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Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 17:53:00 - [91] Originally by: Marogian Originally by: Moghydin Oh, one of BoB leaders again with another monumental post, meant to take place in history But actually, the bottom line is - BoB used cheap tactics, possibly involving account hijacking or account sharing, which are both bannable offenses. I don't hold my breath that some action will be taken by CCP though. So, what happened? BoB has sticked that lone POS in AZN and saw that it's going nowhere? That they won't have the stamina and resources to fight properly over every single outpost we have? Actually the fact that they resolved to lowest tricks and stunts possible says a lot. I'm sure, that most ASCN pilots share my opinion. And my opinion is that this little dirty trick just strengthened the resolve of ASCN pilots to fight you untill the very end of this war, be it 1 more month or 1 more year, with even more resolve and ferocity. We see now, that we are here against a type of opponent who will quietly punch you in the face on a pitch if the ref is not looking their way, and then will step back with that stupid smiley face, saying: "Me? I did nothing...". ISK loss is temporary, loss of respect is permanent. Completely Signed. I think BoB have lost more in their reputation than they gained in one system today. I won't be happy until they have no stations left. You're no better than RA, AAA, Burn Eden or any of the other alliances that have a reputation for metagaming/lame gamestyles. Welcome to the lowest of the low. we dont want your respect. To quote molle "we want to dance on your corpses"
RogueWing Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 17:55:00 - [92] Originally by: Crucifier WTF are you talking about, RA, us and burn eden all have way better rep then bob QFT. Only in ASCN would someone consider the solution to being short an office to be "Drop another Outpost"
Acwron Minmatar Cataclysm Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.10 17:56:00 - [93] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Acwron Edited by: Acwron on 10/12/2006 15:59:06 All rationalizing of spys via the use of alts is an insult to any semi intelligent person who still thinks EVE is a game. Assuming we have meta-gamed to achieve this, sure. Have we? You don't know, so you're just grasping and, quite complimentary, you're assuming we've done the worst. Considering you did it the past (and admitted) and used the same reasoning here and back then, makes your argument mood. What do you think when you post stuff we both know that it is false? I take that as an insult.
XoPhyte Vanguard Frontiers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 17:56:00 - [94] All Bob has proven is that they are not as "l33t" as they think they are, and they must resort to corp theft and spys to try to win this war. Your attempt at trying to say "you took OOY" is ridiculous tbh. You used corp theft to advance your cause just like some other lame people in this game, simply because you had been failing to do so on the battlefield in Feythabolis. You didn't take the system by using dreads and destroying our POS's, or beating us on the battlefield. You used corp theft. So, Bob = Goons now. How uber you must all feel. Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Most people in eve would rather win than have a good fight
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 17:58:00 - [95] Originally by: Moghydin We see now, that we are here against a type of opponent who will quietly punch you in the face on a pitch if the ref is not looking their way, and then will step back with that stupid smiley face, saying: "Me? I did nothing...". LOL Can you please show me, in the rules of soccer for example, where it say it is legal to punch a fellow player when the referee has turned his back? You can't. Again ASCN are singularly missing the point by a fair old light year. It isn't cheating, not by the rules CCP have put in place. You can claim that your own moral code should trump that of "the game", but that is all you can do. We've broken no in-game rules, get over it. Originally by: CRYVOK Others, like BoB, they play the game in a meaningless fasition, concerned with nothing but winning. We care about our friends.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:00:00 - [96] Originally by: Acwron What do you think when you post stuff we both know that it is false? I take that as an insult. Take it how you wish, Acwron, I'm not going to bother telling you what we did or how we did it, because if it doesn't match with what you already think you'll claim it to be a lie. Originally by: CRYVOK Others, like BoB, they play the game in a meaningless fasition, concerned with nothing but winning. We care about our friends.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:00:00 - [97] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 10/12/2006 18:01:50 Originally by: Jack Malus This empire noob is rooting for ASCN now. Hope you guys can keep it together. /me runs for the hills. Actually, that's cool. They can join ASCN then when ASCN arrives in empire after this war. It's awfully hard to understand the concept of what is cheating and what not isn't it ? I mean, for people with the mental capabilities of the ASCN posters here at least. Of course, coming up with delusional 'explanations' for failures you can't comprehend or account for has been an EDF specialty. As such we could hardly expect a different reaction when doing this to an EDF station could we ? Not that the average ASCN forum user seems any better tbh. Quite funny how your forum frothing compares to the opinions expressed away from these forums by your very corpmates. Old blog
R0ot InNova Tech Inc Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:01:00 - [98] Originally by: Keldon Pax Edited by: Keldon Pax on 10/12/2006 13:00:23 This game is officailly Dead...no point to build to fight. Somebody offlined all the POSs, and clr out the hangers..I mean ..bloody hell what station is next for this kind of BS. All done by 1 person Be stuff if I am paying 15 bucks a month for that kind of crap. kELDON you let one person have access to all your pos's in a system? isn't that a little risky ___________________________________________________________________
Herculite Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:03:00 - [99] I hear the Trojans have a petition open against the Greeks about Troy. Its lame but don't open recruit durring a war though I wouldn't be surprised if its an active director with a carrier claiming to be magically hacked.
