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Shawn Tivianne The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.07.27 16:22:39 - [1] - Quote So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time.
Azda Ja Green Skull LLC 4201	Posted - 2015.07.27 16:32:03 - [2] - Quote I think faction warfare is good for that. With a little prior preparation once in a while, (hauling ships and mods in) you can have a stack of frigates ready to go at a moment's notice. Undock, go find a fight, log when needed/wanted. Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting. Grrr I tell you. Grrr.
Xtreem Echelon Research SpaceMonkey's Alliance 366	Posted - 2015.07.27 16:41:00 - [3] - Quote in honesty, with difficulty. I am not old (33) but I have 4 kids, wife, dogs, full time and evil job etc, I find my time suffering, a good corp will support you through the hard times :-)
DaReaper Net 7 2434	Posted - 2015.07.27 17:02:10 - [4] - Quote it really depends on what you want to do. With a decent corp you could do anything. if sites are scanne din wh's you coudl quickly mine some gas, run a few sleeper sits, make an empire run, etc/ if you are a miner its stupid simple to mine for a few hours misison running is rather easy as well pvp is easy if your corp is active and have lots of fleets, just jump in and go. you;d only have issues if you are soloing in some places tbh OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining! Yes i am optimistic about eve.. i'm giving it till dec 31st 2016 before i doom n gloom
Deitra Vess Scope Works 511	Posted - 2015.07.27 17:40:00 - [5] - Quote For me as a single parent, mainly pvp oriented, I just play for a few hours after my daughter goes to sleep. Generally on nights she doesn't sleep well I take less essential roles in fleets so I can dock and deal with whatever is the problem or jump to a safe (I've come to have a lot of them). As far as funding anything I do a ton of passive income (PI, research agents, manufacturing, and trade on one character) on 4 characters to fund this one, log on for a half hour when she goes down for a nap. Once every 4 months or so I sell a plex to bolster what I can do. Isn't exactly the best way to do it but works alright.
Labaianoch The Scope Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2015.07.27 17:42:22 - [6] - Quote Hell I'm turning 40 this year and as soon as I resubbed after a year absence my wife's first question was, "When do you have time for eve?" I mostly find myself using my mining alt. I live in a system with plenty of ice belts. Plenty easy really with a skiff and good skills to lower the cycle time. 40 mins to an hour = some ice or rocks. With more time I'll run some simple mishs's or low level plexs with my main or do a a market run with my market alt. All depends. I've found I don't really have time for corps. Corps deserve to have someone that's gonna be able to give them at least an hour a day and, coming from living in low and 0.0 way back, I was never of any real value to those guys and it made me feel guilty. Had to remind myself I didn't need a game becoming an actual responsibility. That's the curse of corps. I don't want to feel obligated to anyone by myself and my RL family. I'm a simple man when it comes to eve. Been here since 2010, on and off, I still don't understand half of the features I could be using (D-scan anyone? I don't get it...), don't understand all the complicated crap with sov and aggression rules and timers and blah blah. Most fun I've had is helping new guys and randomly donating isk to them. Some days, I just like looking at my ship, the surroundings, even just logging in and having it on in the background. The station sounds are simple entertainment for me. Its the best Sci fi sim I've ever seen. For the record, I don't afk anything either ...besides staring at my ship in hangar while folding laundry. Meh. My time may be limited, but my money is the same as every one else's. If you start to feel like its becoming a second job that you have to pay money to work at, its time for a break.
Mister McQueen WiNGSPAN Delivery Services 0	Posted - 2015.07.27 17:44:32 - [7] - Quote Two kids and a full time job mean I have to be ready to log out at any given time and exploration is perfect for that. My time in game is usually spent running sites until I'm called away, then I simply log off in space. I can always pick up where I left off. As mentioned previously, a good corp helps. Answering your batphone to help your corp mates out in a fight is real easy with jump clones, also.
Kiandoshia Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance 2306	Posted - 2015.07.27 17:56:26 - [8] - Quote I literally don't play anymore. Just paying to keep it installed =x
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 8850	Posted - 2015.07.27 18:44:03 - [9] - Quote Quote: Playing on limited time/ Older gamers. How do you play?? Being an old fashioned guy, I use the joystick from my Atari 2600. I've heard that the combination of a mouse and a keyboard is superior but I just don't believe it. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Shawn Tivianne The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2015.07.27 18:57:50 - [10] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: Quote: Playing on limited time/ Older gamers. How do you play?? Being an old fashioned guy, I use the joystick from my Atari 2600. I've heard that the combination of a mouse and a keyboard is superior but I just don't believe it. Mr Epeen Now thats what i was looking for! :-)

Alt Pilot1 Hysera Innovations 0	Posted - 2015.07.27 19:18:44 - [11] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. 2 hours is probably enough for a small gang roam. But if you have only 1 hour, or have to be called away on notice, then I'd say PvP wise you can just do some solo roaming in a cloaky. Or maybe solo bubble camp with a battlecruiser / cloaky. Or you can get into a supercap, and just respond to supercap engagements when you have free time. And also what other people said about PvE.
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1082	Posted - 2015.07.27 20:12:04 - [12] - Quote Full time job, EUTZ. How do I play? Solo roaming from Thera plus being ready to jump into an interesting NPSI fleet. Mostly on weekends, sometimes after work for 2-3 hours. PvP intention only. Funding by clone tags, friendly loot fairy and the occasional Mordus special unit drop. I'm my own NPC alt.
flakeys Arkham Innovations 3130	Posted - 2015.07.27 20:20:36 - [13] - Quote Faction warfare solo or pirating solo is a perfect option for casual pvp.You can log off anytime you want to if you pirate and if you have some isk to throw around you can set up different bases.I haven't played the last year because of ''lack of interest'' but the last time i played i did FW and solo pirating.The solo pirating was perfect for me with 6 different stations filled with frigs and cruisers i could just log on and pewpew.If i lost a ship i could allways reship within at most 4 jumps. Solo hunting in wormholes with a bomber is also an option , though that is something i never liked much but i do know some casual players who do that on a daily base and who quite enjoy it. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
flakeys Arkham Innovations 3130	Posted - 2015.07.27 20:26:32 - [14] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: Quote: Playing on limited time/ Older gamers. How do you play?? Being an old fashioned guy, I use the joystick from my Atari 2600. I've heard that the combination of a mouse and a keyboard is superior but I just don't believe it. Mr Epeen Tssk atari , die hard commodore64 here ... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 11030	Posted - 2015.07.27 20:35:07 - [15] - Quote as others have said, a corp of people in or around the same age bracket, with a peak time in or around when you typically have time free is what you are after. most of us in Devil's are family men and find the time when we can, i would be one of the younger ones so i manage by forgoing sleep but that's just because i enjoy buzzing with the yanks in the alliance. eve being eve has more adults than not so its unlikely anyone will hold it against you when irl gets in the way. shop around, chat to people ingame doing what you are interested in when you are on-line and you should find something eventually. though i found being able to scout myself around with a second account makes for a much easier time of it (less reliant on sticking with the lads if i have to go afk or log mid roam) =]\|[=
flakeys Arkham Innovations 3130	Posted - 2015.07.27 20:39:57 - [16] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: as others have said, a corp of people in or around the same age bracket, with a peak time in or around when you typically have time free is what you are after. most of us in Devil's are family men and find the time when we can, i would be one of the younger ones so i manage by forgoing sleep but that's just because i enjoy buzzing with the yanks in the alliance. eve being eve has more adults than not so its unlikely anyone will hold it against you when irl gets in the way. shop around, chat to people ingame doing what you are interested in when you are on-line and you should find something eventually. though i found being able to scout myself around with a second account makes for a much easier time of it (less reliant on sticking with the lads if i have to go afk or log mid roam) There used to be a corp called ''the older gamers'' wich also resided in a lot of other games.I know back then , talking about 7 years ago or so , they used to live in null-sec though i am unsure if they even still exist in eve.That said i can imagine BRAVE , karmafleet or pandemic horde also being for casual gamers. Question is if the OP rather flies around solo in low-sec or blob in null-sec. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 11031	Posted - 2015.07.27 20:49:17 - [17] - Quote flakeys wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: as others have said, a corp of people in or around the same age bracket, with a peak time in or around when you typically have time free is what you are after. most of us in Devil's are family men and find the time when we can, i would be one of the younger ones so i manage by forgoing sleep but that's just because i enjoy buzzing with the yanks in the alliance. eve being eve has more adults than not so its unlikely anyone will hold it against you when irl gets in the way. shop around, chat to people ingame doing what you are interested in when you are on-line and you should find something eventually. though i found being able to scout myself around with a second account makes for a much easier time of it (less reliant on sticking with the lads if i have to go afk or log mid roam) There used to be a corp called ''the older gamers'' wich also resided in a lot of other games.I know back then , talking about 7 years ago or so , they used to live in null-sec though i am unsure if they even still exist in eve.That said i can imagine BRAVE , karmafleet or pandemic horde also being for casual gamers. Question is if the OP rather flies around solo in low-sec or blob in null-sec. From what I can tell anyway a lot of the other high sec mercenary Corps seem to be populated by players a little older as well. also, restricted time to play doesn't necessarily mean casual, I stay fairly clued in even on extended breaks fom the game. =]\|[=
