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Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.31 05:06:32 -
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I propose to bring level 5 missions to high sec. Why? Well it will give Marauders something to do besides yawning through Level 4 missions. As it is hardly anyone does level 5's because it's simply not worth the risk to bring a capable ship to low sec so wouldn't it be better to just bring them to Hi-Sec with increase difficulty? I wouldn't mind if they increase the difficulty to the point that it would require 2 Marauders or 4 faction BSs to complete them. It would also give pilots a reason to fleet up to run missions.
Also to keep them from being ignored as they currently are as LP for the major Empires suck, I propose they increase the bounties and loot in these missions. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
5806
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Posted - 2015.07.31 07:26:24 -
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Just because you don't want to take your marauder to lowsec doesn't mean nobody runs L5 missions.
We already have high-difficulty PVE in hisec called Incursions.
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Zappity
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
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Posted - 2015.07.31 07:43:05 -
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Loads of people run them in carriers. Here's a guide from reddit: www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/3f3ed6/level_5_mission_guide/
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Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.31 07:53:50 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Just because you don't want to take your marauder to lowsec doesn't mean nobody runs L5 missions.
We already have high-difficulty PVE in hisec called Incursions.
That require groups of 12. I'm talking about for 2 or 3 individuals. And not everyone have to tolerates to listen to drunkards babbling about personal issues on comms like it's some mid-life crysis hotline.
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Janeway84
Def Squadron Pride Before Fall
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Posted - 2015.07.31 12:41:30 -
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Daniela Doran wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:Just because you don't want to take your marauder to lowsec doesn't mean nobody runs L5 missions.
We already have high-difficulty PVE in hisec called Incursions. That require groups of 12. I'm talking about for 2 or 3 individuals. And not everyone have the tolerates to listen to drunkards babbling about personal issues on comms like it's some mid-life crisis hotline.
But thats a feature with eve! |
Civ Kado
Dutch East Querious Company Phoebe Freeport Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.31 14:00:28 -
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You're dumb. |
Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
668
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Posted - 2015.07.31 14:48:46 -
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No. Just because you can't be bothered to do them in lowsec, does not mean they should be moved back to hisec. Too much easy isk in hisec as it is. |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1315
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Posted - 2015.07.31 15:14:31 -
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Cupcake1980 Mernher
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2015.07.31 17:04:57 -
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I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship. |
FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1441
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Posted - 2015.07.31 17:50:32 -
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As someone who used to run Level 5 missions in High Sec, back when it was possible, I have to tell you that it is no more exciting than running Level 4 missions in High Sec.
The excitement comes from being hunted by your fellow man, not from NPC's.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2015.07.31 19:22:07 -
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I'd say that sums it up nicely. |
Barrogh Habalu
Forever Winter Absolute Zero.
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Posted - 2015.07.31 20:54:23 -
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Cupcake1980 Mernher wrote:I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship. Does that nets significantly more than farming L4s solo efficiently though?
Also note that higher security status means significantly less SP/ISK.
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Zappity
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
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Posted - 2015.07.31 21:16:48 -
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Cupcake1980 Mernher wrote:I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship. How much is your Rattlesnake worth? Carriers aren't that expensive.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
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Posted - 2015.07.31 22:01:18 -
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Daniela Doran wrote:That require groups of 12. I'm talking about for 2 or 3 individuals. And not everyone have the tolerance to listen to drunkards babbling about personal issues on comms like it's some mid-life crisis hotline.
If you have 2 or 3 friends, go join an incursion fleet. If you don't have 2 or 3 friends, join an incursion fleet.
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Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.01 00:37:13 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:As someone who used to run Level 5 missions in High Sec, back when it was possible, I have to tell you that it is no more exciting than running Level 4 missions in High Sec.
The excitement comes from being hunted by your fellow man, not from NPC's.
Hmm, I see. So tell me, are level 5's worth the risk of using a Paladin?
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Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2015.08.01 00:47:23 -
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Cupcake1980 Mernher wrote:I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship.
You can solo Level 5's in a Rattler? Interesting. May I ask you which empire or faction you run level 5's for? Is the isk per hour + risk worth it compared to running lev 4's for SOE? If you don't wish to answer this question in the forums then could you please send me some info via in-game email, I'd really like to know. |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2015.08.01 00:56:51 -
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Estella Osoka wrote:No. Just because you can't be bothered to do them in lowsec, does not mean they should be moved back to hisec. Too much easy isk in hisec as it is.
If you're referring to incursions please refer to one of my previous post in this thread. That only leaves SOE missions which if it wasn't for, I doubt I'd still be playing this game. So what other High-Sec isk sink you're referring too, hmm?
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Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
66
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Posted - 2015.08.01 01:08:49 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Cupcake1980 Mernher wrote:I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship. Does that nets significantly more than farming L4s solo efficiently though? Also note that higher security status means significantly less SP/ISK.
Unless the LP comes from SOE, it's basically worthless to me since I don't have any manufacturing alts to use those BPCs. And the LP given from missions in Lanngisi compared to a low sec system is barely noticeable and not worth the risk.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
535
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Posted - 2015.08.01 01:31:09 -
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Nope. Plenty of reasons, many of them stated already. Have a nice day.
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"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
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Posted - 2015.08.01 01:50:40 -
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Essentially I agree with this but I do have an option. Move some level 5's to high sec but reduce the payouts to the same as the upper end lvl 4's. If the OP just wants the challenge of the more difficult missions he can have it without the easy ISK portion that gets people so worked up.