Acwron Minmatar Cataclysm Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:03:00 - [100] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Acwron What do you think when you post stuff we both know that it is false? I take that as an insult. Take it how you wish, Acwron, I'm not going to bother telling you what we did or how we did it, because if it doesn't match with what you already think you'll claim it to be a lie. yeah right... whatever
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:03:00 - [101] I see an easy way to deal with the Grimpaks chat log, but I don't see anyone from BOB taking it on, looks strange to me. [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
Aberash eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:03:00 - [102] Edited by: Aberash on 10/12/2006 18:05:09 i actually thought you had more honour than this and wanted to fight and win this war not cheat and exploit your way to victory I have to say you are the lamest,saddest and most pathetic entity in eve in my eyes and to many. You call your self uber and the best PvP alliance in the game, if its your objective to make people hate the game and to be hated by them all then your on the right track
Dhan Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:04:00 - [103] Lame once again. I wonder why "via corp theft" wasn't included in the original thread. I guess the effect is meant to be that of "We totally annihilated them and took their station" instead of what seems to be "We robbed their hangars, offlined their poses and then managed to destroy them". BoB has shown great success with some ops, but this is just shameful.
Farham Gallente AWE Corporation Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:05:00 - [104] I was going to post but Xophyte said exactly what I, and many others I've spoken with this morning are feeling. I am far more shocked that BOB had to rely on a system being handed to them vs. taking a Feyth system. You guys are good, but the past few weeks in Feyth has done quite a bit to remove the Mystique you guys work in. The 00YZ-G event just solidifies that idea. I guess the POS wars truly have started.
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:06:00 - [105] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti I see an easy way to deal with the Grimpaks chat log, but I don't see anyone from BOB taking it on, looks strange to me. they scared of my voices! THEY EAT BRAINCELLS AND TALK WITH THE ESPERANTO TALKING ELEPHANT! EEK! ------- Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
Nira Li Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:07:00 - [106] hehe now we see all the true carebears crawl out and we also see how it goes when you keep on lying to your members. John, time to die. You Will Cry My Name
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:08:00 - [107] Originally by: Eskalin come out and fight ascn, prove your worthy of living in 0.0 we are not the ones turning off posses now are we. We fight you turn off posses Don't be a great man just be a man
Alasse Cuthalion TAOSP Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:08:00 - [108] Originally by: "Grimpak" Stuff So some guy convo's you, tells you his account was "stolen" and lots of BoB members keep convo'ing him, right, whatever. BoB does not use exploits, we do not "bend" game mechanics (like your members logging to escape the bubbles this morning in 0oy), we play within the means and if you think otherwise knock yourselves out and petition us and see what happens. Now quit whining and bring it.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:09:00 - [109] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti I see an easy way to deal with the Grimpaks chat log, but I don't see anyone from BOB taking it on, looks strange to me. That'd probably be because i've got no idea what he's on about, and being uninvolved I'm not going to comment. It's a fairly straightforward chatlog where some random ex-ts guy tells some ascn guys about his account sharing problems. The only tie with us seems to be all the bob guys in the addy book (very surprising) and the mailbox with bob people in it (I've probably got about a dozen ascn people sitting in my mailbox atm, i wouldn't know about their problems with account sharing because they don't tend to tell me and I don't tend to ask). So in short: I really don't care much. If they suspect foul play, petition away. Of course, if CCP then take no action that measn we're gm's and devs, not that there was no foul play Old blog
