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N Solarz Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:18:00 - [31] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 13/12/2006 01:13:45 Originally by: DHB FooFighter And so ISS dig their own grave. Let me step aside while you fall facefirst into the abyss of your own arrogance. LOL Comedy Gold, keep it up IAC. Facts are as follows: * You started the war * You refuse to listen to ISS who asked for war to be avoided * You ignore Counts public post asking for freindly relations * ISS CHANGED THEIR CHARTER IN RESPONSE TO YOUR FEEDBACK * You still went to war with them * You make a big show of it on the forums * You brag more on the forums about your kills And now, in a pure comedy sketch, you claim ISS are the aggressor! Honestly, IAC. Get a grip. about your beloved charter that you hold so dearly: http://www.eve-iss.com/publicsite/charter.asp - ISS pilots are forbidden to enter claimed space unless ISS have signed an agreement with the claiming alliance. Alliance claimed space is defined by the most recent official political map on Eve-Online: http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg. Travelling in forbidden space is a bannable offense. apparently it doesnt apply? apparently setting up 3 POS'es in claimed space isnt entering? and im sure someone will spin this some way or the other.
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:18:00 - [32] Edited by: Montaire on 13/12/2006 01:21:18 Edited by: Montaire on 13/12/2006 01:19:39 Originally by: n sx Lots of stuff here n sx -- By saying "Maybe" you basicly made them act as if you were. I will point out though, that ISS taking space or placing POS's in IAC space would be against their charter. The ISS is not an agressive corp, and that is an agressive act. Defending their POS's is one thing, attacking someone else's POS's in another system is quite different. That said ISS has raised over 100B this week on an IPO. Guess we know where its going. edit - also, attacking someones station systems seem to be a war. Which ISS needs a vote on. I own quite a few ISS shares, even about 1b in ISSO shares. I'd like to see a vote for that.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:20:00 - [33] Originally by: Steven Orzack Edited by: Steven Orzack on 13/12/2006 01:15:09 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Count TaSessine You have repeatedly declared your intentions to seize the outposts that ISS are managing. You have stated those intentions both in public and in private convos with me (n sx and Tyrrax). We are defending the interests of ISS, our pilots and the owners of the stations. You're lying again, how about posting some proof of your groundless claims ? Do you really think the community is stupid? Excuse me but you and your minions stated on quite a lot occasions on this forums that you indeed have taking ISS stations in mind and now ISS is teh ebil agressor? Dont underestimate the intellect of the community by posting blatant lies and expecting us to believe them, that is insulting. Here's some facts for you; Fact 1; Nobody with any position of authority in IAC has ever stated we're taking their outposts. Fact 2; Count repeatedly claims we have said so, hence he's a liar. Go on Count, post a chatlog of an IAC executive saying we intend to take your outposts ? Prove it. http://eve.klaki.net/
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:21:00 - [34] Originally by: N Solarz about your beloved charter that you hold so dearly: http://www.eve-iss.com/publicsite/charter.asp - ISS pilots are forbidden to enter claimed space unless ISS have signed an agreement with the claiming alliance. Alliance claimed space is defined by the most recent official political map on Eve-Online: http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg. Travelling in forbidden space is a bannable offense. apparently it doesnt apply? apparently setting up 3 POS'es in claimed space isnt entering? and im sure someone will spin this some way or the other. Well, duh. When someone sets ISS -10, camps their outpost systems, and declares open war on the forum, such courtesys as repsecting your space tend to go out the window. Actions have consequences, hasnt life taught you that?
Hehulk Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:22:00 - [35] * Hehulk continues munching popcorn. This is great guys ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:22:00 - [36] Originally by: Butter Dog Well, duh. When someone sets ISS -10, camps their outpost systems, and declares open war on the forum, such courtesys as repsecting your space tend to go out the window. Actions have consequences, hasnt life taught you that? Im sorry, but no. For ISS to war a shareholder vote must be called. Im a shareholder - no such vote exists. That is, of course, IF ISS follows the charter.
