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Dawn Verragan Lunar Association Freelancer Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:41:00 - [31] I totally approve this piece of fanboi-ism ;) Although I already hear the complaints about "Eve won all just because the game is so boring" aka "WoW did not win because its players enjoy the game so much". Somehow painful to see the "Eve vs WoW" choices all the way though :(
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:42:00 - [32] Originally by: Araxmas How the frack does WoW even get nominated for graphics. Because alot of idiots play WoW, and don't realize the graphics were outdated before the game was released. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:46:00 - [33] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Araxmas How the frack does WoW even get nominated for graphics. Because alot of idiots play WoW, and don't realize the graphics were outdated before the game was released. No, because far too many people vote for the game they play just because they play it, rather than because they think it's best or even understand the competition. See previous argument Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:46:00 - [34] Originally by: Dark Shikari Not saying they're that good, but hell at least its more than: 1. Deliver this letter! 2. Kill fifty Blooddripper Fanatics and bring me back twenty Blooddripper Vials! 3. Fetch the Sword of Doom! Lies, anyone who has Progress Quest knows how much those 3 quests kick ass. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:55:00 - [35] Ok what the hell, you have WoW as a graphics nominee, then in the PVE page, the WoW description: World of Warcraft, Blizzard Entertainment World of Warcraft is the polar opposite of EverQuest II. [/b]It has impeccable art direction, but low-tech graphics[/b]. It's an eternal debate of style vs. substance, with some preferring to push their graphics cards to the limits, while others just want something pleasing to the eye. So maybe it'sd just me, but if a game's graphics are low tech, then why is it even a choice for graphics? Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:56:00 - [36] Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Araxmas How the frack does WoW even get nominated for graphics. Because alot of idiots play WoW, and don't realize the graphics were outdated before the game was released. No, because far too many people vote for the game they play just because they play it, rather than because they think it's best or even understand the competition. See previous argument That sure was a fancy way of agreeing with me. Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:56:00 - [37] Originally by: Detavi Kade I don't know...progressquest pretty much blows every current game out of the water. And I can even play that one at work. QFT! -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Derran Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:06:00 - [38] Originally by: Dark Shikari World of Warcraft only has about four quests in the entire game. They're just madlibbed with different words. You can say EVE's PvE is mediocre, but telling me World of Warcraft's is better is flat-out lying. Actually, it is better and it isn't. In WoW, the quests themselves can have a kind of story that you can follow. EVE doesn't have that. Other than that, I'd have to say the PvE experience in WoW stinks. You are either questing or just grinding, both of which can become boring as you can have a hard time not being bored or you can't do it alone and no one around to help you. I have joined and quit WoW about 5 times now. For Eve, there are many different kinds of PvE experiences. Missions, Complexes, etc. The missions, in comparison to quests, are just kind of there and don't really contribute much to the overall story content in Eve or follow any kind of story really.
Nate D Naughty Ambitious Temptatious Endeavours	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:06:00 - [39] PotBS for most anticipated... None of the above for the vest of 2006 cause they all sucked. EVE for the rest! GO VOTE! -N-zizzleÖ --- Voice Comms are Coming ...SoonÖ [Click]
Black Scorpio	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:16:00 - [40] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/12/2006 22:18:03 Originally by: Verus Potestas How did Eve get nominated for PvE? Because by comparison to World of Warcraft, its good. Do you notice how much of EVE is PvE? We have hundreds of complexes (more than WoW), an entire exploration system where you can find your own "raids", and four massive COSMOS constellations, plus hundreds of missions. World of Warcraft has about, uh... 4 quests that are repeated game-wide with different names madlibbed into them? OH, now you remember about the PvE feature of Eve, don't you... Go back to all the forums that shout that this is you see a PvP game and that if I want a PvE I should go play WOW... LAME HYPOCRITS..
