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Oktain
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Posted - 2006.12.09 23:12:00 -
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Very entertaining thread, I read the whole thing. Some pretty good posts from many involved. Let me just give a quick "my two isks"..
In this day and age I don't see the difference between one accepting a 1v1, and one buying that 250m piece of Trit named Vagabond. Except of course that in one instance the acceptee is depicted as a naive fool...and in the second the scammer is regarded as immoral.
That is all.
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Righteous Fury
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.12.09 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/12/2006 23:21:01
Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN btw Righteous Fury didnt your own corp vote you into the newb corp cause they couldnt stand you? and last i checked every .0 alliance kills haulers.
Well it would have been difficult for them to vote me out of the corp, considering my employment history says 2 years, 10 months, 10 days... and oddly enough I'm still in the same corp? I won't point out the fact that my alt is still CEO, because I wouldn't want to confuse you.
Yes, .0 alliances kill haulers. But cluepon? Your alliance refuses to leave low-sec empire because there is nowhere for you to run when a real gang of pvpers rolls up.
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Dana Barrett
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2006.12.10 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/12/2006 23:21:01
Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN btw Righteous Fury didnt your own corp vote you into the newb corp cause they couldnt stand you? and last i checked every .0 alliance kills haulers.
Well it would have been difficult for them to vote me out of the corp, considering my employment history says 2 years, 10 months, 10 days... and oddly enough I'm still in the same corp? I won't point out the fact that my alt is still CEO, because I wouldn't want to confuse you.
Yes, .0 alliances kill haulers. But cluepon? Your alliance refuses to leave low-sec empire because there is nowhere for you to run when a real gang of pvpers rolls up.
I'm pretty sure your corp has been rolling in low sec lately, ganking so-called "low sec pvp noobs" and their POS's. I don't have any problem with that, except you're trying to play the high-and-mighty +5 card at the same time.
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shogun1
Gallente Mortis Angelus
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Posted - 2006.12.10 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
There are two types of outlaws, pirates and cowards. You and the rest of your bretheren are cowards, and you disgrace the term "pirate" when you use it to describe yourselves.
The point of my argument was simple. You tried to insult a society of players who are already pirates(or claim themselves "to be"). You tried to insult them because they attacked or took advantage of others. Its obvious thats what pirates "do". Or what they are known for.
You "observed" that they did several things cowards or "non-real" pvp'ers do(or, pirates). This was in the first post I replied to. My main beef with you was "pirating is not about taking advantage of people." This is actually the opposite of what pirates do. You should know this(unless the clue train is three years late).
Your post I quoted also reffered to "real pirates" in several fashions. Such as gang molesting ships and running away. Sadly(*laughs), thats what pirates do. How you did not know this, I dont know. "Run to live and fight another day", ring a bell?
The "rules" refrence was a standard set on how you think "real pirates" pvp in your post. Obviously, "real pirates" dont attack haulers or gank ships.(sarcasm.exe)
You cant really insult a pirate for what reputation they are already known for. And your view of what A pirate "should be" is twisted.
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bootmanj
Minmatar Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2006.12.10 04:11:00 -
[185]
I dueled with Marcus TheMartin and he honnored the duel, and stoped at structure.
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LittleTerror
Caldari Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.10 06:50:00 -
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Edited by: LittleTerror on 10/12/2006 06:52:41
Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/12/2006 23:21:01
Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN btw Righteous Fury didnt your own corp vote you into the newb corp cause they couldnt stand you? and last i checked every .0 alliance kills haulers.
Well it would have been difficult for them to vote me out of the corp, considering my employment history says 2 years, 10 months, 10 days... and oddly enough I'm still in the same corp? I won't point out the fact that my alt is still CEO, because I wouldn't want to confuse you.
Yes, .0 alliances kill haulers. But cluepon? Your alliance refuses to leave low-sec empire because there is nowhere for you to run when a real gang of pvpers rolls up.
The real pvp gangs? Like those we killed in the past few days out in 0.0 non empire alliance space what ever you hardcore types call it, oh and like that carrier we destroyed along with a few of his mates out there.
0.0 where the real men are at
/edit so yeah we DO leave empire lowsec but not much since the traffic is not so good there compared to a busy empire lowsec gate |
tiller
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.10 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 10/12/2006 08:59:53
Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/12/2006 23:21:01
Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN btw Righteous Fury didnt your own corp vote you into the newb corp cause they couldnt stand you? and last i checked every .0 alliance kills haulers.
Yes, .0 alliances kill haulers. But cluepon? Your alliance refuses to leave low-sec empire because there is nowhere for you to run when a real gang of pvpers rolls up.