Kalissa D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:22:00 - [37] Originally by: Kaylana Syi Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 13/12/2006 01:08:14 I am sure Seleene will make a proper storyboarded post, one that I am looking forward to reading, but until then you will get this : ISS have escalated the 0.0 war between IAC and ISS into an all out Outpost taking war. Mercenary Coallition with the help of Veto. and ISS are demonstrating that ISS are unwilling to listen to IAC diplomats when we said we had no interest in taking their outposts. As of now, IAC will not tolerate escallation into POS combat and ISS has shown that once again they cannot do anything but rely on their wallets. We will do what it takes with whom it takes to ensure the survival of our outposts. This will get ugly if ISS does not back off their military agenda. IAC had the intention of getting the ISS leadership's attention with negative standings to make them realize they need to keep their member corporations in check because of the abuse of the loose structure they employ. ISS I have no respect for the actions you have taken. This isn't going to be fun for anyone. This is a new war and by no means are you going to spin this into self defense. You brought the first attack on system sovereignty and you will be dealt with harshly. I would like to point out to the rest of the corporations and alliances : if ISS is your neighbor, this is how they work out their differences. Not by using their navy, not by reforming their structure or fixing THEIR problems. It is done by buying the help of someone to make sure they don't have to change. Their problem is your problem. Fair enough... too bad it goes against everything ISS claims to stand for. Pathetic. Kaylana Syi, IAC Diplomat ISS have never fought their own battles. We placed an outpost in EC-P8R where they have an outpost and they had to hire MC to come and destroy it.
xh'duality Caldari Caldari Luftwaffe Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:23:00 - [38] I see about alot of peep's hearing stuff. Ok fine. I heard CCP is starting war against us all (came from a very good source). Come on. If we would have wanted to take the outpost wouldnt we have started it right away by putting pos's into reinforce?? We had the chance We had the fire power but that was never the plan. No mather what ya hear starting to put stuff into our leader's mouth about stuff what was never the plan is just plain childish. As we can see now ISS is just useing this opertunety of trying to get new outpost's AND we are not gonna let this happen. And yet still our plan stay's the same not even thinking about taking ISS's once. So ISS please stop the lies and if you hear crap about that should have been so well pod thoses sources cause they are aint worth the penny in me wallet. --------------------------------------------------- It take's 10 finger's for to smacktalk and ONLY ONE TO WIN [The all mighty "I WIN BOTTON"]
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:24:00 - [39] Originally by: Montaire That said ISS has raised over 100B this week on an IPO. Guess we know where its going. edit - also, attacking someones station systems seem to be a war. Which ISS needs a vote on. I own quite a few ISS shares, even about 1b in ISSO shares. I'd like to see a vote for that. War was declared by IAC, not ISS. No vote is required. And this will be funded by ISS's private funds. There are some very rich individuals in the alliance.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:25:00 - [40] Originally by: Montaire Originally by: Butter Dog Well, duh. When someone sets ISS -10, camps their outpost systems, and declares open war on the forum, such courtesys as repsecting your space tend to go out the window. Actions have consequences, hasnt life taught you that? Im sorry, but no. For ISS to war a shareholder vote must be called. Im a shareholder - no such vote exists. That is, of course, IF ISS follows the charter. Er, ISS didnt declare the war, IAC did.
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:26:00 - [41] IAC has to be given the "official wet lettuce" award ... You declare war and then come crying to the forums when your attack fails .. Pass me another box of popcorn and I'll fetch you some tissues.
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:26:00 - [42] Edited by: Montaire on 13/12/2006 01:26:47 Quote: =Butter Dog War was declared by IAC, not ISS. No vote is required. And this will be funded by ISS's private funds. There are some very rich individuals in the alliance. Im sorry but thats not the way the charter works. For ISS to war there must be a vote. ANY agressive action (ie taking stations or POS's) that are not a DIRECT threat to the ISS station sov is a war of agression, not defense. And that is somthing that MUST be voted on for ISS to stay true to the charter.
Tehyarec Erasers inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:27:00 - [43] Originally by: Butter Dog LOL Comedy Gold, keep it up IAC. Facts are as follows: * You started the war * You refuse to listen to ISS who asked for war to be avoided * You ignore Counts public post asking for freindly relations * ISS CHANGED THEIR CHARTER IN RESPONSE TO YOUR FEEDBACK * You still went to war with them * You make a big show of it on the forums * You brag more on the forums about your kills And now, in a pure comedy sketch, you claim ISS are the aggressor! Honestly, IAC. Get a grip. To think I held some amount of respect for you during the 9UY war. How wrong I was to do so. "Fact" is that you're the one making the show on these forums, being the most vocal thread spammer in these threads, and you are not even in ISS anymore. You just seem to like fueling the fire for whatever reason, with stupid comments nonetheless. We didn't engage in station-taking first (nor did I see any indication of plans to do so, for that matter), ISS did by. And of course as expected called in their precious mercs after being unable to handle things themselves and getting their asses handed to them. And then, together they start POS-spamming our outpost system. Not to mention the suspiciously fast and organized ISS+MC+VETO+whoever assault response in general, even though MC was supposed to be on another contract. Not planned? I wonder. So stop sputtering nonsense already. If someone needs to get a grip on things, it appears to be you. Smacking from the sidelines ftl. At any rate, time will tell what happens, the gloves are apparently off on both sides. And as a final note, I post this only as a personal thing, I don't represent my corp/alliance with this in any official shape or form or capacity.
