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tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 11:42:00 - [91] Well Verone, what you say doesn't effect me personally as I don't 1 vs 1. I can't speak for other PC corps....it's nothing to do with me. Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
David H'Levi Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.12.08 11:44:00 - [92] Originally by: tiller If you don't like the way we play, then tough... it's nothing to do with you tbh. Hawk. Now that that's out of the way... It does affect me. It affects all pirates in EVE. Most people don't see past the blinky to a corp ticker until you point it out to them. Your (lack of?) reputation impugns our reputation. Not a whole lot I can do about it, granted. Still annoying. Moreover, I was responding to the claim that no pirates in EVE honor ransoms, that honoring them is an illusion created by "prey," and all sorts of other groundless statements. Hawk. Hehe, that NEVER gets old. Hawk. We Recruit!
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 11:49:00 - [93] Edited by: tiller on 08/12/2006 12:00:33 Originally by: David H'Levi Originally by: tiller If you don't like the way we play, then tough... it's nothing to do with you tbh. Hawk. Now that that's out of the way... It does affect me. It affects all pirates in EVE. Most people don't see past the blinky to a corp ticker until you point it out to them. Your (lack of?) reputation impugns our reputation. Not a whole lot I can do about it, granted. Still annoying.. You know what the really funny thing is Mr SNIGG, I've never even heard of you, seen you in game, remember you from forums etc etc I guess that makes you a outlaw just riding on my reputation. edit: I was once convod by ginger magician lol Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
David H'Levi Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.12.08 11:50:00 - [94] Originally by: tiller I guess that makes you a outlaw just riding on my reputation. Shamis's, actually. Hawk. Hawk. Hawk. We Recruit!
Saltire System-Lords E N I G M A	Posted - 2006.12.08 11:51:00 - [95] zOMG! be a real pvp pwnz0r speak like me and make forum videos of your faction fitted vindi and be sure to join a 0.0 alliance, then u are teh real pvp'er! oh yeah, put a HAC in your sig for 2" on your epeen remember if you shoot haulers your automaticaly no good at pvp!!! thats what the cool kids say dont reply to these tards tiller its just some epeen swinging
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 11:52:00 - [96] my epeen is <----------------------------------------> this big. btw, don't talk about vindicators.. the very thought of having our whole alliance raped by Farjung earlier this year makes me just want to dock. Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Nagissa Kaworu Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 12:01:00 - [97] Edited by: Nagissa Kaworu on 08/12/2006 12:01:59 God i like these topics Think im gonna mine some veld, cause well im clearly not a real pvper since im not living in 0.0. ps. (i could use a hauler) Nag.
Pesadel0 Vagabundos THE H0RDE	Posted - 2006.12.08 12:04:00 - [98] I'am still from the time that 1vs1 vs pirates was ALWAYS 1vs1 the only ones that would brake that agreement were the newbie pirates or the carebears trying to hgank th pirate ,and they would be in a hell off trouble if someone from snig or any one from the PIRATE corps knew about it . Because they would wardec you and kill you whatever you went. If you broke a 1vs1 agreement what makes you think that anyone will pay your ransom??
Xendie Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.08 12:23:00 - [99] Originally by: tiller my epeen is <----------------------------------------> this big. is your main Ginger minger? and no i dont want a hug, i just came out of the shower and dont want to go back in for atleast a couple of hours. your self percieved epeen might be that big but the real one is more like 1/1000th of a inch. the Snigg/Veto ones on the other hand is way bigger then yours both in percieved and actual size. you are whats generally referred to as kiddie-pirats. you will fit right nice alongside Ginger Minger. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 12:28:00 - [100] Originally by: Xendie Originally by: tiller my epeen is <----------------------------------------> this big. is your main Ginger minger? and no i dont want a hug, i just came out of the shower and dont want to go back in for atleast a couple of hours. your self percieved epeen might be that big but the real one is more like 1/1000th of a inch. the Snigg/Veto ones on the other hand is way bigger then yours both in percieved and actual size. you are whats generally referred to as kiddie-pirats. you will fit right nice alongside Ginger Minger. What makes me laugh, I actually admire Ginger, one of my favorite eve characters... as a I said before, I've heard of him, you however, errm who are you ? First hug is free btw, further hugs charged at 50m isk. Thankyou Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Nagissa Kaworu Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 12:30:00 - [101] Hey Xendie Hush!!! FFS its a game!!! You know, something you play for FUN!! The fact that this issue seems to affect you so much makes me kind of wonder. Nag.