The old 'real pvpers best of the best sir yes sir' bs attitude rears it's ugly head on the forums yet again.
Yep, 0.0 is largely eve in easy mode, no wonder people like righteous think they are so good at it. To summarize -
0.0 - PVP
Lowsec - PVP & PVE all at the same time.
Wonder which is actually tougher to exist in. Well it doesn't matter tbh, fight where you want, just don't put other people down because they play in a different style.
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
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Posted - 2006.12.10 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Master Spoonman
Originally by: tiller Though of course if we do ransom you, we would stick to the agreement, but thats just good business.
Sure, PC doesn't hold their word on 1v1 fights, but they'll be willing to let you go free if you give them a little bit of ISK.
Really, it's kind of hypocritical to lie about one aspect of piracy while profess to speak the truth about another.
Well it has nothing to do with honor, it's good business. Chance of return custom.
Of course, it's your choice, choose not to believe and die, it makes no odds to me.
Yup, anyone who does not understand tiller here needs to go to Pirate 101 class. The idea is that if they pay the ransom, you let them go because you got your money and IF someone ransoms them again, they will be inclined to pay. There is nothing worse then trying to ransom someone who says 'Blow me up because you will anyway.' - its bad buisness for me, and a lot of time for the poor fool to crawl back and fit a new ship. The price is usually very fair (`a 10th of the ship cost and some change depending on the age of the toon) or more (if you hate the corp or whatever). Do you think I make money off your mods? Sometimes yes, most of the time no. Killing your ship is a loss to me and a loss to you.
Now one vs. one has nothing to do with this sort of 'code of conduct' - and even outlaws have rules. Ransome = let live is a good rule to follow, and those who don't are being idiots.
Of course, the 4.3 isk more that I pay to pop your ship is nothing, so if you don't pay, I will make sure you crawl home in the pod (and I will not pop the pod so you can spend that time in quiet contemplation <at least before Kali I would - now I don't care>).
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Famine Aligher'ri
V i L e
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Posted - 2006.12.10 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Real pirates don't run from evenly matched fights. Real pirates don't sit in one system for weeks on end killing anything that comes through. Real pirates don't talk smack while sitting inside a station after running from the gate.
Please someone make it stop.
P.S You all make me sick.
Vile - Recruiting Pirates |
operated
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.12.10 11:56:00 -
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I was suprised finding this on forum .Im ex muffinman and no way muffinman would of dishonoured 1 vs 1 , im sure cran punished (smacked , spanked) the guys involved .
anyhow i lold at this
You tell girls that it isn't the dress making their ass look fat, its their fat ass
lmao
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Cova Jadt
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.10 12:47:00 -
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Yes pc do hounour ransoms
Advisor to the Advisor for the Advisory Board of Advisors on advice
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.10 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Exogene
edit: btw i remember Beer and Kebab from my early days, they used to ask 40 mil ISK from 2 week old noobs for a low sec pass lmao that's what i call l33t piracy
I still do. Basically, you pay more to pass a high quality pirate such as myself.
My base fee for a shuttle is 50mill isk. Of course, something the size of a velator is gonna cost a whole lot more.
I wasn't talking about you I was talking about Beer and Kebab and their affiliates back in those days (tbh i never heard of you before). For those wondering, i was not joking with the 40 mil low sec. pass for 2 week old players although tiller seems to try to undermine the truth with his "high quality pirate humor"...
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.10 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 10/12/2006 09:30:47
Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 09/12/2006 23:21:01
Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN btw Righteous Fury didnt your own corp vote you into the newb corp cause they couldnt stand you? and last i checked every .0 alliance kills haulers.
Yes, .0 alliances kill haulers. But cluepon? Your alliance refuses to leave low-sec empire because there is nowhere for you to run when a real gang of pvpers rolls up.
The old 'real pvpers best of the best sir yes sir' bs attitude rears it's ugly head on the forums yet again.
Yep, 0.0 is largely eve in easy mode, no wonder people like righteous think they are so good at it. To summarize -
0.0 - PVP
Lowsec - PVP & PVE all at the same time.
Wonder which is actually tougher to exist in. Well it doesn't matter tbh, fight where you want, just don't put other people down because they play in a different style.
edit: I'm crap at PVP and freely admit it.
Have you ever been to 0.0? If you have you would know that PVE also exist in 0.0... (do the roll again)
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Frygok
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Posted - 2006.12.10 13:15:00 -
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I was wondering, if you roleplay a mean pirate who kills everyone, wouldn't you have to face the roleplaying consequences of your piracy deeds and stay in 0.0 space at any given time, since the authorities would chase you, and you would have no safe haven in low sec and empire space?