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:29:00 - [44] Edited by: Butter Dog on 13/12/2006 01:29:49 Originally by: Montaire Edited by: Montaire on 13/12/2006 01:26:47 Quote: =Butter Dog War was declared by IAC, not ISS. No vote is required. And this will be funded by ISS's private funds. There are some very rich individuals in the alliance. Im sorry but thats not the way the charter works. For ISS to war there must be a vote. ANY agressive action (ie taking stations or POS's) that are not a DIRECT threat to the ISS station sov is a war of agression, not defense. And that is somthing that MUST be voted on for ISS to stay true to the charter. Are you completely retarded? What part of IAC DECLARED THE WAR don't you understand? You do know what this fight is taking place 1 JUMP away from an ISS station, and key trade route, don't you?
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:32:00 - [45] Originally by: Tehyarec Originally by: Butter Dog LOL Comedy Gold, keep it up IAC. Facts are as follows: * You started the war * You refuse to listen to ISS who asked for war to be avoided * You ignore Counts public post asking for freindly relations * ISS CHANGED THEIR CHARTER IN RESPONSE TO YOUR FEEDBACK * You still went to war with them * You make a big show of it on the forums * You brag more on the forums about your kills And now, in a pure comedy sketch, you claim ISS are the aggressor! Honestly, IAC. Get a grip. To think I held some amount of respect for you during the 9UY war. How wrong I was to do so. "Fact" is that you're the one making the show on these forums, being the most vocal thread spammer in these threads, and you are not even in ISS anymore. You just seem to like fueling the fire for whatever reason, with stupid comments nonetheless. We didn't engage in station-taking first (nor did I see any indication of plans to do so, for that matter), ISS did by. And of course as expected called in their precious mercs after being unable to handle things themselves and getting their asses handed to them. And then, together they start POS-spamming our outpost system. Not to mention the suspiciously fast and organized ISS+MC+VETO+whoever assault response in general, even though MC was supposed to be on another contract. Not planned? I wonder. So stop sputtering nonsense already. If someone needs to get a grip on things, it appears to be you. Smacking from the sidelines ftl. At any rate, time will tell what happens, the gloves are apparently off on both sides. And as a final note, I post this only as a personal thing, I don't represent my corp/alliance with this in any official shape or form or capacity. Fine, you say I'm posting rubbish. In that case, enlighten the readers. Which of my 'facts' as posted is actually not true. Go right ahead and educate people. IAC crying about being attacked in a war that they started is just about the funniest thing I have read on this forum... well, ever.
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:32:00 - [46] Edited by: Press Officer on 13/12/2006 01:32:19 IAC I would hide and ask for ISS compassion .... The "logged convo's" from 7 days ago would make this entire thread rather embarrassing for you ...... The art of war is knowing when your beat, the art of diplomacy is knowing when to keep quiet
Hand Raging Destruction	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:33:00 - [47] Originally by: Marovinchian FFS....will someone put a shock collar on butter nub....posting every 3 minutes is just rediculous. Oh, and i would just like to say the results of the big shock and awe blob thus far have been hilarious. 2 iss friendlies killed, 1 iac stilletto killed 1 MC maelstrom lost gg I think I will put this in my bio.
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:34:00 - [48] Im sorry, if you persist with personal attacks I will report you. They are against the forum rules, so calm down. That said. I never said "Declared War" - please take note. I said "make war" -- It doesnt matter if its a declared war or not.. ISS is not an agressive entity. Taking a station is an act of agression and a drastic change of direction for ISS. If ISS were taking defensive action thats one thing. What they are doing is somthing different. Quote: Are you completely retarded? What part of IAC DECLARED THE WAR don't you understand? You do know what this fight is taking place 1 JUMP away from an ISS station, and key trade route, don't you?
