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Kojiami
Dark Empire Fleet Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:13:00 -
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God, screw cap injectors. Those POSes should be taken out of the game, or the charges should be missle sized. The concept of anything requiring cargo space to efficiently be used (Except ore and industrial stuff, POS fuel, etc) is proposterous.
Using a cap injector is like saying "Hey, let's fire for 2 minutes than be useless". Come on, nobody should rely on an item that completly rapes cargo space and cannot be carried in near infinite quantities (like small missles for example).
I'd rather shell out 1,5bil for a chelm recharger than use a completly broken module that is being forced upon amarr. These things need a makeover.
Possibilities:
1) make charges 0.1-1.5 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of charges midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship.
2) Don't make them use charges at all - make them deteriorate trough time (A la mining chrystals), and increase their manufacturing costs manifold. Maybe slightly nerf them.
3) Keep them like they are, but add a new category that works the same way, but without charges. This new category uses 12500 CPU, but all amarr ships (Without any exceptions) get a -99,8% reduction in CPU usage. This would give amarr the long needed buff they deserve - no more CAP problems.
This would also solve the problem of the overpowered NOS. From then on, a NOS would be a small hindrance and a boost to your own cap, and for really destroying cap there are neuts.
It's awesome being amarr, ISN'T IT? |
DiuxDium
The Graduates
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:16:00 -
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Why not just give Amaar Infinite Cap. Then give anyone who fits a cap injector infinite cap as well to 'balance' things.
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Verus Potestas
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:18:00 -
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I loves it. Gallente and Minmatar have been totally injector reliant for ages, but now Amarr (race with largest cargoholds and smallest ammo carrying needs) have a ship which needs them to, it's the end of the world
Anyway, your points:
1) Fights last forever. Non-injector ships useless. 2) Wrong in so many ways, not least of which 1) 3) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy |
Kojiami
Dark Empire Fleet Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:18:00 -
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Actually, not a bad idea. Amarr are extremly cap intensive - it's so, SO easy to destroy any amarr with a NOS. Near-infinite cap for amarr wouldn't be a bad idea at all.
It's awesome being amarr, ISN'T IT? |
DiuxDium
The Graduates
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kojiami Actually, not a bad idea. Amarr are extremly cap intensive - it's so, SO easy to destroy any amarr with a NOS. Near-infinite cap for amarr wouldn't be a bad idea at all.
Yeah. I like the idea of someone being able to run 7x LAR II's 23/7 as well. Your proposition is ludicrous at best. Sorry. I make sigs for free. Do eve-mail me if you're intrested. |
Lyta Reimalken
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:25:00 -
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Suggestion three made me so very happy. You have truly brightened what has been an otherwise torrid day :D You were joking right....?
Anyhow, Amarr arent the only ones who need cap injectors, Ammarians feeling sorry for themselves is one thing, but seriously... :D
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kublai
Short Attention Span
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:28:00 -
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Give me 1000 cap 800's onboard my ship, and I will tank -any- battleship for all eternity no matter what damage he throws at me, he'll i'll let him invite two friends and keep laughing.
Learn to play, what you suggest would be gamebreaking.
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Mortuus
Minmatar Just-fun Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:28:00 -
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Yea, because cap injectors ruin a setup....you know, like my friends Heavy Pulse Harbinger with a mean tank....
ex-Occassus Republica <3 |
Tunajuice
Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:34:00 -
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How long a gallentte fights is limited by his drone bay size and how many spare drones.
How long a caldari fights is limited by his missile quantity (obviously this is the hardest to run out of of the stuff listed).
It's not that unreasonable that if an amarr wants super dps + super tank, they have to relay on a cargo based mod.
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Tiuwaz
Minmatar Omacron Militia
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:40:00 -
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has god stopped handing out brains?
Originally by: Gallente Information Ministry A Myrmidon pilot with 5 heavy drones is a bad pilot, someone who dies to him can only be worse.
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Xori Ruscuv
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:45:00 -
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Yes, please, boycott cap injectors.
And then I'll make sure my cargo hold is full of them and come kick your ass!
It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it?
This IS my main! I just did a portrait swap... |
xPreatorianx
Caldari Immortalis Silens Atrocitas
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:45:00 -
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ROFL and to think axiom helped ascn take over Paragon soul. You my friend do not have a brain at all.
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Jim Steele
Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kojiami Actually, not a bad idea. Amarr are extremly cap intensive - it's so, SO easy to destroy any amarr with a NOS.
Not really you just fit a NOS on an Apoc.
Author of "The Apoc Guide" |
Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.05 23:54:00 -
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This is a joke thread...right?
~Thor Xian, Material Administrator
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
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Murukan
Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.06 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kojiami
Possibilities:
1) make charges 0.1-1.5 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of charges midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship.
10/10 on the joke thread.
I would like to highlight this particularly funny line. Man i sure hope those cap 800's that cost like 20k isk don't bankrupt me!!
And if you're actually serious please get a visectomy cause your line should end with you, it's too pitiful to be carried on
Manlove by Zaphod Jones
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Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2006.12.06 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Kojiami God, screw cap injectors. Those POSes should be taken out of the game, or the charges should be missle sized. The concept of anything requiring cargo space to efficiently be used (Except ore and industrial stuff, POS fuel, etc) is proposterous.
