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Radcjk Caldari Dark Star LTD Atrocitas	Posted - 2008.04.30 12:59:00 - [181] Originally by: Leikung I fire mine at over 200km. Nuttin can hit me, and WE can strip a fleet of anything smaller than a crusier in mintues. That wasn't my point, but good for you. Heres a cooky.
Derek Sigres	Posted - 2008.04.30 13:54:00 - [182] Originally by: Ziggy Smalls Just for my own curiosity, has anyone tried fitting a flare rig? I'm wondering how viable the high explosion velocity is for gatecamps, or if it even matters being cruises explode so slowly to begin with. Personally I'd rater calefaction for a big alpha, but I'd like to know if anyone's tried anything different first. -Ziggy Calefaction is the better option but I'd argue against rigging a bomber. While a bomber CAN have a pretty good survival probability it only takes ONE mistake to die - you are protected by Eve's equivalent of soggy toilet paper after all. Flare rigs would be all but useless unfortunately - cruise missiles have a fairly low base explosion velocity and as such won't see much in the form of an effective bonus from flare rigs.
Mammirammer	Posted - 2008.04.30 15:49:00 - [183] I've got pretty decent missle skills, everything maxed except for a couple of the "spec" skills. My cruise spec is at lvl 4 and I still can get only 162km. My manti is not rigged so my question is will the addition of the right rigs get me up over 200km? Are there any other skills that would either increase missle velocity or max flight time?
Leikung	Posted - 2008.05.04 00:55:00 - [184] With your missle skills to 4 and rigs will get you close to 200km. Soon as you get lvl 5 skills, you will go into the 220-230 ranges.
Elphy Minmatar Warp badgers with guns	Posted - 2008.05.15 11:20:00 - [185] Missle Projection and Missile Bombardment lvl 5 will get you 163-8km range on t1 and Faction Cruise. Doing some ETF warrioring gives this setup. High: Imp Cloak II Cruise Launcher II Cruise Launcher II Cruise Launcher II Meds: Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Passive Targeter II Lows: Full Duplex Ballistic Targetting System Full Duplex Ballistic Targetting System The two BCU are nessarry as they have the lowest CPU requirement and will probally be a tad expensive but hey your flying a tech 2 ship for pvp so you must have isk to burn ;) . Some people might question the passive targeter and that fair enough. I would use (not used as this is EFT warrioring) a passive targeter so that I would uncloak about 155-160 km from a gate when a target appears, lock and spam missiles. Without the lock warning sound and heads up from the overview some people might not even notice that there is currently a nice surprise rocketing their way. I highly doubt this would have enough dps to kill anything apart from afk autopiloting frigs, indys and maybe cruisers in low sec but if you have intel that a target is traveling through that gate that is a viable target then get there make 5-6 160km bookmarks and sit at one cloaked. Target comes along, uncloak, lock and fire. Once you target is down or they have escaped move to another bookmark and cloak. Cheap, cheerful and fairly low skill low sec gate sniping. Feedback, insults, questioning of my sexual preference encouraged.
Omarvelous Destry's Lounge XIII Legio	Posted - 2008.05.15 13:46:00 - [186] Edited by: Omarvelous on 15/05/2008 13:46:47 Originally by: Elphy Missle Projection and Missile Bombardment lvl 5 will get you 163-8km range on t1 and Faction Cruise. Doing some ETF warrioring gives this setup. High: Imp Cloak II Cruise Launcher II Cruise Launcher II Cruise Launcher II Meds: Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Passive Targeter II Lows: Full Duplex Ballistic Targetting System Full Duplex Ballistic Targetting System The two BCU are nessarry as they have the lowest CPU requirement and will probally be a tad expensive but hey your flying a tech 2 ship for pvp so you must have isk to burn ;) . Some people might question the passive targeter and that fair enough. I would use (not used as this is EFT warrioring) a passive targeter so that I would uncloak about 155-160 km from a gate when a target appears, lock and spam missiles. Without the lock warning sound and heads up from the overview some people might not even notice that there is currently a nice surprise rocketing their way. I highly doubt this would have enough dps to kill anything apart from afk autopiloting frigs, indys and maybe cruisers in low sec but if you have intel that a target is traveling through that gate that is a viable target then get there make 5-6 160km bookmarks and sit at one cloaked. Target comes along, uncloak, lock and fire. Once you target is down or they have escaped move to another bookmark and cloak. Cheap, cheerful and fairly low skill low sec gate sniping. Feedback, insults, questioning of my sexual preference encouraged. I fly manticores frequently - and I strongly disagree on the usefulness of a passive targeter. About as much as I loathe a target painter on a stealth bomber. Unless your target has left stealth bombers off their overview - the second you uncloak the target will see you. When you fire - they will see you flashing red. Being that you're >150km away they will warp off. You wasted your 4th mid slot on a passive targeter. Also gate camping in low sec with a stealth bomber is a horrible idea - the cruise missiles will take forever to get to the target that has either been destroyed or has warped off. Use them for 0.0 gate camps instead (see: warp disruption bubbles + friendlies with webbers). Either fit damps and sensor boster - stay cloaked and uncloak 40-60km from your target fire and damp them (while yoru buddy has them scrammed). Or fit all sensor boosters and tech 2 ballistic controls and some damage rigs - and go for all out alpha, quick lock fire - cloak. Again you have to be close to a large slow locking target for this. Ive seen a manticore setup with sensor boosters and a scram that knocked out haulers in 0.0 - funny stuff. __________________________________________________ Sup brosef! Destry's Lounge is looking for a few good drunks - contact me in game.
