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Kojiami Dark Empire Fleet Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:13:00 - [1] God, screw cap injectors. Those POSes should be taken out of the game, or the charges should be missle sized. The concept of anything requiring cargo space to efficiently be used (Except ore and industrial stuff, POS fuel, etc) is proposterous. Using a cap injector is like saying "Hey, let's fire for 2 minutes than be useless". Come on, nobody should rely on an item that completly rapes cargo space and cannot be carried in near infinite quantities (like small missles for example). I'd rather shell out 1,5bil for a chelm recharger than use a completly broken module that is being forced upon amarr. These things need a makeover. Possibilities: 1) make charges 0.1-1.5 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of charges midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship. 2) Don't make them use charges at all - make them deteriorate trough time (A la mining chrystals), and increase their manufacturing costs manifold. Maybe slightly nerf them. 3) Keep them like they are, but add a new category that works the same way, but without charges. This new category uses 12500 CPU, but all amarr ships (Without any exceptions) get a -99,8% reduction in CPU usage. This would give amarr the long needed buff they deserve - no more CAP problems. This would also solve the problem of the overpowered NOS. From then on, a NOS would be a small hindrance and a boost to your own cap, and for really destroying cap there are neuts. It's awesome being amarr, ISN'T IT?
DiuxDium The Graduates	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:16:00 - [2] Why not just give Amaar Infinite Cap. Then give anyone who fits a cap injector infinite cap as well to 'balance' things. I make sigs for free. Do eve-mail me if you're intrested.
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:18:00 - [3] I loves it. Gallente and Minmatar have been totally injector reliant for ages, but now Amarr (race with largest cargoholds and smallest ammo carrying needs) have a ship which needs them to, it's the end of the world Anyway, your points: 1) Fights last forever. Non-injector ships useless. 2) Wrong in so many ways, not least of which 1) 3) AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Kojiami Dark Empire Fleet Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:18:00 - [4] Actually, not a bad idea. Amarr are extremly cap intensive - it's so, SO easy to destroy any amarr with a NOS. Near-infinite cap for amarr wouldn't be a bad idea at all. It's awesome being amarr, ISN'T IT?
DiuxDium The Graduates	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:23:00 - [5] Originally by: Kojiami Actually, not a bad idea. Amarr are extremly cap intensive - it's so, SO easy to destroy any amarr with a NOS. Near-infinite cap for amarr wouldn't be a bad idea at all. Yeah. I like the idea of someone being able to run 7x LAR II's 23/7 as well. Your proposition is ludicrous at best. Sorry. I make sigs for free. Do eve-mail me if you're intrested.
Lyta Reimalken Minmatar	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:25:00 - [6] Suggestion three made me so very happy. You have truly brightened what has been an otherwise torrid day :D You were joking right....? Anyhow, Amarr arent the only ones who need cap injectors, Ammarians feeling sorry for themselves is one thing, but seriously... :D
kublai Short Attention Span	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:28:00 - [7] Give me 1000 cap 800's onboard my ship, and I will tank -any- battleship for all eternity no matter what damage he throws at me, he'll i'll let him invite two friends and keep laughing. Learn to play, what you suggest would be gamebreaking. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
Mortuus Minmatar Just-fun Distant Star Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:28:00 - [8] Yea, because cap injectors ruin a setup....you know, like my friends Heavy Pulse Harbinger with a mean tank.... ex-Occassus Republica <3
Tunajuice Convergent Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:34:00 - [9] How long a gallentte fights is limited by his drone bay size and how many spare drones. How long a caldari fights is limited by his missile quantity (obviously this is the hardest to run out of of the stuff listed). It's not that unreasonable that if an amarr wants super dps + super tank, they have to relay on a cargo based mod.
Tiuwaz Minmatar Omacron Militia	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:40:00 - [10] has god stopped handing out brains? Originally by: Gallente Information Ministry A Myrmidon pilot with 5 heavy drones is a bad pilot, someone who dies to him can only be worse.
Xori Ruscuv Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:45:00 - [11] Yes, please, boycott cap injectors. And then I'll make sure my cargo hold is full of them and come kick your ass! It's great playing Caldari-online, isn't it? This IS my main! I just did a portrait swap...
xPreatorianx Caldari Immortalis Silens Atrocitas	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:45:00 - [12] ROFL and to think axiom helped ascn take over Paragon soul. You my friend do not have a brain at all.
