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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: Dammar Irony is how IAC haven't been booted back to empire yet. People must not think much of the space you own, because if they did, you'd be long gone by now, though I think with 2 shiny outposts, the property value has risen significantly and I'm sure your time is coming.
The rest of the south won't be busy forever.
We have three, and better men than you have tried and failed.
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Horatio Nately
Caldari 808 Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.13 04:50:00 -
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Edited by: Horatio Nately on 13/12/2006 04:51:01
Originally by: Montaire Nah. ISSN isnt an army. Its more of a police force.
imo replace police force with vigilante group and you're pretty dead on. Police dont shoot first and ask questions later. --------------------------------------- Help Some Noobs Out, Support Isk Stipends. Isk Stipends Eve-O Thread |
Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 05:03:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 13/12/2006 05:04:01
Originally by: Dammar
Originally by: Tehyarec
Originally by: Dammar So...how long before IAC hires -KoS- again because you suck too much to take/defend your own space?
Ironic given that's precisely what ISS is doing, hiring others because they apparently can't handle a bit of shoosting themselves?
Irony is how IAC haven't been booted back to empire yet. People must not think much of the space you own, because if they did, you'd be long gone by now, though I think with 2 shiny outposts, the property value has risen significantly and I'm sure your time is coming.
The rest of the south won't be busy forever.
edit : LOL Tyrrax has ninja fingers
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Mi Lai
Sanguine Legion
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Posted - 2006.12.13 05:16:00 -
[124]
Lot of whining for nothing from both sides. You have your war, now go enjoy it!
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Linavin
Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 05:24:00 -
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If IAC's true intent in the ISS war we would have jumped dreds into ZXIC immediatley following the war's announcement. Any alliance with any sense uses suprise as the number one weapon in taking an outpost from a previously neutral or friendly alliance. Showing up and putting all the sovrignty POS' into reinforced is a hell of a lot easier if you don't leave you opponent time to react by filling POS' with stront and getting combat forces to the warzone. Do you honestly think that we would be so stupid as to attempt to take the ISS outposts after giving ISS two days to react to the declaration of hostilities? ---
Quote: "Seleene is Primary." "She isn't here." "She's still primary."
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Hellown
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.13 05:27:00 -
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You assume ISS dont know how to manage their stront levels eh? i can assure you that is wrong, all the POS would have stront, and enough of it to bring the POS out or re-inforced during their peak hours. ISS are very good at what they do, they have some great FC's ect. and i for one, am looking forward to the new ISS outpost in F4.
/me grabs the popcorn.
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Layla Currie
Followers Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.13 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: Hellown You assume ISS dont know how to manage their stront levels eh? i can assure you that is wrong, all the POS would have stront, and enough of it to bring the POS out or re-inforced during their peak hours. ISS are very good at what they do, they have some great FC's ect. and i for one, am looking forward to the new ISS outpost in F4.
/me grabs the popcorn.
ISS have good FC's? Lol you clearly have not fought iss lately.
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Hellown
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.13 05:46:00 -
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no, you're right, im to busy fighting on the side who knows what the hell is going on. not the side of the forum *****s. Im only just out of ISS if you look at my employment history, and the corp i came from alone had 4 or 5 very passable FC's
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GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.13 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: Hellown no, you're right, im to busy fighting on the side who knows what the hell is going on. not the side of the forum *****s. Im only just out of ISS if you look at my employment history, and the corp i came from alone had 4 or 5 very passable FC's
Does very passable mean "can count to 5"?
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Hellown
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.13 05:51:00 -
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<3 priory trolls
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GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.13 05:55:00 -
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It's late, I'm tired, and I'd assume that without any warning ISS wouldnt have much chance to manage their stront levels.
Doesnt matter if all the towers were full of stront anyway, surprise-attacking the posses, if nothing else, forces the hostiles onto the back foot and they end up responding rather than leading. That's a pretty damn big advantage that I KNOW IAC wouldnt've passed up if they had intended to go for the outposts.
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Jonathan Peterbilt
Caldari Tyrell Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.13 06:00:00 -
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Originally by: Press Officer IAC has to be given the "official wet lettuce" award ...
You declare war and then come crying to the forums when your attack fails ..
Pass me another box of popcorn and I'll fetch you some tissues.
LOL and they hope that South will rise again to save them again.... It must be that they ran out of alcohol and things must be looking different now when they are sober.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 06:18:00 -
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I think this thread has run its course... I eagerly await Seleene's War Story. Mod please lock this thread.
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Layla Currie
Followers Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.13 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jonathan Peterbilt
Originally by: Press Officer IAC has to be given the "official wet lettuce" award ...
You declare war and then come crying to the forums when your attack fails ..
Pass me another box of popcorn and I'll fetch you some tissues.
LOL and they hope that South will rise again to save them again.... It must be that they ran out of alcohol and things must be looking different now when they are sober.
The way you guys left that domi behind to die is quite symbolic of Tyrell Corp as a whole tbh.