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6843	Posted - 2015.07.27 21:46:01 - [18] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: flakeys wrote: Ralph King-Griffin wrote: as others have said, a corp of people in or around the same age bracket, with a peak time in or around when you typically have time free is what you are after. most of us in Devil's are family men and find the time when we can, i would be one of the younger ones so i manage by forgoing sleep but that's just because i enjoy buzzing with the yanks in the alliance. eve being eve has more adults than not so its unlikely anyone will hold it against you when irl gets in the way. shop around, chat to people ingame doing what you are interested in when you are on-line and you should find something eventually. though i found being able to scout myself around with a second account makes for a much easier time of it (less reliant on sticking with the lads if i have to go afk or log mid roam) There used to be a corp called ''the older gamers'' wich also resided in a lot of other games.I know back then , talking about 7 years ago or so , they used to live in null-sec though i am unsure if they even still exist in eve.That said i can imagine BRAVE , karmafleet or pandemic horde also being for casual gamers. Question is if the OP rather flies around solo in low-sec or blob in null-sec. From what I can tell anyway a lot of the other high sec mercenary Corps seem to be populated by players a little older as well. also, restricted time to play doesn't necessarily mean casual, I stay fairly clued in even on extended breaks fom the game. That lends to my theory that highsec PVP in the form of dec stacking is merely due to travel mechanics of nullsec sucking the big one. You can get highsec PVP without having to spend 90 percent of the time travelling around bubble camps and BLOPS drops (and the rest of the time getting blobbed) fairly quickly. Anything "worse" and I think the older players looking to shoot and get shot would have to quit Eve and play an FPS game to get the daily pew fix. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Marsha Mallow 2398	Posted - 2015.07.27 21:47:49 - [19] - Quote 1-2 hours sounds like plenty to me, even if it's just per month. It's not a race, and tbh I look on people playing for 10 hours a day with some disapproval if they try make it look normal and talk down to everyone else. It's not and they'll burn out faster than people who manage their time. There aren't many people who have been playing for 5+ years who have maintained consistent activity to that degree (and those who have are gibbering loonies who were 11 when they first subbed, and still are). This myth that EvE is only for hardcore nerds willing to commit to x hours per day is a problem and needs to be demolished - and the corps/players promoting it need to be dragged into the spotlight for a kicking. +1 to everything said earlier, FW or the newbro groups (they take vets too), RVB and the NPSI fleets. Also Signal Cartel - haven't heard anything but good things about them so far (explo/social corp). I'd take Ralph's advice though and join a likeminded corp, even if it takes a while to find. It does help being self-suffiicient enough that you can dock up mid-fleet and (they don't go mental) then either firesale the ship or evac it yourself using alts or w/e. Labaianoch wrote: I've found I don't really have time for corps. Corps deserve to have someone that's gonna be able to give them at least an hour a day and, coming from living in low and 0.0 way back, I was never of any real value to those guys and it made me feel guilty. Had to remind myself I didn't need a game becoming an actual responsibility. That's the curse of corps. This sentiment is depressingly common and I've seen a few corpies cite this as a reason (despite protestations that nobody is bothered how many hours they clock), then stop playing altogether. I've never been part of a group that enforces a certain number of hours activity per week/month (or kills per member) and any time it's mentioned I leap about in outrage, but it's an ongoing battle. It's hard to tell if other people in corp/alliance are making snide remarks at the 'casuals' and you just miss it, but it seems really unlikely. It seems to be more an assumption from the person involved that they have certain obligations that aren't being met. There's really no need to apologise for having a busy job, a family etc. All groups have members in transit - if they lose a major campaign or fight it's really unlikely it's your fault because your child had a tummy bug and you didnt get on for a week, lol. It is worth not being a ghost in a corp because you feel guilty about being on less than others. If anything ideally make a point of being friendly, even if it's tiresome at first. If you get online, say hello, pop in comms for 5 minutes and talk to the people there. Invest the time here if you have it, as and when, without being a comms/forum lurker with nil ingame activity (there is an extreme version which isn't ideal - but it all depends on the individual). Corps aren't likely to purge you or even remark on low activity if they actually remember you, but they will ditch the ghosts because nobody feels bad about purging someone they never interracted with. It is worth being on the ball and having all ships fitted and ready to go, so you're not a casual player who is only known for being an annoyance. So getting settup takes a while. Other than that all reasonably sized corps have a % of players who are either weekend warriors or can only get on once a week (or less). It's not a massive problem, and it's not something you should feel bad about. Corps and alliances who list their planned ops in advance on forums or use jabber pings are handy for this too. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: TO THE PITCHFORKMOBILE! Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread Jenn aSide wrote: does anyone have any assless chaps I could borrow?
Cyber SGB Mecha Enterprises Fleet 101	Posted - 2015.07.28 00:43:34 - [20] - Quote I'm in a Low Sec/FW corp. If we're in a fleet doing whatever and you gotta go, you just say, gotta go and that's it. Everyone understands, because everyone has real life obligations. I write Kindle books. Visit my author page. http://amazon.com/author/sgbynum

Carrie-Anne Moss Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective 360	Posted - 2015.07.28 01:21:06 - [21] - Quote Suicide Gank
Velarra 428	Posted - 2015.07.28 02:25:58 - [22] - Quote Clicked on thread link wondering if you were referring to players with a few years left in the game... 'Realized it wasn't that cold and dark a thread.
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 2254	Posted - 2015.07.28 02:35:23 - [23] - Quote Get home from work, crack open a beer. Check up on current wars. Open a beer. Chatter with anyone else who's awake on comms. Open a beer. Have a smoke. Look for people to shoot. Open a beer. Do bloody murder when I find them. Open a beer. Do more murder if targets still available. Open a beer. If not, mess around with ship fitting for a while. Log off once beer is gone. Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Michael Ruckert Hohere Kavallerie-Kommando 333	Posted - 2015.07.28 04:01:25 - [24] - Quote Define "older gamers". Bunch of whiney "young" whippersnappers posting here! "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier
Doctor Knuckles Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 141	Posted - 2015.07.28 07:35:10 - [25] - Quote 33, working like a beast. I'm in low sec, in a great corp operating in FW. I play any amount of time between 1 and 3-3something hours in the evening, if at all, i can go a week without logging on. The area suits my playstyle perfectly, i can roam solo and fight fights, i can get into a gang and go look for trouble, or if there's a proper fleet up it' usually doesn't last past my bedtime. Main problem to be honest is ISK, i have the means to raise it (incursion alt) but with the limited free time i usually end up going out to PvP rather than spend time replenishing my funds, so from time to time i gotta buy a plex. FW isk raising is so mind numbingly boring i just don't give a ****, and pretty much all the LPs i rack up are from kills
Webvan All Kill No Skill 11556	Posted - 2015.07.28 07:50:26 - [26] - Quote Powered by: Beer inside. Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 1415	Posted - 2015.07.28 07:51:24 - [27] - Quote Carrie-Anne Moss wrote: Suicide Gank Indeed, suicide ganking is quite nice if you have limited time to play. There are always targets around. Just login and dunk some miners and quit again whenever you want. If you have enough time, maybe join a fleet and dunk some big stuff. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
vccv 65	Posted - 2015.07.28 08:12:25 - [28] - Quote Same as others. Beer Fitting Beer Roaming Beer Dying Beer Trading Beer Refitting Log off. Ganking bears just seems boring to me. I prefer my video games to have some form of challenge.
