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Robert De Lyse
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.12 17:58:59 -
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Domino Vyse wrote:Robert De Lyse wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Robert De Lyse wrote:wow 4 pages of hostile responses from griefers
What a surprise. I don't see any griefers. Griefing is something strictly defined as being against the rules by CCP, and is not in evidence here. LOL - CCP wouldn't know what griefing meant if it: Travelled to Iceland Stripped Naked Smack every CCP person in the face Skull fecked them Raped them Pissed on them They still wouldnt have a clue, u do realise that EvE is refered to as GRIEF CENTRAL by every other MMO and 99% of gaming websites hold this game in contempt? Why would we give two hoots about what some 12 year old WoW Sweatlord thinks of EvE?
There you go again, being vile as hell, this is why people hate this game, it is uncalled for, why the hell do u feel the need to insult people? |

admiral root
Red Galaxy
3014
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Posted - 2015.08.12 18:03:44 -
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Robert De Lyse wrote: There you go again, being vile as hell, this is why people hate this game, it is uncalled for, why the hell do u feel the need to insult people?
Says the guy who made comments about all kinds of RL assault on CCP staff. 
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1662
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Posted - 2015.08.12 18:07:21 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Tarojan wrote: The current state of play is that the high sec pvp community has such an apparantly high bar of entry , which the odds stacked so high against the pvers, that those who want a mixed game of pve/pvp are better served dodging war decs and just going to low sec for fun and pew pew. Wouldn't it be so much better if we got rid of concord, war decs and armed pve ships to not be flying coffins if pvped? This is a pvp game right? so why not make ALL ships pvp wether for fight or for flight?
This happened when they changed wars to have a 2500% higher base cost and added the ally system that unilaterally benefits the defender. The higher pay barrier caused low skill or low income aggressors to join larger groups to spread the costs around. The ally system made being the aggressor so much more potentially dangerous that it became virtual suicide for anyone but a dedicated pvp group to declare war at all. It's a situation wrought out of a misguided attempt to nerf highsec aggression. Instead of achieving it's actual goal it just put highsec PVP groups in a position where they have an absolute monopoly on combat in highsec. I don't expect it to be fixed, ever. I expect any future changes to exclusively involve more nerfs of a similar nature and for the situation to just become more extreme. Also your best option if you're at war with BAW is to try and kill N1ghtw1ng, he's always suspect flagged, often not on comms and has no links or reps, he's also someone's son and gets yelled at irl if he dies. Alternatively put up a POCO somewhere and Shadowgirl9 will attempt to reinforce it solo in a faction battelship in the EU timezone while the rest of the alliance is sleeping. I also flyy Barghest around unscouted pretty often. There's lots of reasonable options of things to do other than running and hiding for people who are inclined to actually try. But trying is hard and calling a situation impossible and giving up is easy. And they stop doing all these things when they DEC us grr. No but seriously unless in a huge t3 and logo blob that shames most nullsec alliances there are always options to counter. Sometimes a huge blob of such ships is insurmountable by a small, low sp and/or poor group. If you are indeed a mixed group and willing to fight see if your aggressors will have some more fair fights. If you pissed them off or its a contract you made your bed already 
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
1339
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Posted - 2015.08.12 18:10:24 -
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Robert De Lyse wrote:
LOL - CCP wouldn't know what griefing meant if it:
Travelled to Iceland Stripped Naked Smack every CCP person in the face Skull fecked them Raped them Pissed on them
They still wouldnt have a clue, u do realise that EvE is refered to as GRIEF CENTRAL by every other MMO and 99% of gaming websites hold this game in contempt?
Seems like you need to calm down, and then let your subscription expire.
Eve is clearly not the game for you. I think I can speak for many of us here if I say your crudely-expressed bitterness and anger will not be missed. |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24637
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Posted - 2015.08.12 18:11:12 -
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Robert De Lyse wrote:LOL - CCP wouldn't know what griefing meant if it:
Travelled to Iceland Stripped Naked Smack every CCP person in the face Skull fecked them Raped them Pissed on them
They still wouldnt have a clue, u do realise that EvE is refered to as GRIEF CENTRAL by every other MMO and 99% of gaming websites hold this game in contempt? Citation needed, most gaming websites seem to love the headlines that Eve generates, and the traffic that comes with them.
Quote:There you go again, being vile as hell, Pot, meet kettle.
Quote:this is why people hate this game, it is uncalled for, why the hell do u feel the need to insult people? More to the point, why do you feel the need to insult people and then get all defensive when they take umbrage to it?