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Wraithstorm
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2006.12.13 06:54:00 -
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I dont post on these forums often, but this is comedy. Speaking as an observer whos watched these forums a few days I can honestly say that IAC shouldnt have opened up their mouths if they werent ready to back it up. Ive read the posts where IAC talk nothing but how big their E-peen is,ISS this, and that etc. then I watch Count T. come on here and state, in front of everyone ISS intentions for a peaceful resolution.
IAC set ISS to -10...That right there my friend is the point at which all courtesy, and agreements go out the window. That tells me you are coming for my cookie, and I like cookies. You dont tell me my mother is fat, and not expect a punch in the face at the end of school. Cmon fellas, lets be real.
So, now ISS, and friends have you on the backpedal, and you come onto EVEO looking for sympathy? Am I missing something, because if I am please point it out.
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Xander Magnus
Caldari Wolf Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.12.13 06:58:00 -
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Ah yes, the world that is EVE.. It's amazing to see how people seem to be blind to reality, I just don't know where to start. Well, let me just take the opening post and take what I've read so far on all the threads about this.
So IAC attacks ISS, some members of IAC act a little vague about taking outposts or not and ISS sets them to -10. 'But no REAL IAC diplomates stated we wanted to take your outpost, those were only members and we were merely vague about it!', this should speak for itself. N sx acted like he has some diplomatic power, noone in IAC refuted that claim, yet this man says in a convo with Count: 'shooting pos is certainly not out of the question'.
So the war starts, IAC cannot deny they started it, they just claim they have good reasons. Now if you attack an industrial alliance, please don't expect them to do the fighting all by themselves and in your style. That's like expecting someone who's good with knifes to use a gun. So of course they use their wallets, did you even check who you were attacking?
Now ISS fights back and all of a sudden you merely had the 'intention of getting the ISS leadership's attention with negative standings to make them realize they need to keep their member corporations in check because of the abuse of the loose structure they employ.'? N sx and multiple people in your alliance say shooting pos is not out of the question, so why act so suprised when it happens? Some members even stated the intention of taking the ISS outposts.
'This is a new war and by no means are you going to spin this into self defense.' = We attack you, there is no excuse for attacking back. You try to outsmart the arguments against you here, but these are real arguments and not less true because you try to cut them out upfront.
Attacking ISS is nice isn't it? There are so many ways in which you can spin neutrality to your advantage and paint ISS black. Small incidents with individual members are used to reflect the entire alliance. But the community isn't stupid, we see this for what it is. ISS should make a point and show that attacking them doesn't go without consequence like many expect, or else they will be a juicy target forever. When you attack a neutral entity you're no longer neutral to them and all bets are off.
ISS made my first steps into 0.0 easier, which is exactly what they stand for. TheyŚre not perfect, but they try hard to achieve their mutual goals and have already done amazing things. IAC, you just burned your fingers on something too big for you and now you try to blame it all on ISS.
One more thing, non-related to IAC: pirates are people that attack miners in belts and haulers in the pipes, blowing up their hard earned isk. Now it strikes me as odd that these pirates point at ISS and say: 'o look, they are not neutral!'. I wonder what is worse...
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Smokemon
Amarr No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 07:13:00 -
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Edited by: Smokemon on 13/12/2006 07:13:30 IAC, I assure you No Quarter. your long standing allies (ex-huzzah) will assist you if MC takes an offensive in your war. Unfortunately AXE is busy, but we will be there, with our 200 pilots and many carriers :) I do hope you guys solve this problem, do de-escalate to just pew pew.
<3 always Smokemon
p.s. talk to Krystian he is new CEO if you need assistance as we are busy in Syndicate atm (<3 AE and COE best opponents ever, no smack, lots of fights, good skilled pilots).
EDIT --
Forgot to mention Momentum. will probably want to help too, would be worthwhile to contact them, they are also ex-huzzah. ---------------------------------------- -Proud member of No Quarter
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Packtu'sa
Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 07:19:00 -
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You know, wouldn't it be great if I could declare war on somebody and get exactly the type of war that I want?
War isn't like that. IAC want a war where they can pour throughout space killing our pilots and camping our shareholders' stations; they want a war where they can outnumber our fleets three-to-one and when we outnumber them five-to-one can withdraw in safety. ISS will not give IAC a war that plays into their favor, no good opponent would.
IAC engaged in this war, and now that ISS have accepted the challenge, IAC is scared and saying that we are "unwilling to listen to IAC diplomats". Okay, so you have no interest in taking ISS outposts, but you do have the intention of disrupting trade and prosperity in the surrounding areas.
"This isn't going to be fun for anyone." You know, funny thing, you see, I thought war wasn't always fun for everybody. You wanted to dance with the Interstellar Starbase Syndicate? Fine. Let's dance.
(Note that the above is not a statement on behalf of my corporation or my alliance, and is purely personal.)
Packtu'sa Founder/CEO Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp [NCIC] |
DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 07:20:00 -
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Originally by: Smokemon Edited by: Smokemon on 13/12/2006 07:13:30 IAC, I assure you No Quarter. your long standing allies (ex-huzzah) will assist you if MC takes an offensive in your war. Unfortunately AXE is busy, but we will be there, with our 200 pilots and many carriers :) I do hope you guys solve this problem, do de-escalate to just pew pew.