Other thoughts for the OP. If lvl 4 are not challenging enough in your marauder then how about trying something smaller. |
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.08.01 03:24:41 -
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Daniela Doran wrote:Estella Osoka wrote:No. Just because you can't be bothered to do them in lowsec, does not mean they should be moved back to hisec. Too much easy isk in hisec as it is. If you're referring to incursions please refer to one of my previous post in this thread. That only leaves SOE missions which if it wasn't for, I doubt I'd still be playing this game. So what other High-Sec isk sink you're referring too, hmm?
why dont you put a bit of risk in yout game instead of sitting in high sec expecting everyone you provide content fot you, get off you're lazy arse and go and get some content like everyone else doees
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.01 10:16:25 -
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If I recall correctly, way back in the day when Agents still had quality ratings, a great many level 4 missions and agents were stationed in low security space. Likewise, the decent quality level 5 missions were there as well. When they removed agent quality and rebalanced the missions is when they moved a great many level 4 agents into high sec and all of the level 5 agents into low sec. I don't even remember what year that was anymore... My memory gets fuzzy with age.
I'm pretty doubtful that they'll be moving level fives into high sec space to be honest. It just feels that they intend for them to be more hazardous for the participants, not only from the increased difficulty of the NPC's but also the potential for interference from the fellow man.
Incursions do seem to be the closest parallel to such a thing in high sec for now. I would like to see some tougher level 3 and 4 missions added in the future that would be unsolvable without using multiple pilots. I'm not talking about just more force, but requiring more sophisticated tactics and objectives that would be simply impossible for a single pilot. Something rewarding that would encourage cooperative play and whatnot.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2015.08.01 13:52:48 -
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Daniela Doran wrote:FT Diomedes wrote:As someone who used to run Level 5 missions in High Sec, back when it was possible, I have to tell you that it is no more exciting than running Level 4 missions in High Sec.
The excitement comes from being hunted by your fellow man, not from NPC's. Hmm, I see. So tell me, are level 5's worth the risk of using a Paladin?
That is a decision only you can make.
For me, the only place I will not use a Marauder - in Bastion mode - is in a belt or an anomaly. Anywhere else, I will count on paying enough attention to my surroundings that I can get out of Bastion mode before I get caught.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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HeXxploiT
Big Diggers Get Off My Lawn
170
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Posted - 2015.08.01 20:18:32 -
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I agree bring lvl 5 missions to highsec and let the carebears die for a change. |
Zappity
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
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Posted - 2015.08.01 21:13:48 -
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HeXxploiT wrote:I agree bring lvl 5 missions to highsec and let the carebears die for a change. The isk per hour is too high if you cherry pick the missions with a faction puller. I think they really need the player risk that lowsec brings.
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Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.02 00:19:45 -
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Omar Alharazaad wrote:If I recall correctly, way back in the day when Agents still had quality ratings, a great many level 4 missions and agents were stationed in low security space. Likewise, the decent quality level 5 missions were there as well. When they removed agent quality and rebalanced the missions is when they moved a great many level 4 agents into high sec and all of the level 5 agents into low sec. I don't even remember what year that was anymore... My memory gets fuzzy with age.
I'm pretty doubtful that they'll be moving level fives into high sec space to be honest. It just feels that they intend for them to be more hazardous for the participants, not only from the increased difficulty of the NPC's but also the potential for interference from the fellow man.
Incursions do seem to be the closest parallel to such a thing in high sec for now. I would like to see some tougher level 3 and 4 missions added in the future that would be unsolvable without using multiple pilots. I'm not talking about just more force, but requiring more sophisticated tactics and objectives that would be simply impossible for a single pilot. Something rewarding that would encourage cooperative play and whatnot.
Well honestly I was hoping for an alternative to running lev 4 SOE missions with a little more added difficulty and payout. This is only an additional alternative in case my other more dangerous options don't work out. |
Cupcake1980 Mernher
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
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Posted - 2015.08.02 01:16:57 -
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How much is your Rattlesnake worth? Carriers aren't that expensive. [/quote]
I only use a T2 fit, and use a mobile depot to refit the low slots, from 3 dda/bcu to 6 shield relays if needed, 3 t2 rigs though |
Cupcake1980 Mernher
Knights of the Posing Meat FETID
3
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Posted - 2015.08.02 01:18:49 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:Cupcake1980 Mernher wrote:I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship. Does that nets significantly more than farming L4s solo efficiently though? Also note that higher security status means significantly less SP/ISK.
you get 95k lp for most missions with my skills, 8m in rewards and whatever bounties you make, idk about isk/hr tbh |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2015.08.02 02:02:27 -
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Cupcake1980 Mernher wrote:Barrogh Habalu wrote:Cupcake1980 Mernher wrote:I run Level 5s, solo, in a Rattlesnake. No groups of 12, no carriers, although I have 1 to do the ungated ones and you just have to be prepared to take the risk of flying a capable ship in low sec. Either that or as someone said, go collect isk farming incursions but don't complain that they need took to high sec because you're scared to take a ship. Does that nets significantly more than farming L4s solo efficiently though? Also note that higher security status means significantly less SP/ISK. you get 95k lp for most missions with my skills, 8m in rewards and whatever bounties you make, idk about isk/hr tbh
what about salvage and loot drops? |
Orlacc
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Posted - 2015.08.02 02:50:31 -
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Silly silly idea. The rewards more than make up for the risk.
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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