Horatio Nately Caldari 808 Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:36:00 - [49] Originally by: Marovinchian ...2 iss friendlies killed... nothing new there. --------------------------------------- Operations Officer, 808 Enterprises Yes Eight Oh Eight, Not Bee Oh Bee My Opinions may as well represent my corp. Boo fkin hoo.
nickky01 The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:36:00 - [50] Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 13/12/2006 01:29:49 Originally by: Montaire Edited by: Montaire on 13/12/2006 01:26:47 Quote: =Butter Dog War was declared by IAC, not ISS. No vote is required. And this will be funded by ISS's private funds. There are some very rich individuals in the alliance. Im sorry but thats not the way the charter works. For ISS to war there must be a vote. ANY agressive action (ie taking stations or POS's) that are not a DIRECT threat to the ISS station sov is a war of agression, not defense. And that is somthing that MUST be voted on for ISS to stay true to the charter. Are you completely retarded? What part of IAC DECLARED THE WAR don't you understand? You do know what this fight is taking place 1 JUMP away from an ISS station, and key trade route, don't you? IAC war dec'd ISS? i thought they just set them -10
Press Officer Leaked Memo's	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:37:00 - [51] The ISS has taken nothing ...... I call it smart to fight in F4(IAC System) rather than ZXIC or KDF .. To fight in a home system, you need POS's as a point of meeting and control expecially with "recon probes" within 60 secs.
Sgt Napalm ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:38:00 - [52] " I said "make war" -- It doesnt matter if its a declared war or not.. ISS is not an agressive entity. Taking a station is an act of agression and a drastic change of direction for ISS. If ISS were taking defensive action thats one thing. What they are doing is somthing different." Please take it up with Count. Thanks
Butter Dog The Dead Miners Society	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:38:00 - [53] Originally by: Hand Originally by: Marovinchian FFS....will someone put a shock collar on butter nub....posting every 3 minutes is just rediculous. Oh, and i would just like to say the results of the big shock and awe blob thus far have been hilarious. 2 iss friendlies killed, 1 iac stilletto killed 1 MC maelstrom lost gg I think I will put this in my bio. Hand! Have you come outside your POS shields yet? Sorry I had to retract my wardec on you, this was much more fun.
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:39:00 - [54] Originally by: Press Officer The ISS has taken nothing ...... I call it smart to fight in F4(IAC System) rather than ZXIC or KDF .. To fight in a home system, you need POS's as a point of meeting and control expecially with "recon probes" within 60 secs. This is quite a point. So ARE those POS's in Sov Mode ?
Kristoffer Amarr Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:39:00 - [55] Originally by: Butter Dog Well, duh. When someone sets ISS -10, camps their outpost systems, and declares open war on the forum, such courtesys as repsecting your space tend to go out the window. Actions have consequences, hasnt life taught you that? Er, ISS didnt declare the war, IAC did. Hmm Butter. Just like ISS didn't declare the war on the former alliances that dwelt in curse.
maGz The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:40:00 - [56] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Hand Originally by: Marovinchian FFS....will someone put a shock collar on butter nub....posting every 3 minutes is just rediculous. Oh, and i would just like to say the results of the big shock and awe blob thus far have been hilarious. 2 iss friendlies killed, 1 iac stilletto killed 1 MC maelstrom lost gg I think I will put this in my bio. Hand! Have you come outside your POS shields yet? Sorry I had to retract my wardec on you, this was much more fun. Quoting just to save this... Going to look fun when you're in ISS ____________ The Priory Killboard
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:41:00 - [57] Originally by: Sgt Napalm " I said "make war" -- It doesnt matter if its a declared war or not.. ISS is not an agressive entity. Taking a station is an act of agression and a drastic change of direction for ISS. If ISS were taking defensive action thats one thing. What they are doing is somthing different." Please take it up with Count. Thanks With all due respect, no. ISSO is a public company, its dealings should be public as well. And its QUITE in the public interest if a publicly traded company is drasticly acting outside its charter. Respectfully,
RichThugster Gallente Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:41:00 - [58] Originally by: Butter Dog Hand! Have you come outside your POS shields yet? Sorry I had to retract my wardec on you, this was much more fun. butter have you undocked in anything other than a covert ops on your alt? and im sure it was load of fun making an idiot of yourself on the forums. its fun for everyone else REVELATIONS RECRUITING NOW
Skrypt Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:42:00 - [59] I think I'll get some movie candies. ___________
Hand Raging Destruction	Posted - 2006.12.13 01:42:00 - [60] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Hand Originally by: Marovinchian FFS....will someone put a shock collar on butter nub....posting every 3 minutes is just rediculous. Oh, and i would just like to say the results of the big shock and awe blob thus far have been hilarious. 2 iss friendlies killed, 1 iac stilletto killed 1 MC maelstrom lost gg I think I will put this in my bio. Hand! Have you come outside your POS shields yet? Sorry I had to retract my wardec on you, this was much more fun. My alt has been too busy killing ISS target drones to be arsed with keeping up too much with things in Keshirou. I have to admit I'm addicted to that little vicarious tangent my eve life has taken. The only good ISS is a dead ISS.

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