Jim Steele Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Kojiami Actually, not a bad idea. Amarr are extremly cap intensive - it's so, SO easy to destroy any amarr with a NOS. Not really you just fit a NOS on an Apoc. Author of "The Apoc Guide"
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:54:00 - [14] This is a joke thread...right? ~Thor Xian, Material Administrator "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Corp/Alliance Services
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:55:00 - [15] Originally by: Kojiami Possibilities: 1) make charges 0.1-1.5 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of charges midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship. 10/10 on the joke thread. I would like to highlight this particularly funny line. Man i sure hope those cap 800's that cost like 20k isk don't bankrupt me!! And if you're actually serious please get a visectomy cause your line should end with you, it's too pitiful to be carried on Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.06 01:59:00 - [16] Originally by: Kojiami God, screw cap injectors. Those POSes should be taken out of the game, or the charges should be missle sized. The concept of anything requiring cargo space to efficiently be used (Except ore and industrial stuff, POS fuel, etc) is proposterous. Yeah, screw the whole concept of cap recharge, and screw nos completely! So you lost because you ran out of cap charges, what makes you think you'd win with 5x more? Ever stop to think the guy who was better just might be using a cap injector too? Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.
Toolivus	Posted - 2006.12.06 03:00:00 - [17] Originally by: Kojiami 1) make charges 0.1-1.5 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of charges midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship. 1) make ammo 0.001-0.015 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of ammo midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship.
Audri Fisher Caldari The Keep THE R0CK	Posted - 2006.12.06 03:12:00 - [18] Originally by: Toolivus Originally by: Kojiami 1) make charges 0.1-1.5 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of charges midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship. 1) make ammo 0.001-0.015 M3. This way, they will be ISK dependant only. Nothing is as stupid as running out of ammo midfight, losing only because YOUR CARGO ISN'T BIG ENOUGH. What, should we start fitting expanders on our BSes? That's BS, and i'm not talking about a battleship. One of the things that ammar do have going for them is no need for ammo. .001-.015 m3 ammo might as well be infinate ammo. Anyways, I have never lost a fight due to running out of ammo. Always ran out of cap injectors first.
Axitikus Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.06 03:45:00 - [19] Threads like this make me cry.
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.06 04:01:00 - [20] Just replace capacitor with isk. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Warrio Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.06 04:06:00 - [21] The Amarr crying thing is getting old hey. Fatal Revelations -LV- Winners never quit and quitters never win. But those who never win and never quit are ISK farmers. - Plato
DiuxDium The Graduates	Posted - 2006.12.06 04:37:00 - [22] Originally by: Hllaxiu Just replace capacitor with isk. Quote of the day. I make sigs for free. Do eve-mail me if you're intrested.
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.12.06 08:19:00 - [23] And this is why, when AXE tried to recruit my alt, I said no. And I was only going there to rat, too. I'm sure you die a lot; Darwinism at it's best. Scrapheap Challenge Forums
Kojiami Dark Empire Fleet Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.06 08:50:00 - [24] Edited by: Kojiami on 06/12/2006 08:50:13 Yeah morons, keep flaming because you know you aren't amarr. Caldari, min and gallente are all afraid of some competition, so you make sure to act like brainless ****s so "Public oppinion" by the developers stays the same. I hope you get hit in trafic. Oh and, another thing - i'm not speaking on behalf of Axiom Empire, but myself. Stop blaming my damn alliance. It's awesome being amarr, ISN'T IT?
Sev Renard Gallente Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.12.06 09:03:00 - [25] When you choose to show your corp and alliance publicly on the forums, you're representing them, whether you like it or not. However, if we all had infinite cap as this situation would allow us, think of the advantage that shieldtanked ships would have. Who needs an SBA when you can just throw on another booster because you have so much cap you don't know what to do with it. I actually like the way cap boosters work at the moment, and as I fly gallente, I am also cap dependent, sure, not nearly as much as amarr, but I still realize the need for a certain amount of balance in such things regardless of race. _________________________________________ I wonder which will come first, my portrait, or a sig hijack...