Else I'd say that the roleplay excuse is a very poor excuse, to be put forth only when it's convinient.
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Cpt Sykes
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Posted - 2006.12.10 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: shogun1 Edited by: shogun1 on 08/12/2006 07:39:09 winning > playing fair.
Originally by: Righteous Fury
Pirating isnt about taking advantage of people.
BULL****. Pirating isnt about playing by the rules, either. If you call yourself a pirate and play by rules in any sense(except ransoming. Looking out for #1) your forgetting what being a pirate is all about. Ill be damned if I see an oxymoron as big as the quote above.
Rules? WHAT RULES?! I have never seen a pirate plunder a house then leave thanking the family. ******* retarded, thats what that is. Steal the loot, murder the livestock and take the women! Thats how its played. If you can actually conceive that pirates might have honor, your a bleeding heart carebear.
Pirates didnt have honor, but they have rules, i see you mention they take the women, well... women wasnt allowed on pirate ships, although women did get on the ships by dressing an fighting like men.
Also i looked up the meaning of pirate an this is the summary
1. A robber on the high seas; one who by open violence takes the property of another on the high seas; especially, one who makes it his business to cruise for robbery or plunder; a freebooter on the seas; also, one who steals in a harbor.
2. An armed ship or vessel which sails without a legal commission, for the purpose of plundering other vessels on the high seas.
If you asking about honor pirates wouldnt kill the victim if they surrenderd and give them what they wanted, if they retaliated then they would burn the ship an take them prisoner/kill them. i.e ransoming.. soo dis-honoring a ransom is somewhat a bad act, but a 1vs1, no offense to the OP, but didnt you even think to keep an eye on the local channel for corp members of him or other pirates. imo its your fault your ship got taken.
Basically a pirate is any person comitting a criminal act against public authority.
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.10 18:51:00 -
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here is a something about honor
http://www.muffin-factory.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=71
Check out http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0608/new.jpg |
SLIM
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.12.10 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN here is a something about honor
http://www.muffin-factory.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=71
We TOLD you prior to this that we were resetting standings. The fact that you didn't reset the standings just reinforces the perception that you are clowns. Your guys pay for your stupidity... man this is getting to be a running theme isn't it?
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.10 19:04:00 -
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Edited by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN on 10/12/2006 19:05:16 see there is no need to lie as i was there
Also i evemail any ceo of a change of standings before i change standings and i sure dont do it after ive killed a couple of them
Check out http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0608/new.jpg |
SLIM
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.12.10 19:08:00 -
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Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN Edited by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN on 10/12/2006 19:05:16 see there is no need to lie as i was there
Also i evemail any ceo of a change of standings before i change standings and i sure dont do it after ive killed a couple of them
This was quite before, I believe we even sent you a reason. Namely, you never did **** while in the alliance, and just ****ed off in kourmonen. Hmmm, kind of like what you're doing now.
We gave you ample warning. Don't cry because we see fit to occasionally beat you upside the head with a rather large stick.
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cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN
mUfFiN fAcToRy Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.10 19:19:00 -
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No our corps where friends at the time because we allowed your haulers to pass threw and still hung out with 2-3 of ur members which apologized for your actions.
Thats what made it so bad cause it was out of the blue.
Check out http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/0608/new.jpg |
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SLIM
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.12.10 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN No our corps where friends at the time because we allowed your haulers to pass threw and still hung out with 2-3 of ur members which apologized for your actions.
Thats what made it so bad cause it was out of the blue.
OK, I'm obviously going to have to do this slowly.
We got tired of your crap. Thus, we let you know we were resetting standings. Some of our members chose not to shoot you, that is their perogative. Very nice of them, but by no means required. I really don't care what relationship you have with a couple of our members, that doesn't dictate our policy. Once ample notice had been given, we proceeded to kill some of you. Sad story, get over it.
Honestly, why are you bothering to defend your 'honor' anyways, when you have none left? Just go cry yourself to sleep shooting shuttles in kourmonen. Oh wait, you were chased out of there, weren't you?
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Dr Slice
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.10 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: SLIM
Originally by: cRaNbErRy MuFfInMaN No our corps where friends at the time because we allowed your haulers to pass threw and still hung out with 2-3 of ur members which apologized for your actions.
Thats what made it so bad cause it was out of the blue.
OK, I'm obviously going to have to do this slowly.
We got tired of your crap. Thus, we let you know we were resetting standings. Some of our members chose not to shoot you, that is their perogative. Very nice of them, but by no means required. I really don't care what relationship you have with a couple of our members, that doesn't dictate our policy. Once ample notice had been given, we proceeded to kill some of you. Sad story, get over it.