Lanfear's Bane Shih Yang Tong Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 12:33:00 - [102] Who are all you people making up rules for me to play by? I personally honour ransoms, but that's just me, however if people don't honour them, I respect their right not to. Originally by: Evelyn Beatrice Hall I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. I apply the same rules to people's actions within EVE and feel that if more people did the same EVE would be a better place for it. THERE ARE NO RULES, STOP MAKING YOUR OWN UP AND TRYING TO FORCE OTHERS TO FOLLOW THEM. Lanfear's Bane. _ _ _
xHoodx The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.12.08 12:50:00 - [103] If they don't honor 1v1s that is of course their choice. Flying under the pirate coalition banner their actions will reflect back on the alliance however and once word gets around that pirate coalition members can't be trusted to keep their word it will start affecting your own ransom attempts whether you normally honour them or not. @Lanfear Bad for business is all
Garan Savlar Gallente Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult	Posted - 2006.12.08 12:55:00 - [104] Originally by: Lanfear's Bane THERE ARE NO RULES, STOP MAKING YOUR OWN UP AND TRYING TO FORCE OTHERS TO FOLLOW THEM. But as a "pirate", isn't that what you do? ------------------------------------------------ Faugh-A-Ballaugh!
Puupuu mUfFiN fAcToRy Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 12:57:00 - [105] Uh oh, I sense an evil moderator with a lock heading this way... Anyways, if I may go back to the original topic just a bit, the Muffin Factory as a corporation actually have a strict rule to always honor 1 vs 1, and I would suggest dealing with this issue directly with the Muffin Factory. The various views on piracy by various people in this thread do not necessarily represent the views and rules of the Muffin Factory itself. A happy victim is a returning victim. Love and Peace, Puupuu
Garan Savlar Gallente Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:00:00 - [106] Originally by: Puupuu Uh oh, I sense an evil moderator with a lock heading this way... ------------------------------------------------ Faugh-A-Ballaugh!
Xendie Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:09:00 - [107] Originally by: xHoodx If they don't honor 1v1s that is of course their choice. Flying under the pirate coalition banner their actions will reflect back on the alliance however and once word gets around that pirate coalition members can't be trusted to keep their word it will start affecting your own ransom attempts whether you normally honour them or not. @Lanfear Bad for business is all exactly but that logic seems to have escaped them. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Xendie Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:12:00 - [108] Originally by: tiller errm who are you ? First hug is free btw, further hugs charged at 50m isk. Thankyou you havent a clue do you? i have been around a while longer then you have and done both the anti pirate and pirate profession for a long time. and no the first hug isnt free, its 250m for the first one but you would have to take a desinfective bath first. and i dont take any checks, cash only. Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Cadela Fria Amarr eXin Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:17:00 - [109] Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/12/2006 13:24:17 Edited by: Cadela Fria on 08/12/2006 13:20:00 Having read this thread a few times through now and seeing how Pirate Coalition is carrying themselves on. Notably Tiller and his fellow comrades of crime and his/their interesting view upon piracy, I find myself quite curiously in need of commenting: I'm certain that I must seem a pathetic, humble excuse for a pirate to Pirate Coalition, standing in the mere shadow of Tiller's grand pirate career and his enlightened path on how it works. Which is also the reason why I chose to leave that alliance with my corp. (Plus the fact they had a really shady alliance plan that made no REAL sense, and at one time, everyone in the alliance had to post disapprovement of WTZ, even if they didn't disapprove..it was an alliance mail/order. I chose to post FOR WTZ anyway. Oh well..) I'll just have to live with that. The very idea of piracy, is, as the popular saying goes: Take what you can, give nothing back! Atleast so it is, in my humbled opion. If you are not able to carry your pirating activities with a certain..sense of honour. Call it a codex of honour if you will..simple guidelines, whatever. Signifying that once someone pays your ransom, or you agree to a duel, 1 vs 1, then you carry through with it as such..otherwise, you're no longer a pirate...atleast not a very good/profitable one. As another saying goes however: "A pirates word cannot be trusted". I'm sure this is what most of you is referring to, and it's quite true. How you may ask? Well it's quite simple..the concept of that saying, comes from circumstances surrounding that you have entrusted something of value, to a pirate, and expect him to, how shall we say, "deliver" whatever it is..to whereever it's supposed to go. Like..lending someone money..or a ship...or get someone to transport something for you..whatever, you get the idea. Now, that is not to say that pirates haven't in time, ransomed money from a ship, and not sunk it afterwards..it has. But in those days, usually there were no one left to warn others about it..and there certainly weren't any online forums like this where you can inform a whole galaxy about it neither! I am, however, glad to see that the CEO of the muffin factory, has taken it up to investigate the situation and proclaimed that his organisation, are set to honour ransoms and duels, and I will gladly continue to hold that to them, should I be in such circumstances. However, set apart from that..I severely doubt that anyone who reads this particular thread and the words spoken by Tiller, will ever pay ransom money, nor trust them (Pirate Coalition) with a duel..I know I won't. See the sweet flavour of knowing that