Karl Jerr Herzack Unit 102	Posted - 2015.07.28 11:16:43 - [29] - Quote Mostly exploration, which you can do with limited time, also Pve. Since I also treat Eve like a multiplayer management game, I like to manage my little corp and do industry for fun + some (failed) trade Pvp for a passive income, independent of your game time, PI is also perfect. Not a staggering amount of isk, but like someone said; it isn't a race. FI: I can only play about 1-2hrs on the week and 2 hours the weekend.
Kaivar Lancer Garoun Investment Bank 670	Posted - 2015.07.28 11:23:55 - [30] - Quote Solo low-sec seems to be casual-friendly. If you're after ISKies, just rat in belts and warp out whenever you want. The money's comparable to running Level 4s, especially from dropped security tags. For solo fights, if you're a pirate, hang around the FW systems and you can usually find a fight within 15 minutes.

Wacktopia Noir. No Not Believing 803	Posted - 2015.07.28 13:43:11 - [31] - Quote Find people similar to yourself who understand and can work with your game play style? In your corp or alliance, Introduce a structure that supports people only playing in small bursts. Things such as pre-planned ops and encouragement to turn up and train for a short period of time can help. In general I see many people who fall out of the be-on-all-night-every-night category and into the can-play-for-two-hours-twice-a-week pool. Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com
IcyMind Arierep Chaotic Tranquility Lethal Intent. 17	Posted - 2015.07.28 14:19:34 - [32] - Quote Xtreem wrote: in honesty, with difficulty. I am not old (33) but I have 4 kids, wife, dogs, full time and evil job etc, I find my time suffering, a good corp will support you through the hard times :-) I can't bealive I agree with an SMA, but same here . I got family and job, still find time to play eve. Consider eve as part of a hobby. I usually do small gangs, is easier to manage. Big operations you don't know how long it takes. Eve has a lot to offer for any type of player.
Kimmi Chan Tastes Like Purple 1837	Posted - 2015.07.28 14:19:58 - [33] - Quote I find that the same way I budget my money, I have to budget my time. I find it helpful to actually use a calendar to sit down and define when I am going to do this and when I am going to do that. There really is no such thing as "free" time. There is unscheduled time, but it isn't "free". "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game!
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 11971	Posted - 2015.07.28 14:43:33 - [34] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. I'm 41, married (again) and I've got kids, step kids and a couple of step grand kids plus a job where I'm never really off duty and subject to call back at any time except approved vacation time. I live in Null (Wicked Creek) with 3 characters except this one (till next week). So I plan ahead, I don't fly anything I can't afford to lose, if i know I might have to log and im going to join a roam, I take a ceptor. I put travel/survival type fits in ALL ships above t1. For example we use the Cerberus a lot now, my cerb has a Mobil depot, a proto type cloak, I-stabs and warp core stabs and an ecm burst in the cargo hold. If i'm on a roam or CTA or whatever and duty calls, I just log off and make my way home next time I log in. I've sometimes brought in a scout alt for extra safety. ALL my pvp T3 doctrine ships have nullifer and covert subs+ cloak in cargo. Push comes to shove and I have to be offline for a while, if I come back and whatever null space I was living in belongs to someone else, I see if I can get a 3rtd party to haul my stuff out, or firesell it all. It's just pixerls and isk can buy more stuff later. Everything is possible via planning, thinking ahead and the right attitude.
Orlacc 907	Posted - 2015.07.28 15:03:27 - [35] - Quote I am probably one of the oldest farts playing EVE. I like exploration for a quick adventure or two. And isk. "Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Tiddle Jr Galvanized Inc. 350	Posted - 2015.07.28 15:29:59 - [36] - Quote Got a full family - wife and two daughters, an appartments, working by rotations 28/28 in one of the major oil monsters. Playing mostly arround DT. Making people happy by selling pimped ships. One man corp. Eve billionaire. This game drives me, still.
Commander Spurty Dimension Door We need wards. 1529	Posted - 2015.07.28 16:00:54 - [37] - Quote Sit in High Sec and run Cosmic Anoms / Mine and run missions is 'the least optimal ships possible' just to keep it interesting. Made a lot of ISK just with pure 'luck' in these limited game play time windows. There are good ships And wood ships And ships that sail the sea But the best ships are Spaceships Built by CCP
Vel'drinn Sanguine Vipers 41	Posted - 2015.07.28 16:26:51 - [38] - Quote FW seems to be the place to be for that 'instant action' mindset. With wife, kid, house and what not this worked out best for me. Came out of a 2 year WH cycle that honestly felt like a lot of work fueling towers in and spending too much time looking for pew. Don't have time for that anymore these days. Join Amarr today!
Kimmi Chan Tastes Like Purple 1840	Posted - 2015.07.28 17:18:57 - [39] - Quote Commander Spurty wrote: Sit in High Sec and run Cosmic Anoms / Mine and run missions in 'the least optimal ships possible' just to keep it interesting. Made a lot of ISK just with pure 'luck' in these limited game play time windows. I have a Gallente alt that flies a Fed Navy Comet with the 5-0 skin of course! . It carries 30m^3 of drones. So 3 mining drones and 3 salvage drones. I run L2 missions in that ship and salvage all the wrecks and then mine whatever asteroids are in the Deadspace complex until the hold is full. Just to do something different. "Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game!
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 16452	Posted - 2015.07.28 17:22:59 - [40] - Quote When I can. If I need to go in the middle of an op then sucks to be me, I just have to make my own way home. In the end, its only pixels. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship

Baaldor Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion. 428	Posted - 2015.07.28 17:59:01 - [41] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. Older? wtf is older? We are playing a video game.
Shawn Tivianne The Scope Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:04:23 - [42] - Quote Thanks for all the replies. I didn't expect such a response. I'm just coming back from about a year away from EVE. Joined a nullsec sov corp. I kinda just feel like im not enough help for the corp/ alliance. Everything just takes so long and I don't have time to sit around waiting for something to happen. I do like so many different aspects of the game tho. I feel like I need to find a corp that im free to do what I want in. Go to high, low, and null sec whenever I want. PVP when I want. Exploration when I want. Run a mission or ratting if I want, test out new ships and such.
Shawn Tivianne The Scope Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:07:48 - [43] - Quote Baaldor wrote: Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. Older? wtf is older? We are playing a video game. Older for me would be 30+. But this is a video game like no other. I can't really play other games much. Too soft and fluffy.
Baaldor Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion. 428	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:19:27 - [44] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: Baaldor wrote: Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. Older? wtf is older? We are playing a video game. Older for me would be 30+. But this is a video game like no other. I can't really play other games much. Too soft and fluffy. I started playing when i was 38, i have been at it over 10 years. I have several ex wives, wife, passel of kids, dogs, cats, am a grand pa, and I run a company which is 40 miles from my house....where i have to commute through Houston. Granted I have not been on for two weeks due to re-writing a QMS for ISO 9001 and SAR's for my company, i still find time to play. It does not require hours on end. Once you have it squared away you can maximize your game play if you just focus on what you want to do.

