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spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:12:00 - [91] Originally by: Ifni I'd be up for beating down on the MC, but the logisitcs of it may be a little tricky since this is an alliance tournament and we're all from far flung factions. We could probably do it on Sisi, although I'm sure someone will deem this "not real". I'd love to, but I don't have a machariel. I could bring a Cerb, and armour tank it? _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm
Lunas Feelgood Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:15:00 - [92] To all partys calm down This tournament is very diffenrent compared to the last 2.. There is no Win fit, It comes down to you pilots and you abilities to change tactics all the time.. Personally I think the team, who can field most different setups and tactics gonna win this time.. I heard alot saying that nossing and drones is the win button and i can tell you its not.. There is allways countermeasures and thats is what makes this tournament great.. Also I dont think its fair towards MC, they tryed something it didnt work and thats about it.. That doesnt make seelene and MC worse pvp¦ers then they allrdy were Joking The armor tanked raven was indeed thinking out of the box and for that I salute you seelene even if it didnt work.. And best of luck to all the teams next weekend.. And eVE TV keep up the good work Regards Lunas
Evil Pookie BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:15:00 - [93] dna? whotheF are they? the only problem i have with your statement about beating down the MC is well your obvious inability to make that happen. It would never happen on tranquility, i would not happen on singularity, about the only place your likely to achieve a beat down on MC is when you go sleepy bobos. 'those that can, do, those that can't commentate'
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:16:00 - [94] Originally by: Velsharoon Slap the curse pilot :/ Otherwise it was a good strategy, and armour tank raven ftw in this case ;) And the speed mach <3 Guess what these are random setups and they are GOOD setups, Sivona deserves kudos for these plans. Sure you dont have 9 points, instead pvpers who are worth a damn think it was great. If crazy. But crazys good yeh You can go through the battles and see what setups work, for the most part its cookie cutter stuff, which if this was a proper contract or whatever im sure MC would be using if it was proper fights...but as said this is about entertainment, not politics or the EVE cluster. Thank you vels well said.
Velsharoon Gallente Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:17:00 - [95] Originally by: spiralJunkie Originally by: Ifni I'd be up for beating down on the MC, but the logisitcs of it may be a little tricky since this is an alliance tournament and we're all from far flung factions. We could probably do it on Sisi, although I'm sure someone will deem this "not real". I'd love to, but I don't have a machariel. I could bring a Cerb, and armour tank it? You realise that one of the most effective ships is armour tanked ecm ravens yeh? Its like saying OMG THEY USE NOS ON THE MEGA EVEN THO THERE IS NO BONUS ROFLCOPTORS
Latex Mistress Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:20:00 - [96] I can't even believe what I'm seeing from the EVETV crew in this thread... Seriously. LM Latex Mistresss: bringing truth to the truculent one post at a time
Alita Tiphares	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:20:00 - [97] Originally by: Evil Pookie dna? whotheF are they? Havent played for very long have you
Ifni Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:23:00 - [98] Originally by: Latex Mistress I can't even believe what I'm seeing from the EVETV crew in this thread... Seriously. To be honest, I'm not sure if this is reflecting particularly well on either party. You take what is offered. And that must sometimes be enough.
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:23:00 - [99] Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 04/12/2006 18:25:59 Originally by: spiralJunkie Originally by: Ifni I'd be up for beating down on the MC, but the logisitcs of it may be a little tricky since this is an alliance tournament and we're all from far flung factions. We could probably do it on Sisi, although I'm sure someone will deem this "not real". I'd love to, but I don't have a machariel. I could bring a Cerb, and armour tank it? I can't decide if you are making a joke or if you are having a dig again?
Silvestri FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:34:00 - [100] Originally by: Miss Mel why do people keep calling it the iac team? it's the guiding hand. they're all guiding hand, and just using iac for the contest everyone knows it WTF?? I love when tards speak....and I will agree that it's the public that has amped this battle. I assure you IAC and MC both have respect for each other when MC was hired to take down all of our pos's....love stront...it was a close fight until the curse went bye bye...then the eos was the obvious next for the points...after that it was all bonus material. People should focus on the future instead of the past....
Heinky Amarr BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:35:00 - [101] OMG, whats up with people ? MC brought great setup to the last 3 matches. The mach setup was very nice and almost worked , was just unlucky that they lost the match nothing else. The tanked raven setup was a great idea against iac, could have worked. To evetv people replying here: U might be behind the cam but your not in the tourney, what they bring out to fight is their own choice if u dont like it say it infront of the box, and remember U report the news but MC is the news.