Strangely Brown Cult of the Purple Wolf	Posted - 2006.12.06 09:54:00 - [26] OMG! I don't think he's joking
Dragon Lord	Posted - 2006.12.06 12:33:00 - [27] wow he isnt, he isnt joking, i like it, infinate cap ftw :)) Pvp wise way overpowered, fill ur mids with cap injectors with 800s in, all ur lows with LAR's and u could tank an armarda. Yeh great idea not. I cant belive ur serious everone would fly armour tankers if this was put in simply because cap injectors us mid slots. imagine it just 4 cap injectors = 800 cap/s for ur battle ship. if cap 800's were ray small, thats endless cap for ur unkillable bs. Imagine how many repairers u could fit and run forever with 800cap/s? MADNESS i tell u. Btw if by some oversight by ccp they do but this in for you, what are u gonna do when every enemie uses the same trick? spend 6hrs trying to kill each other? This is simply a very stupid thread and the reason i say this are listed below.
Durethia Nubs. Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.06 12:33:00 - [28] Originally by: GO MaZ Deimos All ships that can and do use very viable cap injected setups. You'll probably find that just about any gallente close range ship fitted with guns is using cap injectors. Dont make out that amarr is the only race that has cap problems GO MaZ! Were you able to fit a cap injector on a Deimos? Must have been using civilian gatling rails on that puppy... but boy, I can imagine the tank!
GO MaZ The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.06 12:37:00 - [29] Edited by: GO MaZ on 06/12/2006 12:39:52 Originally by: Durethia GO MaZ! Were you able to fit a cap injector on a Deimos? Must have been using civilian gatling rails on that puppy... but boy, I can imagine the tank! Bahha.. 2 power grid rigs, I fitted a 1600 plate, a small rep, ELECTRONS, and a med electrochem injector and I ACTUALLY MANAGED TO KILL A TIER 2 BC As a final point relating to the OP, this isnt even new. Amarr ships have been using cap injectors since the old gankgeddon. How do you think you keep a megapulse / dhp geddon going without one?
Twin blade Minmatar The Caldari Confederation	Posted - 2006.12.06 12:38:00 - [30] He is a moron or just joking around as he fails to see Every PVP ship more or less has to have one and its alot worse for Gallent and minny. Tempest Typhoon Megathorn There is 3 ships that need a cap booster's to fight and there are alot more ships that need booster's to fight. Its funny how the race with a massive cargo bay not Used for Ammo needs to whine over booster's when there whole cargo bay is used for them compaired to maybe 50% for gallent and minny. !
Asuo Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.12.06 13:03:00 - [31] To the op, if you think this is your problem then I think you may need to step back a bit and look at the bigger picture. When posting on these boards expect your post's to be tore to shreds, it's going to happen, so don't let people get to you. But yea I have to disagree with your idea. ----------------------------------------------- EECC recuitment thread.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.06 13:56:00 - [32] i found a a pic of the op Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Malkavian Spirit Minmatar Instant Travel Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.06 14:02:00 - [33] Originally by: Murukan i found a a pic of the op qft
Slevin Kalebra	Posted - 2006.12.06 14:26:00 - [34] Amarr get infinite cap....but to balance that Caldari get infinite shields, gallente get infinite armor and minmatar get infinite ... duck tape? (ok then, infinite speed). Now we're all happy, we all won Eve because we all have completely invulnerable ships so we can all quit and get on with the rest of our lives.
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.06 14:28:00 - [35] Infinite cap...mmm can I have some?
Kojiami Dark Empire Fleet Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.06 14:32:00 - [36] Quote: Yeh great idea not. I cant belive ur serious everone would fly armour tankers Ohh, the same way everyone is shield tanking now? I still remember the guy that was posting shield tanking setups for harbinger, dominix, geddon and apoc.. It's awesome being amarr, ISN'T IT?
Mihae Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.06 15:19:00 - [37] I laughted so mutch that I fell of my chair... It's a Kitty ffs!