CCP Falcon 12241	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:21:31 - [45] - Quote I came to work at CCP... now no one can berate me for playing EVE! CCP Falcon \|\| EVE Universe Community Manager \|\| @CCP_Falcon Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3

Deck Cadelanne 181	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:30:14 - [46] - Quote 44, house, dog, family, job, lots of hobbies. I log on when I can (which means at random times and not every day basically) and play for anything from ten minutes to two hours usually. All I really do is PVP out of NPC null. I suppose I'll occasionally do something else, like a mission or a site, but not very often. I am lucky to fly with a group that is pretty much 24x7 in terms of folks being active and can usually join in a casual small gang roam or other PVP activity. I was way more active my first few months in the game, and built up a pile of ISK I am steadily burning through. When the ISK runs out, I suppose I'll have to face the grim reality of either playing the game "for real" to grind isk (about as appealing as a root canal, frankly) or paying cash for a few PLEX and selling them in game. I was also far more motivated when I had several RL friends playing, and would coordinate time to play together...but they all quit, so... *"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."* - Hunter S. Thompson
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 6849	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:30:47 - [47] - Quote Baaldor wrote: Granted I have not been on for two weeks due to re-writing a QMS for ISO 9001 and SAR's for my company, i still find time to play. It does not require hours on end. Once you have it squared away you can maximize your game play if you just focus on what you want to do. ISO 9001 - you end up in a padded cell yet? Will they let you play Eve from there? Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Baaldor Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion. 429	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:34:05 - [48] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Baaldor wrote: Granted I have not been on for two weeks due to re-writing a QMS for ISO 9001 and SAR's for my company, i still find time to play. It does not require hours on end. Once you have it squared away you can maximize your game play if you just focus on what you want to do. ISO 9001 - you end up in a padded cell yet? Will they let you play Eve from there? My staff brings me brownies....not sure what is in them, but by 15:00 i am feeling pretty damn good.
Faenir Antollare The Idiot Kings Get Off My Lawn 383	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:34:35 - [49] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. As a Widower, a Father and a Grandfather, a home owner a dog owner and a cat owner too, with all the responsibility that goes with the job I choose my times carefully, but, I choose who I fly with even more so. You just have to manage your own time to the point where your game time is both viable and enjoyable and so long as that does not detract from your families needs then you are good to go mate. Don't dwell on it..only you yourself will know how much is too much and if your kids and home are a happy combo then you are doing it right. Les RiP BooBoo 26/7/1971 - 23/7/2014 My Lady My Love My Life My Wife
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 11975	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:37:33 - [50] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: . I can't really play other games much. Too soft and fluffy. EVE does tend to ruin some of us for other games. I have tried many other games, but the fact that they are so 'forgiving' (ie worst thing that happens in many games when you die is a bit of a walk back to where you died lol) means they don't have the same emotional impact on me that EVE does.

Rowells ANZAC ALLIANCE Fidelas Constans 2646	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:40:20 - [51] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: I came to work at CCP... now no one can berate me for playing EVE! "Sorry babe, I'm working right now!" How far can that excuse be stretched?
Baaldor Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion. 435	Posted - 2015.07.28 18:57:48 - [52] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Shawn Tivianne wrote: . I can't really play other games much. Too soft and fluffy. EVE does tend to ruin some of us for other games. I have tried many other games, but the fact that they are so 'forgiving' (ie worst thing that happens in many games when you die is a bit of a walk back to where you died lol) means they don't have the same emotional impact on me that EVE does. This was my first online game. everything i look at now just sucks balls.
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 1102	Posted - 2015.07.28 19:11:04 - [53] - Quote ... also very handy to carry probing equipment fitted or with depot in cargo. A good dozen times I've probed my way back to empire space from somewhere deep in null. I'm my own NPC alt.
Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 11978	Posted - 2015.07.28 19:13:49 - [54] - Quote Tipa Riot wrote: ... also very handy to carry probing equipment fitted or with depot in cargo. A good dozen times I've probed my way back to empire space from somewhere deep in null. That slapping sound you just heard was me hitting my forehead while saying "why didn't I think of that?" lol.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 22565	Posted - 2015.07.28 19:26:12 - [55] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: I came to work at CCP... now no one can berate me for playing EVE! ::Challenge Accepted:: Maybe you should be PLAYING less and WORKING more. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Saisin Chao3's Rogue Operatives Corp Chao3 Alliance 276	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:21:06 - [56] - Quote I am 50, and I am lucky enough to be able to fully manage my work schedule as I want during the week. I mostly work week ends. Some days I can play 6 hours straight, others 1 or 2 hours, or some hours far in between. My pilots are always logged and I keep Eve up and running until downtime. I mostly play this game for its PvP aspect and I play solo nowadays. I do not care anymore about plexing my accounts. When I was sedentary in a c3, I used to do that and not pay for my game time but since last year I have decided to sub all my accounts as a sign of support to CCP for the new directions they are heading to, and chose to become a nomad in New Eden. I have sold all my game assets a few weeks back, getting around 10 billions to fund my expeditions in New Eden. "surrender your ego, be free". innuendo. solo? There is a new hope...
V1r4L B00sh Kill Them With Kindness 0	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:22:43 - [57] - Quote FW is where I spend my time. 20 minutes to play? I can get blown up twice in that time. :D
flakeys Arkham Innovations 3145	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:23:47 - [58] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Shawn Tivianne wrote: . I can't really play other games much. Too soft and fluffy. EVE does tend to ruin some of us for other games. I have tried many other games, but the fact that they are so 'forgiving' (ie worst thing that happens in many games when you die is a bit of a walk back to where you died lol) means they don't have the same emotional impact on me that EVE does. I used to play every mmorpg that came out untill i tried eve 11 years ago.Since then the only other multiplayers i play are games like FIFA or battlefield as anything remotely close to an mmorpg is a major turnoff. At times i truly wish i never did give eve a try .... We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
flakeys Arkham Innovations 3145	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:25:47 - [59] - Quote V1r4L B00sh wrote: FW is where I spend my time. 20 minutes to play? I can get blown up twice in that time. :D Aye that is my experience from FW as i said earlier.Just log on and find a fight within a few minutes. Granted there are days where you can't get a fight while roaming for 2 hours unless you like to get blobbed. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Baaldor Dixon Cox Butte Preservation Society Black Legion. 437	Posted - 2015.07.28 20:26:17 - [60] - Quote V1r4L B00sh wrote: FW is where I spend my time. 20 minutes to play? I can get blown up twice in that time. :D Glad to see you pacing your self.

Cypherous Liberty Rogues Aprilon Dynasty 152	Posted - 2015.07.29 00:02:06 - [61] - Quote I mostly just play with NPSI guys, roams tend to be short so i get pew pew and can leave at any time, seems to work for me, none of this mandatory OP or CTA junk of null sec and lots of cheap pew pew
Anthar Thebess 1242	Posted - 2015.07.29 08:47:17 - [62] - Quote I login my accounts and come to PC when i have some free time - so people see me constantly online , but i am like 10% of this time actually doing something. (this is good as logging to eve take some time) Bad thing is that most of the fleet leave when my kid don't sleep , but RL >>> EVE. But yes , i miss PAUSE button in this game :D Capital Remote AID Rebalance Way to solve important nullsec issue. CSM members do your work.
Barrogh Habalu Forever Winter Absolute Zero. 970	Posted - 2015.07.29 09:42:11 - [63] - Quote CCP Falcon wrote: I came to work at CCP... now no one can berate me for playing EVE! But instead, you are getting called out on not playing the game every now and then, whether it's true or not OT: If everything else fails, playing Skill Training Offline saves the day (week / month / more) Future of T3 cruisers - multi-tool they aspired to be instead of sledgehammer they have become
Valkyriane Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx 4	Posted - 2015.07.29 09:42:23 - [64] - Quote Wife, kids, fulltime job.. I take playtime out of sleepytime. Others sleep, I play. I like to kill stuff.. and stuff.