Honestly, why are you bothering to defend your 'honor' anyways, when you have none left? Just go cry yourself to sleep shooting shuttles in kourmonen. Oh wait, you were chased out of there, weren't you?
Slim,
Just wanted to interject for a moment and remind you this is a game. Try and smile and don't get emotional while posting, its senseless.
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SkottE
SkottE Technologies
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Posted - 2006.12.10 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Shinzon Ray Probably the only way muffins will ever get to kill anyone.
Brave post mr. alt (I don't do 1v1 since the person asking will always be fitted just to kill me lol)
that's why you change your ship? ___ [STCH] Capital Production Shop |
Marcus TheMartin
Gallente MAFIA Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.10 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: SkottE
Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: Shinzon Ray Probably the only way muffins will ever get to kill anyone.
Brave post mr. alt (I don't do 1v1 since the person asking will always be fitted just to kill me lol)
that's why you change your ship?
Maybe I don't train to get into every ship I can asap I prefer to skill like a fine wine perfection with aging Sig Nerf - Cortes
I declare war on ISD!
You don't stand a chance -Karl
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Boliknar
The Shadow Order The Shadow Ascension
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Posted - 2006.12.10 21:40:00 -
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Edited by: Boliknar on 10/12/2006 21:41:16
Originally by: tiller tbh a kill is a kill, honor blah, it's a game, honor has no place in eve imho.
shoot guns, watch the explosions, be happy.
I find this remarkable since members of your very coalition came running whining and crying when a member of my alliance supossedly broke a 1v1 vs one of your pirates. So basically the story is we should honor 1v1 or you will whine and cry and try and get people banned from th forums. But when you break your word and dishonor a 1v1 then we should just all realize your pirates and deal with it. Hmmm that world must be pretty when viewed through Yarrr! colored glasses.
Too bad I- Me the palyer- have too much self respect and at least a small amount of honor, otherwise I too could try and inflate my obviously lacking ego through a game...
Then again maybe i wouldnt.
-B-
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.11 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Boliknar Edited by: Boliknar on 10/12/2006 22:11:23 Edited by: Boliknar on 10/12/2006 21:41:16
Originally by: tiller tbh a kill is a kill, honor blah, it's a game, honor has no place in eve imho.
shoot guns, watch the explosions, be happy.
I find this remarkable since members of your very coalition came running whining and crying when a member of my alliance supossedly broke a 1v1 vs one of your pirates. So basically the story is we should honor 1v1 or you will whine and cry and try and get people banned from th forums. But when you break your word and dishonor a 1v1 then we should just all realize your pirates and deal with it. Hmmm that world must be pretty when viewed through Yarrr! colored glasses.
Then again maybe it isnt -B-
looks like a taste of their own medicine
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SLIM
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2006.12.11 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Slice
Slim,
Just wanted to interject for a moment and remind you this is a game. Try and smile and don't get emotional while posting, its senseless.
Where exactly did I get emotional? I'm just trying to help your executor realize that he is, in fact, useless. If you're going to attempt e-coolness, do it somewhere else.
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El'hith
Gallente The Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2006.12.11 04:04:00 -
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Im a trusting person and have had many 1v1's some i have been jumped on but i normally only 1v1 when we reach a point where neither side is wanting to fight till they have the upper hand,
In those circumstances if one side breaks the terms of the 1v1 then i call in support.
Most people i have 1v1'd run on the same basis they only call in support if they are cheated on. difference is im not stupid enough to 1v1 unless i know i can call in support if im tricked.
At the end the day Piracy is piracy! the pirates i do know or get killed by or kill or whatever are normally quite social they make the game and low sec fun =D
Occasionally you get one or 2 who are less than 'honourable' which is where having mates is handy =)
So in short ill just say if you wanna 1v1 trust the other party to play nice, but if you even suspect them of not been able to do it within your agreements then make sure you have mates in system holding off or next door.
Ill point out this is from som1 who has preyed on and has been preyed on by pirates both in honourable 1v1's and unhonourable ones ;)
last thing to say is that i see these 'x' corp are unhonourable threads everyday... jeez wake up people PIRATES! generally means not to be trusted.... and posting on eve-0 changes very little !
Fly safe all =) ~~~Check my bio in game for what me and my corp can do for you!~~~ |
Cpt Sykes
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Posted - 2006.12.11 04:25:00 -
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or, when you 1vs1 invite the guy into "your" gang, warp to an SS an battle it out there?
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Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.11 17:41:00 -
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bump
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