Volatar AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:19:00 - [41] voted for eve in all except in what i couldn't star trek online looks cool and i voted for the trash on the other, all of those were crap ---
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:20:00 - [42] tbh, I think it'd be pretty far fetched to call EVE's PVE Award Winning material. But equally, I don't honestly think WoWs is THAT much better. The thing is, WoW is almost solely a PvE game (with rubbish PvE) while EVE atleast is a PvP game first and foremost (the rubbish PvE is just in as an added bonus ) -----------------------------------------------
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:24:00 - [43] Originally by: Black Scorpio Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 05/12/2006 22:18:03 Originally by: Verus Potestas How did Eve get nominated for PvE? Because by comparison to World of Warcraft, its good. Do you notice how much of EVE is PvE? We have hundreds of complexes (more than WoW), an entire exploration system where you can find your own "raids", and four massive COSMOS constellations, plus hundreds of missions. World of Warcraft has about, uh... 4 quests that are repeated game-wide with different names madlibbed into them? OH, now you remember about the PvE feature of Eve, don't you... Go back to all the forums that shout that this is you see a PvP game and that if I want a PvE I should go play WOW... I don't post that. EVE has good PvE. However, if you only want PvE, its not the game for you, as PvP is unavoidable. -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:25:00 - [44] a combination of PVE-PVP is essential in this game These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views This is a disclaimer
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:26:00 - [45] fan-boi ism is good These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views This is a disclaimer
Black Scorpio	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:26:00 - [46] Edited by: Black Scorpio on 05/12/2006 23:27:08 Originally by: Patch86 tbh, I think it'd be pretty far fetched to call EVE's PVE Award Winning material. But equally, I don't honestly think WoWs is THAT much better. The thing is, WoW is almost solely a PvE game (with rubbish PvE) while EVE atleast is a PvP game first and foremost (the rubbish PvE is just in as an added bonus ) Good, at least someone here is realistic. There is nothing wrong to nominate EvE for the game it is, there is all wrong with nominating it for what it's not. If you have some brain in these heads of yours and some sense of what's right! oh YEAH evE is teh UBER!!11. Sure, Eve is a great game and has a lot of +s, that is why now i play it mostly over any other game, but it also has a lot of areas where it needs a second look. PvE is one of the areas where this game just doesn't shine, and it's player base (at least the forum subset of it) is strictly inclined to doom the PvE features to extinction. I believe EvE has a great potential for both PvP AND PvE. The creators of the game can make it much more interesting and creative, balancing for the first time both gamestyles! Now THAT will be an achievement that I will gladly vote for! Go EvE!
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:28:00 - [47] Originally by: Miss Overlord fan-boi ism is good ... Why? What does it help? Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:37:00 - [48] Done n done. smack the wowtards! KIA EVE Home
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:56:00 - [49] Voted. Had to go with EVE pretty much every time since it was either WoW or EVE, and WoW has never shown itself to be better in any of those categories to me. I should've continued to refrain from posting on that website though, some people just never get it... Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Caedicus Minmatar Einherjar Rising Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:59:00 - [50] ROFL...people think EVE's PVE is better than WOW's?? Disclaimer: I played WoW up to level 60, but I no longer play because it's PVP is what really sucked. I've played Eve and PVE'd exensively (to make money) for 5 months. Seriously, how many times can you do "Massive Attack" or "Retribution" before you get bored of them. The fact the I am doing the exact same missions over and over again is a total immersion killer. EVE's PVE is totally based around repetition. Another immersion killer is that your communication between the agents that give you missions are between static sets of text. Your agents say the exact same things over and over and don't have their own personality. I get no feeling that I'm part of a cool and diffrent universe. I just doing the missions to make some money. Don't even get me started on the nightmare that is looting after you clear a misison. WOW's PVE is better on so many levels. It has several order of magnitudes higher of content. More unique enemies, more unique quests, and more story behind the quests. There are many quests that require group and teamwork, which IMO is fun. The instances are full of triggers and dynamic events. Hell, they have servers for people who like to PVE only. Blizzard has put tons of work to cater to people who enjoy solo PVE, as well as group PVE. CCP hasn't even made missions that give rewards to a group instead of the player who owns the mission. If you like to blow ships up better than chopping up night elfs. That's cool...it means that you like sci-fi better than fantasy. But it doesn't mean that EVE's PVE is better than WoW's. The whole reason why I play Eve is because WoW's PVP is like EVE's PVE...boring. Eve's PVP continues to be interesting to me. Evolution in Eve:
Dark Shikari Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.06 00:15:00 - [51] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 06/12/2006 00:15:38 Originally by: Caedicus ROFL...people think EVE's PVE is better than WOW's?? Disclaimer: I played WoW up to level 60, but I no longer play because it's PVP is what really sucked. I've played Eve and PVE'd exensively (to make money) for 5 months. Seriously, how many times can you do "Massive Attack" or "Retribution" before you get bored of them. Level 4 combat missions, contrary to the belief of empire 'bears, are not the only form of PvE in EVE -[23] Member- Awesome new space games site, from the editor of E-ON!
