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Nelly Ooze
Jump Drive Appreciation Society Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.08.15 23:32:51 -
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Can I bring an Archon to our next match?
I mean, rules are meant to be broken, right? |
Aethus148
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.08.15 23:36:15 -
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#justiceforGNCRI |
Summer VonSturm
Senex Legio The OSS
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Posted - 2015.08.15 23:38:25 -
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AgentHawk wrote:IF BOTH PARTIES ARE FINE WITH THE OUTCOME THEN WHAT CAN WE DO?
I WAS NOT AWARE BOTH PARTIES DID NOT GIVE A **** ABOUT THE 50km DIFFERENCE
IN THE FUTURE, CCP you should let us KNOW that the parties are OK with this CLEARLY controversial ruling
to avoid posts like mine, and everyone elses, and all the reddit posts and my TEST alliance jabber pings
Whether or not the teams are happy about it, shouldn't be relevant. The rules are there for all to adhere to. If the next couple of fights, both teams are happy to break the points limit, or fitting restrictions, is that ok? Of course not. |
Tallardar
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
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Posted - 2015.08.15 23:44:19 -
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So PL are allowed to field their whole titan and super fleet right? I mean, the rules don't seem to be enforced so what's going to happen if the team members are in those ships?
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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2015.08.15 23:47:23 -
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Henry Plantgenet wrote:Wouldn't it be prudent to redo the match out of fairness? Indeed.
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Tiberian Deci
Unholy Knights of Cthulhu Test Alliance Please Ignore
142
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Posted - 2015.08.15 23:56:24 -
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CCP Logibro wrote: After review and discussion by the tournament team, we have decided to let the result of the match stand. We now have plans in place to improve the check for this in the tournament referee tools by the second weekend of play at latest.
Just dropping in to say I think this is a terrible stand to take. It's double elimination, give the cheating team a loss, give the losing team a win, and the team that now has a loss continues through their bracket. |
Mostlyharmlesss
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.15 23:59:28 -
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First round of matches, two teams breaking the rules and neither getting punished. This is starting out well.
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Sahriah BloodStone
Hunter Killers. Forsaken Asylum
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:00:48 -
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I think it would be fair to replay the match to be honest. Looks like most people agree.
Sahriah Bloodstone
Praetor, Forsaken Asylum
"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "
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Sub Starasque
Kite Co. Space Trucking Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:02:59 -
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So explain to me why there should even be rules in the first place if you have no intention of upholding them? |
Valc
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:07:04 -
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interesting looking back on the punishment of hydra and outbreak and they didnt even break anyrules . very curious, in my eyes this was an easy decision, you cheat you lose thats how every sport match up goes. this isnt a small violation at all. everyone knows range is a game changer in this game |
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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings The WeHurt Initiative
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:18:42 -
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This isn't surprising.
Neither that Together We Solo ignored the rules, nor that CCP's chosen referee was paying no attention, and certainly not that CCP themselves choose to throw the rules out for this 'one time' occurrence.
I'm curious to see what other rules get broken during the AT this year, and which ones CCP will decide require no action when they are. Perhaps this is an indicator that these rules will be removed from next year's contest, since they are obviously irrelevant.
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General Vachot
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:23:51 -
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Given we play one of these two teams next match I'd like to know sooner rather than later if CCP is going to stick with this call or not as it changes our approach and I am sure the approach by the other two teams to the next match around meta etc. |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:30:50 -
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So we don't have to follow the rules anymore CCP?
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Inglor Telemnar
Interstellar Luxury Country Club GONE MAD.
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Posted - 2015.08.16 00:55:55 -
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BAD CALL CCP, VERY BAD CALL. |
Danmal
Proioxis Assault Force Exodus.
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Posted - 2015.08.16 01:21:57 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Hey Guys
In match 14 between Together We Solo and Gone Critical, the Together We Solo team warped onto the field at 100km. The rules state that teams must warp in at a maximum of 50km.
In this case, the breach in the rules was not picked up by the referee, and the match played out with the Together We Solo team winning the match.
After review and discussion by the tournament team, we have decided to let the result of the match stand. We now have plans in place to improve the check for this in the tournament referee tools by the second weekend of play at latest.