others know they can trust your word in matters of ransom or duel, is that you become a profitable pirate..Atleast, a pirate who gets easy profit. I know some of you (possibly Pirate Coalition) will say "Oh you don't like to be challenged" or "You are pirating in easy mode, n00b!" etc etc. I say No, I do like a good challenge, but I just don't see any reason to make piracy harder then it already is..I really don't..if it works, earns me money and it's easy, then why the hell would I want/need to make it more difficult on myself.. Simple is good, and simple is easy.. Ontop of that, I earn myself the reputation that I'm good for my word in terms of duel (Kublai of Short Attention Span can vouch for that), and ransoms - So even though I'm a criminal, I still somehow retain a good name for what I do..I win all around, good for me, and that's how I like it. As I started out saying..I must seem a pathetic excuse for a pirate to Pirate Coalition (and tiller), and can't possibly meassure up to them...However, in all honesty..Thank god for that! I like my idea of piracy, and I like to call myself a pirate in my perspective, and think I'm REASONABLY good at it. But if you choose to not honour ransoms and duels, thats up to you. Thats my 5 cents. -Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
Exogene	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:26:00 - [110] Funny to see that Pirate Coalition is digging its own grave ever deeper with each post
Evil Sulu Sanguine Legion	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:29:00 - [111] Originally by: Dana Barrett Originally by: Marcus TheMartin 2.Never claimed myself "elite" seeing as I am quite possibly the worst gallente cruiser pilot in the game I challenge you to a Thorax duel. Nothing like a refreshing void enema to start the day. P.S. -> This thread delivers. ------------- Public Channel: #Khanidblood
LittleTerror Caldari Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:31:00 - [112] Ah so someone died and lost their ship, oh BooHoo what a crap thread...
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:36:00 - [113] Edited by: tiller on 08/12/2006 13:52:03 Originally by: Exogene Funny to see that Pirate Coalition is digging its own grave ever deeper with each post Not really. What most people in eve fail to realize is that me and a great number of PC are playing the game to one end and one end alone, TO KILL PEOPLE Most of us don't care for politics We don't care for veld We don't build things We don't sit around in station all day saying we love each other Not that the above mean you are a lesser player of course........... We just generally don't care!, and often find it very hard to even get along and work together as a alliance (a alliance of pirates is a hard thing to maintain because of the nature of pirates in general) There is no digging graves here, we provide a free one with every person we turn to a corpse. Obviously the majority of the eve population including many who have posted here hate everything associated with random killing and dare I say grief play, but it's just the way it is. Acknowledge others playing style and learn to live with it rather than shooting them down in flames. edit: As far as my skill as a pirate which is often bought up in threads, I suck!. I'm not a good player... I get easily confused by mult targets, can't command a gang well, have crap skills and make poor ship loadouts. Still have alot of fun though :-) Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Garan Savlar Gallente Ascendant Strategies Inc. The Volition Cult	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:40:00 - [114] Personally, I think that dishonouring 1v1 duels sucks big style. However, I also find it hard to disagree with the argument that you shouldn't be surprised if "pirates" dishonour duels. So I suppose it's quite simple really ... if you don't want to be screwed, don't accept duels. ------------------------------------------------ Faugh-A-Ballaugh!
LittleTerror Caldari Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:55:00 - [115] Well I agree breaking a 1 vs 1 is pretty lame and I don't like these threads, this is the reason I never agree to a 1 vs 1.
xHoodx The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.12.08 13:57:00 - [116] Originally by: tiller Though of course if we do ransom you, we would stick to the agreement, but thats just good business. Originally by: tiller Not really. What most people in eve fail to realize is that me and a great number of PC are playing the game to one end and one end alone, TO KILL PEOPLE I don't see how the second statement can co-exist with the first one unless the first one is just a mute point because you never actually ransom anyone
Abbadon Wrath	Posted - 2006.12.08 14:01:00 - [117] Originally by: tiller We just generally don't care! By the sound of your posts in general, I get the feeling that you and the rest of PC would log in bubbles, use log on traps or anything else to get the upper hand and generally take the fun out of eve. Perhaps you should join goonies?
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 14:03:00 - [118] Edited by: tiller on 08/12/2006 14:07:28 Originally by: LittleTerror Well I agree breaking a 1 vs 1 is pretty lame and I don't like these threads, this is the reason I never agree to a 1 vs 1. Well, I've just been talking with the guys in question from muffin factory and I don't want anything else to do with this thread. Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage
Cadela Fria Amarr eXin Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.08 14:08:00 - [119] Little late for that tiller -Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right
tiller Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.08 14:09:00 - [120] Originally by: Cadela Fria Little late for that tiller Heh guess so... I defend fellow alli members sometimes blindly. But, if they can't just come in here and post there side of the story then why should I bother. Forums 1 Tiller 0 Anyways, back to game... Click me for Pirate Coalition Website of Gankage

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