<3 always Smokemon
p.s. talk to Krystian he is new CEO if you need assistance as we are busy in Syndicate atm (<3 AE and COE best opponents ever, no smack, lots of fights, good skilled pilots).
EDIT --
Forgot to mention Momentum. will probably want to help too, would be worthwhile to contact them, they are also ex-huzzah.
<3 AXE and especially NoQ.
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 13/12/2006 07:30:38
Originally by: Packtu'sa
War isn't like that. IAC want a war where they can pour throughout space killing our pilots and camping our shareholders' stations; they want a war where they can outnumber our fleets three-to-one and when we outnumber them five-to-one can withdraw in safety. ISS will not give IAC a war that plays into their favor, no good opponent would.
3 - 1? lol.
Originally by: Packtu'sa
IAC engaged in this war, and now that ISS have accepted the challenge, IAC is scared and saying that we are "unwilling to listen to IAC diplomats". Okay, so you have no interest in taking ISS outposts, but you do have the intention of disrupting trade and prosperity in the surrounding areas.
Yes im deathly afraid of your evil stares while you sit in the POS in F4 and do nothing. Terrifying really.
Originally by: Packtu'sa
"This isn't going to be fun for anyone." You know, funny thing, you see, I thought war wasn't always fun for everybody. You wanted to dance with the Interstellar Starbase Syndicate? Fine. Let's dance.
(Note that the above is not a statement on behalf of my corporation or my alliance, and is purely personal.)
War is fun, POS war is no fun. We can spam POS with the best of them, just ask MC.
Again I will say, Only time will tell who will own which station and when.
edit becuase im a noob with quotes :P
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shanda captison
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 07:56:00 -
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Foo, do you ever sleep?!
See you in space guys, im sure it ll be fun, has been so far!
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insanebe
Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 08:11:00 -
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it makes sense for iss to engage a pos war (although it may be a gamble) because not doing so would make iss weaker (less isk) and iac stronger so iss will be bringing in mercs and who ever else to try and end, or at least neuter the threat as fast as possible knowledge is power.... guard it well |
DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: shanda captison Foo, do you ever sleep?!
See you in space guys, im sure it ll be fun, has been so far!
No
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Fubarski
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Posted - 2006.12.13 08:13:00 -
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War is a totality. When you make war, you should expect, and prepare to go against every thing the entity can throw at you.
Don't complain about ISS hiring people to fight for them. They have cash to compensate for combatants. It is not un-sportsmanlike, it is not cheating. It is war. You received in toto, the brunt of their infrastructure.
--Because you did not include this in part of your plans, while THEY included it as part of their war-making infrastructure, you planned... poorly.
If grabbing stations was never part of your intent, then you should have stated flatly so, and made damn well certain that your crew-mates understood this line of thinking. You did not, and they responded expecting the worst possible incursion.
--Because you attempted vagueness in order to keep the opponent off-guard/guessing about your motives, and intent, while THEY took that vagueness in the worst possible light... They planned for, executed, and escalated it to a war that was "apparently" not in your line of thinking... (Of course, I haven't seen any posts, or agreements regarding rules of conduct for the war...) This was also not planned for.
Again, you planned... poorly.
So take that finger you're pointing, and aim it right back at your own alliance. Whomever constructed this battleplan failed you. Completely.
Fubarski
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insanebe
Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Layla Currie Lets do a rundown
ISS uses spies to offline iac pos and lay their own. ISS hacks one of the iac member's forums and completely wipes their database.
GJ ISS you guys make yourselves to look like honorable opponents. You're display today was absolutely pathetic, you have sealed your fate when you made the moves today.
MC you have no idea what you just got yourself into, not only did you destroy any credibility as an actual merc alliance by out of the blue showing up with a new contract, but you will find that you have just opened pandora's box.
lol if this is true would be somewhat ironic and funny for iss to use spies given the huge problem they have had in the past with spies knowledge is power.... guard it well |
Press Officer
Leaked Memo's
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Posted - 2006.12.13 08:51:00 -
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Quote: Their entire business plan invites metagaming into their interests. I find it pretty convenient that forums were hacked the day MC attack us too.
Convenient is just another word for made-up-have-no-proof-let-me-blame-something-apart-from-IAC-being-to-lemons.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 08:54:00 -
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Go ISS -----
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DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 08:55:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Press Officer
Quote: Their entire business plan invites metagaming into their interests. I find it pretty convenient that forums were hacked the day MC attack us too.
Convenient is just another word for made-up-have-no-proof-let-me-blame-something-apart-from-IAC-being-to-lemons.
Hi Kas.
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 08:57:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Go ISS
Should you really be saying that sort of thing Joshua?
... unless IAC have personally offended you prior to this post.
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Joshua Foiritain
Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 09:00:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Go ISS
Should you really be saying that sort of thing Joshua?
... unless IAC have personally offended you prior to this post.
I can say whatever i want, outside the alliance map i have preferences of who wins what wars and i have no intention of hiding them. Plus mah money is on tha line. So go ISS.
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