Can't stand the heat? GTFO out of the kitchen.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1662
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Posted - 2015.08.12 18:11:20 -
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admiral root wrote:Robert De Lyse wrote: There you go again, being vile as hell, this is why people hate this game, it is uncalled for, why the hell do u feel the need to insult people?
Says the guy who made comments about all kinds of RL assault on CCP staff.  I regret I was crafting a post while this comment was made and you beat me too this.
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
3015
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Posted - 2015.08.12 18:15:34 -
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I have a feeling the cavalry has arrived in this thread. Go go gadget ISD!
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2042
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Posted - 2015.08.12 18:25:55 -
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Robert De Lyse wrote:wow 4 pages of hostile responses from griefers
What a surprise. Here's the thing about "griefing" in EvE: CCP gets to define what constitutes "griefing", not you, not me, and not any of us here on the forum. What we denizens of C&P do in-game (i.e. wardec, suicide gank, can flip, mission flip, bump, hump, and generally annoy) is, for the most part, 100% legal under CCP's definition of "griefing". So you can complain about wardec mechanics all you like, but you have no standing to call us "griefers" for playing by the rules that CCP has laid out for us.
As the proprietor of a small hisec PvP corp, I would love nothing more than to see wardec prices go up based on aggressor membership numbers. Fewer large corps wardeccing smaller corps means less competition for me to wardec small corps. 
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3014
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Posted - 2015.08.12 18:55:29 -
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Robert De Lys3 wrote: Sorry but that's bull, you NEVER fly un scouted and have been known to order alliance members to step away so u can get solo kills.
I'm trying to imagine myself as some insane authority figure who keeps his non-director peons on a tight leash.
Dispike: Vimsy, please may we get on this badger kill? Rinth Naskingar: please, we let you have the last ten kills to yourself. Vimsy Vortis: Silence, serfs you aren't worthy, if you want kills go alpha rookie ships in jita.
This fiction is hilarious to me, is it based on something you've heard or is it entirely your own fabrication? |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24640
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Posted - 2015.08.12 19:00:33 -
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Is this you OP? The posting style, glut of profanity and excessive butthurt about "griefing" seem very familiar.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
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ISD FlowingSpice
ISD STAR
19
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Posted - 2015.08.12 19:04:27 -
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Quote:3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
6235
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Posted - 2015.08.12 20:26:03 -
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Unlocked the thread. Please continue enjoying your content, y'all.
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Domino Vyse
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
291
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Posted - 2015.08.12 20:32:14 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Unlocked the thread. Please continue enjoying your content, y'all.
aww you da best! |

Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3017
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Posted - 2015.08.12 21:20:58 -
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Robert De Lyse wrote:have been known to order alliance members to step away so u can get solo kills.
Wait, have you ever been in the alliance End of Life? Because that's the only plausible explanation for this comment.
Also whatever, it's now an alliance meme that I'm some kind of whip cracking slave driver. I'm running with it. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1679
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Posted - 2015.08.13 03:17:07 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Unlocked the thread. Please continue enjoying your content, y'all. 2 thread unlocks in the same year... truly we are living in the end times
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admiral root
Red Galaxy
3019
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Posted - 2015.08.13 03:25:02 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Unlocked the thread. Please continue enjoying your content, y'all. 2 thread unlocks in the same year... truly we are living in the end times
Calm down, Marmite. 
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1681
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Posted - 2015.08.13 03:32:58 -
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admiral root wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Unlocked the thread. Please continue enjoying your content, y'all. 2 thread unlocks in the same year... truly we are living in the end times Calm down, Marmite.  Its the end of days man. Comets and asteroids falling from the wormholes. Great space quakes turning off gates. Bears and gankers living together in peace.
The end is nigh
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2049
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Posted - 2015.08.13 03:35:33 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:admiral root wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Unlocked the thread. Please continue enjoying your content, y'all. 2 thread unlocks in the same year... truly we are living in the end times Calm down, Marmite.  Its the end of days man. Comets and asteroids falling from the wormholes. Great space quakes turning off gates. Bears and gankers living together in peace. The end is nigh Mass hysteria!