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 2632	Posted - 2015.07.29 10:18:55 - [65] - Quote 45, 2 kids, gaming since the Pong. Secret of gaming when you're older, have kids, etc : * Always keep the wife happy (coffee, flowers, tell her she looks good, notice the new haircut, etc). * Always tell them they're more important then some space game (even if you dont think that). * Keep playing when they go to bed. * Adapt to the lack of sleep. * Have the pc in the living room for easy adapting. And remember the secret words passed on for generations ..... "Yes dear". DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !
Lady Areola Fappington 2660	Posted - 2015.07.29 11:46:19 - [66] - Quote I've made sure to schedule some "me time" during the week, where I just do whatever it is I want to do at the time. I've found that most people give recreation and downtime very low priority when it comes to day to day living, and that's just not healthy at all. You've got to set aside some time just for yourself, and consider that time to be just as important as, say, your job. That's how I manage to play Eve with a full-time and then some job, a spouse, family, etc... 7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided. --Eve New Player Guide
Blacksuns Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy.. 27	Posted - 2015.07.29 12:22:42 - [67] - Quote 27, a daughter, a wife, a fulltime job, a sideline and hobby's. Obviously dedicating a lot of time to RL shizzle. But whenever the ladies are sleeping it's time to chillax and play Eve. Which is a good 2 or 3 hours during the week and about 4 to 5 during the weekend. If I don't get the pew I want I'll simply play MK-X instead.
Blacksuns Exit-Strategy Exit Strategy.. 27	Posted - 2015.07.29 12:34:02 - [68] - Quote double posted, remove please.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 1927	Posted - 2015.07.29 16:45:29 - [69] - Quote 40, work full time, do lots of traveling. I keep all of my characters* in one corp with limited in-space assets (POSes, POCOs, etc.) and small rental bills set to auto-pay out of a well-funded corp wallet. This lets me walk away for weeks or more on short notice and everything will be right where I left it when I come back. Finding content does rely heavily on forming relationships with neighbors and fellow small-corpers like me, but I've made a pretty good run out of it. *All of my publicly acknowledged characters that is.... Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures Inaugural C&P Thunderdome Champion
Harrison Tato Yamato Holdings 460	Posted - 2015.07.29 17:03:06 - [70] - Quote Tora Bushido wrote: 45, 2 kids, gaming since the Pong. Secret of gaming when you're older, have kids, etc : * Always keep the wife happy (coffee, flowers, tell her she looks good, notice the new haircut, etc). * Always tell them they're more important then some space game (even if you dont think that). * Keep playing when they go to bed. * Adapt to the lack of sleep. * Have the pc in the living room for easy adapting. And remember the secret words passed on for generations ..... "Yes dear". So be a doormat is what your saying? LOL

Jenn aSide Smokin Aces. 11982	Posted - 2015.07.29 17:06:43 - [71] - Quote Harrison Tato wrote: Tora Bushido wrote: 45, 2 kids, gaming since the Pong. Secret of gaming when you're older, have kids, etc : * Always keep the wife happy (coffee, flowers, tell her she looks good, notice the new haircut, etc). * Always tell them they're more important then some space game (even if you dont think that). * Keep playing when they go to bed. * Adapt to the lack of sleep. * Have the pc in the living room for easy adapting. And remember the secret words passed on for generations ..... "Yes dear". So be a doormat is what your saying? LOL Keeping life in context and being a man by doing your duty to your family instead of selfishly forsaking all that for a ******* video game is not being a 'doormat'.
Harrison Tato Yamato Holdings 461	Posted - 2015.07.29 17:24:48 - [72] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Harrison Tato wrote: Tora Bushido wrote: 45, 2 kids, gaming since the Pong. Secret of gaming when you're older, have kids, etc : * Always keep the wife happy (coffee, flowers, tell her she looks good, notice the new haircut, etc). * Always tell them they're more important then some space game (even if you dont think that). * Keep playing when they go to bed. * Adapt to the lack of sleep. * Have the pc in the living room for easy adapting. And remember the secret words passed on for generations ..... "Yes dear". So be a doormat is what your saying? LOL Keeping life in context and being a man by doing your duty to your family instead of selfishly forsaking all that for a ******* video game is not being a 'doormat'. Being an adult who resorts to kissing butt so their spouse will ALLOW them to pursue a hobbie is. The other stuff is reasonable. I barf when I hear the ol' "happy wife happy life" slave song.
flakeys Arkham Innovations 3154	Posted - 2015.07.29 17:29:49 - [73] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: Harrison Tato wrote: Tora Bushido wrote: 45, 2 kids, gaming since the Pong. Secret of gaming when you're older, have kids, etc : * Always keep the wife happy (coffee, flowers, tell her she looks good, notice the new haircut, etc). * Always tell them they're more important then some space game (even if you dont think that). * Keep playing when they go to bed. * Adapt to the lack of sleep. * Have the pc in the living room for easy adapting. And remember the secret words passed on for generations ..... "Yes dear". So be a doormat is what your saying? LOL Keeping life in context and being a man by doing your duty to your family instead of selfishly forsaking all that for a ***** video game is not being a 'doormat'. It doesn't mean you have to suck up all day solely for the purpose of playing a video game.I try to keep my wife happy , give her compliments and find common ground as much as i can , but i have never done it just so she would not * at me for putting on my xbox or laptop and i have never ever had to tell her she's more important then a video game because when your wife has doubts the game is more important then you allready **** up in giving someone the attention they need. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Labaianoch The Scope Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2015.07.29 17:31:59 - [74] - Quote [/quote]Keeping life in context and being a man by doing your duty to your family instead of selfishly forsaking all that for a ***** video game is not being a 'doormat'.[/quote] Here, here. I started playing eve almost 3 years before my daughter was born. Having hours on end to play, get drunk, ** talk and accumulate vast swaths of enemies hardly compares to the fun I have arguing with a tiny version of me about how to properly use the bathroom.... The wife is fun too. On my point earlier about feeling of no use to my old corps, when I was in 0.0 based corps there were mandatory kills per month. Mandatory log on reqs. Constant CTA's and late night emails saying "URGENT!!! FULL EVAC NOW!!!"... which I usually found about well after a POS had been overrun. I'd log in to find myself in a station full of reds, in a system full of reds, with bubbles at every gate out, 100's of millions of isk worth of ships and crap in my hangar. Fire sale! I was definitely of little to no use to those guys and could read their frustration in the emails some times. That was enough for me. PvP? Meh, I suck at it. No I mean I really suck at it. Casual? Yes I am. And I still love this game as much as anyone with thousands of kills under their belt. Key theme here ...its much easier for me to find time to do something that doesn't require comms and fleets and that allows me to dock or cloak up at a moments notice when I hear "Baaaabe? Can you come here for a second???" To each his own. O/
Harrison Tato Yamato Holdings 461	Posted - 2015.07.29 17:32:54 - [75] - Quote flakeys wrote: It doesn't mean you have to suck up all day solely for the purpose of playing a video game.I try to keep my wife happy , give her compliments and find common ground as much as i can , but i have never done it just so she would not *** at me for putting on my xbox or laptop and i have never ever had to tell her she's more important then a video game because when your wife has doubts the game is more important then you allready **** up in giving someone the attention they need. Exactly!
Shawn Tivianne The Scope Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2015.07.29 17:58:07 - [76] - Quote My wife doesn't have a problem with my gaming because I don't make it more important than the actual important things. She knows my routine and has no problem with it. She isn't a gamer or anything. She goes about as far as guitar hero on the wii with me lol. I let her do the things she likes, and she lets me do the things I like. We communicate well. I told her the other night that I was tired from staying up late playing EVE, and she said, well sometimes why don't you start earlier so you can get to bed ontime. So last night I went on a bit early and got about 2.5 hours in and went to bed on time. So then maybe tonight I wont go on at all and hang out with the wife.