Mammirammer	Posted - 2008.05.15 14:25:00 - [187] Edited by: Mammirammer on 15/05/2008 14:25:47 Originally by: Leikung With your missle skills to 4 and rigs will get you close to 200km. Soon as you get lvl 5 skills, you will go into the 220-230 ranges. The cruise missle spec skill states a 2% increase in RoF per level. How would that increase my range? With ALL missles skills at lvl 5 except for cruise spec which is at lvl 4, I get 162km on an unrigged manti.
Wannabehero Caldari Absolutely No Retreat Southern Cross Alliance	Posted - 2008.05.15 21:55:00 - [188] Originally by: Thickas Buck 1. A bomb will destroy any other bombs in the area except those of the same damage type. 2. A bomb can only survive being hit by bomb damage of its own type 4 times before it is destroyed. i.e. The max number of bombs that can detonate at the same time is 4 and they must be of the same damage type. I'll add the link to the post by the guy that tested this if/when I find it again. Hrm, from my math, a bomb has 240 HP and 99.5% resist to its own damage type. Max Skills a 6400 damage bomb x1.25 for SB skill = 8000 Damage 8000 x (0.005) = 40 damage after resists 240 / 40 = 6 So by the stats given by CCP for bombs, it would seem that the maximum volley of bombs would be six before they pop one another. I would love to see the link you are referring too, maybe there is a stat or multiplier I am missing. -- Don't harsh my mellow
Tomtomzz	Posted - 2008.05.27 02:27:00 - [189] Originally by: Mammirammer Edited by: Mammirammer on 15/05/2008 14:25:47 Originally by: Leikung With your missle skills to 4 AND RIGS will get you close to 200km. Soon as you get lvl 5 skills, you will go into the 220-230 ranges. The cruise missle spec skill states a 2% increase in RoF per level. How would that increase my range? With ALL missles skills at lvl 5 except for cruise spec which is at lvl 4, I get 162km on an unrigged manti. Edited for clarity. Also, nowhere in the post does it mention cruise missile spec, which has no effect whatsoever on range.
gee ai	Posted - 2008.05.27 16:58:00 - [190] hi, i like this thread. I have one question? If I wanna use my SB for solo PvP, where should i do so? I spent a lot of time cloaked waiting for some jetcan/wreck/ore noob thiefs in hisec, no luck yet (only 1 pirat player in inty, I better stayed cloaked ) Trying to find somebody "suitable" in lowsec belts also take a time. So where do you hunt for your prey when ur solo? thanks
Dictum Factum Gemini Sun Violent-Tendencies	Posted - 2008.05.27 19:11:00 - [191] Stealth Bomber is not a very good choice for solo work. I know less than you think I do.
Zaghnal The Six Demon Pact	Posted - 2008.05.28 12:43:00 - [192] Originally by: Dictum Factum Stealth Bomber is not a very good choice for solo work. I just get tired of people saying a particular combat ship isn't a good for solo work... It's called...knowing how to effectively fly your ship and choosing your target(s). You can have fun in solo PvP in pretty much any combat ship... Quote: TO BE KNOW IS TO KNOW THAT YOU KNOW NOTHING! Socrates
Donna Maria	Posted - 2008.05.29 00:50:00 - [193] Originally by: Dictum Factum Stealth Bomber is not a very good choice for solo work. One last time for the stupid people.. Highs - 3 Cruise launchers (malkuth) / Cloak Mids 2 RSD (Range scripts) / 1 sensor booster (res script) / 1 web low Overdrive / BCS Typical target - Overconfident Inty pilot Uncloak at 80km, lock- use damps. Fire missles . Once he is in web range, its Goodnight Irene. Im the girl momma warned you about..
Flavie Arch	Posted - 2008.06.06 13:58:00 - [194] What if the pilot is smart enough to orbit @ 15km+ with a warp disruptor on ? The web makes less sense :-\|
Arana Tellen The Blackguard Wolves	Posted - 2008.06.06 14:00:00 - [195] Originally by: Flavie Arch What if the pilot is smart enough to orbit @ 15km+ with a warp disruptor on ? The web makes less sense :-\| Two sensor damps on a ship with a 30km locking range, you do the math. --------------------------------- Oh noes! Originally by: CCP Greyscale moderated - mother abuse - Mitnal

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