Angelus X Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:09:00 - [110] Edited by: Angelus X on 10/12/2006 18:13:40 Originally by: Christopher Multsanti I see an easy way to deal with the Grimpaks chat log, but I don't see anyone from BOB taking it on, looks strange to me. That's because unlike all these ASCN pilots crying their eyes out in this thread, the vast majority of us BoB pilots are most likely either watching eve tv at the moment, pvping in game around 0OYZ-, or not aware that the forums are now working again (consdiering they've been down for quite awhile about an hour ago). Personally, I find it very difficult to believe someone had their username AND password "guessed" by a corp mate, and what exactly that chat log proves absolutely anything? But meh, ASCN do have a very strange idea of how accusations and proof work togethor. Edit- I've said this before and I'll say it again, compared to what ASCN was in the days shortly after Xetic and in the fights against the Coalition, and the campaigns up north and in Omist, you're become an absolute disgrace. I, like many other ex-ASCN pilots are disgusted at the whinging, lack of leadership, lack of willingness to band togethor and fight, and the general state ASCN is now in. The sooner you splinter and crawl back to empire the better tbh. -----
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:10:00 - [111] Originally by: Crucifier WTF are you talking about, RA, us and burn eden all have way better rep then bob QFT Don't be a great man just be a man
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:12:00 - [112] Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion Originally by: "Grimpak" Stuff So some guy convo's you, tells you his account was "stolen" and lots of BoB members keep convo'ing him, right, whatever. BoB does not use exploits, we do not "bend" game mechanics (like your members logging to escape the bubbles this morning in 0oy), we play within the means and if you think otherwise knock yourselves out and petition us and see what happens. Now quit whining and bring it. never said it was on purpose did I? but you guys saying here that "WE BEAT YOU FAIRLY! OMG DIE WE HATE YOU BLABLABLA!" when you have the help of metagaming tactics, even if it was not on purpose, takes away that "fair" part. ------- Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:14:00 - [113] wtf multi quoted by BOB madness1111 Ok guys you dealt with it, see it wasn't hard. [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
Aberash eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:14:00 - [114] as everyone seems to have very different views as to what happens why doesnt a BoB member explain then exactly how The POS' in 0OY were miraculously offlined and a bob fleet appeared to take them. please fill me in on the TRUTH
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:14:00 - [115] Please explain Grim, because it eludes me, what's teh connect between the guy in your chatlog talking to a DS1 ceo adn the pos's taken offline in an EDF system ? Or am I mistaken and did that particular character play a role in this ? Old blog
Coasterbrian Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:14:00 - [116] Ugh. Too much talk. See you in 0OYZ. ---------- I say what I mean, but I don't always mean what I say.
SirMolle Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:16:00 - [117] Originally by: Aberash as everyone seems to have very different views as to what happens why doesnt a BoB member explain then exactly how The POS' in 0OY were miraculously offlined and a bob fleet appeared to take them. please fill me in on the TRUTH We dont need to explain anything. For all you know, it could have been divine intervention. Facts are; ASCN lost 0OY outpost in 3 hours.
Aberash eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:18:00 - [118] Originally by: SirMolle Originally by: Aberash as everyone seems to have very different views as to what happens why doesnt a BoB member explain then exactly how The POS' in 0OY were miraculously offlined and a bob fleet appeared to take them. please fill me in on the TRUTH We dont need to explain anything. For all you know, it could have been divine intervention. Facts are; ASCN lost 0OY outpost in 3 hours. You could have saved yourself the time of typing that and just said "We used spies" . Cheers for clearing that up.
killerco Gallente Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:21:00 - [119] Originally by: SirMolle it could have been divine intervention. Facts are; ASCN lost 0OY outpost in 3 hours. Facts are we did not loose it in 3 hours, you had your spies offline the posses in 3 hours. After that even 1 day old noobs could capture the station(in a matter of speaking) Don't be a great man just be a man
Grimpak Gallente Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.10 18:21:00 - [120] Originally by: Rod Blaine Please explain Grim, because it eludes me, what's the connect between the guy in your chatlog talking to a DS1 ceo and the pos's taken offline in an EDF system ? Or am I mistaken and did that particular character play a role in this ? role in the pos/station taking? none fact that it was a jacked account that was spying ASCN for BoB, who might be a BoB member or not, wich implies the use of metagaming tactics by BoB, intentional or not? yes it is. oh and I took the liberty to correct your grammar. ------- Originally by: Tiuwaz for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons

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