Mohandar Sabezan Hedion University Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2015.07.29 18:10:12 - [77] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: My wife doesn't have a problem with my gaming because I don't make it more important than the actual important things. She knows my routine and has no problem with it. She isn't a gamer or anything. She goes about as far as guitar hero on the wii with me lol. I let her do the things she likes, and she lets me do the things I like. We communicate well. I told her the other night that I was tired from staying up late playing EVE, and she said, well sometimes why don't you start earlier so you can get to bed ontime. So last night I went on a bit early and got about 2.5 hours in and went to bed on time. So then maybe tonight I wont go on at all and hang out with the wife. I think you should start a service called: Eve Family Counseling Charge people a consulting fee about how to play Eve and get along with the wife at the same time.
Panthe3 Black The Branded Few Test Alliance Please Ignore 1	Posted - 2015.07.29 18:11:45 - [78] - Quote Null sec pvp is where it's at
Shawn Tivianne The Scope Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2015.07.29 18:16:16 - [79] - Quote Mohandar Sabezan wrote: Shawn Tivianne wrote: My wife doesn't have a problem with my gaming because I don't make it more important than the actual important things. She knows my routine and has no problem with it. She isn't a gamer or anything. She goes about as far as guitar hero on the wii with me lol. I let her do the things she likes, and she lets me do the things I like. We communicate well. I told her the other night that I was tired from staying up late playing EVE, and she said, well sometimes why don't you start earlier so you can get to bed ontime. So last night I went on a bit early and got about 2.5 hours in and went to bed on time. So then maybe tonight I wont go on at all and hang out with the wife. I think you should start a service called: Eve Family Counseling Charge people a consulting fee about how to play Eve and get along with the wife at the same time. YES! I have found what to do with my EVE time! :-)
flakeys Arkham Innovations 3154	Posted - 2015.07.29 19:54:07 - [80] - Quote Panthe3 Black wrote: Null sec pvp is where it's at For casual gameplay?Maybe as i said before with brave , pandemic horde and the likes but usually nullsec pvp is forming up 45 minutes and then move a crapload of jumps in the hopes not to get blueballed. I've found lowsec pvp much more rewarding for those of us who log in for a few hours with a lot of ''short breaks'' in between because the kids or wife needs a hand/attention. We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 3874	Posted - 2015.07.29 20:13:49 - [81] - Quote One type of content seriously missing from EVE are large scale projects which can be forwarded in small irregular increments. The instance I use are hobbies like building a wooden ship scale model. They are very time intensive projects, but most tasks can be forwarded in less than an hour. Of course, part of the fun is in that nobody will come and smash it with a hammer the minute you're away. As un-EVE-ish as this is, I think it would be wise to give busy family men a mean to set and achieve long term goals in EVE, by working on them in a casual, irregular schedule. 73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
Karl Jerr Herzack Unit 103	Posted - 2015.07.29 21:26:57 - [82] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: One type of content seriously missing from EVE are large scale projects which can be forwarded in small irregular increments. The instance I use are hobbies like building a wooden ship scale model. They are very time intensive projects, but most tasks can be forwarded in less than an hour. Of course, part of the fun is in that nobody will come and smash it with a hammer the minute you're away. As un-EVE-ish as this is, I think it would be wise to give busy family men a mean to set and achieve long term goals in EVE, by working on them in a casual, irregular schedule. That would be a cool thing. Especially if, one day, they introduce player-owned stargates
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 921	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:03:48 - [83] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: One type of content seriously missing from EVE are large scale projects which can be forwarded in small irregular increments. The instance I use are hobbies like building a wooden ship scale model. They are very time intensive projects, but most tasks can be forwarded in less than an hour. Of course, part of the fun is in that nobody will come and smash it with a hammer the minute you're away. As un-EVE-ish as this is, I think it would be wise to give busy family men a mean to set and achieve long term goals in EVE, by working on them in a casual, irregular schedule. Agreed Right now I am low on gaming time due to my job being in flux and it strangling my free time atm iwill probably just be log in Eve while playing other games for a fix.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 3875	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:15:02 - [84] - Quote Imagine CCP didn't screwed up WiS and implemented the (supposedly) modular interiors for CQ. Just on a "home station" scale. Buy a slot in your favorite station, set up your home, and decor it with anyhting from tapestries to frozen corpses. Impact on other players? Null (minus the frozen corpses part). Thus it can be allowed to be as large and expensive and time consuming as needed, just for the sake of giving a cosmethic layer to something already existant, aka undestructible storage in NPC stations. High retention, endless chances for monetization, all would be good... It could be another EVE. One that wasn't condemned to replay itself over and over again -Soveriengty 3, then Incursions 2, then Apochrypha 2... (Dammit, EVE it's becoming Hollywood! All sequels, adaptations and franchises! ) 73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
Snagletooth Johnson Snagle Material Services CAStabouts 264	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:31:51 - [85] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: Quote: Playing on limited time/ Older gamers. How do you play?? Being an old fashioned guy, I use the joystick from my Atari 2600. I've heard that the combination of a mouse and a keyboard is superior but I just don't believe it. Mr Epeen So not only are not a part of the Logitech Masterrace, your not even part of PC Masterrace? Im so dissapointed in you Mr Epeen. Where have all my hero's gone?
Kaarous Aldurald Black Hydra Consortium. CODE. 13859	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:34:55 - [86] - Quote Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Imagine CCP didn't screwed up WiS and implemented the (supposedly) modular interiors for CQ. There was no way for them to not screw up Space Barbies. It's not just the execution that was flawed, it was a bad idea at the conceptual level. ANYTHING they did that ignored the base game for so long was a net negative for EVE Online, no matter what they did with it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs. Best Meltdown Ever.
Barrak Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms 136	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:43:16 - [87] - Quote Hey, Just turned 40, married, two kids, we had a dog (sadly it died two days ago..... man... that just fu*%ing hurts!!) EvE for me has always been more than just logging in. For whatever reason I love all the 3rd party stuff. I love EvEMon, EFT, blogs (giving some old love to the K162 blog (again!)). So, if I get a spare 10-15mins or so I generalyl gravitate towards the above, thus getting my EvE 'fix'. However I will generally jump on at around 21.30-22.00 when the Mrs and I have watched our TV show for the evening. I will then play till around 24.00. Currently I'm trading and am about to dump Barrak here into Lowsec for some solo/small gang stuff. I've always found that the best way to play this game on a limited budget of time is to do solo stuff..... now... I hasten to add that this doesnt mean you have to play the game solo, you just do solo stuff. I'm still part of a corp (though I will have to drop that), and I am in the chat channels. I am always chatting with my current/old corpies but I will generally fly solo. Like someone else said on the front page, a little prep can work wonders for those with limited time to play! Barrak O7
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 3876	Posted - 2015.07.30 06:43:35 - [88] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: Imagine CCP didn't screwed up WiS and implemented the (supposedly) modular interiors for CQ. There was no way for them to not screw up Space Barbies. It's not just the execution that was flawed, it was a bad idea at the conceptual level. ANYTHING they did that ignored the base game for so long was a net negative for EVE Online, no matter what they did with it. It never was "WiS or spaceships". It was "new stuff to draw players in or endless fixing of broken sht and going nowhere with demographics". It was WiS as could have been player structures or player buit stargates to new sectors of space. CCP had more resources back then, and even now they're not focusing in EVE alone. So it was not a competition for resources, but a way to understand development which turned sour when they underdelivered Incarna. So they stopped daring and became too afraid to do anything* outside of the narrow box of the long-term subscribers. So instead of Daring 1.0, we've got Fixing 15.0, Nerfing-Rebalancing 20.0 and Sovereignty 3.0; and we are on our way to Incursions 2.0 and are supposed to be ecstatic about the coming of Apochrypra 2.0. All things already done before and with the Old Farts' Seal of Approval. 73% of EVE characters stay in high security space. 62% of EVE subscribers barely PvP. 40% of all new accounts just "level up their Ravens". Probably that's why PvE content in EVE Online is sub-par and CCP is head over heels for PvP...