Montero Black Omega Security	Posted - 2006.12.06 16:42:00 - [38] STFU RTFM and the go play something else. Jesus christ... the OP is probably one of the most retarded people playing Eve. How do you even know how to work a PC? Don't you find yourself becoming confused by the way it uses power to run? --------- Scrapheap Challenge
Gaogan Gallente Solar Storm Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.06 16:47:00 - [39] I would like to point out that this guy is a noob with a corp that only recently joined AXE. /me bows head in shame
mallina Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.06 16:50:00 - [40] Quote: 1) make charges 0.1-1.5 M3. what...? ----------- Turbulance
goodby4u	Posted - 2006.12.06 17:01:00 - [41] This would buff amarr ships way too much(coming even from an amarr pilot)if you wanted to boost amarr dont give them infinite cap just one hell of alot with a pretty slow recharge,that would make our ships what they were ment to be-lasts against a bigger force longer then any other armor tanking race.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.06 18:32:00 - [42] infinate cap + 8x xl boosters on a scorp would be interesting Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Ramblin Man Empyreum	Posted - 2006.12.06 18:54:00 - [43] Originally by: Montero STFU RTFM and the go play something else. Jesus christ... the OP is probably one of the most retarded people playing Eve. How do you even know how to work a PC? Don't you find yourself becoming confused by the way it uses power to run? I'd imagine it would be obvious to anyone with a head in their brain. Infinite power comes from the wall. Duhhhh.
Murehz	Posted - 2006.12.06 19:12:00 - [44] Originally by: Kojiami 3) Keep them like they are, but add a new category that works the same way, but without charges. This new category uses 12500 CPU, but all amarr ships (Without any exceptions) get a -99,8% reduction in CPU usage. This would give amarr the long needed buff they deserve - no more CAP problems. That idea is sooooo unbeliviably stupid that I am completely lost for words.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.06 19:13:00 - [45] tbh kojiama needs to be a dev, i hope you post more cause your ideas are teh sex! Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Alowishus Shadow Company Alektorophobia	Posted - 2006.12.06 19:22:00 - [46] This thread is a disgrace. I hope your alliance boots you for being so stupid.
Athanasios Anastasiou Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.12.06 19:33:00 - [47] New scorp pvp setup: 6x XL shield boosters .

Oiri Yusko Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.06 19:34:00 - [48] Please keep it clean and refrain from flaming each other. forum rules\|[email protected]

Lygos Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.06 20:12:00 - [49] Edited by: Lygos on 06/12/2006 20:17:17 I wish my geddon said: Special Ability: 20% bonus to Capacitor Booster output and 5% Large Energy Turret rate of fire per level. When you get right down to it though, the Armageddon only has a cargo hold that is 8.5 meters to a side. 8.5m^3 The Omen has a cargo hold 7.5 meters to a side, and the Punisher's is 5 meters to a side. --- T2 Risk
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.12.06 21:53:00 - [50] Originally by: GO MaZ Megathron Dominix Tempest Raven Armageddon Hyperion Abaddon Brutix Astarte Eos Damnation Absolution Harbinger Myrmidon Hurricane Nighthawk Vulture Claymore Sleipnir Deimos Typhoon All ships that can and do use very viable cap injected setups. You'll probably find that just about any gallente close range ship fitted with guns is using cap injectors. Dont make out that amarr is the only race that has cap problems Fixed. I found a cap booster on a Nanophoon gives you that extra oomph to run the **** away when you get counter-nossed, when your enemy runs dry and keeps on truckin', or when you just plain forget to turn off the MWD... not that I ever do anything of the sort ;) ---------------------------- Buying Sabres. EVEmail or convo me in game!
Dephma Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.06 22:07:00 - [51] Awwwww. Would you like a bottle of WHINE to ease the pain? ========= You would make a lovely corpse
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.06 22:34:00 - [52] There are a few suggestions on my website relating to cap charges (link in my sig). The idea behind it is that cap charges need not be a finite resource. There are situations where they can be restocked, such as having a carrier nearby, having an industrial drop some for you in an empire war or having a secure can full anchored in your home turf. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Alerce	Posted - 2006.12.06 22:38:00 - [53] So, warpstabs are totally nerved and are not even valid to place on mining ships to mine in low security. And so now they take a next item to whine about? So lets assume the cap injectors are taken out. What will be then the next item, that you will whine about to take out?