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Mag's
the united
20063
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Posted - 2015.08.13 05:33:43 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:admiral root wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Unlocked the thread. Please continue enjoying your content, y'all. 2 thread unlocks in the same year... truly we are living in the end times Calm down, Marmite.  Its the end of days man. Comets and asteroids falling from the wormholes. Great space quakes turning off gates. Bears and gankers living together in peace. The end is nigh Mass hysteria! It all sounds rather psychotic tbh. I'm in.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1690
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Posted - 2015.08.13 06:28:58 -
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@OP PS see how I got trolled here and ran with it
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1368
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Posted - 2015.08.13 07:10:47 -
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this thread got unlocked wtf is happening here? isd ordered some popcorn in 
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Noragen Neirfallas
Dedicated and Dangerous The Marmite Collective
1690
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Posted - 2015.08.13 07:24:17 -
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Lan Wang wrote:this thread got unlocked wtf is happening here? isd ordered some popcorn in  We are of the opinion that ISD have shares in popcorn manufacturers
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
1038
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Posted - 2015.08.13 07:26:07 -
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Ah, remember that (too short) time when CCP screwed up wardec mechanics and half of New Eden was caught in in one massive war? Good times, but sadly it did not last....
Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
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Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
6861
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Posted - 2015.08.13 09:46:13 -
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Robert De Lyse wrote:It's dead simple really
You whine and complain when empire war decs are discussed as possible nerfs, costs to rise etc and you come up with this:
"Why should we be forced to PvP in low/null/wh's when we want to PvP in empire, we should be able to play EvE how we like"
Okay sure, sandbox and all that, BUT:
What gives you the RIGHT to force the empire population of EvE to PvP? To FORCE them to play how you want to play? To FORCE them to change there mission/industrial/exploration play styles to PVP against you?
What gives you the RIGHT to FORCE PLAYERS TO PLAY THE GAME how you want to? You don't want to be FORCED into low/null/wh's.
Stop being hypocrites.
Griefers - Cowards who fly speed fit ships such as 10mn ab fit sivpuls with medium boosts, or gank certain systems with spys in each gate within a 1j radius, we had 7 war decs and we took a 30 man fleet, what did they all do? They ran to a station and hid. Smacked in local, in all there fancy t3's, they ran from a 30 man frig/dessy gang.
Code - buncha noobs ganking barges and nearly causing a market crash, well done, well done
"Griefers slam wow" - K sure, u don't play it for one reason, u cant go around destroying everyones stuff
Buncha cowards, all of you.
EVE is a PVP game, all of it - high, low, nul, wh, literally all of it. What that means is PVP is not griefing, it's part of the game. This isn't every other MMO on the market, this is EVE Online - griefing elsewhere ain't griefing here. Capiche?
And low sec is part of empire space too, just so you know.
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Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3023
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Posted - 2015.08.13 13:00:21 -
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Nerath Naaris wrote:Ah, remember that (too short) time when CCP screwed up wardec mechanics and half of New Eden was caught in in one massive war? Good times, but sadly it did not last.... The mechanics had actually been screwed up for an extremely long time. What triggered that whole fiasco was CCP ruling that joining an alliance and then leaving it again to transfer a war was no longer considered an exploit. When that happened Zerg Overmind decided he was going to break it to demonstrate what a bad decision CCP had made in doing that.
It was pretty hilarious and one of the proofs of CCP having no idea how either mechanics or rules policies affect highsec pvp. |

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
6249
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Posted - 2015.08.13 14:06:56 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Lan Wang wrote:this thread got unlocked wtf is happening here? isd ordered some popcorn in  We are of the opinion that ISD have shares in popcorn manufacturers That or I like content.
Mmmm, hot buttered content.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2058
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Posted - 2015.08.13 14:09:50 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Lan Wang wrote:this thread got unlocked wtf is happening here? isd ordered some popcorn in  We are of the opinion that ISD have shares in popcorn manufacturers That or I like content. Mmmm, hot buttered content. This may be my single most favorite ISD post ever.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1375
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Posted - 2015.08.13 14:19:19 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Lan Wang wrote:this thread got unlocked wtf is happening here? isd ordered some popcorn in  We are of the opinion that ISD have shares in popcorn manufacturers That or I like content. Mmmm, hot buttered content. This may be my single most favorite ISD post ever.
plot twist: now the thread is unlocked nobody knows what to say #endofthread
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Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
564
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Posted - 2015.08.13 14:22:32 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Lan Wang wrote:this thread got unlocked wtf is happening here? isd ordered some popcorn in  We are of the opinion that ISD have shares in popcorn manufacturers That or I like content. Mmmm, hot buttered content.
Much better than hot butt content, that's for sure. |

Noragen Neirfallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
1696
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Posted - 2015.08.13 15:12:01 -
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ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Lan Wang wrote:this thread got unlocked wtf is happening here? isd ordered some popcorn in  We are of the opinion that ISD have shares in popcorn manufacturers That or I like content. Mmmm, hot buttered content. All right sir you just earnt your place back in my signature (and heart).
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