Yeah, screw the whole concept of cap recharge, and screw nos completely!
So you lost because you ran out of cap charges, what makes you think you'd win with 5x more? Ever stop to think the guy who was better just might be using a cap injector too?
Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
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Toolivus
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Posted - 2006.12.06 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kojiami 1) make charges 0.1-1.5 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of charges midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship.
1) make ammo 0.001-0.015 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of ammo midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari The Keep THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.06 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Toolivus
Originally by: Kojiami 1) make charges 0.1-1.5 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of charges midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship.
1) make ammo 0.001-0.015 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of ammo midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship.
One of the things that ammar do have going for them is no need for ammo. .001-.015 m3 ammo might as well be infinate ammo. Anyways, I have never lost a fight due to running out of ammo. Always ran out of cap injectors first.
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Axitikus
Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.06 03:45:00 -
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Threads like this make me cry.
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Hllaxiu
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.06 04:01:00 -
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Just replace capacitor with isk. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
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Warrio
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.06 04:06:00 -
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The Amarr crying thing is getting old hey.
Fatal Revelations -LV-
Winners never quit and quitters never win. But those who never win and never quit are ISK farmers. - Plato |
DiuxDium
The Graduates
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Posted - 2006.12.06 04:37:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu Just replace capacitor with isk.
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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.12.06 08:19:00 -
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And this is why, when AXE tried to recruit my alt, I said no. And I was only going there to rat, too.
I'm sure you die a lot; Darwinism at it's best.
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Kojiami
Dark Empire Fleet Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.06 08:50:00 -
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Edited by: Kojiami on 06/12/2006 08:50:13 Yeah morons, keep flaming because you know you aren't amarr. Caldari, min and gallente are all afraid of some competition, so you make sure to act like brainless ****s so "Public oppinion" by the developers stays the same. I hope you get hit in trafic.
Oh and, another thing - i'm not speaking on behalf of Axiom Empire, but myself. Stop blaming my damn alliance.
It's awesome being amarr, ISN'T IT? |
Sev Renard
Gallente Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2006.12.06 09:03:00 -
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When you choose to show your corp and alliance publicly on the forums, you're representing them, whether you like it or not.
However, if we all had infinite cap as this situation would allow us, think of the advantage that shieldtanked ships would have. Who needs an SBA when you can just throw on another booster because you have so much cap you don't know what to do with it. I actually like the way cap boosters work at the moment, and as I fly gallente, I am also cap dependent, sure, not nearly as much as amarr, but I still realize the need for a certain amount of balance in such things regardless of race. _________________________________________
I wonder which will come first, my portrait, or a sig hijack... |
Strangely Brown
Cult of the Purple Wolf
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Posted - 2006.12.06 09:54:00 -
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OMG! I don't think he's joking
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Dragon Lord
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Posted - 2006.12.06 12:33:00 -
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wow he isnt, he isnt joking, i like it, infinate cap ftw :)) Pvp wise way overpowered, fill ur mids with cap injectors with 800s in, all ur lows with LAR's and u could tank an armarda. Yeh great idea not. I cant belive ur serious everone would fly armour tankers if this was put in simply because cap injectors us mid slots. imagine it just 4 cap injectors = 800 cap/s for ur battle ship. if cap 800's were ray small, thats endless cap for ur unkillable bs. Imagine how many repairers u could fit and run forever with 800cap/s? MADNESS i tell u.
Btw if by some oversight by ccp they do but this in for you, what are u gonna do when every enemie uses the same trick? spend 6hrs trying to kill each other?
This is simply a very stupid thread and the reason i say this are listed below.
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Durethia
Nubs. Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.06 12:33:00 -
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Originally by: GO MaZ
Deimos
All ships that can and do use very viable cap injected setups. You'll probably find that just about any gallente close range ship fitted with guns is using cap injectors. Dont make out that amarr is the only race that has cap problems
GO MaZ! Were you able to fit a cap injector on a Deimos? Must have been using civilian gatling rails on that puppy... but boy, I can imagine the tank!
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GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.06 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: GO MaZ on 06/12/2006 12:39:52
Originally by: Durethia GO MaZ! Were you able to fit a cap injector on a Deimos? Must have been using civilian gatling rails on that puppy... but boy, I can imagine the tank!
Bahha.. 2 power grid rigs, I fitted a 1600 plate, a small rep, ELECTRONS, and a med electrochem injector and I ACTUALLY MANAGED TO KILL A TIER 2 BC
As a final point relating to the OP, this isnt even new. Amarr ships have been using cap injectors since the old gankgeddon. How do you think you keep a megapulse / dhp geddon going without one?
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Twin blade
Minmatar The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2006.12.06 12:38:00 -
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He is a moron or just joking around as he fails to see Every PVP ship more or less has to have one and its alot worse for Gallent and minny.
Tempest Typhoon Megathorn
There is 3 ships that need a cap booster's to fight and there are alot more ships that need booster's to fight.
Its funny how the race with a massive cargo bay not Used for Ammo needs to whine over booster's when there whole cargo bay is used for them compaired to maybe 50% for gallent and minny. !
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