Kery Syander Minmatar Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2006.12.06 22:50:00 - [54] boohoo. Amarr shouldn't have to worry about cap! It's so unfair... Seriously dude cap boosters are fine they way they are. They take up tons of space to prevent people from from perma-tanking. If you are having trouble killing things before running out of cap charges, then you need to bring more gank. Think things through before running to the forums claiming things are broken. No one is forcing you to fit a cap booster on your ship.
Bardi MecAuldnis Amarr Pirates of Destruction Union	Posted - 2006.12.06 23:05:00 - [55] Please boycott Cap Injectors... That way you can die and won't have to blame our ever so miniscule cargo bay that is just crammed full of ammo, oh wait... Please, I have no BC skills whatsoever and I killed a corpmate in a Brutix with tanking skills out the hoo ha using a cap injected Harbinger. Cap Injectors are awesome. --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!!
Tibrius Archer hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.07 01:58:00 - [56] I hate those fools who are "like omg stupid" "omg he is a fool" some go-with-the-flow idiot above who I can't even be arsed to quote. See his point! The bigger picture! Don't just quickly make fun of the way it was written by saying flippant remarks designed only to attempt to persuade other posters your a funny person. I see his point about injectors.... I think the only way the eve team will have all there sub system targeting and heat management goals realised is to sort out injectors. Injectors encourage extreme do everything setups that are of the very nature of short simple combat (What rev's and future updates are try to move away from.) It is a little silly how some ships need a injector to be of any use in PvP. We are dealing with large ships here ships they should be able to 'duke-it-out' in a majestic drawn out way and cap injectors are a source of the problem. Natural power seems more si-fi acceptable. A ship with the megathrons mass cost and battlefield presence should not go down in 3-4 mins due to lack of power (injector out cap death). Though a lot of eve would have to be rethought NOS, MWD penalties etc to remove the cap injector as it is now. The developers are going this way and I think looking at how to phase out cap injectors is a step in the right direction GOOD POST KOJIMAI. I know my post goes a little of in another direction, but think about the logical point a post is trying to make don't just flame it. Final thoughts maybe some sort of fuel in eve, maybe no recharge modules just a reactor core module or something that converts belt ice products into cap maybe every ship needs this module to undock who knows maybe some ability to shift this reactor output to engines visa versa? Maybe these reactors could have varying efficiencies from very efficient but low conversation rate to cap (NPCing/mining ideal) or very inefficient but a high conversation rate (ganking blasterthron ideal reactor). I dunno I am not gonna spend all day doing Tuxfords job. In the short term up cap recharge rates on cap recharging modules to make them more competitive with injectors and seed some more Cap recharger 2 BPOÆs 20 million isk is too much. ***************************************** "Get in my way and I will burn your fleet from stem to stern"
Siakel	Posted - 2006.12.07 02:24:00 - [57] Originally by: Mortuus Yea, because cap injectors ruin a setup....you know, like my friends Heavy Pulse Harbinger with a mean tank.... Oh, yeah. Singlerep no-plate tanks are insane, aren't they? Heavypulse Harby with an AB II, Injector, Medrep, and the rest of the slots filled with mods that use 1-2 grid is left with 5 grid (AWU4). Originally by: Verus Potestas I loves it. Gallente and Minmatar have been totally injector reliant for ages, but now Amarr (race with largest cargoholds and smallest ammo carrying needs) have a ship which needs them to, it's the end of the world Hm..? Amarr 'finally' have a ship that needs injectors? Because we didn't before? We've always had the highest cap-use weapons, and our other modules use just as much cap as they do when fitted to any other race. Shockingly enough, our extra 5% cap with identical recharge(most of our ships..) isn't enough to offset our extra cap use. So, amazingly enough... we fit injectors when we can. The only reason you don't see injectors on most Amarr ships is that we've got only four ships in our entire T1 lineup that have four midslots, one of which is an EW boat. Our T2 lineup has an additional four ships with four midslots. Two of which are EW boats, the other two... Sacrilege and Damnation. So the reason you might not see many injected Amarr ships is largely due to midslot limitations. Not because we don't need them. (Grid is also a huge issue, but other races also have this issue, though perhaps not as badly as Amarr) Mmm.. kind of got off-track, there. Anyway, care to show me how Minmatar or Gallente are any more injector-reliant than Amarr? I'd love to know.
