchers). one utility slot. i dont yet use heavy assault launchers because i resent change. medium -- 3 LSE2's, three hardeners of your choice low -- 3 spr's and 1 pdu or 1 bcu. warning though, spr's reduce your capacitor recharge to practically nothing, so dont mix active and passive setups. 4 spr's and 3 or 4 active hardeners will drain your cap faster than you think.
Militis Kolosok Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:21:00 - [25] Originally by: Charrette drake is insanely easy to set up for tanking pve stuff. obviously pvp setups would require the use of one or two mid and low slots. high -- 7 named heavy launchers (myself i use tech2 launchers). one utility slot. i dont yet use heavy assault launchers because i resent change. medium -- 3 LSE2's, three hardeners of your choice low -- 3 spr's and 1 pdu or 1 bcu. warning though, spr's reduce your capacitor recharge to practically nothing, so dont mix active and passive setups. 4 spr's and 3 or 4 active hardeners will drain your cap faster than you think. I mixed active and passive with mine (well, I had no SPRs though). The passive recharge is pretty awesome and the extra 30 every second from the shield booster is nice when its needed (turn it on at 30% shields and you can tank forever). Will 3 LSE2s + 2 SPRs + 3 hardeners tank better than 2 LSE2s + 30/sec shield recharge from MSB2 + 2 PDS2s?
keepiru Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:34:00 - [26] Depends on your shield skills and setup, and the setup very much depends on AWU level (i have V) and various other fitting skills because PG is so very tight. I cant run T2 launchers so atm I have: 7 Arba Heavy 3 LSE II, 3 Hardeners 3 SPR, PDU/BCU II pretty stock setup really. I cant wait for T2 shield recharge rigs, which will send my recharge from the 100hp/sec zone to the 200hp/sec zone. ---------------- Where are the scan probe BPOs?
Phi Crysae Gallente Evil Personified	Posted - 2006.12.04 03:43:00 - [27] Mission running setup 7x heavy assult launcher 1x tractor beam 1x named 10mn AB 1x large SB II 1x shield boost amp 2x passive hardener 1x large best named shield extender 2x power diagnostic II 2x named BCU
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.04 04:36:00 - [28] Originally by: Militis Kolosok I worked on this setup with my corp mates and alliance to make it a good all-around mission-running and ratting setup. It includes a passive and active tank AT THE SAME TIME! :o A lot of shield regeneration, and when more is needed the booster can be used for 3 minutes before cap runs dry. Here it is: Highs: - 7x 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher (Scourge Heavy Missiles) - 1x Small Tractor Beam I Meds: - 1x Medium Shield Booster II - 2x Named/TII invul fields or rat-specific hardeners - 1x Named/TII Cap Recharger - 2x Large Shield Extender II Lows: - 1x Named Damage Control I - 1x Ballistic Control System - 2x Power Diagnostic System II Let's just say I am running all my active mods besides the booster and sitting at 3100/3700 cap. I am currently doing Guristas Extravaganza (lvl 3) and my shields have not dropped below 80%. I haven't touched the shield booster yet. Anyone got some other good setups? :) Drop booster and cap recharger and invulns, replace with 3rd extender, and 3 racial hardeners, 2kin 1 therm for guristas for example. Drop Damage control unit for 2nd BCU, and drop a PDU for a SPr for slightly better peak shield regen. And get T2 launchers when able. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.04 04:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Dahak2150 I imagine you'd tank it just like a ferox but with one more mid. Why does the "ganky" battlecruiser tank better than the "tanky" battlecruiser? No idea but I'd gladly drop the resists for the dmg to go back to rof. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Militis Kolosok Caldari Praetorian Black Guard Serenus Letum	Posted - 2006.12.04 06:55:00 - [30] Edited by: Militis Kolosok on 04/12/2006 06:57:40 Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Militis Kolosok I worked on this setup with my corp mates and alliance to make it a good all-around mission-running and ratting setup. It includes a passive and active tank AT THE SAME TIME! :o A lot of shield regeneration, and when more is needed the booster can be used for 3 minutes before cap runs dry. Here it is: Highs: - 7x 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher (Scourge Heavy Missiles) - 1x Small Tractor Beam I Meds: - 1x Medium Shield Booster II - 2x Named/TII invul fields or rat-specific hardeners - 1x Named/TII Cap Recharger - 2x Large Shield Extender II Lows: - 1x Named Damage Control I - 1x Ballistic Control System - 2x Power Diagnostic System II Let's just say I am running all my active mods besides the booster and sitting at 3100/3700 cap. I am currently doing Guristas Extravaganza (lvl 3) and my shields have not dropped below 80%. I haven't touched the shield booster yet. Anyone got some other good setups? :) Drop booster and cap recharger and invulns, replace with 3rd extender, and 3 racial hardeners, 2kin 1 therm for guristas for example. Drop Damage control unit for 2nd BCU, and drop a PDU for a SPr for slightly better peak shield regen. And get T2 launchers when able. Yeah, that's what everyone is saying, but what's the point? It can run infinitely if I train just 1 more skill (which I will in a couple of weeks). Also, I am about 10 pg short of accomplishing what you recommend (after I drop the booster and the cap charger). :s EDIT: I will try it when I get advanced weapon upgrades :) I can see why it would work better now (as it did on the ferox), but yeah, tough to fit that. Will have to keep the PDS IIs. -KolosoK-

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