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.06 00:58:00 - [52] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 05/12/2006 23:12:33 Ok what the hell, you have WoW as a graphics nominee, then in the PVE page, the WoW description: World of Warcraft, Blizzard Entertainment World of Warcraft is the polar opposite of EverQuest II. It has impeccable art direction, but low-tech graphics. It's an eternal debate of style vs. substance, with some preferring to push their graphics cards to the limits, while others just want something pleasing to the eye. So maybe it'sd just me, but if a game's graphics are low tech, then why is it even a choice for graphics? As the header for that category states, graphics are not only about the number of polygons, it's what you do with them that counts. By todays standards EVE has low tech graphics but it still looks great because it has great art direction. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:30:00 - [53] Originally by: Hoshi Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 05/12/2006 23:12:33 Ok what the hell, you have WoW as a graphics nominee, then in the PVE page, the WoW description: World of Warcraft, Blizzard Entertainment World of Warcraft is the polar opposite of EverQuest II. It has impeccable art direction, but low-tech graphics. It's an eternal debate of style vs. substance, with some preferring to push their graphics cards to the limits, while others just want something pleasing to the eye. So maybe it'sd just me, but if a game's graphics are low tech, then why is it even a choice for graphics? As the header for that category states, graphics are not only about the number of polygons, it's what you do with them that counts. By todays standards EVE has low tech graphics but it still looks great because it has great art direction. Even what WoW does with them isn't that good. I've had plenty of people watch me play EVE and ask 'wow is that a new game?', only to be shocked when they find out how old the graphics and engine are. WoW's graphics are about on Par with Quake 3's, if that, when you consider some of the sweet custom icons some people have made for it (Andriod 17 or Zero ftw). Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Reiisha Satal's Legion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:30:00 - [54] Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Verus Potestas Originally by: Dark Shikari Originally by: Verus Potestas How did Eve get nominated for PvE? Because by comparison to World of Warcraft, its good. Do you notice how much of EVE is PvE? We have hundreds of complexes (more than WoW), an entire exploration system where you can find your own "raids", and four massive COSMOS constellations, plus hundreds of missions. Well, no-one had played exploration when Eve got nominated it. Eve's mission system consists of a rotator of doing the same 16 facile missions repeatedly in a slightly different order or moving from belt to belt killing simple spawns. Also available, camping high sec plexes or running 0.0 ones after downtime, all of which are so meticulously timetabled and planned as to remove any player freedom. Empire COSMOS is runnable once, and takes about 2 weeks to do both factions available (standings really prevent you from doing both blocks). 0.0 COSMOS hadn't even been seen when the nominations happened either. Or you can mine. Seriously, I think you need to stop fanboying so much. Eve is a great game, and it's a PvP and market game. WoW is a crap game with little staying power, but an excellent PvE experience from 1-60. Eve PvE exists purely to make cash really, and isn't really loved. WoW PvE is WoW. I think that WoW is a far inferior game to Eve, and this is easily evidenced by the fact I play Eve, not WoW. However, trying to say that Eve is a better PvE experience than WoW seems to suggest that either you haven't done WoW's, or you haven't tried Eve's. I'm thinking Eve's. World of Warcraft only has about four quests in the entire game. They're just madlibbed with different words. You can say EVE's PvE is mediocre, but telling me World of Warcraft's is better is flat-out lying. By that logic, EVE really has only 2 PvE experiences (kill and courier actions). WoW actually has more actions available :P You're starting to sound like a really unhealthy fanboi now DS - I hope the forum whoring didn't make you insane EVE History Wiki - Help us fill it!
Vincent Aran	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:48:00 - [55] I didn't read the whole thread, but I voted for EVE in most of the categories because I really enjoyed my experience during the 14 days trial in august, now I subscribed for 1 month yesterday and if I could erase my votes I don't think I would vote for EVE again... I guess it's just very bad timing for me but since yesterday the fun I had playing is not even close to the fun I had in august during those 14 days. Now I don't plan to stop playing and if they fix the problem I'll renew my subscription for 3 more months but right now I don't think they deserve any award...
Oreh Anavrin No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:51:00 - [56] "EVE is one of the finalists for PvE? Give me a break. EVE's PvE is absoultey horrible. Your awards are being completely trashed by a link on the EVE forums telling their fans to come over here and vote. I'm suprised the most anticipated game cateogry didn't have a selction for "EVE: Upcoming, but as of yet unannounced, expansion" I voted for all the games that weren't EVE just so it doesn't win. I think WoW sucks for the most part as well but just voted for it so EVE wouldn't win." This place is a goldmine of comedy.

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Apoctasy SOTI Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.06 02:15:00 - [58] I predict eve winning a whole ton of them like last year...
Malakai0 Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.06 04:58:00 - [59] Voted. Lots of people on their forums are up in arms about eve rivaling wow on the pve segment. I fail to see what's so great about wow pve. Sure it's fun from 1-60, but it's essentially the same 3 or 4 quests with different names and mobs to kill/things to ferry around/ect. Eve's pve is one aspect of the game, wow's pve is the game. Like, in eve we run complexes to make isk to blow on pvp. In wow, since you never lose an item once you get it, the only point to the pve is to, well, be able to pve more (since u need teh items from dungeon A to be able to do dungeon B). sigh wow was so monotonous in every way. Fun for 3 months sure, but it can never compare to the longevity of eve. _________________________ - We are Eye Of God, being so, we see the big picture. - Axiom is a self-evident truth upon which other knowledge must rest AND if its not self-evident to you, thats what
Detavi Kade	Posted - 2006.12.06 05:03:00 - [60] I will laugh if EVE wins all the categories, even the PVE one. I think it is more demonstrative of how poor the current crop of MMO's are, than of how awesome EVE is. EVE is good, but that's just LOL.

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