Shawn Tivianne The Scope Gallente Federation 5	Posted - 2015.07.30 17:53:17 - [89] - Quote Maybe i'll become a pirate in lowsec and see how low I can get my sec rating :-)
Rawthorm D.M.T inc Circle-Of-Two 55	Posted - 2015.07.31 09:40:55 - [90] - Quote Since my first attempt at quitting the game didn't work out for me, I've just had to adapt the way I play. A mix of RL considerations and quite frankly a lack of anything remotely interesting to do within EvE means that I've just broken down my EvE time into optimized little fragments that I can do as and when required. (Yes I know, if it's boring I should quit but I still hold out hope that one day EvE will have a resurgence and I'll be in a stronger place to take advantage of that as a player when it does.) Essentially I have a window of time in the mornings while I'm having my coffee and watching the news to keep my industry ticking over. Outside of this, if time presents itself I pick one of my little fragments and run with it. I spent the last few years making sure my accounts have 3 useable characters on them. For any 1 sub, 3 options. This means that for example my accounts may have 1 industry, 1 PvE and 1 PvP highly focused character on them, all seeded in the areas I operate in for each task. By cutting the need to move about the galaxy I literally can log on, choose the right character, get right into whatever I want to do and log off again. By cutting out all the time sinks like travel what little time I have goes to good use. Still all that being said, it sure would be nice if there were more personal long term goals in EvE.

Aaron Eternal Frontier 227	Posted - 2015.07.31 16:11:20 - [91] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. Hey Shawn, Might I suggest you have a look at my venture called Hub Zero, Hub Zero Thread I'm 37 myself and wanted to create a blue community in NPC 0.0 where people can come and get involved in operations that are happening within the local area. Some of the focus is about keeping the area safe and once we have more numbers we will have people organising their events and inviting people from the blue community. I think a setup like this would suit you, if we can get lots of people contributing I'm pretty sure we will have an interesting experience. Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Rhohan Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2015.07.31 18:21:13 - [92] - Quote Ah yes, Eve Online, the game that promises to be so much more.. Someday I play in sprints. I normally play during the fall/winter several days a week, then take the next 8-9 months off to focus on other things. This ensures the game stays fun, and it doesn't become a second job. This only issue with this in when your friends decide to move when you're afk for 6 months and you got 20 odd doctrine ships now in hostile space. Having a trickle NPC logistics system would be nice for those of us who play eve on a more recreational basis.
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 453	Posted - 2015.07.31 19:04:47 - [93] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: 1-2 hours sounds like plenty to me, even if it's just per month. It's not a race, and tbh I look on people playing for 10 hours a day with some disapproval if they try make it look normal and talk down to everyone else. It's not and they'll burn out faster than people who manage their time. There aren't many people who have been playing for 5+ years who have maintained consistent activity to that degree (and those who have are gibbering loonies who were 11 when they first subbed, and still are). This myth that EvE is only for hardcore nerds willing to commit to x hours per day is a problem and needs to be demolished. Clearly you are not a "real" gamer and are a disgrace to true EVE players. Real gamers, wear a cathetar and a diaper and the only time they stop playing before 10 hours is if their house burns or PC breaks. Stopping for sex or a choking family members is a clear sign of an uncommitted pilot. I once played for 42 hours non stop and only quit when the store I was in cut the power while I was testing one of their new rigs...
pushdogg Tell Your Mum To Call Me Cruis3rs Cr3w 41	Posted - 2015.07.31 19:37:42 - [94] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. My rl sounds similar to yours.....I log in find fights and log off....if I don't find any, so what. It will also sometimes entice me to take a fight I won't always win.....but that is on you. I'm definitely going to say that I plex my isk.....so if you don't have it like that, you may need a different play style.
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 453	Posted - 2015.07.31 19:46:07 - [95] - Quote I'm 58, married 37 years in October. Have a wife who games with her own rig. No kids to pester us.... I can play for hours if I like, but mostly just sit in Amarr, spin ships and chat. Haven't undocked my main in 3 years, far too much nerfing of everything good but I don't want to quit. Maybe someday things will change...
Labaianoch The Scope Gallente Federation 30	Posted - 2015.07.31 20:00:07 - [96] - Quote BrundleMeth wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: 1-2 hours sounds like plenty to me, even if it's just per month. It's not a race, and tbh I look on people playing for 10 hours a day with some disapproval if they try make it look normal and talk down to everyone else. It's not and they'll burn out faster than people who manage their time. There aren't many people who have been playing for 5+ years who have maintained consistent activity to that degree (and those who have are gibbering loonies who were 11 when they first subbed, and still are). This myth that EvE is only for hardcore nerds willing to commit to x hours per day is a problem and needs to be demolished. Clearly you are not a "real" gamer and are a disgrace to true EVE players. Real gamers, wear a cathetar and a diaper and the only time they stop playing before 10 hours is if their house burns or PC breaks. Stopping for sex or a choking family members is a clear sign of an uncommitted pilot. I once played for 42 hours non stop and only quit when the store I was in cut the power while I was testing one of their new rigs... Anyone else tired of the term "Gamer" being used like an occupational description? I'll never forget working for a cable/internet provider and having customers call and tell me "Well, I'm a gamer, so..." SO???? Congrats on being useless? Every time I heard someone talk like that I would roll my eyes so hard they almost left my skull.
Merovee Gorthaur Legion Imperium Mordor 166	Posted - 2015.07.31 23:02:31 - [97] - Quote 58 Membership Chairman for a CPC EDA in Canada, like to try my hand in running a corp, time limited ATM due to election, but after I want to do this so more time I'll have, I hope. Ratted in low sec for years, I want to lead a PvP fleet for the fun of it. Empire, the next new world order.
Johan Civire Flux Technologies Inc Gentlemen's.Parlor 958	Posted - 2015.07.31 23:19:06 - [98] - Quote Log in set skills log out next month see login in and logout again. I do not play eve anymore like i do before all those great new well change let me put it like that, is stopping me. The can not going back and there vision is out of focus. Eve is just for me a SP counter and if the are going to falling down the hill i`m going to sell this account for a great price before the going to (FTP mode or pull the plug) And lets hoop that will never happens and the going to correct it. So i can play the game again what it was. I hate casual gaming mode or arcade mode. Stop making eve in to it.
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon That Escalated Quickly. 1620	Posted - 2015.08.01 08:00:09 - [99] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. Piracy is your future haven my friend. TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] " -á CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a di++k joke."-áRobin Williams - RIP
Shawn Tivianne The Scope Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2015.08.01 12:46:00 - [100] - Quote Eugene Kerner wrote: Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. Piracy is your future haven my friend. I know. I think it seriously might be. Logged on last night with my null sec corp. Guys said we were going to get together for a lowsec roam. I was ready in 5 mins. In my ship, in the start location. Then as i wait almost an hour later, after much talking and fitting thier ships and bsing about what modules to fit and looking at prices. I was only going to be on another 20mins, i basically just said forget it. Logged into my alt and did some exploring for 20 mins. I dont have time to be working with other peoples schedules. Especially kids who dont have work in the morning and much to worry about other that shooting ships.

Zen Dad Doped Player's Inc. 290	Posted - 2015.08.01 20:04:26 - [101] - Quote This works for me in my own office in my own business / BM some exploration sites, cloak up in the general area. Minimise screen, work work work. Open up window every so often and check local for explorer victims - kill said victim or minimise screen and return to work. Don't open wrong window when co-director or secretary in office though. I can be 'involved' for 9 hours but actual play time is less than an hour .
Sindjin Hawke Distant Light Syndicate 17	Posted - 2015.08.02 16:33:46 - [102] - Quote EVE is tough on good content for solo players. I'm in the same boat: wife, kids, work and all the other stuff that screws up men's lives. Just kidding of course. The previous suggestion about long term single player goals/content would be great. I recently came back after almost a year off and it's still the same old thing. Would love to be able to build my own remote star base without it costing an arm and a leg to operate. Not to generate ISK mind you because there has to be risk/reward but wouldn't mind dumping ISK into something to increase immersion.