Raem Civrie Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:39:00 - [102] Edited by: Raem Civrie on 04/12/2006 18:40:06 Originally by: Miss Mel why do people keep calling it the iac team? it's the guiding hand. they're all guiding hand, and just using iac for the contest everyone knows it Let's run through the lineup. Tyrrax Thorrk is the IAC diplomat Tigress is the IAC President Orvas Dren is a regular IAC PvP'er Jim Raynor is a freeloader (not IAC) Uuve a bit as well, but he helps during IAC's wars NTRabbit is just there for the beer. Raem (me) has been in IAC for close to a year. Four of us are ex-GHSC (Jim, NTR, Uuve, Me), this is true, but that's because Umbra Congregatio and IAC is sort of a GHSC Rehab Center. You know, reintegrating griefers into society. This tournament is Community Service, for the Make Benefit of IAC Morale. ---- Where's my soup?
Enigmier	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:40:00 - [103] Nice report Seleene, your tactics were completely valid, armor tanking raven is far superior to sheild tanking when facing known amarr opposition. you cant plan for pilot error, its part of the game, its the way people get ships killed, and to all those who are slating the armor tanked raven for this contest, please go buy a clue
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:40:00 - [104] Well this is the best thread in this section to date, can't wait for the weekend now. I'll say this, not really a big fan of MC, but i find it funny how people love to knock people when the fail at doing the someone that person has themselves never done. I am not saying you shouldn't be a commentator, not at all, just don't be as harsh, it just sets you up for a fall if you were ever to take part in the tournament. As the saying goes, "easier said than done". [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
Miss Mel	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:45:00 - [105] Edited by: Miss Mel on 04/12/2006 18:46:09 Originally by: Raem Civrie Edited by: Raem Civrie on 04/12/2006 18:40:06 Originally by: Miss Mel why do people keep calling it the iac team? it's the guiding hand. they're all guiding hand, and just using iac for the contest everyone knows it Let's run through the lineup. Tyrrax Thorrk is the IAC diplomat Tigress is the IAC President Orvas Dren is a regular IAC PvP'er Jim Raynor is a freeloader (not IAC) Uuve a bit as well, but he helps during IAC's wars NTRabbit is just there for the beer. Raem (me) has been in IAC for close to a year. Four of us are ex-GHSC (Jim, NTR, Uuve, Me), this is true, but that's because Umbra Congregatio and IAC is sort of a GHSC Rehab Center. You know, reintegrating griefers into society. This tournament is Community Service, for the Make Benefit of IAC Morale. haha yeah right griefer reintegration, sure thats exactly what you guys are doing, all just ex ghsc who happen to be devoted to iac and fighting for them with no ties to ghsc at all. so why is istvaan threatening people and protecting you if you aren't ghsc anymore hey? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=436611
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 18:55:00 - [106] 1.) Burn Eden and MC on the same side? It's a good thing Eyeshadow stopped playing or else he'd probably die on the spot. 2.) There was a lot of mutual respect in this thread and hardly any smack. I thought people would like an inside look at things and hoped it would encourage others. What really bothers me about the way this thread has gone is how motivated do you think others will be to post reports like mine if the only thing that happens is people tear them to shreds? - Oz's Tourney Betting Pool
Istvaan Shogaatsu Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2006.12.04 19:05:00 - [107] Originally by: Miss Mel haha yeah right griefer reintegration, sure thats exactly what you guys are doing, all just ex ghsc who happen to be devoted to iac and fighting for them with no ties to ghsc at all. so why is istvaan threatening people and protecting you if you aren't ghsc anymore hey? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=436611 Ever hear of friendship? Cretin.
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.04 19:22:00 - [108] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu Originally by: Miss Mel haha yeah right griefer reintegration, sure thats exactly what you guys are doing, all just ex ghsc who happen to be devoted to iac and fighting for them with no ties to ghsc at all. so why is istvaan threatening people and protecting you if you aren't ghsc anymore hey? http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=436611 Ever hear of friendship? Cretin. I guess that's another hangar that needs a new padlock. -- Thukkers do
Ath Amon	Posted - 2006.12.04 19:25:00 - [109] i was quite critical about this fight and personally i liked Seleene insight post. it makes things a lot clearer and had not the impression he tried to justify their loss... he just said... we planned this and things went in this way... what i don't understand are "acid" comments from evetv staff.. the setup was not worth for a tournament? a raven should be not armortanked? wtf? a good thing about eve is flexibility and to think outside the box is generally a good thing. imo their setup was good (i had used something else but that's my taste) as Sele said it had not worked more for player mistakes than for a wrong global strategy... so where is the problem? there is no rule that say a raven should be shieldtanked (actually in pvp i'll armortank it anyday) nor that you have to stick with a "flavor of the tourney" strategy. all this smack is simply a nonsense, expecially on a post that try to clarify what happened and the team intent giving maybe an opportunity to discuss... mah
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.04 19:29:00 - [110] Originally by: Miss Mel why do people keep calling it the iac team? it's the guiding hand. they're all guiding hand, and just using iac for the contest everyone knows it Nonsense. Orvas is GHSC? It's simply a matter of who has the right skills.