This is not just unfortunate. I would go as far as to say that this has got to be a joke. The reason is that even after "review and discussion" the tournament team does not have a plausible counterfactual how the game would have unfolded had they not made the mistake. Perhaps Gone Critical would have flown altogether differently had they been closer to begin with. As a pilot in the AT, I hope this decision gets reversed. |
Helo Dhals
I Pay Hookers 2 Leave Allibaitors
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Posted - 2015.08.16 01:26:42 -
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A rule without enforcement is just a request. This is a joke. |
Daide Vondrichnov
SnaiLs aNd FroGs Drama Sutra
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Posted - 2015.08.16 01:36:12 -
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Can i bring my bastion CCP ? |
Jureka
Sonnenlegion Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2015.08.16 01:55:21 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:You need to replay matches like this and build some time into the schedule to allow for it. ^ this |
Awkward Pi Duolus
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
142
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Posted - 2015.08.16 02:07:43 -
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Is the real CCP still on holiday? |
Dradis Aulmais
RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic
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Posted - 2015.08.16 02:23:19 -
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So the refs also work for Fifa
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TimNeilson
The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple
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Posted - 2015.08.16 02:25:03 -
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This is a bad decision and you should feel bad about it. |
HeXxploiT
Big Diggers Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2015.08.16 02:52:41 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Hey Guys
In match 14 between Together We Solo and Gone Critical, the Together We Solo team warped onto the field at 100km. The rules state that teams must warp in at a maximum of 50km.
In this case, the breach in the rules was not picked up by the referee, and the match played out with the Together We Solo team winning the match.
After review and discussion by the tournament team, we have decided to let the result of the match stand. We now have plans in place to improve the check for this in the tournament referee tools by the second weekend of play at latest.
I suspect that there is more to this than meets the eye and you guys just aren't ready to discuss it yet publicly for whatever reason. The reason I suspect this is because on the surface it looks like such an obviously poor decision that I can't believe a call this bad would be made by CCP.
Will wait and see if there is more... |
Topher Basquette Dusch-shur
Montana Freedom Fighters
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Posted - 2015.08.16 03:05:43 -
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I was on the fence about continuing my sub, so thanks. Now I have more important info about CCP. |
Gabriel Esq
Rolling Static Gone Critical
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Posted - 2015.08.16 03:30:28 -
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****, I already made plans for tomorrow |
Lazarus Telraven
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.16 04:50:01 -
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Would really like to see this become a rematch as the first match on Sunday. Push all of the other matches back 15 minutes and let this play out.
Wont take any extra time and some matches are typically shorter then others the time can be made up later in the day. As a commentator on Alliance Tournament 10 I know the stress you guys are under to keep things running smoothly while trying to kitten herd the teams.
Look forward to seeing the matches tomorrow. I will be commentating them on Stream with Elise Randolph was going to do it today but I kinda overslept xD. |
Vendrin
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2015.08.16 04:53:37 -
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Really dissapointing CCP. Wrong call and shortsighted |
Garnt TheBrobarian
Hole Violence Whole Squid
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Posted - 2015.08.16 05:37:18 -
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I was under the impression that CCP was trying to get serious about e-sports. Have you given up on that? This ruling seems to suggest so. |
vikari
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2015.08.16 05:46:57 -
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Any other real world or gaming tournament would of had a different ruling. Rules are put in writing before any matches.... There is no excuse for not following the rules, and the team should of been reprimanded for this. Regardless of who wins the tournament, at this point we should question every future result, as the rightful teams that deserve to be there will not. My opinion is that the tournament is illegitimate. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.08.16 05:48:54 -
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I'll also join the core of people who think this is the wrong decision.
Are we all able to warp in at 100km now, or break the rules some other way as long as it isn't picked up? Can we use drugs for example and maybe get away with it?
To be fair on the tournament and Gone Critical, I think this decision should be reversed.
Either Together We Solo are declared the losers of the match for a rules breach, which in high probability did affect the outcome, or as with some other past rules breaches, they are disqualified from the tournament.
As it currently stands:
Together We Solo: Cheated, 1 win, one set of SKINs, in the winners bracket currently and still require 2 losses before elimination.
Gone Critical: Played by the rules, 1 loss, no SKINs despite playing by the rules against a cheating opponent, 1 loss away from elimination.
That sort of stinks.
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Lincoln Fleet
Rokafeller Umbrella Corporation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.16 05:51:01 -
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Well CCP has confirmed that no rules will be enforced in this tournament. Teams should feel free to ignore any of the tournament's "officially posted suggestions" since CCP no longer has any right to stop or punish players for doing so, except for the poisonous "it's our game" trump card.
Want to bring 10 battleships? Go right on ahead. Hell, why not make them 10 of the same battleship? Even better, bling them out and bring an expensive clone. Three logi? Sounds great! CCP has willingly disregarded CLEAR and DIRECT violations of the tournament rules which they themselves created. Attempting to enforce them now immediately invalidates any conclusion of the tournament, so it's open season!!!
Good hunting, ladies and gents. May the best cheaters... not really win... gloat? |
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