Shawn Tivianne The Scope Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2015.08.03 00:49:29 - [103] - Quote I do not want this game to become more casual. That's not why i made this post. I love the depth to it. I've been playing on and off for 4 years and im still learning new things. There is definitly plenty to do within a limited time frame. I'm just interested in hearing how others play because of the variety of ways that you can play. So an update on what I've been doing... On the rare chance i get a 3-4 hour shot of EVE (some friday and saturday nights) I log in my main with my null sec corp. And see what they are up to. Maybe join in or roam around solo low sec. And if they are BSing . Bloping or taking forever to get their ish together, Ill still join but ill be on the other screen exploring with my other toon. Now the week days When i only get an hour or so. If the corp is BSing. I'm out... My time is valuable. I'll go around FW low sec looking for fights. Solo fights are plenty. Just have to pick your battles and not worry about losing your ship. And thats that so far!
tiberiusric Comply Or Die Retribution. 200	Posted - 2015.08.03 06:46:35 - [104] - Quote have the same issue. but after years of playing I think low sec piracy is the best thing.. low sec is full of activity at the moment so if you not roaming then you're usually camping a gate hanging out with copies.. fw I wouldn't recommend personally as it's a bit blobby in the areas you need to be in to find fights.
BrundleMeth Caldari Provisions Caldari State 453	Posted - 2015.08.03 10:54:04 - [105] - Quote Labaianoch wrote: BrundleMeth wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: 1-2 hours sounds like plenty to me, even if it's just per month. It's not a race, and tbh I look on people playing for 10 hours a day with some disapproval if they try make it look normal and talk down to everyone else. It's not and they'll burn out faster than people who manage their time. There aren't many people who have been playing for 5+ years who have maintained consistent activity to that degree (and those who have are gibbering loonies who were 11 when they first subbed, and still are). This myth that EvE is only for hardcore nerds willing to commit to x hours per day is a problem and needs to be demolished. Clearly you are not a "real" gamer and are a disgrace to true EVE players. Real gamers, wear a cathetar and a diaper and the only time they stop playing before 10 hours is if their house burns or PC breaks. Stopping for sex or a choking family members is a clear sign of an uncommitted pilot. I once played for 42 hours non stop and only quit when the store I was in cut the power while I was testing one of their new rigs... Anyone else tired of the term "Gamer" being used like an occupational description? I'll never forget working for a cable/internet provider and having customers call and tell me "Well, I'm a gamer, so..." SO???? Congrats on being useless? Every time I heard someone talk like that I would roll my eyes so hard they almost left my skull. I only feel the same when people say "video games"...
Harry Forever SpaceJunkys 1240	Posted - 2015.08.03 11:19:41 - [106] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. I got a dedicated eve Laptop, its running all the time, like that I'm camping YA0 Goonswarms hub, and from time to time I shoot one of their haulers down, for me its like an aquarium in the living room, if I see something interesting I look at it and maybe do something... I think thats the best way to play eve... SpaceJunkys on YouTube - Harry Forever on the Forums
Zensasha KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 4	Posted - 2015.08.03 15:53:03 - [107] - Quote I'm 43 years old, I have a wife and a house and a 1.5 hour commute to work. As many many others have said, it is a matter of finding the right group. I could not be happier with the corporation I am in right now! Although targeted at newer players, KarmaFleet does accept players with all levels of experience. Being in KarmaFleet allows you to participate in all of The Imperium's content. They have Special Interest Groups for anything you might want to do in the game, and because the group is so large you will find PvP opportunities in any timezone. KarmaFleet has a very easy participation requirement; right now we ask that you participate in 1 fleet / month. You might also look at groups like RvB, or any of the NPSI communities. I flew with RvB for a few years, and they have some great people there. They don't kick anyone for non-participation, and whenever you undock, you are going to be shooting people (or trying). Since you are older, you might also be more senior, or in a leadership position where you work. I have worked at having the flexibility I want to play this game or do whatever else. My company tries to let people find a work-life balance. The people that work for me need flex-time quite often due to life happening. I have always felt that as long as the work gets done, it doesn't matter where the people are, or how many hours they spent at the office. When you create that sort of environment at work, you don't feel guilty leaving early because you have a timer or other important op. I think it also important to realize, that this or any other game might not take up as much time as it maybe once did. I have had periods of my life where games (MMOs in particular) took up all my free time. As long as you keep things in perspective and realize that EVERYTHING IS OPTIONAL, you will be fine. Everyone gets it. MMOs are no longer the domain solely of those who can devote most of their waking hours to it. EVE is no different, as long as you are flying with others who understand this.
Seniram Sproc IYAOYAS INC 12	Posted - 2015.08.03 16:01:48 - [108] - Quote I try to PvP in between frequent bio breaks. Getting older sucks...Thinking about wearing an adult diapers to ensure that I don't miss that next billion isk kill mail because of loose stool or frequent urination..... just sayin............
Rosa Pavlichenko State Protectorate Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.08.04 21:52:52 - [109] - Quote During office hours I run a Lvl 4 mission and shoot a few rocks with lazers. Bank the resulting money, and buy a few more kestrels to do low sec lulz in when I get home.
Nakito Kobara Yamagata Syndicate 23	Posted - 2015.08.05 07:17:51 - [110] - Quote I spend my time in faction warfare. fleets are fairly regular and it doesn't have the same level of intensity as null sec. Yamagata Syndicate - Caldari State FW, PvE, PvP. Join today!

Val'Dore PlanetCorp InterStellar 960	Posted - 2015.08.05 07:42:18 - [111] - Quote I work 84+ hours a week, which doesn't leave a lot of EvE time, although I theoretically could bring a laptop with me. But given where I work, not really feasible for playing. So I currently just plan my skill queue for the next five years, occasionally log in to adjust it, or to undock in a shiny. My wallet isn't growing much, but it doesn't really need to either. I am probably the most inactive active CEO in the game. Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy. I invented Tiericide
LowSkillAlt State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.08.05 18:02:44 - [112] - Quote I struggle with playing time, don't get back from work till 6, about half an hour or so trying to train a spaniel, out on the MTB 3 evenings a week plus dinner and wife time, I might be lucky to get an hour an evening. I've left EvE so many times but still always come back to it. When time first got short, I used to do a lot of FW, and/or Bombers Bar, I used to lose bombers all the time in BB, in fact I lose ships all the time, so I funded ship losses by selling the odd Plex. The last 2 times I rejoined I spent/spend what time I have doing some exploration (that damn JohnnyPew keeps me coming back!!), either hisec, if really pushed for time or just jump in a WH and see where it takes me. I still try to get the odd BB run in, but haven't done for a while. The exploration pretty much pays for any ship losses. I really miss being in a corp, just the banter, having someone to laugh at my mistakes and the impromptu roams. I know I am missing out on a hell of a lot of the game but as I'm getting older the belly is not getting any smaller so sitting on my 'arris playing Eve all evening can't take priority!
Minister of Death Ministry of War Amarr Empire 76	Posted - 2015.08.05 21:10:36 - [113] - Quote I have access to a crazy number of L4 agents so I run around for 30 minutes a couple times a week lining up good missions, and then when I have a few hours to actually play I just rip missions like a crazy bastard. It pays the isk bills. Then when I occasionally have a weekend without parental duties and such, I sometimes day trip WH's or low/null exploring and very occasionally harass bears.
Leoric Firesword Rolling Static Gone Critical 137	Posted - 2015.08.05 21:59:34 - [114] - Quote Shawn Tivianne wrote: So how do you play the game? Those who play on limited time 1-2 hours at a time. Or older gamers who have to bail at a moments notice. I enjoy EVE a lot. Different aspects. Mostly combat , and PVP. But sometimes it takes so long to get to where you need to be or sometimes these roams just take too long. I'm older, Married, own a home and a dog. I have a real life and responsibility to worry about. I guess im just trying to figure out my best use of time. in very small and quick bursts.... I basically don't play at all from march to ~ october so corp knows I'm just resetting PI or whatever when I come on. If they're already engaged in something they'll invite me along if I want, otherwise I may BS a little then head out.


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