Tehyarec Erasers inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.04 19:34:00 - [111] WTF, is there no end to the Raven bashing? While I'd never use a Raven myself (cosmetic reasons mostly, hah), there's NOTHING wrong with armor-tanking a Raven for PVP. You can field EW and tackling in the mids. There's no bonus to shield-tanking on a Raven, so you don't even miss out on any bonuses. I wonder how much PVP have people who diss armor-tanked Ravens actually done. I'm no PVP guru, and even I know armor-tanked EW Ravens are nasty, nasty things. A shield-tanked Raven does just that, tanks, but you can't actually hamper enemy operations like you can with EW. In a situation like this, EW can be preferable. Especially considering you even get nice resists against Amarr by using armor as a side bonus.
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:00:00 - [112] I find it quite funny, everything aside, that SpiralJunkie feels the need to be so hostile to not just us, but a LOT of people so much and yet he's representing CCP just as much as an actual member of CCP staff when he's doing this Originally by: Rekindle I was in an empire system when they used their grief tactics to explode everything I own.
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:04:00 - [113] Edited by: Kyguard on 04/12/2006 20:05:26 Meh, reading this thread, it seems that Seleene did have the right intentions when he wrote this, but then again remembering the previous thread where MC pilots were completely smacking IAC before the match.. what comes around, goes around. You can interpret this thread in two ways really. I can see how some people got hostile when they wrote their reply. === It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here]
Alita Tiphares	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:07:00 - [114] Originally by: Ikvar I find it quite funny, everything aside, that SpiralJunkie feels the need to be so hostile to not just us, but a LOT of people so much and yet he's representing CCP just as much as an actual member of CCP staff when he's doing this I find this strange aswell. I heard overweight people were supposed to be jolly.. what gives?
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:08:00 - [115] Edited by: maGz on 04/12/2006 20:08:26 Originally by: Seleene What really bothers me about the way this thread has gone is how motivated do you think others will be to post reports like mine if the only thing that happens is people tear them to shreds? I think it'll only be BoBs and your reports that turn into flame-fests... Wonder why? ____________ The Priory Killboard
Jimbob McKracken The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:17:00 - [116] Hmmm - Armour tanking a raven means you have aids, being in MC = more aids. Loosing a fight and minging about why you lost and how you did it on purpose becuase your uber and have a large ***** = mega aids. So in summary = MEGA SUPER BAD DOWNRIGHT DIRTY AIDS + MEGA AIDS = MC
Liu Kaskakka PAK	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:18:00 - [117] I seriously thought the EvE-TV team was a bit more professional .. King Liu is RIGHT!!
Kaylana Syi Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:20:00 - [118] Don't really care if the theory behind the idea was o.k. the implementation of it was poor. Honestly, are you guys trying to ruin the good name of IAC? People are going to think anyone can stand toe to toe with you now in a fleet battle. Tarnish your good name by doing insanely stupid things and basically giving away your tourney prizes. Or... were you paid to loose? Hey... thats always a good spin for you. Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
Julien Derida Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:25:00 - [119] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Don't really care if the theory behind the idea was o.k. the implementation of it was poor. Honestly, are you guys trying to ruin the good name of IAC? People are going to think anyone can stand toe to toe with you now in a fleet battle. Tarnish your good name by doing insanely stupid things and basically giving away your tourney prizes. Or... were you paid to loose? Hey... thats always a good spin for you. ---------------------------------------- Chief Inspector of the Style Police - FRICK
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.04 20:26:00 - [120] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Don't really care if the theory behind the idea was o.k. the implementation of it was poor. Honestly, are you guys trying to ruin the good name of IAC? People are going to think anyone can stand toe to toe with you now in a fleet battle. Tarnish your good name by doing insanely stupid things and basically giving away your tourney prizes. Or... were you paid to loose? Hey... thats always a good spin for you. They haven't heard anything from their client... ____________ The Priory Killboard

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