Dragon Lord	Posted - 2006.12.07 02:41:00 - [58] Originally by: Kojiami Quote: Yeh great idea not. I cant belive ur serious everone would fly armour tankers Ohh, the same way everyone is shield tanking now? I still remember the guy that was posting shield tanking setups for harbinger, dominix, geddon and apoc.. everyone shield tanking? wtf dont think so, alot of ships are much better off armour tanking, plus with armour you use the resistances more for ur tank since there higher to start with than shield res, oh and armour tanking leaves ur mids free ie perfect for pvp oh and CAP injectors lol
mallina Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.07 03:37:00 - [59] only realistic way cap boosters could be that size and remain balanced was if the boost they gave was reduced to half and ships were only capable of fitting 1, which isnt too bad but seeing as certain ships coughAbaddoncough cant keep cap up even WITH an injector going it might force certain setups to change drastically ...and of course make more people use NOS ----------- Turbulance
Kantos Dal'mak	Posted - 2006.12.07 04:07:00 - [60] question- so if everyone boycotts cap injectors, wouldnt it just give a huge advantage to Nosers and people who do use the cap injectors? why gimp yourself more than nessescary?
mallina Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.07 04:17:00 - [61] NOS would become obselete if the OP's suggestion was ever implemented as would shield tanks ----------- Turbulance
Madcat Adams Mission Runners Anonymous Incorporated	Posted - 2006.12.07 04:21:00 - [62] Personally just don't use them much. The OP's ideas are not very well thought out though. If he doesn't want to use one, then don't, go CR & CPR. You won't be pimped to the maximus, but neither will you need to deal with the pain in the arse of trying to keep it fed. Abaddon I won't even touch till can get some cap rigs to compensate for the sadly predictable flaws in it's desighn. It's great being Amarr, ain't it? Aimez- "oh ****, this is empire......." Thanks for the loot, and next time you go out to pirate, carry more tech 2 plz =)
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.07 05:36:00 - [63] Originally by: Breed Love Infinite cap...mmm can I have some? I'd buy that for a dollar.
haniblecter	Posted - 2006.12.07 06:15:00 - [64] Its a temporary boost, You make hte charges too small, and all of the sudden cap rechargers are absolete.
Murukan Minmatar The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.07 07:44:00 - [65] Originally by: mallina NOS would become obselete if the OP's suggestion was ever implemented as would shield tanks umm shield tanks would become ridiculously powerful not obsolete if you had infinate cap. Manlove by Zaphod Jones
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.07 08:20:00 - [66] Originally by: Murukan Originally by: mallina NOS would become obselete if the OP's suggestion was ever implemented as would shield tanks umm shield tanks would become ridiculously powerful not obsolete if you had infinate cap. Well, most things would need you to put injectors in your mids, leaving your lows open for like 5 reps Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Galen Silas Gallente Mean Corp	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:11:00 - [67] Kojiami just for saying something this stupid i think you need to boycott your account.
Almarez	Posted - 2006.12.07 20:00:00 - [68] Originally by: Lyta Reimalken Suggestion three made me so very happy. You have truly brightened what has been an otherwise torrid day :D You were joking right....? Anyhow, Amarr arent the only ones who need cap injectors, Ammarians feeling sorry for themselves is one thing, but seriously... :D Please name a race that depends on cap for both offensive and defensive capabilities. Some Gallente do but there are so many drone ships in that race that you can find one of your liking without having to worry about it. Hell, Caldari can both attack and tank with no cap usage, that is rediculous.
Laboratus Gallente BGG Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.07 22:01:00 - [69] Originally by: Almarez Originally by: Lyta Reimalken Suggestion three made me so very happy. You have truly brightened what has been an otherwise torrid day :D You were joking right....? Anyhow, Amarr arent the only ones who need cap injectors, Ammarians feeling sorry for themselves is one thing, but seriously... :D Please name a race that depends on cap for both offensive and defensive capabilities. Some Gallente do but there are so many drone ships in that race that you can find one of your liking without having to worry about it. Hell, Caldari can both attack and tank with no cap usage, that is rediculous. But to use their nber tank they need cap. Passive tank ok without it, but the active faction/officer/crystal one. It's so sweet. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats

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